this video going viral with her trying to squeeze into the spot however she can. >> she was going straight ford. thanks for watching us this morning we'll see you tomorrow at 5:00 a.m. "fox and friends" starts now. hi everyone good morning today is thursday, 26th of march, 2015. i'm in for elizabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert, locked out of the cockpit. stunning new information reveals that one of the pilots of that german jetliner that crashed into the alps was locked out and even tried to break down the door. how did this happen and why? a live report straight ahead. that changes everything. then we traded him for five taliban terrorists. sergeant bowe bergdahl is charged with desertion. and something else, so does the administration still think it was all worth it for the swap? >> was it worth it? absolutely. we have a commitment to our men and women serving in our military. we're going to do everything to bring them home if we can. that's what we did in this case.

>> what about the people who died looking for him? and the terrorists we gave up for the alleged deserter are returning to terror. extreme weather turns deadly. tornados ripping across america's heartland and more. could more be on the way? we'll explain because "fox and friends" starts right now. >> it's time for "fox and friends." welcome. we're leave from studio e. nice to see you today. >> nice to see you as well. three breaking stories. this first one is stunning. it's a fox news alert. breaking this morning reports are out that the pilot flying the doomed germanwings plane apparently was locked out of the cockpit moments before it slammed into that mountain killing everybody on board. >> this could be a game changer. the question remains was this an accident or intentional?

>> the information we received on the ground, amy kellogg is live from the french alps with the latest. you talk about an investigation that is unfolding and changing, this is it. >> brian steven, anna we have such inconclusive reports last night. this information was leaked to a reporter. one pilot apparently locked out of the cockpit. what we have learned here in europe, there is no law that dictates that a person must sit in for the co-pilot or pilot if one leaves the cockpit. procedure wasn't broken there. we don't know is what happened after that co-pilot or pilot left the cockpit. and we haven't had this information, by the way, confirmed by any officials. but neither has it been denied. which i think is telling in many ways. someone from the accident safety board in france in an interview on television this morning was

extremely agitated this information from the voice data recorder had gotten out. and here we stand. germanwings not commenting today except to say that only a pilot can let another pilot or another member of crew back into the cockpit. now, the state department released the names of two of the three americans who died in that crash. yvonne and emily selky. they were on a mother daughter trip. emily was a recent graduate of drexal university. the french this morning saying this united states angle now very interesting. because the leak from the cockpit voice recorder coming from the u.s., and that could be because american victims were involved and american involvement in the investigation is greater. >> live in the alps. the "new york post" today, the pilot was locked out. that would explain why there was no may day.

>> there is still so many questions. joining us now to answer some of those we hope. is former pilot and aviation consultant. there's a report that -- among pilots. it's almost unheard of for one to leave while the other stays in. do you find that to be the case? >> not a all. there is no bathrooms, if you got to go to the head you got to leave the cockpit. it happens all the time. >> sometimes flight attendant will stand in front of the door. >> they won't leave the doorope on. they will push a cart in front of the door and stand there with the door. >> why would the pilot not been able to get back in? >> there's a puzzlement. remember in january of 2015 a delta pilot had the same thing happen to him. the door jammed and he couldn't get back in. he had been able to speak to the pilot inside the cockpit because there is an intercom between the

cabin and the cockpit. >> sure. as we just heard a moment ago there is going to be a press conference at 2:00 local time. germanwings will be answering some questions. so far they have not revealed the identity of the pilot. they have simply said they were trained at their facility and the voices apparently on the flight recorder are in german. given what we know so far, and it is limited, simply that one of the pilots was locked out and then the plane crashed. there were no other sounds. what do you think happened? >> well those other sounds are very important. if you could hear pounding on a door. >> they could. >> you should hear at least two more sounds. one, is an altitude alert. if the aircraft left its altitude inadvertly you would hear a chime sound a warng. a voice would say altitude,

altitude. if that is not on the recording then the pilot started the descent. the other one is that the pilots would not be pounding on the door to get in the cockpit you would hear a chime from the cabin to the cockpit. pilots look up to see what intercom is from the aft, forward or middle section. those two sounds, one may not be there, but the other should be there. >> there certainly was knocking. first it was lightly on the door they say. then no answer. and then the knocking on the door got louder. never an answer. eventually it sounded like the guy was trying to break the door down. >> i'd be trying to chew my way through the door if such a thing happened. i have to say this -- brian heard me say this, when 370 disappeared it shocks me. i'm repulsed that any pilot, any

intimation that the pilots committed suicide in that aircraft or any aircraft is physically repulsive to me. >> it's not out of the question. the ceo of lufthansa says he finds the crash of the plane with two experiences pilots inexplicable. if one of the pilots was having a heart attack or was unconscious and the other went outside and the plane at 31000 feet, would the automatic pilot continue to cruise? >> yes, he was at 38,000 feet. if a pilot was incapacitated for any reason it was fully automated. it was set to climb and level off and cruise. the aircraft would maintain. that's why i'm stressing. if the aircraft left altitude left altitude by itself for some malfunction you would hear an altitude warning signaling it is departed from that altitude. >> right. >> as we wrap you up, finally,

during these stanls of a investigation we don't get this much information. what can we be expecting to hear today? >> what you're going to be expecting to hear, is a further discussion of what occurred on that tape recording, the transcript of it. they are never going to release the voices itself. you're going to hear a transcript of it t. regarding the pilot the captain had 6000 hours and had been hired in may 2014. he came from the subsidinary of lufthansa condor. the co-pilot came out of training school less than 700 hours. >> okay. we'll see if experience means something. we don't have their names. thank you very much. we'll go back to you again as we get nor information. >> thank you very much. have a nice morning. >> what a crazy game changer. the pilot locked out. here is your second story. bowe bergdahl as it turns out he was charged with desertion and misbehavior before the enemy.

his attorney, got the charge sheet on tuesday. that man could face life in prison. if he is court martialed. >> he walked off base june 30th. 2009. he was held for five years. almost one year since his release we finally have the results of the investigation. he walked off -- amongst the thinged in the investigation an e-mail to his parents that says he's embarrassed to be an american which explains the anger with some of the people he served with. he was being hailed as a hero by the white house. something the white house may have misconstrued what his service was like. >> this goes against america's tradition of not negotiating with terrorist. it was labelled illegal by lawmakers who said we weren't notified of this. and also the resitivism rate when these people are let out. three of the five already

reportedly have tried to do so. was it a good deal? the state department seems to here is jen psaki. >> was it worth it? we have a commitment to our men and women serving in our military defending our national security every day that we're going to do everything to bring them home if we can. that's what we did in this case. >> are you surprised for her to say that? is that spin coming out of the state department. >> here is the hard thing -- it's great to say we never leave anybody behind. it's all about politics. the reason that the swap happened is because the president wanted to close gitmo and leave afghanistan and he would do it at any cost. in addition to those five who experts four out of five are going to return to the battlefield. keep in mind at least four of our soldiers died looking for bowe bergdahl. current david hunt was on the channel, he said 14 people died

looking for bowe bergdahl. was that worth the price? >> let the army do their investigation and let them make the decision. the thing we do know for sure. those five taliban commanders will be plotting to kill more americans. and those who die in the future should be looked at as blood on the hands of bowe bergdahl. the decision explains those five for bowe bergdahl goes beyond explanation. i just don't understand how the administration could think this would be a great thing to have a rose garden meeting. how tone deaf were they. how did they think this would fly with us. >> all right. and there's the date of the big announcement with the president and bowe's parents. we will be talking through this throughout the morning. we'll get to the headlines. a fox news alert, a deadly tornado ripped through tulsa, oklahoma. this video shot by our very own meteorologist maria molina. >> it's coming right at us.

it's coming right at us. >> one person is dead as homes are destroyed and trees torn right from the ground. but that wasn't the only tornado. more hitting other parts of the state and one spotted in arkansas. tens of thousands left without power this morning. amidst the death and dedestruction one resident finding home. a oklahoma high schooler snapping this photograph showing a broken power pole in the shape of a cross. the teenager tweeted out the photograph with the caption, god is with us. overnight saudi arabia launching a series of air strikes against the houthy rebels. at this time, u.s. war planes are not involved but the u.s. is providing logistical and intelligence support. american war planes are joining the fight to retake tikrit from isis. that means fighting alongside the iranians. the u.s. now bombing isis

positions in the city following a slow down of the offensive by iraqi troops and iranian backed militia. while the u.s. military can confirm the air support for iraqi troops, officials are careful to side step all questions of iranian involvement. >> unbelievable. we'll have it all covered. >> we will. coming up more on our top story, bowe bergdahl charged with desertion. and the man who killed osama bin laden he was part of a potential plan to rescue him. what does rob o'neill think about the charges? he joins us live. >> dramatic moments caught on camera. >> lots of smoke. >> come on in. >> a toddler inside that burning home. the desperate attempt to save his life. that story straight ahead. caught on tape. ♪ you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! well, put on a breathe right strip

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>> that's right. we were conducting kill capture missions. we were on a forward operating base. he was there. and also on an observation base just outside. >> did you know him? >> i didn't know him but i knew his unit. >> did everybody on base know, this guy left? >> the second he walked off, we were getting reports we have a deserter. we knew -- we weren't sure the reasons he walked off. he had become friendly with the afghani police. he got a different version of what happened outside the base. he was disgruntled and walked off to start a new life. the taliban was surprised. what do you mean you have an american, we want him paid a ransom and took him from there. >> then they figured out we think we know where he's at. we'll send you and some other guys to get him. >> when they first captured him they took him to pakistan. the war stopped for us and we

went to try to find him. we were unsuccessful. they did get him to pakistan. years later, january of 2012, they said they found where he was and that's when we were going to do. they're calling now oo potential snatch and grab. in that part of the world it won't be a snatch and grab. >> was it worth it? everybody knew he was a deserter. >> i don't think that mission would have been wort it. i think it should have come down to negotiation trying to get him back over the table. the negotiation went but i don't think it was done well t. wasn't a good swap. five for one isn't a good deal. >> the president says we don't leave a man behind. was it worth the deal? >> it wasn't worth the deal. we don't leave man behind. we don't want anyone regardless of the circumstances to get captured by the enemy. he did something like this, so we're not going to go to the table you give us five we give you one. they say five for one and we go for five. >> absolutely. you guys knew right off the bat that he was a deserter.

yet you went out looking for him. everybody in their mind knew he was a deserter. yet at least five soldiers killed, maybe as many as 15. >> we went out and changed our rules. we're -- we try to play it as safe as we can. is the squeeze wort the juice. in this case because it was a potential hostage rescue. we're flying out to buildings getting out in their front yards. we're risking ourselves for this guy. that's not how we do it. we risk ourselves and people got shot and killed trying to find this guy. >> are you surprised he was charged with this? >> no, but i'm happy. i'm proud of the pentagon and army. there was some political captured stuff going on. the army said no, he deserted. i'm proud of what they did. >> we're proud of you. thank you for coming in today. coming up, the bias of ted cruz not limited to the media. a professional is teaching that

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already on the attack. first it was the mainstream media now professors taking aim at ted cruz. and other republicans. professor crimhamilton, at a university writes. on his course curriculum. various less violent but less violent. ted cruz and rand paul. increased numbers in the republican primaries and house and senate. >> is this what should be discussed in college? lauren clark of campus reform joins us live. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> i'm from kansas. washburn university is in topeka. i was surprised a guy would be saying this garbage about ted cruz and others. >> right. this course is entitled american politics from 1960s to present day. well, it turns out that course is completely misleading with that title. this has nothing to do with the

history of politics. instead, this curriculum circumvents talking about conservatives and republicans by name calling them. especially pointing out ron paul and ted cruz. considering ted cruz announced his candidacy for president. he has a lot of tuque about what students will be dealing with the next few months in these upcoming elections. >> you know, you would think they would present both sides and not skew the student. even on the left. if you're a right wing professor you should not be putting down liberal causes. they go on to say the neo movies that are part of the powers. it goes on to talk about the brand new white nationalest movement. what kind of opinion is that? >> right. and i think this speaks volumes to the current state of higher education. we have a professor and he's been a full bright scholar

twice. he has headed a political science department. he makes these broad claims without any facts to support them. i mean, this is unfair to the students in his class who he presents these opinions as facts. it's just completely inappropriate in a academic setting. >> sure. i understand that the student who reported this to campus reform, feels like they're being picked on because when they walk in the class the professor is thinking he's a racist because he's a conservative. >> right. unfortunately, we hear about students like this all the time at the leadership institute's campus reform. this student here came to us anonymously for fear of retribution. what does this say to the current atmosphere on campuses that students can't talk out for disagree ing with the professor because they're afraid of being targeted with a poor grade or being attacked.

shouldn't we be supported an environment where students don't feel shame for supporting a certain candidate? >> if you don't write it this way with this slant, what grade do you get even if you know the curriculum. thank you so much. >> 28 minutes after the top of the hour. breaking details on that plane crash in the french alps. turns out one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit. why? what happened on that doomed flight. we will tell you what we know. then, kidnapped and randsome. it turns out it was a hoax. the bizarre twist in this missing persons case we'll explain to you. >> happy birthday to kenny chesney. 37 candles on his cake. ♪ perfect song on the radio ♪

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good morning. everyone we are back with a fox news alert. breaking overnight. stunning information about that plane crash in the french alps that killed 150 people. a new report says one of the pilots of the doomed german jetliner was locked out of the cockpit moments before it crashed. >> isn't that stun sng the cockpit recorder allegedly proves the unidentified pilot left the cockpit and tried to get back in. the door was locked. he at first lightly knocked on the door and pounded on it with no response from the other pilot inside the cabin. >> right now germanwings is not confirming, nor is it denying these reports. and we will continue to follow this. it's going to be a press conference later on today. another fox news alert. it was all a hoax.

denise huskins' boyfriend claiming she was kidnapped at ransom. she has been found safe. in a bizarre twist she's once again nowhere to be found. >> ainsley earhardt joins us live in the studio about what police are saying. what can you tell us? >> they're calling it a wild-goose chase. believe it or not they're still following this. it's still going on. police in northern california located denise huskins. here's her picture. hours later she went off radar once again. now authorities can't reach her or her family. she has stopped cooperating with the police and she has hired an attorney. the ordeal began with her boyfriend aaron quinn, told police she was forcibly taken from their house with a ransom demand. she waited nearly 12 hours to call the cops. >> the statement that mr. quinn provided, was such an incredible story, we initially had a hard time believing it.

and upon further investigation, we were not able to substantiate any of the things he was say. >> then on tuesday, two days ago, the san francisco chronicle was e-mailed an audio claiming to be huskins saying she was safe. she was found yesterday about 400 miles away at her mother's house. when the fbi got a jet to fly her up north she wasn't there. her disappearance sparked a massive around the clock search for days, involving 40 detectives and more than 100 other personnel. police say it was all a waste. >> mr. quinn and ms. huskins have plundered valuable resources away from our community. and has taken the focus away from the true victims of our community while instilling fear amongst our community member. >> police are investigating if quinn and huskins actually broke any laws. if so they could face state and federal charges.

it's so bizarre back to you guys on the sofa. remember her dad was on camera crying and upset begging us to help. >> apparent he wasn't in on it. >> exactly. >> what a hoax. >> meanwhile, time now for some news. heather is in for heather. good morning. >> we have some other headlines we are talking about this morning. he is one of the most popular islamic leaders for foreign isis fighters. get this, he lives here in the united states. 43-year-old is called isis' favorite cheerleader with nearly 250,000 online followers. he lives in dearborn michigan has remained relatively silent online since his release in jail in 2012 for fraud and money laundering charges. his probation ends at the end of the months. federal authorities fear he will continue. incredible moments caught on camera as a police officer in

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unable to perform her job. this comes after a worker wasfrom ups. thanks so much. a texas man you see him here. has been fighting a tough legal battle to stop paying child support for a child who isn't even his. >> i've been paying child support about 13 years. i never seen the child, never spoke to the child. don't know what the child looks like. >> the state of texas voted to allow dna proof to areverse parental rights. it works forwards not backwards. but it still means the man is on the hook for $21,000. joining us is a lawyer who says he must still pay. another lawyer says he should try and get his money back how could he get his money back? it's not necessarily getting the money back.

the statute said you're not entitled for money he's paid. they're going after arrears. that's not what the statute is protecting against. so on the basis of this is actually violating this man's constitutional rights. he has a finding from the court that's he's not the paternal father of this girl. the mother has written a letter to the court saying i don't want his money. now, the attorney general is still going after the money. then we'll have to give it to the mother. who does this benefit? it benefits the state. the state doesn't want to take care of the child. use its own financial service, public assistance for the child. passing the buck. >> the mother did include his name on the birth certificate which is where the confusion began. what do you think about this? can he get his money? >> you know, mr. carson didn't challenge this originally. he accepted he was the father for 13 years. there was a judgment against him

he owed the money. just like a judgment when a court decides you have to pay a traffic ticket. he had a debt. the state is entitled to try and collect on that debt. there may be ways he can get that money from someone else. i feel bad for him. there's a reason he thought he was the father. he must have slept with the woman. >> let's take a look at what texas law says. when does child support end in texas? support stops once parental rights end. they're still obligated for any payments before that date. can you help us make sense of that? >> you have to look at the case a little bit and the law. while this is the law right now. texas has done a lot to manipulate these laws and change the laws. in fact the title is deceiving. he's been paying for the child for 13 years without any recourse. he wasn't on trial for 13 years. he was barred from litigation in texas prior to 2011. a father had to challenge the

paternity before the child turned four. if the mother used the birth certificate, as she did here and got a finding from the court making it anered oer he couldn't challenge it at all. >> quickly, final word what if they find the real father, what happened? >> the real father would be responsible for child support payments going forward. if mr. carson can prove he was defrauded in some way by the father or mother. he could sue them and try and get paid back for what he owes. fundamentally right now he owes the money the state said he should have paid. >> thanks for your time today. >> thanks. 48 minutes after the hour. coming up on "fox and friends," it's been 14 years since 9/11 and a stunning new report says the fbi is not prepared for the next major terror threat. what needs to be done? the agent who hunted down the unibomber joins us straight ahead. then, do you know this little girl? an air force veteran rescued her

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at this one. among the destruction left behind by hurricane katrina ten years ago. hugging her rescuer and smiling with joy. >> that air force veteran has tried for ten years to find that little girl. his search is going viral with the #findkatrinagirl. the master sergeant joins us to share his story. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> tough to believe hurricane katrina ten years ago. you rescued a family of seven off of their rooftop. they had been there for a week. take us back to that day.

>> it was seven days after katrina hit. new orleans was devastated and destroyed. it was pretty depressing. and we'd been flying around. and they actually were in the middle of the road, the waters had receded enough to where they were waist high. the family was in the road. and so they lowered me down between some tree and some wires. and i asked them how they were. and they said they were fine. i said you want to get out of here, they said sure. so i took them up one by one on the hoist. i picked up the little girl. we went up the hoist. as we were going up she looking and pointing going there's my house. you know and that smile that she had was there. and so i was like, this is pretty cool. >> yeah. >> i go by down and pick up her whole family. we get back in the helicopter and her mom is scared. the helicopter is very loud, they're shaky. there's a lot going on. and so her mom is like, oh. so the little girl is rubbing her on the back going it's okay

mom. we're safe. i'm watching this. to see that, you know all the destruction and their house is destroyed and the waters and everything. in the middle of all that that little girl was smiling. and for me that brightened my day. because to see that much destruction, it's pretty overwhelming. >> absolutely. and michael we should point out, this was after you had been down there, deployed. you had been rescuing people. it was the worst conditions. absolutely imaginable. after all this despair, despair, and suddenly at the end of this flight, this little girl gives you that big smile and hug. it turns out there was a photograph who snapped that picture. it went viral. it went over the base, throughout the military community. why did you want to find that little girl ten years later? >> well, sir, actually about five years ago, i would put it out on facebook or instagram just, hey i'm looking for her. has anyone seen her? nobody responded at all.

i get 40 or 50 likes and that was it t. a young man named andrew in michigan a high school student, saw the picture, heard my story. he made it his life's mission to help me find her. so i really -- i credit him with causing this wave. i'm very grateful to everybody. the entire nation for helping me out with this. because you drop off people and you never get to find out what happened to them. >> that's right. >> so this is pretty -- i'm amazed. i'm blown away and honored and humbled by everybody's help. >> really who knows she has a career in the air force. those are formidable years. if you know the girl in the photograph or if you are her, send us an e-mail or tweet us. more information will be on our website, foxandfriends.com. thank you so much master sergeant. >> thank you for your sergeant. >> thank you. have a great day. i hope we can find her. meanwhile, coming up on the

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terrorists. he's been charged with desertion. would they do it again at the white house? >> was it worth it? absolutely. we have a commitment to our men and women serving in our military. we will do everything to bring them home if we can. that's what we did in this case. >> what about the five guys who died looking for him? judge napolitano on the case against bowe bergdahl. cincinnati bengal and his daughter stole our hearts vowing to beat cancer together against the doctor's odds. >> i'm ready for today? you ready for today? you ready to get this cancer about you? let's do it. >> this morning devon still and his daughter leah are with us. they are back and have incredible news to share. more proof that mornings are better with friends. >> you're watching "fox and friends." the number one morning cable

news store in america. >> thank you colonel hunt. first thing firsts, let's get right to the fox news alert that we told you about. locked out of the cockpit. a brand new twist in the germanwings plane crash mystery. >> this morning new reports out that one of the pilots flying the plane was shut out of the cockpit. it turns out, it was the first officer by officer. according to the airline. knocked out of the cockpit moments before slamming into the french alps and killing everybody on board. amy kellogg is live. what can you tell us this morning? >> i think that these reports are out there. and they're sensational but we are still waiting to get confirmation that this is exactly what was heard on that cockpit voice recorder. they haven't been confirmed, but they also haven't been denied at this point. here at the staging area the

recovery efforts are continuing. the skies are blue the choppers have been going up to the site of the crash to recover some of the bodies now. we also know that relatives of the victims have arrived in marseille. they'll be moving on to a nearby town. some have not wanted to fly. some are coming by bus from places like spain. it's a very dark day for them. it's important for them to be as close to their loved ones as possible, clearly to find support with each other. now, we do know that in terms of european regulations there is nothing that says if a pilot or a co-pilot leaves the cockpit someone else has to sit in. we do understand that theoretically, on an airbus if someone is locked out if a pilot or co-pilot is locked out he should be able to trigger an emergency cold code that will let him back in. that would happen unless a pilot was actually blocking the other one from entering.

we need these reports confirmed, but they raise, certainly a whole lot more troubling questions. back to you. >> the key was, they're not denied. they might not be confirmed but they would be kicked out if there was no validity to it. thanks. >> here's the headline, the pilot locked out. as it turns out the news reporting this morning apparently it was the first officer identified by a european newspaper. he was locked out. they do name the pilot. apparent his name is patrick s. they do not release the last names. he was a father of two. he had thousands of hours flying the airplane for loft haunznza and other airlines as well. did the captain deliberately crash the plane? the door was locked couldn't back in. you could hear on the voice recorder some knobbing that got louder and louder. about ten minutes later, very few sounds. and the plane crashed into the mountain. >> you know, there are two

pilots there for a reason. one of the big questions this morning was why did the first pilot leave in the first place. we had a former pilot on earlier on the program. he said it was probably a bathroom call or at least that's what he would expect. the bathroom is outside. what they'll will normally do is have a flight attendant and stand with a cart in front of the area to guard it. >> one of the casualties of 9/11 is you reinforce the cockpit door. was that cockpit door reinforced to the point where you could not kick it down? when the plane started descending from 38,000 feet to eventually crashing there was probably people banging on that thing with everything they had but unsuccessful. this afternoon we get the press conference, we'll find out more. >> sure. you know one of the questions being asked in the european papers this morning is are these locks on the doors actually saving lives? famously here in the united states, there was the case of egypt air. the flight that left jfk and the

pilot flew the plane into the water and killed everyone on board. thereabout there was one in another country. is it worth that a pilot gets blocked out? maybe he passed out or had a heart attack. is it suicide related terrorist? >> that's a huge story coming our way. we have more to share with you and natural disasters in the middle of the country. heather is with us to tell us the latest. >> maria molina is out there covering for it. we begin with a fox news alert. a deadly tornado ripped through tulsa tulsa, oklahoma. take a look at this video that maria molina shot for us. >> it's coming right at us. coming right at us. >> one person is dead homes destroyed. and trees torn right from the

ground. but that wasn't the only tornado. more hitting other parts of the state and one even spotted in arkansas. tens of thousands left without power this morning. and amidst all that death and destruction one resident finding a little bit of home. an oklahoma high schooler snapping this credible photo. it shows what is a broken power pole and it is in the shape of a cross. dangling from wires in moore, oklahoma. the teen tweeted out the caption god is with us. overnight to saudi arabia launching a series of powerful air strikes against the houthi rebels in yemen before they seize control of the entire country. this coming a day after the president fled the southern port city after rebels placed a $100,000 bounty on his head. the white house is still saying a yemen is a model for fighting extremism. >> the white house does continue to believe that a successful

counterterrorism strategy is one that will build up the capacity of the central government. to have local fighters on the ground to take the fight to extremists in their own country. >> at least nine other nations are assisting in the air strikes, including turkey, who fully supports the mission. at this time u.s. war planes are not involved, but the u.s. is providing logistical and intelligence support. the white house also defending a top department of homeland security official accused of giving special treatment to some democrats, including hillary clinton's brother. at inspector general report found that this man used his influence to get visas for overseas business deals. the obama administration says that he did not break any laws and that he has an important role as dhs. he said in a statement while i disagree with the inspector general's report i will learn from it and from this process. and finally, get ready to relive high school all over

again. >> my office. is right across that hall. any monkey business is ill advised. any questions? >> yeah. i got a question. does barry man i low know you raid his wardrobe. >> loved that movie. the breakfast club is back in theaters starting today to celebrate its 30th anniversary. if you want to see your favorite 80s brat pack. it is only playing in the big screen through tuesday. i can't believe it's been 30 years, can you? back to you guys? >> thank you very much heather. a fox news alert now. we traded him for five terrorists. now sergeant bowe bergdahl is charged with desertion. does the administration still think the trade for the big five and him was worth it? >> was it worth it? absolutely. we have a commitment to our men and women serving in our military. defending our national security every day that we're going to do

everything to bring them home if we can. that's what we did in this case. >> what does this say about the administration and what can we expect in this case going forward? fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano joins us. at the moment he faces life behind bars. can the government seek the death penalty if they can prove somebody died looking for him? >> yes, if people died in pursuit of him -- there has to be a direct relationship there. the government can seek the death penally. pretty soon they will have to say they want to -- >> do you get the sense he collaborated with the enemy. >> he has two charges against him. one is leaving his post in order to avoid a dangerous duty. and the other is embarrassing the country in front of the enemy and aiding the enemy. not treason, style aiding the enemy. doing something to help the

enemy. one question is, how do we know what he did in the presence of the enemy? he's been debriefed for months. is there a confession in this debriefing? is there somebody in the enemy who somehow is in communication with us? was there surveillance going on while he was there with them? the second charge about inappropriate behavior in the presence of the enemy, is the one that triggers the life sentence. and that's the one that's going to be difficult for the government to prove. >> are you surprised this came out? it is so humiliating for the white house. >> yes i am surprised. i thought that the president would not permit a prosecution like this. because this prosecution, if it goes to trial -- there are many steps between now and trial. if it goes to trial, the trial will probably not happen until 2017. >> the president could pardon him. >> yes. the president could also be a witness in the case. wn he is former president obama. and defense counsel for sergeant

bergdahl wants to hutput him on the wins stand to sell the jury how well he served. remember what susan rice said she said on national television he served with honor and distinction. >> he was promoted to sergeant while he was in captivity and also earned $200,000 in back pay. will he see the money? >> the penalty of both of these crimes is forfeitture of back pay. if he is acquitted, he will see the money. if there is a plea bargain it will depend on the nature of the bargain. >> they wrote a two page letter to the defense attorney. in it he describes how he try today escape 12 times. how brutal his captivity was. how he was chained to the bed and beat up, keep in total light, flashing light. he was trying to create sympathy. what do you think the strategy is here. who are they playing to? >> they're playing to the prosecutors in an effort to say

if you try the case, this is what our testimony will be like. so evaluate how our testimony would play out in front of a jury. and consider whether or not you really want the country to know you're prosecuting somebody who is going to hold themselves out as a victim of torture and brutal and inhumane behavior. the president's behavior here is such a head scratcher. catherine herrage reported there was no negotiation for the five taliban. the bad guys said you want bergdahl, we want them no negotiating. give us these five days and we'll give you bergdahl. >> the president wanted to close gitmo. >> this is toxic for president obama and for about to be former president obama. >> you're right about that. thank you very much for coming in. we'll have you back on this over and over again. 13 minutes after the hour. 14 years after the 9/11 attacks the new report says the fbi is

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a new report for the 9/11 commission claims the fbi is seriously lagging behind in the fight against the terror on the homefront here in the u.s. in other words the terrorists are gaining the upper hand. we're not moving enough. no one knows that better than this man. are you surprised by the results here of this report? >> no, i'm really not. i think the fbi will probably embrace this report. it probably actually reflects a lot of discussion with analysts and agents by the people who wrote it. and as we talked about before, the people who worry about this probably more than anyone are those people. they're out on the front lines every day. >> what stands out most, that have to be fixed right away? >> i think the idea of

integrating analysts in the counterterrorism operations is very important. i certainly agree with that assessment. i think the director feels the same way probably. the issue of linguists is always going to be an issue. because the fbi is in competition with so many other agencies. there is only a set number of leeng linguists. the part that bothers me the most about this report is the idea the bad guys the terrorists are actually improving and evolving their techniques constantly. thus, the urgency of the topics that are discussed here. and the worry that the fbi has to continue to work hard to stay ahead of the game. >> i like the fact they're announcing this. they say they're already making changes that have been recommended here. on the analysts they said we got to treat the analysts better make them part of the agency. right now we don't treat them the right way ton the inside. in the big picture, would it

disturb and surprise you that our enemies, these terrorists groups are setting up their own agencies and going to schoolen us? >> one of the biggest worries i have is that the terrorist organizations are starting to look like intelligence operations. they have their own intelligence components. they're starting to work inside the country as if they're penetrating organizations and government agencies. a good example are some of these cases they talk about in this report. let's take the subway bomber or the subway plot in new york city a few years ago. he was actually an airport shuttle bus driver at the denver international airport. he's an insidder. obviously hassan at ft. hood. he's in the army, he's an insider. this is how terrorist organizations are starting to look --

>> not enough money too much budget cuts, do you buy that? >> i can guarantee you and i can guarantee the american public, fbi agents and employees are going to do what they need to do. the bigger problem is we have basically order and stability desint grating across the world. they take more territory. >> i like the tone that james kolmy said. he has the ability to motivate these people to make changes. thank you. the cincinnati bengal and his daughter stole our hearts were fighting cancer. devon still and his daughter next.

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the story of cincinnati bengal devon still and his 4-year-old daughter leah captured hearts all across the nation and around the world via social media. >> she was diagnose would stage iv cancer in june. dollars gave her a 50/50 chance of survival. but neitherer leah or her dad gave up. >> i'm ready for today, you ready for today? you ready to get this cancer about you? let's do it. >> oh, my gosh. >> together they did. deafen and leah join us to share great news. fantastic to have you on "fox and friends." >> good morning. >> good morning. >> thank you for blowing the kiss there, leah. i guess yesterday was the best day of your life. why is that? share the news? >> i beat up cancer. >> yes. >> way to go. >> uh-huh. >> devon, you said the was the

best day of your life. you didn't know you could feel this great. and what respect and how tough has it been going through this process with your daughter? >> it's been a tough process. we've been taking it day by day. it's been 292 days since my daughter was diagnosed. to finally hear doctors say my daughter's cancer was in remission was better than i ever felt. >> the brotherhood of the cincinnati bengals has been amazing. you're stay ing with the team, you'll head back to cincinnati. what has that help been like for you to oversee? >> it meant everything for me. just having an organization like that backing me up. and understanding my situation and being there to support me since day one it means a lot. they definitely helped me make it through last year and make it to this point where i can say my

daughter is cancer free. i owe that organization lat. >> surely. leah how do you feel today? >> good. >> how has it been going to so many doctors over the last year? >> huh. >> has it been scary or fun? >> it was scary but it was fun. >> that's a good way to put it. >> right. >> now that you've got good news, leah, how are you going to celebrate? >> hmmm. a big party. >> yeah. excellent. not only as anna mentioned, devon not only did your team rally around you, the city of cincinnati rallied around you. nfl rallied around you. i understand a million dollars has gone to the cincinnati children's hospital. this has become even bigger than you and your daughter. how does that feel? >> it feels good. that's what we was hoping for. when i decided to go public with

my daughter's story, what i wanted to do was try to raise awareness for pediatric cancer. the way people have stepped up to help fight the cause against cancer has been amazing. >> what has leah taught you about toughness? >> it's not on the football field or the weight room. i saw my daughter fight for nine months with a smile on her face. it showed me a lot about life and gave me a different perspective. >> we showed at the beginning of this a little video when you were traveling for one of leah's very first treatments. and we have -- what caught our eye yesterday was the instagram picture you put out after you released to the world she was in remission. you also posted the feeling that you didn't know you could have this feeling because you've never had this feeling ever in your life before. >> yeah we posted up a picture. i just wanted leah to give a fist bump to everybody who supported her and sent her a

letter that motivated her to keep on fighting throughout her battle. everybody who sent a toy to help my daughter make it through her long days at the hospital. and everybody who said a prayer to god for healing my daughter. we definitely appreciate the support. that's the reason we were able to make it through. >> i understand when you go with these things there are other kids struggling there. what's your message to the kids hoping for this day? >> keep fighting. it's a struggle. there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. as long as you have faith that you're strong enough to make it through and you have the right doctors surrounding you to give you the right treatment and family support. you'll definitely make a through. >> can we have a fist bump for the camera? >> we're give you one from new york city. >> very nice. congratulations. >> i hope you have lots of cake and ice cream leah. >> thanks leah. >> thank you. adorable. what a story.

>> she still has to go through a little bit of treatment to get her immune system back up and make sure cancer doesn't return. we're giving her a fist bump on that too. >> we sure are. still ahead this is now accident, a driver turning a stream into demolition derby. the road rage exposed coming up. finally some good news about the va mess. a top official at the budget busting hospital is gone.

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here to answer these questions we turn to licensed pilot doug luzader live from washington, d.c. this news this morning is stunning. >> it is. and, you know, this is all coming from the cockpit voice recorder that was beat up in the crash. it yielded some pretty important information. apparently, this has been confirmed by the associated press you can overhear one of the pilots banging on the cockpit door indicating he's trying to get inside. we don't know what the pilot behind the controls was doing. >> we just know the plane was dropping rapidly. i see one expert come out and say it is inconceivable one pilot would be locked out, leaving the other pilot by himself. we had an expert on earlier that said that happens all the time. >> there are procedures for that. in the united states you have to have a crew member stand at the door while that other pilot goes to the bathroom or whatever that

pilot needs to be. there is procedures. it's not clear in europe they have that procedures in place. i want to talk about the door itself. if you approach that cockpit door -- this is outside the cockpit looking in. you want to get inside. there's a key pad. if you're not getting any response from the pilot you can perch in a number. now, the pilot has 30 seconds to say, no, i want to keep that door locked. if the pidt doesn't do anything if he's incapacitated after 30 seconds that door unlocks and you can get in. if the pilot was incapacitated, the pilot at the controls, in theory the other pilot should have still been able to get through that door after 30 seconds. we know that descent took a long time. >> unless there was a malfunction with the door. >> that's true. there is always a possibility of a malfunction. >> this morning people are waking up and hearing the pilots were locked out. that makes you wonder did one of

the pilots deliberately crash the plane. >> that is a possible scenario. now, this door override mechanism would lead you to believe the pilot was likely not incapacitated. it's so early at this point it's difficult to say whether there's a third possibility. you mentioned the possibility of a breakdown in the door system. you can't rule something lithe that out. >> you just think the override capability aside a 24-year-old plane on a discounted airline, you think that override capability was there? >> you would think so. these things are tested and tested again and again. if there's an issue it would up during the check list leading up to the takeoff of the aircraft. you just never know. >> absolutely. is our federal government looking into the possibility right now that it was terrorism? >> well, i'm not really sure. but what we keep hearing is they're not ruling anything out. they seem to be leaning at the beagaining toward an accident. even then they were saying they

weren't ruling out any possibility of mechanical failure or an intentional act. >> doug luzader thank you very much. >> great perspective there 36 minutes after the hour and other big stories here. we begin with this. we told you about this yesterday. police say a woman's alleged kid napping for ransom, remember that in california? it was all a hoax. denise huskins was found safe on wednesday. and in a bizarre twist, she once again is nowhere to be found. authorities cannot reach her or her family. and she's hired an attorney. her boyfriend, aaron quinn told police on monday that she had been abducted from their home with a ransom demand. of $8,500. >> the statement that mr. quinn provided was such an incredible story we initially had a hard time believing it. and upon further investigation,

we were not able to substantiate any of the things he was saying. >> the case sparked a massive search involving hundreds of personnel. police say it was a huge waste of resources. al quinn and huskins could face criminal charges bizarre story. another va official stepping down amid controversy. this time, it is the department head of nationwide construction. he is leaving the job after massive cost overruns at a va construction site in denver. he is the same guy who could not come up with a good reason for getting huge bonuses. >> do you believe you deserved these bonuses? it's either yes or no or i refuse to answer. >> those bonuses were not by my own doing. those were from my superiors. >> that new denver hospital cost $1.72 billion. more than twice the original

estimated cost. this isn't just road rage. it is a full on demolition derby. just watch. >> who is this guy? >> yeah, over and over. neighbors in detroit witnessing this madness. they say it was all part of a family dispute over ten bucks. the gold suv rams into the green van not once not twice seven times. and at one point the driver actually tries to hit a guy with his car. he drives all over a neighbor's yard as well. police now investigating and charges could be filed. crazy in that neighborhood. one driving mess to another. washington, d.c. delegate eleanor holmes norton may not be able to vote in congress apparently the democrat can't park either. >> she has hit that red car next

to her repeatedly. >> and we're taking pictures. we don't think they're going to do anything about it. if she parks like that she should not be a member of congress anymore. >> holmes norton was spotted trying to squeeze her car into this diagonal spot. see that? by going straight in. the video no going viral. yeah, there's a look at your headlines. >> it looks like she made an illegal left turn across that double line to get in that way. >> so she didn't see it was diagonal, is that what you're saying? >> no, just a bad parker. >> that was the first time i heard voice over over a parking spot. it was a play by play. >> coming up google is cozy with the white house. executives meeting there at the white house. once a week since president obama took office. isn't that chummy? why is the search? gen getting a fast pass? >> look at this photo.

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joining us is the photograph and veteran who took that photo he joins us today from cleveland. good morning to you matthew. >> good morning everyone. >> saturday you were there at the national maulll in washington, d.c. you were taking pictures of things because you're an aspiring photographer. you were there at the memorial when you saw this. explain what happened? >> i was circling the memorial first trying to get good shots. as i was adjusting my camera that's when some kids came over and were dancing around it and looking up at all. i didn't think much of it at first. that's when i heard laughter from behind him from who i assume were their parents. came over and helped the kids on top of the statue. and they were still laughing as the kids were more playing than actually trying to get a pose. it was very cheerful, everybody was happy and smiling. it was very awkward especially for what the statue is. >> the statue is a wounded war

war being tended to by two female nurses there in the military. what's very telling is -- you can see in the background you see the one woman in the red walking by. when we look at the image full screen you can also see a veteran in a hat being pushed in a wheelchair by somebody else. they seem to be very quiet and grimacing at that image. >> yeah, there was a lot more people over to the left of the frame. they were all kind of glaring and putting the pressure on the parents who were seemingly oblivious to it all. and as the veterans are actually -- they circled around the entire memorial as the kids were still playing on it. it was hard to watch. and i really do regret not saying anything and speaking up. >> what would you have said to the parents? >> i am happy i got the photo first of all. but after i did take the photo i wish i would have went up to them and ask if they could explain to the kids the significance of that memorial,

what it means to a lot of people. >> now is your chance, maybe the parents or kids are watching what would you have said? you feel it's inappropriate as a veteran for those kids to be using that monument as a jungle gym? >> i do. i think as many people argue a lot of people are trying to have fun. they wed rather see kids play on memorials. i'd rather as a veteran see parents educate their kids about the sacrifices veterans made. i'd rather see that. and i wouldn't mind kids playing anywhere else, either. it's not a bad thing. >> sure. i mean, when kids are out you know, those are just kids being kids. but one of the common things we had on our online site yesterday when we posted this image, was where were the parents. kids can be kids but parents should make this a teachable moment and say that simply is not the place to be doing that. >> it really wasn't just kids

being kids. the parents were there. the parents were heavily influencing their kids to have fun on the memorial. it wasn't just, random kids lost from their parents and trying to have a good time. when i was a kid, i was very energetic and a bit of a helion but my parents wouldn't like me do that. >> your parents like my parents would have been get off that, that's inappropriate. i think growing up in my house at least. probably in your house as well. matthew munson served in the marine corp. took that picture. joining us from cleveland. thank you for your service and joining us today. >> thank you all. this is a fox news alert. we're getting brand new reports about the condition of the co-pilot at the time of that deadly germanwings crash. details straight ahead. you're going to want to hear it. google is pretty cozy with the white house. executives meeting there once a week since president obama took

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we're getting brand new information about what really took place on the flight that crashed into the french alps. there's a press conference taking place in germany. here are the prosecutors. let's listen. translator: cracking a code which would then respond to the other airplanes trying to contact him. in principal for now, you know, i'm reminding it's only 48 hours. he was breathing normally. it wasn't the breath of somebody

who was struggling. he didn't say a single word. it's total silence. i think -- i think the victim only realized at the last moment because on the recording you only hear the screams literally on the last moment of the recording. so only on the last moment. he's going to try in english.

you hear in the cockpit. in the cockpit he answered nothing. he never said a single word. it was total silence in the cockpit. i see. >> in the cockpit nothing. no word. no word, no word during the ten last minutes. yes it's not word. it's not an answer question.

>> do you think the copilot refuseered to open the door and voluntarily took the plane down? >> yes, i think voluntarily he refused toope open the door. and he turned the button to get down the plane. [ inaudible question ] >> it's an accident of a -- a plane a crash. translator: it was a reaction. >> do you know the names and nationalities of the pilots and their ethnic origins? [ speaking in a foreign language ]

translator: german national and i don't know his ethnic background. i just know he's a german national. he's not listed as a terrorist if that's what you're insinuating. the new international legislation since 9/11 imposed a double system on the cockpit door. so that no one could just enter the cockpit to -- in order to take over the controls of the airplane. and the mechanism is in fact only inside the cockpit. it's a code. an identification code. like a camera where you're recognized. and you have to press the button in order to open the door.

it depends on the airplane. only the most modern plane, this plane it was 24 years old from 91. once you go out, the door locks itself. so it's a double lock. he had short answers not a true -- before it was a normal chatter, almost joyous courteous. and then -- but when the pilot

spoke of the briefing for the landing, all the answers are brief short. there isn't a -- a change between them at that point. do you think there was a former panic or something by the co-pilot? maybe his breathing is a bit stronger than we think. to my knowledge there is no camera to film the co-pilot. but there is no feeling that there was a particular panic. because his breathing was normal. do you think that because of his breathing he was conscious because his breathing is complete completely plastic human

breathing that's what it seems at least on the recording. i started an investigation because there was a potential accident for invaloluntary homicide. for now, since this morning, there may -- there is a voluntary action which took place, but i haven't yet changed the qualification of my investigation to a voluntary. it's still involuntary homicide at this stage. it's in germany, i don't know. i think we are at the start of the investigation into this co-pilot. this has only been a few hours we've known about this.

from the information on the co-pilot, we should shortly get from the german judicial system, so he is a german, he lived in germany, so i am still waiting for the answer. and i hope by tomorrow that i will have some answers and some background. chancellor angela merkel has said pretty much that the spanish prime minister and the french president to do anything to help this inquiry. i'm hoping for a fast response from those -- both of them on any questions that i have leading on the investigation. i remind you, that this plane isn't -- can have an automatic pilot. the pilot said to the co-pilot i am leaving you in charge.

we presume he left the cockpit in order to go the toilet for natural -- he started to -- dusseldorf is not exactly each other. >> do you know the religion of the co-pilot? all i know is his nationality. i will give you that answer when i get it. but i don't think that's where this lies. his name was an dreas.

lubitz. the button you need to turn it and you turn it and it's a voluntary action because it can't be done automatically. you need to turn and turn the button in order to continue the descent. so if he falls unconscious or his head hits it, it would at most turn it just a little bit for a slight descent. so for us to go from 12,000 meters to 2,000 it would need several turns. so there's no doubt there question is it was a voluntary i believe it's a voluntary action.

one to refuse access to the cockpit two to start the command to lose altitude at a thousand meters per minute as if he was coming in for a landing. where he was in the mountains there is no other airport or true airport for -- which can -- where an airbus 320 can land. we're sure there's no one else in the cockpit? no, there's no one else in the cockpit. the next step will be all the recordings of the flight, so it will be -- the cabin pressure the exact flight path. and it would clear up that there were no other causes that could have caused this.

we do open an investigation to determine, you know i am focusing on this investigation at this moment. i want to find out what caused this accident. and there are 500 officers who are mobilized to work on this investigation. from special forces to regular officers. it's a very different accident, even removing the bodies. each one has to be hoisted up in a helicopter. the ground there, is so steep, you know you can't just land there. it's very complicated salvage

operation. i am not in the head of this co-pilot, it's very difficult for me to speculate. i simply believe in transparency, that's what the transport minister has also said. and these families who have come here to try and understand what has happened and who are -- in three languages they are being welcomed in french, spanish and german. i believe that we owe them a transparency of what the investigation is leading to and what is going on. we owe them to tell them what is going on exactly. and what we believe happened.

the families have been informed of everything that i have just told you. the same briefing i just gave them, they asked many questions. in particular about the international laws what was normal, would it be norm frl the pilot to step out of the cockpit. they asked many questions. what would be any legal procedures for the airline if they are found -- i don't know what the -- any legal implications for the airline. i am telling you 48 hours after the plane crashed. we have found the black box, we have had all the information we

can so far. despite a slight delay, i hope early not late in the evening, we're not going to stop. we're going to continue the investigation. we're going to try and find the second black box. i went over the maintenance files on this plane. and the fact they had done a small maintenance the day before the flight i want to know everything that had been carried out. i am also speaking to two different prosecutors. i wanted to try and find out what really happened. but in truth what has happened -- what has come out has led us to -- a bit closer to the real picture of what

actually happened. all i can say is that the co-pilot is perfectly able to pilot this plane on his own. the pilot has over 10000 flight -- flying hours. and the co-pilot had only been working a few months and had a few hundred hours on this airplane. that's what i know. i don't know what his age was. i'm terribly sorry, but i don't know his age.

and the dna how are you proceed ing with that? i propose to the families when they are at the chapel -- and i introduced them to the head of the identification that if they wish to give their dna in order to speed up the process for identification, that that would speed up the process. the families who arrived by plane are due to leave, perhaps this evening. i'm not sure, it may be later on. when did the passengers realize what was happening? the airbus 320 is rather a big plane.

so the passengers aren't next to work the cockpit is. so we only hear screams at the very end. it's in the last moments of the flight. and death was instant. it hit the mountain at 700 kilometers per hour. i tell you again, i've only received the best information in the night. and in the coming hours, i will see if we change this from involuntary homicide investigation. both families of the pilots and the co-pilot have arrived.

but they are separate from the families of the passengers. that is all i can tell you at this stage. i know this was raised with the media but at no point up to now do we believe this involved -- this was an act of terrorism. at this stage, nothing indicates a terrorist attack. but, obviously we will see how this -- how we proceed. and it's the french officers with collaboration with german authorities -- just before i

came in here i had the head of special forces trying to get as much information as possible. if i had this information i will give it to you voluntarily. there are important contacts with our german counterparts that are going on right now. when you first do it normally you do it by yourself. when you have 150 people with you, i wouldn't call this a suicide. that is why i am not using this word. obviously i can understand that you're asking this question. it's a legitimate question.

[ inaudible question ] [ speaking in a foreign language ] translator: no contract between the co-pilot and the pilot with the control tower. no contact. >> during the last eight minutes yeah -- translator: there were several calls from the control tower in marseille. and none of the calls were answered. there was no answer. changed the code of the

transponder, alert on the descent, no response. i have the age of the co-pilot. he is 28 years old. >> 28. pardon? [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> his name is andreas lubitz is his surname. lubitz. translator: i just received this information late last night. in the middle of the night.

that is all i can tell you. it just requires a bit of time now. i'm sorry that i didn't have this information before. in realtime. you know it's a bit -- i would have preferred to have this in realtime. obviously the investigation is dragging at this stage. i didn't personally hear, but it was translated from german i

just found this out. you know, i understand your impatience and your anxiousness to move forward. but i have procedures. and in 48 hours, i think we've made some considerable progress. will they be questioned by the officers is the question? yes i think they will first be questioned by the german authorities, referring to the families of the pilots. as soon as i'm done with you i will talk to the investigators to continue. how are the families? the families are in a state of shock. they still can't believe what happened. i tried to answer their

questions. i was with them for about an hour and a quarter during questions. there are questions which are above my technical capacity and understanding. but i answered all their questions as much as i could in my capacity. and what i could understand. and there is an individual who seems to be more responsible whether the airline is to blame, i don't know. that is beyond me. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> at this moment there is no

indication indication of an act of terrorism. translator: it's not very good english, i'm very sorry. the investigation will continuability we probably won't finish before the end of next week or maybe even the follow week. the dna identification as started -- until all -- i remind you there are 150 victims. until all victims. -- until we have managed as much as possible retrieved bodies for the families and all objects as well. will be given back to the families. for now they're part of the investigation, of course.

the personal belongings that is. what do you hope to discover with the second black box? as i reminded you earlier, it's the detail of the flight the weather, the temperature, both inside and outside of the plane. the air pressure. >> this is a fox news alert. we've been listening to a french prosecutor tell us what they have discovered. the headline if you're just getting up we were wondering why the airplane fell out of the sky two days ago. the pilot was locked out of the cockpit by the co-pilot. the co-pilot has been named a 28-year-old by the name of

andreas lubitz. >> he went from school to at the moment of impact. because they could hear his breathing. and the reason they brought that up was, the question was asked of the prosecutor, could he have been having a heart attack. we don't think so because his breathing was normal. of the action on this particular altitude selection can only be done voluntarily. it is not automatic. the airplane went up to cruising

altitude. it was there for a moment. that would explain why the pilot decided it was a good time to use the bathroom. and left. extraordinarily, and something they do not do with this particular flight unlike here in the united states. when it pilot leaves there is always another person in the cockpit. there are always at looets twoeast two people in this case there was one person. who apparently wanted to crash the plane. >> they were talking normally. the man said they were courteous and jovial. then it got business like and then it certainly changed. they went from 38,000 feet. the descent took about ten minutes thcht co-pilot. the question came up again and again in the presser. he was a german national. everybody knows the hamburg cell is the one that brought us 9/11. we're not saying anything to jump to conclusions.

if the 28-year-old co-pilot wanted to crash the plane you wonder why he wanted to. >> this apparent mass murder and suicide it leaves you wander what was going through the minds of these 150 passengers on board who are dead this morning. the recording suggests the passengers' screams begin just before the final impact. they didn't realize what was going on. the impact was so fast that the death was instantaneous according to authorities. >> because the airplane hit the mountain at 700 miles per hour. you know. >> kilometers per hour. >> thank you very much. right now the current most plausible interpretation of investigators is the co-pilot deliberately refused toopethen door and he pressed the button to deliberately send the plane down. they describe it as voluntary deliberate action. right now this investigation is still being regarded as involuntary homicide. and yet when you hear the prosecutor talk about how this guy pushed the buttons to send

it into the mountain, i've got a feeling that's going to change. >> the prosecutor essentially said he wanted to destroy the plane. they still have not gotten the second black box, the one that was able to give all the facts about the case as they know them right now. was the voice recordings. the other one will talk about what was going on with the plane. he also showed a real interest in what happened the day before with the maintenance record to find out what was wrong with that plane and why was it able to fly and not able to flight in the end. >> you can see the terrain there makes you realize why this prosecutor said this was a complicated salvage operation. removing the bodies is challenging. they're having to bring in helicopters and hoist every single body up individually. >> meanwhile, it was a very thorough briefing by the french prosecutor. let's get a little bit of analysis in what he thinks. lieutenant general thomas mcinery joins us now.

what do you think? >> it was clearly an act of terrorism. as the prosecutor said. the question is is it radical islam or is it violent extremism? whatever it was that the co-pilot did this he certainly is terrified the airline industry. we do not know what his ideology is or what his rationale is yet. we do know it is an act of terrorism. deliberately done. >> right. you have a co-pilot with 630 hours in the air 28 years old. fresh out of flight school. yet, you think general, he knew exactly what he was doing. >> he knew exactly what he was doing and he knew exactly where he would crash the airplane. that's why they're going to have to go back in and study his patterns of behavior, what was driving him. was it suicide or -- why would you take 150 -- 149 people with you when you could hang yourself at home, or was it -- is he a

martyr and that would be radical islam in which he's get 72 virgeensvirge virgins and go to heaven. >> if he was work ing with somebody, if he was a sleeper -- it's all speculation. you think somebody would have been taking credit for this as opposed to suicide. if it was suicide maybe he left a note at home. >> you would. that's why there's going to be more in depth study and trying to figure out what was his motivation. because this was clearly, an act of terrorism. whether it's radical islam or violent extremism. it was an act of terrorism against the airline industry. >> you heard the prosecutor be candid in french. he was coming out and saying as the banging started, the descent picked up. they said the descent took about ten minutes. let me ask you something, from what you know about how the

cockpit doors have been reinforced reinforced. if you have ten minutes, could you get the door down? >> again, they're pretty study. and i think they -- they used a lot of the time to try to figure out it was probably the last six minutes or five minutes brian that they really started to panic and tried to do things. and that's when the other passengers became alerted. and they were probably trying not to do that seeing what's going on. i don't really know. but the fact is it wasn't enough for what they wanted to do. when that door didn't open when he put the combination in in 30 seconds. you knew that the co-pilot was going in to override and would not let him in. >> privacy laws are different there than they are here in the united states. what we know about the pilots, the main pilot only known as patrick k. at this point. the co-pilot, this apparently mass murder. >> lubitz. >> 28 years old, a german

nation. they do not know his religion or his ideology. what type of background checks do pilots have to go through in that part of the world and here in the united states, psychological examinations things like that. >> they're pretty extensive. the thing is -- they're very sensitive on religion. that's why -- because i focus on radical islam is why i migrate to that. because there's a logic and a rationale that they become suicide bombers. for other people, it -- i would call it a violent extremist for whatever his ideology is. you would have to look into that. the airlines are pretty extensive on that. and i think we're going to find as this peels back and we get the facts. look, this is a very candid investigation. >> yes. >> before i got here, i was going to tell you that there was a high percentage that it would be terrorism. yesterday i thought it was 49%.

at this time in the morning. now it's obviously 100% terrorism. the question is what is the ideology behind the terrorism. that's what they're going to have to look at very extensively. >> sure. >> whether they get the other recorder or not, it doesn't matter. because we know it was co-pilot induced. it was a deliberate act of destroying that aircraft. >> let me ask you this, general. right now we understand this particular co-pilot was in the cockpit alone because, according to european regulations there is no rule as there is here in the united states that if the pilot goes to the bathroom or co-pilot a second person needs to sit in there whether it's the flight attendant or somebody else. that rule should have to change for europe pretty pronto. >> absolutely. it's called the two man rule. it should absolutely change. it never should have gotten this far. the fact is it is what it is. and they should change it immediately. you see it in american airlines

all the time when we're flying. when a pilot comes out, one of the stewardesses go in. they put a cart in front of the door. >> we don't know what happened to that flight. we have speculated about the pilot and what kind of flight patterns he had. and whether he wanted to take the plane. now we have to find out about these pilots what their intentions are. one deliberately crashed the plane. maybe it's time for passengers to find out who the pilots are? >> that is a brilliant statement and question brian. as this evolves and we find the real facts we're going to want to know who we're flying with and what the pilot's background is. >> we understand. we're trying to scramble to get a picture. it looks like the co-pilot, we have a picture of the 28-year-old that we're going to share. patrick s, we don't know his last name. he's the pilot with all the experience that they wanted to get inside. this, we understand is.

>> that is the co-pilot. if you're just joining us right now. that news from french prosecutors is that young man 28 years old, andreas lubitz locked the pilot out of the cockpit and at cruising altitude pushed a button that essentially allowed the airplane to go down. he refused to open the door. we know this because the flight voice recorder you could hear in the background slight knocking of the door after the pilot excused himself from the cockpit. and then it got louder and got louder. then you could hear the normal breathing of this man, right up to the moment of impact. >> that's right. there's speculation he may have accelerated this co-pilot once he began to hear that knocking and the loud banging as he was trying to smash through. >> can you --

>> a press conference a short time ago. one thing they brought up. currently we're keeping the families together. the pilot and their families are being held separately. after that press conference, you better make sure those families are kept separately. it looks like somebody did this deliberately. >> to their credit, the french prosecutors actually briefed the families before they briefed the press. can you imagine, you're in this jet, and -- one of the 150 people on the jet -- and you notice that the pilot is in the front of your airplane. at this point they had no idea anything was going wrong. and the pilot is banging as hard as he can. you know, i'm sure he was trying everything he could to pry that door open. as we just heard from doug luzader there is a key pad where you can punch a code. and everybody throughout the airline knows what the code is. the door will automatically open within 30 seconds unless somebody inside the cockpit pushes the don't open button. apparently that co-pilot pushed the don't open the door button.

next thing you know, they flew into the side of the mountain. and apparently according to the voice recorder, the screams were hurld only in the moments before it crashed. apparently, they were probably in clouds or something like that. they couldn't see exactly where they where. when they did, too late. >> unfortunately death presumed to be instantaneous as soon as they had impact in the french alps there. and, you know 150 lives. the salvage effort for trying to get them out and the families to be reconnected with them and be able to bury their loved ones is going to take quite a bit of time. if you check out the terrain there, they're having to have helicopters go down and hoist the bodies up individually. >> they've been doing that for 48 hours. joining us is a aviation expert. we're processing thixinformation through the press conference as quickly as you are. you're the expert. bring us inside the cockpit and

outside the cockpit. tell me the scenario as you see it. >> since we started covering this on tuesday morning, this one didn't make any sense. it was clear that something like this had to have been what happened. when i saw the loss of altitude and the constant speed of the aircraft. that indicates that someone programmed the autopilot through the flight management system to have the aircraft make this kind of plummet. so it really is no great surprise in what we learned last night. >> can i ask you to back up a second. you're telling me this wasn't a decision as the pilot took over manually to flight you're saying this was plugged in prior to takeoff? >> either he hand flew it -- if you look at the charts as they're descending. think about it as a car on the top of the hill. if you're rolling down the hill, you pick up speed as you get further down the hill correct? in an airplane you can control that speed. what happened here, is the air

speed in that aircraft stayed around 430 all the way to the ground. that would indicate either a co-pilot induced flight system or he was careful to make sure the plane didn't break up. >> he continued on the flight path as earlier. something suggested if there was trouble they would try to turn around. they kept going straight. perhaps what the co-pilot did was he simply turned the altitude indicator on the cruise -- autopilot so that it started to go down. all he'd have to do is twist a button right? >> that's right. he could set that to whatever feet a minute he wanted to descend. that's what he did. he did not go towards the airfield, which was about 32 miles to the west with sufficient runway for him to land at. he went 109 miles continuing on his flight. that would indicate to me this wasn't an emergency the pilots were working all the way thru

the flight. >> is that something that would have been able to be known by people on the ground? >> i think probably the suspicion was there from the beginning. once we heard the cockpit voice recorder. once you get the indication that there's only one person in the cockpit and the other one is banging on the door. that's got to tell us that's a nefarious act. >> the general said he waited at the right time to put that plane down to make it the toughest to recover and discover. as a guy that's been in the cockpit, how do you feel about somebody breathing normally in the cockpit as your plane is descending into a mountain? how is that physically possible. what could be going through his mind to be breathing normally moments before death. >> i don't see how anyone would fly an airplane inthe the alps.

>> the pilot was on the outside trying to bang on the door to get in. let me ask you this, are we at the point where maybe the super locked doors are not worth the trouble? you go back over the last ten or so years, you had the incident here in 99 with egypt air where the guy was committing suicide and flew the jet into the atlantic after he took off from jfk. you have the incident in japan. there was one in africa. apparently this one now. they all look like suicide. they all locked somebody out. maybe it's time to make it easier to fwet back in. >> maybe it's time we take another look at a year ago today. or around this time a year ago when the malaysian plane disappeared in the middle of nowhere. could that have been the same kind of scenario? >> yeah we look back. the investigation kind of has halted. we look back the pilot had all types of weird maps and destinations and was an expert

in this area. we weren't able to find the plane and put it together. now we have this guy on a flight. the pattern never changed. he was en route to dusseldorf. there was no pushing or pulling. there was descent because the pilot deliberately flew the plane into a mountain is. >> the idea that the passengers didn't know. i'm not so sure about. you've got a pilot banging on the door. this is not a large aircraft. it's an airliner, but it's not a huge airliner. they knew something was wrong. >> all right. the second black box hasn't been recovered yet. what we're hearing from the press conference that we're learn more just about the weather and temperature inside and outside. the cabin pressure, coordinates, things like that. is there anything else we can glean from the second black box that may have a completely different outcome than what we are speculating this morning, this 28-year-old co-pilot, we're putting his picture up here and

ulcaing him a mass murderer, is there any deutin your mind that everyone could be wrong? >> you know aviation nothing surprises me in all the years i've been doing this. i don't believe we'll get a whole lot out of the flight data recorder other than the reprogramming of the autopilot. if that's the scenario he used that will appear on the flight data recorder. we may get confirmation of what we originally thought. >> when you are in an airplane and you see the pilot and co-pilot. to us we think of them as a team. the truth is, the way the modern airlines work these days some of these pilots are paired with people you barely even know, right? >> that's sometimes true. especially in this country, we teach them crew resource management techniques. how to work together, how to override other in an emergency. that doesn't -- obviously the

scenario of what we're looking at here is not going to help you if someone wants to get something badly done. >> right. if your partner is bent on crashing an airplane that day. he's not going to mention that when the airport bus picks you up to take you to the airport in the morning. >> not part of the preflight briefing. i also point out the fact that this co-pilot first officer, really was very light on hours. here in the united states would not be allowed to be a first officer. >> 630 he would not be allowed to be a first officer sbl we require 1,500 for first officers. >> do you get paid less when you're on discount airlines you hire people with less experience? >> you have a shortage of pilots world wide where you don't have a huge choice of pilots. in this country the faa has increased the hours for copilot

and and pilot. >> according to the prosecutor he had been on this plane for about 200 hours. going forward, is this particular case, where we now have evidence that this pilot was locked out, is this going to change anything? >> well i think we have to look at the technology. we have an unintended consequence of trying to keep the flight crew case. ipthis case and maybe previous cases we have a flight crew who is on revenge. is there a way around that perhaps. things happen so quickly. we had eight to ten minutes to react. even if there was a remote way of taking over that aircraft it would take so long to be able to confirm that. >> the recordings of the exchanges between the co-pilot and main pilot, seemed courteous we're told. that things were just fine. so you're trying to work out what is going on in this

co-pilot's mind to all of a sudden flip a switch and do something terrible. what kind of psychological tests are done there in germany and france and what kind of psychological evaluations are done in the united states? >> we're pretty complete in the way we do evaluations in pilots. there was a flight where a pilot went a little bit crazy on a flight and had -- the plane had to be terminated early. that was a few years ago. al but i don't know what they do in germany. you never -- if you're looking -- talking to psychologists about a suicide person's mind they say you can nut put yourself in their shoes. if you can't do that it's hard to detect what that person is thinking. >> thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. we'll get back to you as soon as

we find out what exactly happened. the statement that sticks out for me from the prosecutor. the co-pilot wantsed to destroy the plane. if that was your goal you were successful, as well as destroying 150 lives and thousands more hooked to those lives on this day 48 hours from the crash. >> he deliberately sent the plane down voluntary deliberate action. it is 20 minutes before 9:00 eastern time. if you are just joining us let us tell you what we have found out over the last couple of hours. it's a fox news alert. we wondered why that germanwings airplane went down. the pilot was locked out of the cockpit. that man you see screen left is a german national, 28 years old. he was the co-pilot who stayed in the cockpit. he's the guy who made sure the pilot did not get back into the cockpit. and then according to french authorities, he pressed the button to deliberately send the plane down. the co-pilot was alive at the

moment of impact. thaen they know that by his breathing. it's not like he passed out or had a heart attack. he knew what he was doing. >> he knew what he was doing. he was looking to bring that plane down. you heard the frantic pounding on the door. it got louder and louder. for some reason they were unable to get the door down. they knew it was happening. the one thing they are saying is they do not believe there was panic on the flight because they only heard the screaming at the very last second. >> let's bring in peter johnson jr. you've been following this story for the last 48 hours. you have somemotor information on this. >> prosecutors are really engaging in a manhunt in terms of lubitz. are there ties to terror as lieutenant general mcinery were speculating. did he have a psychiatric

background. we know lufthansa do not require exams to determine the competency of their pilots. in fact even if they're taking antidepressants, they're allowed to fly. we do know there have been about five suicide by jet incidents since 1982. many of them in the far east. one in africa. another one perhaps involving indonesia. that will be the focus going forward. going to his hometown, going to his family. seeing what was at risk with lubitz. >> the prosecutors said at this point it is still an involuntary homicide investigation. for him to say okay the guy deliberately did it. i think that's going to change. >> i think it has to change. i can understand what he was saying. hopefully that was a translation issue. it appears to be an intentional act at this point. their determination at this point is that mr. lubitz was

alive and alone in the cockpit despite the other pilot's entreaties to open the door. we do know there is an emergency access on that particular model of the airbus. but it can be overridden by the conscious person or pilot in the cockpit. that's obviously designed to prevent a hostage takers from forcing flight attendants or other pilots to get folks into the cockpit and crash the entire plane. we also know -- it's not been confirmed -- based upon one online press release at least that mr. lubitz the pilot received some kind of certification from the faa back in 2013. >> what does that mean? >> they said he had achieved certain milestones in terms of education and had been put into a certain faa list. that doesn't seem consistent with the report we've been hearing that he had only six or

700 hours of flight time. my understanding from reading about this, all through the night, is that you do need at least a thousand to 1,500 hours as a co-pilot. we know that lufthansa and its subsidraries had had a strike in the last few weeks. there is an issue with low cost airlines in europe with regard to using temporary employees. self-employed employees who are not -- >> daily hires? >> in some way. but some of them are not actually employed by the airlines that they work for. they work for agencies. i don't know the relevance of that. but that's one of the factors. >> that may be going on in europe. a lot of americans travel over there and say hey this is great way to hip hop around. >> we don't know if this guy is having a bad day relationship or suffering from depression. we know he did this intentionally. we don't know anything about terrorism. we know his actions took the lives of 150 people.

but that's all we know right now. >> we know it has a terroristic effect when that occurs in terms of aviation and confidence. clearly, this was looked at 10,000 different ways after 2000 in terms of hardening the cockpit. obviously, the cockpit was hardened. because the other pilot was not able to get into the cockpit once the pilot decided no one could enter. but it doesn't appear to be a situation where by a pilot is unconscious. because if the pilot was unconscious, the likelihood the toggle switch which we showed earlier would not be in a locked position and he could gain entrance. >> joining us is a former pilot robert mark. for the folks who are just joining us, the news is the germanwings plane crashed into that mountain because the pilot was locked out. the co-pilot, a 28-year-old, pressed a button to deliberately send the plane down. wouldn't let the pilot in.

you can hear on the voice recorder the pounding. what do you think? >> well, other than being in a state of shock, that's probably the first item. but i guess the thing that concerns me the most, is how in the world did this guy get hired if he was so loopy that he was -- in this kind of a state. again, we don't know how much time this guy had been working. i guess the reports are varying here. >> they're saying 630 hours. he got out of flight school in 2013. >> okay. well again, then how did the guy get hired? here in the states we do a fairly thorough psychological exam of people. but, also, i guess the day-to-day operations. when you work in such close proximity to somebody for long hours, you kind of get to know them. and i just -- i guess i'm having so much trouble understanding how no one noticed anything odd about this man before this

moment. >> robert, could it be what peter johnson just pointed out, it could be a man power thing? they -- how were -- >> there was a work strike with lufthansa. it's a subject of discussion. al in fact there's going to be a conference in brussels this friday with the european cockpit association looking at work conditions for temporary pilots on low cost airlines in europe. we don't know if that's an issue here. and obviously, it's probably a stretch to say that someone decided to ditch a plane into the alps based on bad working conditions. but we know nothing at this point about pilot lubitz. that will be the key. >> not a word was said in the cockpit. the breathing they said did not change. it made him think he was indeed conscious and knew what he was doing. i'll ask you the same question i asked the previous pilot. tell me about the person that can keep his breathing normal, not answer a single pounding at

the door pick up on the descent, see the mountain through the glass and not change to the way he was breathing? what can be going through that person's mind? >> again that's even more unusual. that would take a rare person to realize that they're about to die and do nothing about it. you would think their respiration would at least go up. again, with that kind of stamina maybe that's how someone gets through a psychological evaluation. we're talking about what they did but we don't understand why they did it. i don't believe for a minute it was a work related issue. you know, they're using contract pilots for years. i understand there is great deal of upset in the european community how this is working.

i don't think anybody believes that anybody is going to be crazy enough to take a whole loaded airplane of passengers with them just to prove a point. if they rur going to do that then why not say before you hit the mountain, by the way i'm doing this because of. >> that's a great idea. i think what we'll be seeing is a robust investigation by german authorities, by frernnch authorities. by the fbi into lubitz. they will be freightsing the last year of his life. they'll be looking at phone records pharmacy records, medical records. they'll be looking at his employment records. they'll be looking for statements. they'll be on twitter facebook. there is some reports that his facebook page has been taken down. >> i'm looking at his facebook page now. we're trying to get permission to post it. all i see is a shot of new york city and a whole bunch of things relating to flight. and i also would add this, he's been spending his whole life

wanting to be a pilot. he reached his goal and joined a pilot club. >> the pilot club put out a statement that said he was a great member and all he wanted to do in life was to fly. robert mark, you're still with us. explain how this worked. they get up to cruising altitude. and the destination didn't change. apparently the pilot left. was locked out presumably to use the bathroom we think. theoretically they could have been a medical emergency or something on board that he went to eye ball with his own two eyes. that's when the pounding started. first it was soft, then it got louder. what would the co-pilot who crashed the plane into the side of the mountain? what he have to do physically with the controls to simply send the plane to go down without changing course? >> not much at all. i mean, what you could do is a -- an altitude function in the

cockpit that we use to tell the autopilot and remind ourselves what altitude we're cleared to. you could set it to, say, 4,000 feet and just roll a little knob down and start a descent. now the airplane says, oh, you want me to descend to 5,000 feet. got it, i'll do it. it pulls the throttles back. and it starts down because it thinks the pilot knows what he's doing. it doesn't know there is mountains out there. it's an easy thing to do. >> when you drop that quickly, does the mask drop for the passengers? >> no. from what we can tell he wasn't coming down that quick. i know people have said 3,000 feet a minute or somewhere in that area. that's not radical. at least not to me. i have spent a lot of time in jet airplanes. if it was an emergency situation, we'd be coming down you know, 10,000 feet a minute trying to get down to the right

altitude. the masks only come down if there's a loss of pressurization or if the cockpit manually hits the button to drop them. otherwise they don't come down. >> that did not happen. robert mark, thank you very much. former united states air force lieutenant general thomas mcinery joins us. you were with us about 30 minutes ago. we have gotten more information. you've been able tool process it. what do you think happened? >> well again, it's an act of terrorism. everybody is asking the right question, why. and we have to examine the co-pilot's background and everything that would drive this. and have we heard the final impact just before impact what he said? has that been released yet. so i think those are the right questions. the whole focus now goes on the co-pilot and what drove him to do this. which enables you to discount a lot of other things on aircraft

maintenance, a whole host of things. the co-pilot is the focus on this issue. by the way, it also opens up mh 370 for further investigation. >> from last year. keep in mind, terrorism is defined as requiring a political intent. we don't know if there's any political intent. this guy could have broken up with his girlfriend and couldn't see the light through the forest for the trees. >> that's exactly right. we don't know that. we need to go in a in depth look to find out what exactly motivated him. we may not find it then. >> so you don't agree with the prosecutor who said nothing indicate terrorism. you see a guy who drives a plane into the side of a mountain as terrorism. >> correct. it may not be radical islam. but it is terrorism to the industry itself. i assure you european airline industry is now in chaos. >> i'm looking at his facebook page, which has been sent to us and taken down.

i imagine right now if they have 500 special ops working on this they are hitting his friends and associates that are following him on facebook and rounding them up as quickly as possible. >> exactly. that's what they have to do, brian. they have to dig in and see what drove a person to deliberately fly an airplane into the alps. >> you also have to wonder, general, you know he didn't know this co-pilot, lubitz, 28 years old. he didn't know the pilot was going to excuse himself and use the bathroom. it's a possibility he has been waiting for the right time to make his move and two days ago that was his time. >> that's exactly right. i think that's what we'll find out. he didn't know at that exact point. once the pilot left the cockpit, he knew what he was going to do. he had preplanned this for whatever reason. he had preplanned this when he was alone in the cockpit, he was

going to do the. >> general, continue to work the story if you would. your sources are tremendous. now it's all about the investigation, and background check. let's go to an expert in this area. you talked to me yesterday and you were not comfortable with the fact that they had ruled out any act of deliberate terror? >> i was. i thought the officials were too quick to rule out a criminal act givenen the facts and circumstances. nothing made since. kind of like the malaysian airlines. nothing fit together. two things jump out at me. one thing interesting you have to understand is lufthansa has what's called abtraining. you have no time, you can start with them and you work your way up through the ranks in the order of six months to 18 months you're flying an airplane. as opposed to the u.s. where you come out of the military or you're a flight instructor at some airline. you know, if you wanted to be an

airline pilot. i'm not saying this is what happened. if you wanted to put somebody in a position like that and you wanted to get it done sooner rather than later. go up through lufthansa would be the way to do it. the second thing is if this guy made a conscious decision to descend this airplane under control, which means if his objective was to fly the airplane into the mountains, that wouldn't be necessary to do that. it's conceivable -- nobody knows what's going on in his mind -- it's conceivable this guy decided to go into the mountains once he thought the captain was going to be able to break down the door. you ask me, it's hard to tell. this is very frightening. >> french officials speaking in the press conference earlier today said all signs are pointing to a deliberate act. this pilot wanted to destroy the plane. fred, what's the likelihood that anybody else knew that this was potentially going to happen? anyone else in this co-pilot's life? could there potentially be other nefarious acts that could have

been connected to it that may have been planned for future attacks? >> i spent years as an investigator, you go back through and you look under literally every rock. you look at his computer, his phone logs. twitter accounts whatever you can find to find some evidence. i mean, this guy may -- if this truly was his objective -- the guy could have broken up with his girlfriend. i mean that is over the top, but, you know, it's possible. but there's got to be something in his background. another thing, you know these terrorist groups the way they operate. they prey on fear. if ultimately may want to take responsibility for this. >> you see it as a criminal act, don't you? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> all right. thank you very much. you're a pilot. you've been watching breaking news coverage of the latest with the germanwings plane disaster crashing into the mountain two days ago. now we know the co-pilot on that

doomed passengers jet flew it into the french alps on purpose. killing all 150 people on board. you're looking at him this is the guy. 28-year-old lubitz of germany. he was alone at the controls and refused to let the pilot back in the cockpit. >> the flight voice recorder providing the pilot tried to bang through and smash the door and save the plane. >> screams from the passengers were also heard on the flight data -- voice recorder just before the moment of impact. they are believed to have all died instantaneously because the airplane flew into the mountain at 700 kilometers per hour. >> a candid press conference we just witnessed. right now, the crash is still not believed to be an act of terror. officials maintain the co-pilot was not a known terrorist. stay tuned to fox news channel

all day long as we try to unfold his background. as you see, social media can give a lot of clues. >> some had suggested maybe the co-pilot didn't respond because he had a heart attack or fainted. they've been able tool listen to the flight recorder and according to his -- the voices and the sounds inside the cockpit and they could hear the alarms going off about the altitude and everything else, as he approached the french alps, his breathing was absolutely norm want normal. that is to suggest the co-pilot was fine before it hit the mountain. >> at 700 kilometers per hour. incredible. >> extraordinary story. the pilot locked out. the news continues right now here on the fox news channel. watch this. bill: fox news alert. the stunning and significant developments in the crash of flight *. flight 9525. a french prosecutor saying the

copilot intentionally crashed the plane with 150 people on board. martha: this is the news we have received. officials confirm the copilot 28-year-old, locked the the cockpit door, pressed the button it's a twist knob that sent that plane into the long