that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops here because we're looking out for you. breaking tonight investigators seen leaving the former home of a germanwings co-pilot with bags of evidence after he is accused of doing the unthinkable, deliberately flying a jet filled with passengers into the side of a mountain killing 149 innocent men, women and children. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone, i'm megyn kelly. it was just 24 hours ago we firs brought you reports that one of the pilots aboard germanwings flight 9525 had been locked out of the cockpit before the plane went down. in the hours since the news has only gotten more heartbreaking and more disturbing. prosecutors today revealing that chilling evidence taken from the black box suggests co-pilot

andreas lubitz, shown here, intentionally downed this plane. and those onboard knew what was about to happen to them. here is what we know tonight. tuesday's flight from spain to germany appeared to be routine. but everything changes when the captain and the co-pilot start their mid-flight briefing. the co-pilot's responses go from courteous to curt as the plane reaches its cruising altitude of 38,000 feet, the captain leaves the cockpit presumably to use the restroom. he puts the co-pilot in charge, sealing the victim's fate. the co-pilot apparently locks the door and locks the key pad that would let anyone back in. reports indicate tonight that the autopilot is also reprogrammed at this time to alter the plane's altitude from 38000 feet to 100 feet, sending the jet and all onboard on an eight-minute dive toward certain death. at first the captain is seemingly unaware of what is

happening. he tries knocking on the cockpit door to get back in but he's met with silence. here's the prosecutor today. >> translator: he had no reason to not respond to the tower who's questioning his loss of altitude. he had no reason to tap in a code which would then respond to the other airplanes who were trying to contact him. in principle for now you know i'm reminding you it's only 48 hours. he was breathing normally. it wasn't the breath of someone who was struggling. >> the captain starts banging on the door, emergency alarms start to sound. pleas from air traffic control go unanswered. finally the passengers start to realize what is about to happen, that they are being murdered. their cries of terror reach the cockpit recorder. and as for the co-pilot he remains calm. >> translator: he didn't say a single word. it's total silence. i think the victims only realize at the last moment because on the recording you only hear the screams literally on the last moments of the recording.

>> the plane hit the ground at more than 400 miles per hour. death was instant. as of now authorities suggest there is no indication this is linked to terrorism. what it is, mass murder. tonight we will examine how this could happen and if it could happen here. but we begin with trace gallagher reporting from our west coast newsroom on what we have learned about this co-pilot, trace. >> megyn, 27-year-old andreas lubitz started training with lufthansa the parent company of germanwings in 2008. but in 2009 he pulled out of the program for six months. the german newspaper reports lubitz's friends say he took a break because he was burned out or depressed. the airline would only say if it was a medical issue they would not be entitled to that information, but it would be part of the investigation. lufthansa also says when lubitz rejoined the training program he underwent a battery of psychological tests and passed them with flying colors.

here's the ceo. listen. >> translator: his performance was without any criticism, nothing at all. it was striking. in a company like ours where we are so proud of our selection criteria, of our safety criteria, et cetera, this is even more of a shock. >> and because germy doesn't have a lot of private pilots, the airlines recruit their pilot candidates directly out of college then bring them up through the system, which includes instruction at an airline training center near phoenix arizona. that training center would not talk to us about the time lubitz spent there but before the crash lubitz only had 630 hours of flight time. that is very low for a co-pilot of an a320. u.s. pilots flying similar airplanes would likely have three times as many hours. german authorities say while he was alone in the cockpit of flight 9525 the co-pilot reprogrammed the autopilot to crash, to take the plane from 38,000 feet to 96 feet.

the plane hit the mountains at 6,000. and the control the co-pilot activated requires several different turns and could not be programmed accidentally. when the cockpit doors lock, there is a keypad that would allow a pilot to get in using an emergency number. there is no indication the captain of the germanwings flight punched in that emergency code but even if he had it can be overridden by the pilot inside the cockpit. for now it's all about motive, which is why investigators have now pulled out bags and boxes of potential evidence from his apartment and his parent's home. they're looking for information about religion relationships finances. but those who knew andreas lubitz are baffled. listen. >> translator: i'm just speechless. i don't have any explanation for this. knowing andreas, this is just inconceivable for me. >> and a key question tonight

is, if it was deliberate, why not take the plane straight in? why program an eight-minute fatal descent? megyn. >> trace, thank you. so how is it that authorities can seemingly rule out terror so soon? let's bring in our panel. robert mark is publisher of jet wine.com and former pilot. and kathleen bangs is a former commercial airline pilot and former airline training instructor. thank you all for being here. jonathan, let me start with you as an investigator on your thoughts on how they can say so quickly that this was not terror? >> well, i don't think they can. i think it's important, megyn, to look at who's saying that. you have a prosecutor and also different people associated with the airlines that are saying that. the important thing here is that the investigators that are doing the investigating on the ground do not consider it absolutely not the possibility. they have to stay focused as they continue to investigate this. >> they're not offering -- you know, they say we know his nationality, we don't know his

religion, but we don't think it's relevant. they're not even offering it up. how important do you think that information is robert? >> well, i think it's important to keep one other thing in mind just touching on that topic a minute ago is that this may not be terrorism in the sense that we've come to understand it from people in the arabian peninsula. but this could certainly be domestic terrorism. and, you know, really that's what we're going to have to figure out. >> well, there's no question it was mass murder according to the authorities. what we're looking for here is -- what we're wondering is whether this was some act of terror in the sense that we've come to know it. it is interesting they've ruled it out so quickly. let me ask you, kathleen is there any way they're wrong about this being an intentional act? because what i hear as the evidence is he locked the pilot out of the cockpit, they could hear him breathing and he sounded like he was breathing normally and was ignoring all attempts to contacts from air traffic control. >> right. >> and looked like he made

deliberate acts from the time the pilot was locked out to fly the plane down to 100 feet. >> yeah. i mean, of course what is shocking in this tragedy is that they've come out so soon, within just a few days, and decided where the blame lies. i agree it's really looking bad for this co-pilot. i mean, it really is. but i would like to see this investigation also try to stretch their imagination to think what possible -- what other conceivable things could have perhaps happened. because we still don't know for sure like you mentioned, did that captain actually put the key code in? did he actually key in the right code? we don't know that. is there conceivably a scenario that this co-pilot could have had an epileptic seizure. >> -- whiles it was going down, jonathan. >> honestly i don't think it's possible. the pilots of that same aircraft that i've talked to said that -- and it was a surprise to even myself that while the plane is on autopilot they can make the adjustments to where that plane changes altitude. and if you put it to a

certain -- in a certain way that plane will fly itself directly into the ground. the fact that that happened just telling us and also the fact that he overrode the door lock mechanism tells us he had an intention. >> and what do you make of the door situation, robert, on this? because those doors are reinforced after 9/11. is there any way, i mean, as the passengers understood although it was the last minute that this jet was going down and must have seen their pilot banging on the cockpit door trying to get in as alarms were going off was there any way they could have r rushed it pushed it in? >> not that i can imagine. i mean, if they'd had the opportunity for some sort of a fire ax or something, they might have potentially broken through. but those doors are there and put together that way for a reason, so people can't get in. we just never assumed they'd also be keeping the good guys out. >> one thing they don't do in europe and on lufthansa is

psychological testing. kathleen, is that a mistake? >> i don't think so. what test could it be? how could all these countries agree on what test we would use? i think it's important that most carriers people know who the weak link is. people know that person that doesn't really fit the bell curve of being a pilot. >> they do? >> there's not a company you can't go to where pilots don't sit around and talk about the one or two pilots they wish the airline would get rid of. >> that's not good. >> i know. this guy was only there for a year and a half. and he only had 600 hours stretched out since like 2009. so doubtful that too many people in the airline actually knew him that well. but what we really have to be self-reporting. and i don't know psychological testing is going to do anything. but generally there has to be more of an emphasis where they think someone might be suffering from depression or some kind of contained rage that they do something. but remember pilots excel at compartmentalization. that's why they're good at being

pilots. they can overcome their emotion. that can be hard to detect. >> i do want to tell the audience that the rules over here are different than they are over in europe. we're going to talk about that next. >> right. >> as i stand the panel by because one of the big concerns tonight is what could happened in europe actually happen here with an american jet liner. and our panel will be back with that part of the story. plus. as folks look at, you know, the fact bowe bergdahl is now being charged and we have these three of the five taliban commanders trying to return to terror they're asking this question, was it worth it? last night the administration defended the deal to trade five taliban terrorists for a man now accused of desertion by our army. up next the soldiers that bowe bergdahl left behind get their chance to weigh-in in an extraordinary "the kelly file" follow-up. and then a middle east meltdown as saudi arabia starts bombing forces loyal to iran. and when the media questions the white house about what appears to be a crisis, one reporter

called the response astounding. ambassador john bolden is here to sort it out. >> the president said it's a success. he was wrong right? why can't he say he's wrong and we're trying to fix it, we're trying to figure it out? it seems like we're going around and around that it's still a model when it's not, right?

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back now to the breaking news on our top story. we are getting new details about how security measures on that doomed germanwings flight may have backfired. french officials accusing the co-pilot of locking the captain out of the cockpit and deliberately crashing the plane into a mountain killing 149 innocents. could it happen here? let's bring back our panel now, rob mark john than gilliam and kathleen banks. what about that? we have different rules about what happens when the captain leaves the cockpit, robert? >> we certainly do. we always put somebody in the cockpit, flight attendant, just to kind of keep an eye on things to slow this kind of thing down. it's a little more difficult when you have another body in the cockpit. and we did that after 9/11 specifically for this kind of reason. it's just the rest of the world didn't take up that same idea. >> uh-huh. you know, jonathan some say a

pilot determined to bring down a plane could probably take out a flight attendant who was in there. but is that really -- can you be so glib about it? somebody like this who clearly wanted privacy wanted to do it in a calm controlled way, i don't know it's different when you have to stab someone first, strangle someone -- i don't know. do you think this is a worthwhile security measure that needs to be more tightly enforced? >> absolutely. i think unfortunately when we develop policies one of the main problems you have is you may actually create another problem. i think this door although it keeps people out, it also keeps the pilots out if they leave. and the co-pilot does something nefarious. and i think they need to come up with either a two-person pass code where if something's going on the pilot enters a pass code, flight attendant enters a pass code that way they can override it and get in. i understand pilots don't, you know really feel good about these psychological screenings, but unless they're better than

detecting a mass murderer than a psychologist, they should really start to forward think these thinks because attackers will always figure out ways around policy. >> what do you think kathleen? the fact the pilot in this case had 150 lives, 149 plus his own, you look at a new york city bus and you've got dozens of people. if we start doing psychological testing for every public servant who has people's lives in his hands, or hers, going to test a lot of people. >> right. the airlines used to do psychological testing as part of their screening. in the earlier days the pilots came from military, which did their own screening. i'm not against it. it's just going to take a lot of agreement on what test would be used but not only would it be used for screening to hire but once the pilot's been there for two years five years, 15 years who's going to have access to these? will these records follow him? >> the other thing is how often are you going to do it? because according to those who knew him last fall was happy and seemed fine.

and yet something clearly happened to him psychologically. >> right. >> megyn if i could -- oh go ahead. >> go ahead, kathleen. >> if it's true that that break that he took had something to do with depression that's going to be very very interesting. because you know suicide is not just depression. it's really rage turned inward. what he did was a very spiteful act of rage if this turns out to be true that he perpetrated this tragedy. be very very interesting to find out if there's any records on that. any notes that could be accessible to the court. >> go ahead, robert. >> well, i was going to say that i think what kathleen said earlier about self-reporting it is absolutely where we're going to have to head, i believe. because as she mentioned, you know, psychological testing it depends on the test, it depends on the psychologist. it depends how it's administered. but self-reporting is not something we're used to. i mean, doctors do it lawyers do it if you see a bad apple, you are ethically responsible for turning that person in. we don't think like that. >> last question, jonathan.

any concern about the amount of publicity the whole keypad entry system has gotten in connection with this whole diz ast sner. >> well, i don't know. here's the thing, if bad guys want to know about these keypads, they're going to send somebody to flight school to figure it out as far as terrorism goes. but i think the good thing that's coming out of this is again, policies are being re-evaluated. we just need to re-evaluate these policies before something like this happens. every time a pilot takes a plane down it's mass murder every time. >> it's too horrifying to really think about what those folks went through. thank you all so much. >> thank you. >> you're welcome, megyn. we are also getting reports tonight that saudi arabia is considering invading the country of yemen. we've already seen military action. in order to fight forces loyal to iran. remember this is one of those countries that the president was touting as a success and the model of anti-terrorism. this is one country we're working with in iraq that's working against us in -- i mean,

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from collapsing just a few weeks ago. their president has fled the houthis are. reports now the iranians are busily reading through the classified material we left behind. so what does the white house say about it now? >> why can't you just say, you know what we were wrong. it's not a model for success. >> because ed we've been very clear about what our strategy is as it relates to confronting extremists that seek to establish a safe haven in chaotic, unstable countries with chaotic, unstable governments. >> despite that chaos which existed last fall, the president said it's a success. he was wrong, right? why can't he say he was wrong and we're trying to fix it we're trying to figure it out? it seems we're going around and around that it's still a model when it's not right? >> we have put intense pressure

on extremists inside of yemen. and it has mitigated the threat they pose to the u.s. and the west. >> john bolten is the united states -- was the united states ambassador under president george w. bush. ambassador turns out the people with a death to america chant they were a problem. even saudi arabia felt they were a problem. and now they're bombing them. and they're fighting a proxy for iran. and we're kind of supporting the saudis, but in iraq we're working with iran. so we're kind of bombing iran and saudi arabia are supporting those and we're working with iran and iraq and white house doing the line from "animal house" which is remain calm all is well. do i have it about right? >> i would say incoherent would be a good way to describe the administration. in the past few months they have taken over sanaa, the government

of yemen has ceased to function i think it's ceased to exist as a state. and it now hosts surrogate for iran at the back door of saudi arabia and the other oil producing arab monarchs -- >> let me stop you there make sure everybody is with us. this is basically our u.s.-backed government in yemen collapsed. and these houthis took over. the death to america people. jen psaki came on "the kelly file" and said don't worry about them. actions speak louder than words. that's bluster, basically is what she told me. then our ally saudi arabia starts bombing them. seems like they're worried about the actions there. >> well, they should have. i think if anything the saudis waited too long. because yemen is a threat not only due to the houthi but orveg the al qaeda and arabian peninsula. >> there's a third actor we need to worry about and that's one of the most lethal terror groups in the world. maybe they're the ones reading through our private documents we left behind at the embassy. >> or they could be trading them. all of this now becomes acutely

important because of the deal that the white house is about to sign with iran on the nuclear weapons program, which will give in effect a license to iran to continue to proceed with uranium en enrichment and the other activity that won't be covered by the deal critical to weaponization. so when you have that in iran's arsenal, the al houthi at the arabs back door. this is trouble. >> do you really think the iranians are going to hold it against us that we're kind of backing this saudi thing against the iranian folks in yemen. because we're working with the iranians against isis in iraq. i'm sure the ayatollah will understand. >> look, the iranians are playing us for fools. they have taken us to the cleaners on these negotiations over the nuclear program chlts we are now functioning in effect as the air force for the shia militia in iran. >> i don't even know what you're

saying. it just seems like aren't we on all different siends of the conflict depending on what country we're talking about? and isn't it the truth that yemen is nowhere close to a success nowhere close. >> well rets not forget somali either. the state has ceased to exist in yemen. somalia has not had an effective government in 25 years. so i think the president is still following the ideology that terrorism is not a threat. >> okay. i think we managed to wade through it. i mean, it's so confusing. but i think the term you should walk away with is hot mess. great to see you ambassador. >> thank you. conspiracy theories are running wild tonight after details leak of an army training plan to take thousands of troops and infiltrate them into american neighborhoods. we'll investigate. plus, as bowe bergdahl is officially charged with desertion and leaving his fellow soldiers behind on the

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of the doubt. >> does the state department consider sergeant bergdahl to be a deserter? >> the state department -- no lucas. look, what we've said is we are going to learn the facts about what happened here. >> according to those around him platoon mates squad mates, they said he walked off -- >> some of them -- there are conflicting reports out there about this. >> the guy's on national television last night, his squad mates, platoon mates were not correct? >> i'm saying we don't know the fact pattern here. >> i think his squad mates have the best indication. >> i don't think that that's the case. >> joining me now three of bergdahl's former platoon mates, cody full josh cornielsen. thank you for being back with me. evan, let me start with you. you tweeted out in the beginning of this year things i want in 2015. you offered one word, closure. did you get it? >> yes.

i mean, i've taken a giant step towards that closure. for five years we've kind of lived with just the unknown. and then when they had the rose garden ceremony last year we took a small step forward, granted what wassing with said was completely untrue and we came forward to let people know what really happened. and after this last year and the investigation it's culminated into a very giant step forward. for me personally getting the closure i need. >> cody, i know the rose garden ceremony played a big part for you too in your decision to speak out. explain that. >> yeah. you know, if they would have brought him back, we got our american soldier back and they released a statement or a memo saying, hey, we got him back. there's some circumstances that are surrounding him. we're going to investigate them. that would have been great. we got him back he's going to suggest this. but instead they parade his parents out in a rose garden ceremony. and you have cabinet members come out and say served with honor and distinction basically

calling him a hero when they knew that wasn't true and the facts have been the same for five years. but yet you have soldiers that are missing limbs or paid the ultimate price over there and they doept get a rose garden ceremony. all they get is an autocad letter three or four months later. >> what do you think should happen to him josh? >> i think he should be prosecuted to the full extent allowed. if that's maximum life in prison, then that needs to happen. i don't think he needs to you know, get all the benefits, all the rewards that anybody else that honorably served would get. >> what about that? because the "new york times" had a piece today suggesting one of the questions here is whether the army will give him an honorable discharge talking about how if you don't get one it can hinder a veteran's job prospects and weigh on the entirety of how a service member looks back on his career. to the "new york times" you say what josh? >> i think that if bowe bergdahl after all this is finished and

he gets an honorable discharge, i think it's more than a slap in the face. i think it's an absolute spit in the face of every single service member whether it's marines united states army navy, coast guard, whatever it is i think that all of the people that have gotten out do have an honorable discharge and did their time and it was honorable, i think that if bowe bergdahl gets out with honorable discharge it's an absolute disgrace. it's an absolute slap in the face of everybody in the history of the united states military that has served honorably with respect to everybody around them that they're not going to leave their battle buddies in a time of need. >> evan i know you say you don't want a plea. you don't want to see him plead. why? >> i want it to go to a trial because i believe if he pleas we won't ever get to hear from him what happened. it's selfish of me but i want to hear it from him why he did what he did.

i want to know. and i know that everyone who is involved in the situation wants to know. it's something that we have lived with for so long. and i think for the american people they need to hear from him what he was thinking, what was going through his head. he needs to have the chance to, whether he wants to defend himself or wants to tell the truth. >> is there anything he could say that would soften you on the matter? >> there's nothing he could say that would soften me on the matter. i'm not out to get him. i don't have any vendetta against him. i believe that he did something wrong and he needs to answer for what he did. that's for the military justice side. they'll work on that. but other than that i just -- i kind of want to know why. and i think everyone wants to know why. >> that's what we were asking last year when we met. you all wanted to know why. and you cody, said that clip we've play sod many times since then, i don't know how he felt about us but we would have died for him. i would have died for him, you said. and we're struggling to figure

out why he walked away. when you hear now the stories that he was tortured and what the enemy did to him and those who say he deserves some mercy because of it, what do you say? >> there's consequences for your actions. you know i feel bad and compassionate as a human being that that happened to another american. but at the same time if you wouldn't have deserted and turned your back on your fellow american comrades, then you wouldn't be in that predicament in the first place. i also don't think it's fair for him to get an honorable discharge, anything less than a dishonorable discharge and forfeit all his pay and rank and benefits. you have guys that go to afghanistan iraq multiple times that serve this country honorably. they don't desert. they do their job. they come home. and these guys are battling ptsd missing a limb have a purple heart they have a few drinks one night, make a mistake. they don't get honorable discharge. how is it fair to them that serve this country honorably and didn't desesht their fellow americans in combat to come

home, not get honorable discharge but he deserts. misconduct before the enemy. and then now he's supposed to get honorable discharge? >> it's just one of the possibilities raised by the "new york times." it's not likely according to the military experts we've spoken with. josh, i want to give you the last word. i know you say when you heard charges were being brought you felt relief. were you worried there would be pressure not to charge him? >> the truth has been out there the entire time. we've been telling everybody that wants to listen what the truth is, from shortly after bergdahl disappeared to the initial army investigation to when he was traded back last year. everybody that was around him knew what the truth was. it's just relief that the united states army did the right thing in charging bergdahl with desertion and misconduct in front of the army. >> cody, josh evan, thank you all for your service. and thank you for being back with us. >> thank you. >> thank you.

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experience. >> everything depends on what you do within scientology. >> they sell it all in the beginning as something quite logical. you take on a matrix of thought that is not your own. >> so strong that it sticks you like glue. >> were very suggestible. >> you just don't see it happening to you. you justify so much. >> there is no logical explanation other than faith. >> mike rinder is a former signtologist who spent years defending scientology. he's featured in the hbo documentary film "going clear." it will debut march 29th on hbo. mark, thank you very much for being here. and so it's interesting the prison of belief based on a book by a pulitzer prize winning author featured in the documentary as well shot by an

academy award winner. and already the church of scientology has come out swinging against you, which we'll get to in a moment. what does that mean the prison of belief? >> it means megyn, that scientology has means or way of getting people to believe that they have the answers to everything. that your very future depends upon your activities and commitment to scientology and remaining a dedicated and committed member of the church. and to stray from it is something that will result in very dire consequences. >> i watched the documentary. i apologize for calling you mark. i watched the documentary mike and it talks about how there is allegedly abuse against members who want to lead the church, there's blackmail, there's allegedly tapping of people's phones who try to speak out against scientology.

that some are put in a sort of prison called the hole where they're not free to leave monitoring by security guards. and an absolute commitment not to speak out against the religion, a commitment you say you were actually one of the enforcers of for years. >> yes, that's correct, megyn. i mean it's ugly. there is no question. and that's the reason why i and others are speaking out. because we feel that the abuses that are ongoing within the church of scientology need to have the light of day shone on them and be seen for what they really are. because there is a perception that the church tries to put forward that everything is all butterflies and unicorns with the church of scientology. and yet on the other hand there are a lot of things that happened that are very egregious violations of human rights.

and things that -- >> what would be illegal things that would be illegal as well. you're talking -- not you but the film talks about tom cruise who's the most famous and his marriage to nicole kidman suggesting that marriage was divided by the church because she was not a scientologist. at one point her phones were tapped. all of which the church has denied. did they engage in these tactics? >> absolutely, megyn. this is the patent and practice of the church in dealing with things and people that they feel are not in step with them or disagreement, or seeking to expose what's going on. i mean you've seen the reaction that the church -- i'm sure you were flooded with all sorts of information about every single person that ever speaks out about -- >> they're extreme religious.

we got threatened on a segment we did a few years ago. they love to threaten you if you say anything about them. moments before we came on the air this comes at 8:46, dear his kelly, i hear you may be doing a program with mike riender regarding the documentary. why are you going ahead with a self-admitted liar who is admitted he's paid $75 an hour -- he left the church in disgrace for severe malfeasance. these are falsehoods. >> and that's par for the course for scientology. in fact that sort of reaction and response is what proves much of what's shown in the film. look, megyn, they say that about every single person. alex gibny, an academy award winning has become a bigot --

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are running wild tonight about the army's plan for a multistate training exercise this summer called jade helm 15. well the military says it's just training soldiers for the realities of war critics say the army is preparing for modern day martial law. trace gallagher live in our west coast news room with the story. >> megyn some are calling it a texas take over. a bunch of green berets, navy s.e.a.l.s. and special ops are conducting real life training exercises across the southwest. the goal is to see if groups of these special forces can move around the civilian population without being noticed. you know, blend in so they can place themselves in strategic positions to handle different threat scenarios. the military says these are vital skills when it comes to an ever changing threat. how of the training exercise, it says texas will be simulated hostile territory. that hostile characterization didn't sit well with a far right

radio station that told readers he had access to a secret document that details federal takeover. liberals picked up on the plan and before you know it rallies were being held against the event. the so-called secret document was published several weeks ago in several newspapers letting the public know the training was in the works. still the pentagon and local law enforcement are trying to knock down the rumors trying to let everyone know that the feds have no plans to grab the lone star state. apparently this kind of stuff just doesn't play very well in texas. megyn. i knew instantly that this was...wow! it's crest hd. it's amazing. new crest hd gives you a 6x healthier mouth and 6x whiter teeth in just one week. it gets practically every detail. that's why it's called hd. try new crest pro-health hd.

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