ending. >> you don't know how we end the movie. it's very interesting how we end the movie. >> i've seen it. >> yes, you've seen it. >> watch bill at 8:00. >> we'll watch you on "the five" bill: a fox news alert. we now know two americans a dead in france. 150 total killed after that horrendous plane crash in france. investigators have recovered one of the two black boxes and the black box they recovered is the voice recorder. martha: i'm martha maccallum. we now know the germanwings flight from barcelona did not send a distress signal before descending 30,000 feet in 8 minutes. experts hope the cockpit voice recorder will give them answers

about the flight's final moments. amy, what can you tell us. >> reporter: the transportation secretary said particularly they are looking at the time between 10:30 and 10:31 as the critical minutes they are praying were record on that black box. we did have a lot of awning sight when we heard from french officials that the black box had been badly damaged and needed to be reconstituted so hopefully it will be usable. but our sense is they have received some information from that black box which is being analyzed in paris. but you can see from a still image of the black box quite battered that was released from the french. it does not look like it's in

the best shape. they are searching for the second black box the data recorder. it's been quieter in the last hour or so because there is an awful lot of cloud cover coming in that may be hampering this operation. it snowed and rained overnight and it will make it even more difficult for the recovery team. they take a 4-minute chopper ride into that crevice. they are assessing the scene and assessing it. bodies and body parts will not be brought down today. but the priority is to bring them down then they will be identifying the major parts of debris they think are bringing down here for analysis. martha: so families of the

victims are in an agonizing wait for information at this point. relatives have gathered at this hotel in barcelona where the germanwings plane originated as they cope with this devastating news. in germany mourners lighting candles outside a high school where 16 students attended. bill: 10:01 departure out of barcelona. that flight delayed 26 minutes on its departure. once it reached the cruising altitude of 36,000 feet. temperatures later crashing into the friend' alps at an elevation of 6,400 feet. that's right along the italian border.

my west is a former ntsb board member. what is the most critical question you have knowing what we know at this point? >> i would like to hear what the voice recorder has to say in the remaining 10-12 minutes of that flight assuming it was powered to end. i would like to hear what it has to say right before the descent and after the descent. bill: any communication they tried to make with the ground and any sound in the cockpit@as well. >> the sound that you hear, the voice recorders sensitive and record a wide piece. all the background sound. we can tell if the engines were

running. we can tell if there was something breaking up in the airplane. in the alaska airlines crash off the coast of california we could hear the breaking of the metal when the tail left the airplane. there is a wealth of information you can take off the recorder by the sound folks to do an amazing job. bill: do you need the data recorder to supplement that? >> the voice recorder can give you a good portion of the answer but the data recorder hasn't more information and can provide the remaining piece to indicate something mechanical or some sort after fail newer the system. bill: airbus a320.

it's an extraordinarily strong aircraft. but once you reach your crucial elevation of 38,000 feet. what changes with the pilots and the plane at that point? >> the auto pilot was none the climb. the airplane is very stable. it's in it least stressful moment. >> so that would be the time where the plane would go into its cruising mode? that's when the pilots would say, hey we are on our way. >> yes everything starts to relax. everything is calmed down. your stable altitude is the best time of the flight there is. bill: former member of the ntsb. at least 27 passengers on board.

they are still trying to notify next of kin. that's part of the reason why we don't have nationality for them. but at least two americans on board. martha: he talks about the noises he might pick up from the voice recorder. we remember the person on the ground saying he heard two long sustained noises. in the past they heard the wing rip off so this could tell us a lot. we'll stick around for that, absolutely. in the meantime back to d.c. where we are awaiting a congressional address from the afghan this was the scene yesterday. he met with president obama. they discussed the future of american troops. there was an agreement we would halt the u.s. drawdown and keep our troops there for another

year. here is president ghani on that. >> we are appreciative of the decision president obama took today. we have lost about 8 months of time last year. martha: what's the retook this withdrawal? >> we have seen republican lawmakers backing up the president. because they have been the loudest for the longest warning the white house how quickly things could go down hill in afghanistan if half of those american troops that were left were pulled out by the end of this year. it doesn't seem like to is much surprise in d.c. because this is

something the defense secretary ash carter floated as a possibility during a visit to afghanistan last month. he said the afghan president and president obama would need to speak about it in person. martha: if ash carter is having an impact, i think everybody saw the and paid attention when president ghani spoke. what will he likely say? >> reporter: he will likely say thanks. the tone of his remarks has been very gracious. he says he knows the main killers of afghan society greatly -- the main pillars of afghan benefit from american help and he has been candid about how much it helps afghan

security forces to be trained by much more experienced troops and contractors. martha. martha: we'll see if this helps to secure the work that's been done there. bill: days away from the deadline with a nuclear deal with iran. is the white house intent on making that deal, even if it's a bad one. martha: this bus went out the other side. it's an unbelievable story. bill: some gun shops say they have to close their doors because of the federal government. >> i was told our application was denied because of our

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martha: yemen rebels have arrested the defense minister. she. >> it rebels setting off tear gas firing bullets in the streets. six demonstrators have died.

the rebels seized the capital in december. with the neighboring arab countries come to their aid? >> i urge my fellow senators and fellow americans to pain attention to ayatollah khomeini's words. when someone chants yes certainly, death to america we should take him at his word and shouldn't put him in control of a nuclear bomb. bill: the u.n. says it cannot get the answers out of the iran that it needs. the head of the iaea, right he's saying iran has failed to provide information and access to these areas in iran.

and it's failed to answer the greater majority of the questions it has today. this is the u.n. now. what does that tell you? >> you can't write the u.n. off as a bunch of right-wing crazies. the japanese diplomat, well versed in arms control and nuclear issues came out and basically this report that the international atomic energy agency issues says it's impossible to verify details of iran's nuclear program without a far more intrusive and extensive inspection. there are sites we have never inspected. there are more sites we are not even asking about.

it does appear the obama administration wants this deal so badly that there is even another rink until this where the ayatollah khomeini, the supreme leader said maybe the end of march an oral agreement. so he moved it several months down the road. >> the iaea, it says iran has plead to one of 12 queries about possible military dimensions and limited information about two other places including this area called the parchin military complex. they say there is a part of that complex where they have been refused access. we are about to do a deal with a country like that. >> the parchin base is huge. it's 10 square miles.

there are deep under ground bunkers where work is being conducted. we should be very, very afraid of this. then you hear josh earnest. he was questioned what about the other things iran is doing. the iranian aggression in syria lebanon, gaza, iraq, yenl,th their worldwide support of terrorism. earnest says we are watching all that. he went on to basically say that the way to make iran more peaceful is to lift sanctions and give them hundreds of billions more dollars every year. if iran is doing everything it is already to spread a new iranian empire across the middle east what will they do when they have sanctions lifted and far more wealth?

bill: there is no deal yet but this is the information we are getting. the head of the iaea met with john kerry tuesday and was set to meet with susan rice as well. here is the supreme leader saturday. >> death to america. yes, because america is the main cause of these pressures. they themselves insist on focusing on the economy of our dear nation. ways their aim? to place the people against the system. bill: what would ronald reagan do if he heard that comment only four days ago. >> he wouldn't give away a nuke deal to iran. look how we have allowed the iranians to move the goal post. the original intent was zero toll rangs for iranian nukes. now we are down to the point where it's we want a one-year guarantee after breakout period

before they can explode anew. and he made an important point. the iranians are so confident in obama's desperation that they may make demands that kerry and obama reamize they could never sell to the people in the world. in the meantime, look what they have already gone the. they have gone the years to continue their nuclear activities and meanwhile while the president is attacking benjamin netanyahu as somehow our enemy cozying up to iran, dreaming of being friends we have other things going on in the world. our president who always has time for al sharpton could not make time for the new head of nato the new general secretary of nato to meet him this week.

every other president has always met the nato general secretary when he comes to town. netanyahu reads that as obama saying you had two trips to the ukraine, goer to a third. bill: ralph peters out of washington. martha: getting pictures and images of the french president francois hollande and german chancellor angela merkel. so many questions remain about what happened here as the investigators take on the grim task of searching for clues in the debris field. bill: police searching for a 29-year-old woman believed to have been abducted and held for

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martha: the fbi is joining the search for a missing northern california woman. police say 29-year-old denise huskins was abducted from her boyfriend's home early monday but the crime wasn't reported until 11 hours later. >> he was the one that brought this matter to our attention. we are currently working with them to piece the puzzle together. as of this moment miss huskins' whereabouts are unknown and we are treating this matter as a kidnap for ransom.

martha: mark fuhrman is a former homicide detective and a fox news contributor. >> there doesn't seem to be anything that feels right about this. you have somebody who was supposedly with the victim when she was abducted. we don't know if there are suspect descriptions. we don't know if there was one man, two men, three men. the only evidence of a ransom comes directly for the boyfriend that waited 11 hours. if he was tied up, taped up or in another way incapacitated and he escaped or freed himself then reported it that's one thing but certainly police could come out with that. it seems odd all the way around. to me i wouldn't rule the boyfriend out.

martha: if your girlfriend is take away in her car and it's later found abandoned. as far as we know he wasn't tied up by these intruders in anyway. it seems odd if a loved one is stolen before your eyes the first thing you will do is cry for help and call the police and try top catch the car before it gets too far. >> there are two individuals. a male and female. the victim was a strong, athletic and aggressive. she wouldn't be allowed to be just pushed around because somebody command her to and you have a boyfriend. are we dealing with somebody with guns? is there evidence of a struggle in the house? is there blood saliva, fingerprints? how did this go down? i don't think these are

particulars the police couldn't release that would help in the formation of suspicion for other people to see the suspects, especially do we know the race, size of the suspects and did they have their own car? martha: we are looking at some of the scenes of the search going on. what do you glean from the way police are handle can this search mark? >> i don't particularly like what i'm hearing but there could be a reason. there could be a tactic that they are using and that would be fine. we don't know all the particulars of this of course. but i also see that they have search teams searching the water with sonar. that would indicate they have the suspicion that there might be a body instead of a live victim. see that would tend to make me think this isn't a straight

kidnapping ransom. the only lone we have a ransom demand is because the boyfriend said there was a ransom demand. that's odd that you would have a verbal one. then there is no contact the suspect. the other odd part is, you take a victim driving a 15-year-old car, she is not living in a home that she owns. how much ransom could you demands? martha: unless there was something going on with this boyfriend and her and somebody they owed money to. mark, we'll see where this goes. good to see you. bill: a sinkhole like you have never seen before. this bus plunge into a crater. the people inside manage to get out as it rolls down the river. martha: the president of

afghanistan about to address a joint meetings of congress. you remember he was krirt sized for pulling out too soon from iraq. a different story in afghanistan. with isis knocking on the front door will that be enough? >> the last years were an exception when we needed help and we are grateful help was provided but we are pleased the security transition has been met according to the time line that set.

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bill: moments ago the leaders of germany and france arrived at the scene of yesterday's deadly plane crash. investigators trying to find -- this is the cockpit voice recorder but the flight data recorder has not been found based on, we know at the moment.

the german plane made a sudden 8-minute dive into the mountains. it did not appear to alter its flight path. so far officials don't believe a terror attack called that. martha: the afghan president ashraf ghani set top address a joint session of congress. that comes after president obama announced america will keep its currents level of troops in afghanistan for another year. >> you have stood shoulder to shoulder with us and i would like to say thank you. would i also like to thank the american taxpayer for his and her hard earned dollars that

have enabled us. martha: you don't hear that every day. rob portman will be at the speech. welcome. what did you think about that? i don't think i ever heard that from a foreign leader and we certainly never heard it from karzai. >> it's refreshing. i'll be at the speech today with one of my constituents from ohio. it's nice to hear the new presidentr presidentpresident -- it's nice to harper the new president of afghanistan acknowledge those efforts. the taxpayer dollars that have gone into that effort and we can't allow what our brave men and women did over there to facebook squandered. i'm glad the president changed his mind and took away the arbitrary timetable for withdrawal. martha: it's been discussed a

lot and we know president ghani asked for it. what do you have think his commitment is to the future there? >> i hope this commitment is to listen to the commanders on the ground. i think by him saying until the end of this year we won't make a change i think we should be responsive to what's hatching on the ground. right now the after the began security forces need our help. we are trainers. we are providing intelligence. we have special force there. what we should have had in iraq to avoid the incredible problems that we have had there with isis having a third of the country under their control and the black flag of isis flying over cities like fallujah where our marines shed so much blood. i hope the president learned from that. martha: you look at fallujah and mosul and you look at the

tremendous strides that were made there but the president still bleflts war there in the first place was the reason isis was able to proliferate in that area. he doesn't blame it pulling out of iraq, he blames president bush and the going in the first place. >> that's not fanning fuel. what happened with the surge was we began to get people in the country of iraq on our side and made tremendous gains. by pulling out precip usually and not having that infrastructure of trainers and intelligence some and some special forces capability, we have seen the unfortunate results. what we have seen is thousands of people killed. we have seen the persecution and slaying of christians and other religious minorities. we have seen rawb gain influence in iraq in places they wouldn't have been able to otherwise. when that void was created iran moved in.

we created a lot of problems we didn't have to and we are hoping not to tree pete those mistakes in afghanistan. martha: from the beginning his m.o. has been to extricate us and he says you are presence on the ground has exacerbated the problem and we needed to leave. why do you think he's turning on this issue? >> i hope it's because he learned lessons from iraq. but i think ghani the new president, has given confidence they will be able to use the resources we are giving in a more effective way. they are going after fraud. and then finally i think it's the conditions on the ground so obviously rewire us to have a presence there. nop not in a foreign operating mode. being sure the afghan security forces are ready to take on the

role in providing the intelligence that's needed and special operations capability. in any case i hope the president doesn't change his mind again and set an arbitrary deadline. we should be saying we'll be there with the afghan people, with the new president to be sure we can preserve of the gains our troops have made. our brave men and women do an incredible job. we have got to be sure we respect that. martha: a lot of blood a lot of treasure lost. 61 billion in our commit to the afghanistan. it will be interesting to watch this president speak to congress today. bill: a sinkhole in brazil. a bus squall so thed by a crater

in the road that led to a river underneath it. the passengers escaped moments before. they got off the bus. martha: that's them stand on the side? bill: apparently. martha: i can't believe it made a hole to fit the bus. martha: everybody got out fine. so a rush to action as a brave policeman's body camera captures the rescue of a small child after his home went up in flames. bill: owners of small businesses like gun stores say they are facing financial ruin because of restrictions put into place by the obama administration. >> they are weaponizing

government to meet their ideological goals.

officer in georgia rushed into a burning home to save a little boy. he didn't hesitate when a woman said her grandson was inside. it was caught on the officer's body camera. watch. he entered the burning home. he was choking back smoke and heat to reach the 3-year-old boy. >> the basic instinct. i have three sons of my own. as soon as she said it was her little grandchild. i'm not going to wait for the fire department on that one. martha: watch him go through that smoke filled house. both thankfully escaped without injury.

>> they don't like guns and this is a clever way to get around the second amendment at the fdic and other bank regulators tell banks you can't do business with gun dealers or ammunition manufacturers. or payday lenders. they are putting you out of business because the administration says we don't like you. >> reporter: that's republican congressman sean duffy that heard from the owner of some of the stores he just mentioned. operation choke point was put into place about a year ago. he says the government is making it hard to do business with banks if they run companies the white house doesn't like. >> i was told our application was denied because of what we

sell. reporter: alan colmes and brad blakeman former assistant to president george w. bush. well behaved here i see here. >> we are in person this time and we got the memo. what's going on? >> i think it's a mistake. this cities overregulation. to go after an entire industry because the justice department decides which industries should not be funded. this is not just gun stores. some of these groups are like adult film stars having trouble getting bank accounts. one company that makes hookahs that people use to smoke illegal substances. by the way the washington times said they sent a letter by the fdic to bank lenders and this is

almost not happening any more because they stepped back from doing this. congressman duffy is right. and alan colmes is right. you made some great points. the fact that the president can't get through legislation he does through regulation and muscling the fdi drorks put the hammer down on businesses denies the owners their due process rights of fighting against a brewer krat i. d against a bureaucracy. it's not the individual business that's being targeted, it's the industry. it's wrong for the president to do it. the president needs to put down his pen and start doing things the way the government intended him to. who runs the justice department? the president of the united states. bill: no one is denying this. it happened.

some people who needed money to run their business and maintain their livelihood were denied that. duffy calls it the greatest government overreach that no one is talking about perhaps until now. >> there are lenders who take advantage and if they are responsible they should be prosecuted with the fullest extent of the law. >> these are small businesses trying to make a living. how about the payday lenders? i watch the lines in washington where they pay a fee to to cash a check because they have been denied a bank account. when you target businesses without operation of law ... >> people in poor communities need those payday lenders. bill: the program was put in place to fight back on corruption and it turns out the

program is corrupt. this cannot continue. >> the washington times said they backed off it. let's hope bringing light to it -- bill: how does this happen? how do you allow the government to prey on everyday americans and their livelihoods? >> the most dangerous president is the one monos no limits to his power. that what's we have with the president. bill: are you blaming the white house on this? >> yes because the president runs the executive branch. he should be in control every agency under his power. to have anything less is wrong. po to send. >> message that it's open season orindustries. >> how much the president knows about this we don't know. >> we'll see what he does to stop it. martha: here is some good news. tax day is right around the corn and it could be shocking for

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martha: a new report reveals shocking figures for those who get healthcare under obamacare. an overwhelming majority of them will be in for a surprise when they file their taxes. most will owe more money to uncle sam than those who will

get money back. according to the kaiser foundation only 4% of household actually got the exact right amount to help them pay for obamacare when they got their subsidies. stuart varney is here now with more. so for all the people who signed up for obamacare. they only got 4% right. >> that was correctly computed. >> reporter: the shocks keep coming with obamacare. it am nasty shock especially if you rely on the tax refund you think you are going get. a study of all people who received a subsidy for obamacare last year found a lot of the information supplied on the part of those people getting the subsidy was incorrect. result? almost half of the people who got a subsidy will have to pay some of that subsidy back in the

form after lower tax refund. martha: they supplied the information and it was incorrect. >> i guess you could say that and you could say the whole process is so complex is who on can understand it and get it absolutely right. the average cut in the refund is $794. that means something to people who rely on that refund. some people will get more money back. those are the people who got a smaller subsidy than they were entitled to. but the big deal is a lot of people relying on that refund will not get what they thought they were going to get back. martha: more people will owe money, close to $800. >> reporter: millions of people. this is millions of people. martha: we talk about $174 billion, the last type we talked about it in government waste.

money that gets wasted by the government. but when someone owes them money they are pretty efficient. >> reporter: i call it the chaos of confusion of obamacare. it's not precise. you really don't know where you snanld relation paying for the kind of care you want and the policy that's available. it's just not clear. so you have this enormous error rate. only 4% of people who apply for a subsidy got it absolutely right. that is an "f." "f" for failure. bill: see you at 11:00 a.m. eastern. the war on terror enters a critical stage. the president of afghanistan. the new one addressing congress in one hour. in one minute bill o'reilly is here with his taket on that. i'd steer clear. straight talk.

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to his nation. after fan president ashraf ghani will address a joint meeting of congress. will happen a little less than an hour from now. the president of this country agrees he will delay the withdrawal of u.s. troops from afghanistan. brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha mack. bill: i'm bill hemmer, good morning. president ghani's speech comes one day after a long meeting at the white house. you publicly thanked americans for their service and stated he was grateful for your tax dollars to help his country. this while president obama makes it clear he is slowing down a troop pullout for one simple reason. >> we're doing everything we can to help afghan security forces succeed so we don't have to go back. so we don't have to respond in an emergency because counter terrorists, because terrorist activities are being launched out of afghanistan. martha: interesting argument

right? bill o'reilly joins me now. good to have you here. >> is it really? is it really good to me? martha: usually i see you in the evening on wednesdays. we get see each other twice. you're on "fox & friends." you're unlucky guy. >> "outnumbered" you mean. martha: on "outnumbered." >> right. martha: so, we just listened to the president talking about why he is going to extend troops in afghanistan, 9800 troops in afghanistan. he says the reason is he doesn't want to leave potentially situation down the road for the next president or emergency situation or create a vacuum in that area. it reminded me of what president bush said specifically in 2007 about why he didn't want to leave iraq. let's listen to that and get bill's reaction. >> it means surrendering the future of iraq to al qaeda. it would mean we would be risking mass killings on horrific scale. it would mean we allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in iraq to replace the one they lost in afghanistan. >> is president obama suggesting

that he learned that lesson? >> i don't know if he has learned the lesson but the removal of troops in iraq is his biggest foreign policy blunder in his administration now that we know isis filled the vacuum and all the chaos ensued. he can't make the same mistake twice. this is simple call. leave 89hundred u.s. troops. -- 9800 troops there. these countries are not stable. iraq was better off than afghanistan. and that provides the president with a little bit of cover. he can say it was stable when i pulled them out. it is true, it was. once you leave an american presence anything could happen with these terrorists because they're not going to stop. that is what americans get frustrated by. we beat them and we can leave. but they're always going to come back these people. that is dilemma that i don't think is solvable. martha: i think a lot of americans are frustrated with the investment, $61 billion we've put into afghanistan. and so you can understand in some ways why a lot of americans

would say, enough. >> i do understand that. but, if you say enough, then you have to see the country -- cede the country back to the taliban and they will do the same stuff. they're going to oppress their people. they're going to allow al qaeda, isis, whoever it is to make bases there. you know and that is what happened at 9/11. so you just going to repeat it. martha: we have bigger enemies out there too. you have iran, you've got russia rattling its say per. jens stoltenberg the new secretary-general of nato is coming to washington and wants to meet with the president. as colonel pet peters says a few moments ago, when the nato chief comes to washington, the president doesn't want to meet with him. >> we're trying to find out why. i don't want to report or say anything until i know why the president declined the meeting. it does seem strange. let's find out something

tonight. martha: at the same time you've got vladmir putin pushing the envelope again. flying fighter jets over the baltic sea. nato has to scramble to deal with that situation. now shaking the finger at cophenhagen denmark. don't you move your ships in there, we'll come after you as well. >> putin will do what he wants. he is bored. he will cause as much trouble as he can. he knows nothing will happen to him. this happens with a weak president and foreign policy let as be honest. president obama is weak president on foreign policy. putin will push him around. iran will take advantage as much it cans. that is the way it goes. history says it, history dictates if you're weak overseas, villains take advantage of. >> i went to see "killing jesus," it was extraordinary. it will air sunday night march 29th on palm sunday. here are scenes from it. i couldn't help be struck by some of images of stonings and

crucifix, and think about what is going on with isis all over the middle east. it is truly, it shows you brutality that can exist in the human heart. we're seeing it again. >> "killing jesus" is a movie that is history. history as i said tends to repeat itself. the brutality in play at the time of jesus is still in play in the middle east. it is the way it is. i'm glad you and hemmer got to see it. did you explain it to hemmer? after the movie did you explain what it is? don't know what his frame of reference is there? bill: i knew the ending. >> tell everybody, that this i think is finest tv movie along with loan some doff, the duval movie. martha: i heard you say that. >> that i have ever seen. it was shot in morocco. the performances are stunning. this is as good as anything you will see in theaters on the "national geographic" channel. you don't have to be a religious person to watch it. it is about why jesus was really executed. it didn't have anything to do with religion.

it was secular money power order stability. that is why he was killed. the guy who plays jesus is a muslim. and they came to me, is that a problem for you? i said no. they said why? because jesus would hire him. he is the best guy. martha: what would jesus do? >> no, he can't play me because he is muslim? come on. martha: he is very good and very nice guy. the got a chance to meet him the other night. thanks for that. that was wonderful. look forward to it sunday night. here comes a tease here we go. "killing jesus." the book is now a movie. it premiers sunday night 8:00 eastern later today guess who will be one lucky guy on "outnumbered"? >> that's me. >> bill, bill all day long. you see me on bill's show tonight. that is the way we do things. >> people really want to see you. they don't want to see anymore of me. martha: it is become apparent they do. >> i don't know what the "outnumbered" show is. there is a lost woman.

he looks frightened. i'm frightened. >> good luck. if anyone can get a word in edgewise it is you, bill. bill: four on one on that couch by the way. get a box out o'reilly. good luck we're watching. seven minutes past the hour. fox news alert out of europe. we know two americans are dead. leaders of germany, france and spain now arriving on the scene of that plane crash in the french alps. investigators work to retrieve data from the flies voice -- flight voice recorder. it killed 150 people leaving bars kona 10:00 a.m. yesterday. about half hour later they started losing altitude at 38,000 feet and crashed into the french alps. dr. alan diehl, former ntsb investigator. he wrote a book, air safety investigators. thank you for your time. you were terrific yesterday. let's start with the simple.

what main question do you have today based on what we know? >> where is the flight data recorder. i understand they found the voice recorder. that data recorder will be the other key to solving this mystery. bill: the loss of oxygen has been suggested that perhaps that is a reason that explains why this plane went down. do you think we have enough information now to determine that? >> no. clearly there's several scenarios. that's one of them. the so-called payne stewart scenario. we seen this happen before in other airliners. we also know that there is an aeronautical directive on the airbus sensors that, they're called angle of attack sensors. in the past they have caused airbuses to start descending uncontrollably and the pilots had to disengage the computers. so there, everything is still on the table. remember, there is always four basic areas that air safety investigators look at at first. one is human error.

two is mechanical. three is weather and four is some sort of criminal act. appears that the weather area is off the table at least right now. but the other three are very much still there. we also know that criminal acts are extremely small percentage of the problem. bill: but it does happen. what do the sensors called again did you say? >> the sensors are called, angle of attack sensors. they basically tell the computers the angle that the wind is going across the wings. if it becomes too steep the plane simply stops flying and of course, with the airbus, and these other automated aircraft, the computers are flying the aircraft you realize that? pilots essentially monitor the computers. they can override the computers but it is a complicated process. and when those sensors have failed before famously back in 2008, they lost another aircraft over the, another airbus over the mediterranean when they

froze up. but this is a this has been a recurrent problem apparently because the european authorities have directed all airbus pilots to become aware of this and to know what the troubleshooting procedures are to overcome it. i'm not saying that is what happened here but that is certainly on the table along -- bill: understood. one more specific question on that. can a pilot override the computer? you mentioned it is complicated is it impossible? >> no. but the problem you have to go through multiple steps. here's the problem with these computerized aircraft. it is not transparent. not like your laptop. sometimes you have to go, why is it doing that? then you have to diagnose, how the computer is lying to you if you will. and, what is lying to the computer in the case of the aircraft. these sensors feed that computer a lot of critical data. and they're, we say computers are dumb and dutiful. it's a tricky process. not just reboot the computer.

bill: at this point they had eight minutes to do that. another quick question, i've got to go. the flight bath did not change. what does that tell you? >> first of all very unusual. when you're in a mount news area not -- mountain news area you're not trying to avoid the mountains, you're incapacitated or control lockup. of course you can't eliminate the possibility of a criminal act. but, you don't normally see that in an airliner crash. i saw it in military crashes where the plane literally disintegrates because it hit at 500 miles an hour. but in an airliner accident you don't normally see that it makes it much more difficult to find out root causes. they will be looking for sensors like those angle of attack sensors. bill: thank you sir. terrific guest. dr. alan deal out of albuquerque in new mexico. martha. martha: devry lens is spreading across yemen, forcing the president out of his palace.

[shouting] now as you know the united states has yanked our people out of there. what does this say about our nation's commitment to a key battlefield in the war on terror? bill: also the fingers of google stretching all the way inside of the white house. once a week we're told on average. why is that? google it. >> speaking of the white house ted cruz making his run official. is the one to unite a fractured party? we're going to ask another republican and potential contender, former new york governor george pataki what he thinks about all that coming up. >> when i got elected to the senate from texas we saw a coalition come together. we reassembled the reagan coalition. we brought together conservatives and libertarians and evangelicals and women and young people hispanics and reagan democrats.

bill: severe weather sweeping through the midwest. keep a close eye on this storm here. large hail pummeling missouri. listen. that is the hail pounding the ground and cars, hail as big as golf balls raining down in the ozarks in the southwestern part of the state. forecast from fox extreme weather center, calling for more severe weather from texas clear up through the midwest. watch that today. martha: wild weather. all right this fox news alert

for you now. warplanes firing missiles in south yemen near the president's office according to reports as that country descends further into chaos. the president left his compound after shiite rebels offer ad cash bounty for him. the state department insists that the united states is committed to yemen even though we pulled our people out. >> we had to take steps as you know to pull back our personnel, pull out our u.s. government personnel. but it doesn't mean that we have changed our commitment. our hope is to return to yemen, have a diplomatic presence in yemen, when the circumstances allow for that. martha: that would be nice. mike baker former cia covert operations officer and president of diligence and intelligence security firm. mike what does that mean? >> she might as well gotten in front of the camera, i like puppies. i like world peace. we're committed to yemen. no kidding. of course we're committed to yemen but we're not doing anything about it. yemen, we've been talking about it for a while.

people have been saying from the state department we're worried about it because it may descend into civil war. it is already there. it is already on equal footing with libya in that you've got x-or shadow governments battles it out. militia and tribal elements and more importantly you have jihadist elements rushing into this chaos. chaos we see in yemen libya, islamic state syria iraq, problems in lebanon, it's a cascading series of events essentially created by a vacuum of leadership at the top of the food chain. meaning here in the u.s. and i would argue that, our inconsistency in our policy, in our big vision for the middle east, over the past few years has created what we've got now, which is a big mess. martha: a big mess. here is josh ernest when he was asked about the lack of intelligence on the ground now in yet another country in yemen. >> it is true that that

coordination would be more effective if there were u.s. personnel in the country. doesn't mean that coordination has been eliminated but it would be more effective if u.s. personnel were allowed to remain in that country. >> i'm sorry. the got to be terrible to be josh earnest. it has got to be. you have to make statements like that. gee, if it would be better for us if we didn't have chaos and we had people on the ground to direct our intelligence operations against our campaign against al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. of course it would be. we've essentially allowed this thing to turn itself on its head. iran is the big winner here. iran backing houthi rebels, shiite rebels iran gaining increasing leverage and obviously in syria, obviously in iraq where they're running the show basically. into lebanon. the and no wonder there are still in negotiations with secretary kerry and the white house because the negotiating from a very strong

position. they have never had this level of influence in modern times in the region, in the middle east. so they're enjoying this massive renaissance because of the chaos, because of our again this vacuum of u.s. leadership. martha: yeah. there is a report in "politico" today basically says, well we have to go through with the negotiations with iran, if we don't they might start attacking our 3,000 troops on the ground, helping trainings special-ops in iran. we can't overthrow assad because that might tick them off too. so that is part of our negotiation policy. >> this logoesn't make any sense. the idea that somehow we have to, we have to work with the iranians and placate them and fawn over them in order that you know they allow for peace in the region. who do they think attacking our personnel in iraq over the years? of course iranians have been meddling in iraq. >> been in iraq already. >> it's a playground. martha: -- america a chance

throughout the entire process. >> take them at their word. when they say this is not just spin from khamenei, from the leader of iran. he is still pulling the strings. we have to be very careful about this but we don't seem to understand the dynamic of leadership in iran. either that or we just don't care meaning the administration doesn't care. martha: mike, thank you very much. always good to have you here. >> sure, thank you. bill: we're awaiting the president, remarks about obama care on the five-year anniversary of the law but republican leaders fighting to repeal it. republican senator john thune on the pros and cons. he is live next. martha? martha: an incredible rescue of a man stuck chest deep in mud. it is like the old sinking sand scenario. how he ended up like this and what happened. ♪ ♪ grind virtually any kind of food

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bill: 24 past. fox news alert. awaiting remarks from the president at the white house. marking five years of obamacare today. the president expected to highlight how the law was improving the quality of health care and lowering costs. but congressional republicans argue the numbers tell a different story. what about those numbers? senator john thune out of south dakota senate republican conference chair. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: many say there are pros and cons. many have more insurance and those with preexisting conditions have insurance as well. what is wrong with that? >> well, it doesn't fit reality for most americans. the president women emphasize what he thinks are the pros bill, but the experience most americans have had is higher premiums higher deductibles. a loss of the plan they wanted to keep, fewer doctors and fewer jobs. it has had impact on the economy. this health care plan that the

president put forward five years later, that's the result. that's the story today. and for most americans that's their experience which is why this is not going to be a happy anniversary for them. bill: are you suggesting the administration is lying about the numbers we have so far? >> i think the administration is trying to make the numbers fit the narrative that they want to get out there. and sure, there are some people who have gotten help and are now getting subsidies but it's a small number compared to the number of americans who have had bad experiences with obamacare. as i said, for most people what this has meant many of them lost the coverage they liked. those that didn't, they have to pay higher premiums, higher deductibles higher co-pays. it had profound impact on the economy in an adverse way. so if you look at the overall picture and get away from the narrow view that the president's trying to take of this, it has not been a good thing for the american people and that's why we as republicans in congress are anxious to have an opportunity to repeal and

replace it with something that is better, that provides more affordable and accessible care. bill: sorry senator, how do you make it better? >> the thing you have to do is get away from a government-run, heavy-handed mandated benefit out of washington, d.c. and move toward more freedom more choice, greater competition. and there are lots of ways which you can do that the way that the president chose to go with obamacare was more government involvement and government calling the shots. we believe the american people consumers patients, doctors, they're the ones who ought to be calling the shots when it comes to people's health care and the government shouldn't get in the way in the relationship between patients and doctors. bill: senator, thank you for your time. john thune, we're on standby from the comments from the president. good to get your reaction for us. >> thank you, bill. bill: senator, we'll talk again. 27 past. here's martha. martha: ted cruz jump-started the 2016 race for the white house this week but can the junior senator from texas

win support from his own party? >> he is doing fine. what he said about fund-raising i don't doubt for a second. this is the man who really excites the most conservative element of the republican party. >> brit hume last night. so the debate over cruz's electability. we're going to talk to another potential candidate, former new york governor george pataki. bill: could a new app help decide the election in 2016? why experts say this is the next big thing. ♪

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martha: so the inspector general from the department of homeland security slamming a top official and senior senator. he says a secretary improperly fast-tracked visas for foreign investors in the las vegas casino project. the investigator said harry reid pressured him. williamwilliam la jeunesse from the

west coast newsroom. good morning william report report why people get politically contacted and why voters don't trust administration warned ahead of time scandal in the making stonewalled critics ignored which is while blowsers ignored the man to be number two man at the department of homeland security. he violated rules anter haven't on behalf of powerful democrats senator harry reid and hillary clinton's brother. visa program, foreigners who invest 500 grand can in some cases get a visa. in this case, citizen and immigration services said no. then senator reid's staff intervened, telling cis the senator wanted visas approved. his son rory was hotel's lawyer. again staff said no. this time the senator himself called mayorkas and told him to reconsider. not only did mayorkas overruled his department he ordered them to brief the senator on weekly

basis. >> these applications were denied for quote suspicious financial activity. and then harry reid, realizing that he could benefit his son financially and potentially himself politically decided to overturn those petitions by directly contacting u.s. cis and asking them to overturn those petitions. >> reporter: now the ig report did not call mayorkas a liar though in 2013 he said under oath quote i have never in my career exercised undue influence to eninfluence the outcome of a case. yesterday dhs secretary jeh johnson backed him up, calling him honest and patriotic. martha? martha: william, you're also saying this wasn't the only case where mayor york cast pulled some strings for powerful democrats according to reporting, right? >> reporter: exactly the ig report involves a film project in hollywood. he overturned decision after calls from former dnc chairman ed rendell.

mayorkas overturned officials after meeting with former dnc chairman terry mcauliffe and get emails brothers from hillary clinton's brother anthony rodham. they will hold a hearing into the accusations. martha: william, thank you. >> all of the talking heads in washington say cruz can't raise money because the big lobbiests in washington aren't with him. our campaign is based on courageous conservatives across this country men and women going to ted cruz.org contributing. that is where we're getting support. bill: that from last night on "the kelly file" with megyn. senator cruz is first in. his critics are many. even some republicans say he doesn't have a chance. fox news's brit hume says he has key supporters already. >> this is the man who really excites the most conservative element of the republican party. possibly more than any other candidate. i think he will be a able to raise a lot of money not

necessarily from the big money donors but from a lot of small contributions. he will have a foothold in the race. bill: with me, former new york governor george pataki in the studio. nice to see you. >> good to see you. bill: let me start with you. the last time you talked you were seriously considering a campaign of your own? where are you now? >> i'm even closer deciding to run. i've been to new hampshire six times since the fall. very encouraged by reaction. i was out in iowa at at ag summit. reaction there was very good. the need to change this country is enormous. we need the right leadership that can win and change the government after winning. bill: are you getting in, governor? >> problem is, as senator cruz just announced the problem the election law is so ridiculous, once you do you are limited how you can raise funds. why you have a dozen at least potential candidates out there and senator cruz is only one who announced. we need to change that law. we need to change some laws in this country. so at some point it would not surprise me if i do get in this race. bill: suggesting that you're raising money right now you

would declare you would not be able to raise as much, do i have that correct? >> that's right. we have what is called the super pac. we the people, not washington aimed at reforming washington and shrinking government. i couldn't be involved with that if i were a candidate. bill: march 25th, what is your schedule? what is your deadline? >> we don't have a deadline. we don't have a date same as other potential candidates. we have deadline to take back washington which is november 2016. i noticed senator cruz when he announced about obamacare. that is one of the reforms we need. whenever congress passes a law that applies to the american people they should make sure every single member about congress and their staff have to live by the law as well. we have to reform washington not just shrink it. bill: did cruz make a smart move by getting in first? >> i think everyone will make their personal decision. the fact that senator cruz has the field to himself for the moment is good thing for him. brit hume hit it right on the head. there is enormous sentiment

among republicans we have to take back the white house to shrink back the government dramatically. senator cruz believes that, i believe that i think most of the republican candidates believe that as well. bill: a cnn poll, you know what they found? they wanted to find out what americans are looking for in the next president. three characteristics a seasoned political leader, someone with executive background and someone willing to change barack obama's policies. >> i'm not surprised. certainly not surprised about changing barack obama's policies because overwhelming majority of this country feel that the country is headed in the wrong direction. not the people it is the government. this country is as strong as it has ever been. the government is in the way. i also think that one of the important things that is having run something been an executive not easy to run a government. not easy to deal with the politics and all the interest groups. i did that for 12 years in new york. i'm proud of that. i know if i have the opportunity and run i could do that in washington. bill: seems like you check all three boxes but you're not committing yet today. hillary clinton meanwhile

appears to be all-in. how does she do, do you believe on a day-to-day campaign? >> i think the problem that she has is the american people want one set of rules for everybody. and it seems that clintons and washington operate under a different set of rules than the rest of us. imagine, imagine if we had high government position and set up an email system in our basement and claimed it was for our convenience? we would be facing federal investigators. one set of rules for everybody including hillary. i think that is going to hurt her. bill: you have a lot of energy. >> you have a lot of energy. bill: sounds to me like a guy who is leaning. >> if you doesn't care about taking this government back you don't care about america. bill: we look forward to have you back here. >> thank you. bill: to make your announcement.we shall see. bill: governor george pataki here in studio. martha, what is next? martha: vicious wind rip ad tree out of the ground trapping a man in his car in the heart of beverly hills. we'll show you this unbelievable scene. bill: the white house granting a

hefty share of meetings to google executives about once a week perhaps. how close is too close for the oval office? ♪

bill: firefighters using the jaws of life to rescue a man when a giant pine tree crashed down on his mercedes. this was last night in beverly hills, california. the heavy winds you hit the ground. the driver was pulled out. lucky for him. he is in the hospital with a condition we do not have at the moment. martha: there are some new questions whether the white house is engaging in crony capitalism over its relationship with google. according to "the wall street journal," executives from the internet giant met with senior obama administration officials about 230 times. that is a lot of meetings. and that happened while google was being investigated by the

federal trade commission. julie roginsky former political advisor to new jersey senator frank lautenberg. tammy brace, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors. julie, that is weird, isn't it, 230 times? >> that is not weird. this is how it works in washington. it is unfortunate and not right. i'm not defending behavior. i worked on the hill a long time and politics for a long time. this frustrates regular people. none of us can get access. you spend a lot of money, throw it around to a lot of different politicians you will get access the way normal people never will. it is not right. but unfortunately business as usual in washington. martha: here is the weird thing tammy. as the federal government was wrapping up their antitrust investigation of google, simultaneously the company executives had a flurry of meetings with top officials at the white house and the ftc according to this investigation. i couldn't help of think of benjamin netanyahu oh, we can't

have him here we don't want any conflict of interest any appearance with conflict of interest with the election coming up yet this is under investigation, meeting with him at the white house? >> that is one of the big revelations of the story relationship with ftc lawsuit being withdrawn effectively dropped amidst a flury of meetings. this includes, head of google eric schmidt, overseeing get-out-the-vote effort, software on election night for barack obama. later that month that lawsuit is withdrawn. keep in mind, we've known of this relationship for a very long time. schmidt was there on, obama's very first press conference after his first election. so this relationship is not unknown but problem is, of course and i would compare it to halliburton. you know, liberals talking about favoritism from a government to a particular company. and yet at no point was there a suggestion that the government was interfering or pressuring a law enforcement agency like the ftc to back up or to take it easy.

so we know that we didn't like necessarily like the relationship favoritism with the halliburton, yet there is silence to some degree when it comes to relationship with google. martha: it is very, it is weird when you think about it, to have the head of any company, sort of standing next to the president all the time while he is doing these things. they have rivals. comcast is looking at that going, or any other of their rivals, going what is up with that? we don't get to sit in the oval office? >> this is exactly how it is done. cheney, secret energy task force meet. martha: this president -- >> no that is the point, julie. agree with you. this has gone on, will go on, i don't care who the next president is, what they problem is you, could be hillary clinton, could be any republican will continue to happen. martha: do you think there should be investigation into this? the fact that, suddenly google comes out and says, oh, we made concessions voluntarily. the ftc suddenly drops the lawsuit. that stinks to high heaven. >> i don't disagree. >> let me add too, though,

beyond this when it comes to the ftc lawsuit. the fcc changing the internet into, into a utility, benefits google and netflix the most. they take up half of the broadband in the country. so you have major supporters of barack obama reaping the benefit of this remarkable overreach by another agency of the government. and you know, we do know there is -- i want companies to have access to be able to be involved in this nation. but you're looking at favoritism, a single company, unique remarkable access. martha: president, we're about to go to him now u. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> right on cue from the president. five-year anniversary of obamacare. let's drop in. >> the aca gave you new savings and new protections if you have a preexisting condition like diabetes or cancer. if you have had heartburn or a heart attack this law means that you can no longer be charged more or denied coverage because of a preexisting condition.

ever. the end of discrimination against the sick in america. all of us are sick sometimes. if you don't have health insurance you can go online to the marketplace and choose from a array of quality, affordable private plans. every governor was given option to expand medicaid for his or her citizens. although only 28 chosen to do so so far. but after five years of the aca more than 16 million uninsured americans gained health care coverage, 16 million. just over one year the ranks of the uninsured have dropped by nearly 1/3. 1/3. if you're a woman, you can no longer be charged more for just being a woman. and you know there are a lot of women. like more than 50%. preventative care like routine checkups immunizations and

contraception come with no additional out-of-pocket costs. if you're a young person, you can now stay on your parents plan until you turn 26. if you want to turn that new idea into a business, if you're going to try different jobs, even a different career you're now with freedom to do it, because you can buy health care tied to your employer and now affordable. >> we talked to republican senator john thune. there are efforts on the hill to reverse some of that law if not outright get rid of it. perhaps easier said and done as we move well into the sixth year of the affordable care act. 12 minutes before the hour. in a moment here, have you heard and seen the hottest app in america, potential they say to lead another digital revolution? as the presidential hopefuls get on board. now what's that about, hey? martha: looks like a meerkat or a ferret. ♪

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>> two americans confirmed killed in the airbus crash in the french alps yesterday. 150 are dead. the investigation what happened is intensifying. we have fox team coverage and in depth analysis on "happening now." plus we go inside of iran and talk with "the new york times" maintain rain reporter. just when you thought the robert durst case could not get any weirder, it does. details ahead on "happening now." now back to "america's newsroom" with bill hemmer. bill: jon, thank you. in 2012 was the twitter election, 2016 is shaping up to be all about meerkat. this is the hottest new app that makes it easy to stream live video to people all over the world. all you need is iphone and twitter account. it has been out for about a month. a growing number of politicians,

believe it or not, including jeb bush and rand paul also using it as new way to communicate with potential voters. lance all november, editor-at-large with mashable.com nice to see you. you walked into our studio last week, said hemmer, this is the rage right now out of south by southwest. what is it? >> basically a free app you can download. you put it on the iphone. connects to your twitter account. lets you live stream to all your followers with basically just a tap. what you're seeing through the phone your audience is seeing. the benefit being connected to twitter, depending how many followers you have, you could have fairly decent-sized group of people watching your video and commenting on the video live. those comments are basically twitter replies. and you so you can engage with your audience in real time. you can see how many people are following. see your audience. see any individual little icons up here. bill: when you were out in the green room five minutes ago you

were streaming your appearance about to happen here. >> that's right. bill: but it runs through twitter and you have like 77,000 followers. >> yes. bill: so technically speaking 77000 people could potentially watch what you're doing? >> let's make that happen. like i said, 84 people watching, which was kind of exciting. bill: it i is young. >> it is very young. it does work directly with twitter but it is not happening inside of twitter. when you see the link in twitter, you're basically opening the app. you can also open it on the desktop basically at meerkat destination. either way you get the same experience. bill: talk about practical application. why would a candidate for the white house like this feature? >> unfiltered access to the electorate. you have people rand paul one of these politicians has all these people following him on twitter. they want to feel a direct connection to the candidates. meerkat provides that because they say i'm going to be talking to a crowd of people, be on my shoulder. right next to me.

throw in questions. i will talk to you too. they put it on and it's live. because of technology behind meerkat there is a slight delay. as much as i have seen a 30-second delay which can make things a little bit out of continuity. it still works really well. bill: if they're doing an event in today des moines, iowa, send out a signal. anybody interested can watch? >> can hit schedule and hit button. like jumping out of an airplane, you hit the button stream and you're live. bill: i'm thinking news organization was want to use this as well. is that a practical application? >> well, look, i'm a journalist. why do i love it? i'm giving a different look putting people right next to me at major exciting news events and being able to tell the story in a fresh way. bill: is this app of the moment, lance, or is it something that will significantly change your, your streaming experience? >> well meerkat is a proof of

concept. it means live broadcasts, video streaming through a social platform really works. meerkat or somebody else this is here to say stay. we'll see apps like this. we'll be doing it. the platform supports it. everybody has mobile broadband. everybody loves to consume video. this kind of technology will be here to stay. bill: i'm seeing applications for teacher conferences or lacrosse game. >> classes, you show people how to draw. something of an audience watching you. also asking you questions real time. what are you doing? bill: thank you lance. lance ulanoff. from mashable.com. we'll see where it goes. >> up. bill: all right. martha. martha: today recovery crews are still searching for anticipates out there after the deadly plane crash high in the french alps. helicopters and police combing the area. the cockpit voice recorder is being analyzed now in paris. the latest is next. help an oil company overcome minus 47 degree temps,

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>> so you will be you be "meerkatting" all the time? bill: what do you think? martha: i'm a late adopter. bill: video is where everybody is going. martha: absolutely true. jon: we. bill: we have to go to radio. mart we'll see you there. bye everybody. jon: as the search resumes for clues to the cause of a deadly plane crash in the french alps, leaders from spain france and germany gather at the crash site to honor the 150 passengers and crewmembers killed in that disaster. i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. good morning. they are focusing on accessing data from the damaged cockpit voice recorder, they're trying to figure out why the germanwings flight took an unexplained eight-minute dive. at the same time helicopters police an forensic teams are out searching for debris at the remote crash site