eekend. happy easter, happy passover. "on the record" is next with andrea tantaros. alanna, we will see you. previously on "red eye." >> hello, everyone. i'm kennedy. >> ladies we have come a marginal way. >> please stop telling me those things in my ear. >> i didn't say that. >> it is like an entire's week of idiocy. >> i did say that. there is no need to say it again. >> if it makes people happy, why not? >> and now the thrilling conclusion. >> hello everyone. i'm gavin mcginnis. she has represented more bad men than the iranian olympic team. i am here with criminal defense attorney remi spencer. and she has got more faces than a magician's deck of cards. it is joanne nosuchunsky. and he represented michigan's district 11.

the straight to dvd sequel of district 9. congressman thaddeus mccodder. his latest book is called liberty risen, the triumph of republicans. and he is funny and old-fashioned like masogany. his pod cast, is now available on itunes. you can also get it atom shillue.com. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> we start with the most controversial pizzeria on the planet. memory's pizza in indiana has closed indefinitely after it became ground zero of the culture wars. one of the owners described the response to the stance on gay marriage -- >> just intolerable. the anger and the bitterness is just -- it is -- i don't

understand it. they are good people. there are just things i don't agree with. >> donations are pouring in as of friday more than $500,000 have been raised through a fund set up that is more like 850,000. the news media are covering people who value religious protections. >> jennifer williams is an associate at this flower shop. she doesn't believe refusing service to a gay couple is discrimination. >> the bible talks a lot about love and loving your fellow man. >> it doesn't mean i love them any less because i don't. i pray for them. >> if you don't serve them it is not like you -- >> it is not like i don't hate them. i don't hate them. >> you are not loving them if you don't want to serve them. >> you can still love someone

even though you don't serve them. >> that's cnn reporter gary tuckman in georgia. let's watch his patronize another flower shop employee. >> the 10 commandments said you can't commit adultery and it says you need to honor your father and mother. if someone committed adultery would you serve them? >> yes. >> well why would you serve them and not serve someone who is gay? >> it is just a different kind of sin to me and i just don't believe in it. >> and these flower shops are happy to do business with you but not so much if you tell them you are gay. >> that's not what they said, you ass. that guy is talk the exact same way i talk to a 3-year-old that punched someone. he has that sort of -- we know that's wrong don't we? remi is it illegal to refuse someone's service based on their sexual proclivaty?

>> well, these are private companies. they can refuse service to anyone for any reason, but they can't discriminate. that's a big distinction. you can't discriminate against someone based on their gender or based on their race and based on their sexual orientation. i think what we saw in that clip was upsetting on so many levels. it was as you described patronizing and embarrassing and that host was -- it was salacious. >> shunning. they are happy to serve you unless you are gay. >> there was no discussion about the law or about laws or government which is all of this is about. he was having a moral religious argument of people who think differently than him. >> he was so cocky that he took this ridiculous assumption that a gay person walks into the florist shop and said we don't need your

kind around here, goodbye. and then he starts trying to teach them in baby talk why that's wrong. meanwhile he was wrong about the assumption in the first place. >> i know. i would much rather have the gay borat -- what was that character? bruno go in with a speed owe and act gay and try to get flowers for his wedding. at least that would have been funny. >> let's get to the brass tax here. are they refusing service to gays? >> i think they are refusing service to gays on the premise they are engaging in an activity they spiritually do not agree with which is trying to be married. as a business person though you should really want the money. this is not a matter of life or death. this is a choice between two adult individuals to engage and get married. no one will die if they got married. if you are a business i would think you would a, take the bread. b, if i was an irish catholic

i would not frequent the ku klux klan's kitchen. i wouldn't want to give them my money. if i was gay even though you are an attractive man -- >> are you mad at me for saying thaddeus. the teleprompter is zipping by. >> i know you are a canadian and can't speak. >> we have to be gay to keep warm. we call them eskimo kisses. >> ironically throughout the whole thing and i agree on the media being condescending to these people is it is about russo's concept of the civil religion versus the revealed religions where you can believe whatever you want. the left will tell you this. underneath you can believe everything else. this is an example of why these debates are contentious. it is not the gay issue or the gay marriage issue but it is a symptom of the over arching struggle between an imposed

religion being under it. >> that sounds like a lot of fancy talk. i don't know what is going on. >> i think it is the upper classes poking red necks and then saying listen you stupid hillbillies, you are supposed to be christian and helping people. you are not helping people and you are stupid. >> that reporter is what you just described. i don't think we can generalize all of the media. >> they are not refusing gays. they are saying i don't want to be part of the particular ceremony. gay birthday cakes? let's go bananas. >> bough -- -- bananas? >> it is gay for bananas. >> you said it and not me. it is difficult for some to reconcile the concept of freedom of religion which is one of the basic tenants this country is premised on with the differing opinions of someone else. if you do own a flower shop

and you don't agree with the homosexuality based on your religious principals, that's your right. >> it is that one ceremony. they never said we are not going to cater a gay party. >> they don't want to do marriages. they don't believe it fits in the bible. >> one thing. >> but i think the story is bigger than just marriage. it has to do with what those women were saying, what she believed to be a bigger sin or a different sin. there are more shades to it than just the marriage, i believe. >> they are going to do fine. there is always someone to provide a service. every gay wedding needs flowers. >> however this reporter in georgia went to five different flour shops and he said they all had the same opinion. it depends on where you go. >> they all need pizza though. >> they can say i would like a cake please. >> i would like a cake. >> no that was too high.

>> how many gays are going to have pizza at their wedding? >> very good point. >> i think if you had a pie chart a pizza pie chart of the demand of pizza at gay weddings it would be that pizza. it would be so close they would become parallel. you are right though. legally they don't have to do. it but why not? one of the ways these people can do it they do a gay wedding cake and it is to go -- >> nobody does it by hands anymore. come on, gavin. >> they are with the machine and then when they put the grooves on they go -- >> here is your cake.

and then just like have a shower. >> i would with the reporter though swrie. some people may find that a little offensive. >> that's one way to do it. i am not advocating the attitude. i would be like this. >> with the reporter one of the things it does graze is the secular spin he puts on the 10 commandments. that's on him. not all reporters are like that. >> there is a huge over tone here of this simplification. they make an assumption based on a hypothetical gays might get refused and then they take a wrong assumption and get super arrogant about it. we have schwarzenegger nascar and everyone saying they are disgusted. no one has looked up the law. no one has particular examples. >> you never reported he is too dumb to understand what he is trying to dumb down for

you. >> i just think it is worth talking about this a lot. gay marriage in particular -- not just in indiana, but -- whoa. >> that was so weird. did you just feel a cold breeze? >> i actually did too when you did that. i felt a draft. >> it got freezing cold in here. that was weird. >> that was a very weird occurrence. >> we will be eight years of disarray of dissent. >> oh my god. i think it's -- >> you have an opportunity here to unite a country after six and will be eight years of disarray, of dissent and people focusing on their differences and not their similarities. this is a time for a political leader to come in and focus on the stuff that is beyond our

borders and the stuff that is a threat to us as americans. 2016 is about foreign policy and return of american exceptionalism. the left loves this battle. >> we need to stop talking about indiana like now. meanwhile, in the real world, 150 christians were killed in kenya. on thursday islamic extremists stalked the campus at garissa college separating christian students from muslim students and killing the christians. all while shouting "god is great" presumably not in that language. survivors say the terrorists appear to have planned extensively and even targeting a site where christians had gone to pray. the somali terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attack. tom, the vatican says 100,000 christians are killed globally every year which i looked up

and is not right and so i don't know why i am quoting that fact. the numbers are huge. they are something like 10,000 christians killed every year across the world. we are talking about hypothetical scenarios at a pizza joint. >> why are you bothering to chat with the vatican. >> let me rephrase that. people say that the vatican said 100,000. and they obviously have miss interpreted the vatican. >> they may be including people in political situations. the vatican says -- if they say that, yet they say -- well, of course we don't want a holy war. why not? i am ready. if we will have a holy war let's have it now. >> jihad has been declared on us. >> so let's get in there. >> you two clowns better work it out before you go to war. let me know how the first one goes and then maybe i will jump in. >> what is your plan?

you can come out and visit detroit and we will be most hospitable to our enemies. >> that brings me to my question. how will he handle the muslim threat across the world? what should he do? >> as a recovering poll tegs i i -- i care what joanne thinks. >> i am confused about your book. you seem you are a bordering neocon kind of guy who wants to go abroad and kill. but your book has the word libertarian in it. are you a nativist or a go get them ist? >> we just discussed the reporters dumbing thrings down. should we be in the middle east fighting? >> we are in the middle east fighting. the first thing that has to be done and the administration has not done and i will let joanne correct me immediately but they have yet to morally

define then knee. -- enemy. even after work wght soviets in world war ii in victory he understand come communism. a liberal of the left understood the danger and set up the containment theory and rolled them back and understood the moral imperative for free people to do so. th administration is asking like the free people who are trying to defend themselves rtz problems as if -- did somebody in kenya say something bad to upset the people who slaughtered them? is it the persian moles who want to kill you and your family for being nern -- being american and free? we have got to continue to reinforce the messages ronald reagan said we will win and you are lose and we will win because we are right. >> i am not -- so we should be over there or not? >> we are over there.

>> the word should -- >> it is not the boots on the ground. every unique society. every culture in the world including the united states and you can jukes tau pose with our breath wren in end yaw -- -- >> can we not go back to india? you are still a politician after all of these years. >> we are over there. it can be good if what you are doing is helping them build their own version of liberty as they defend themselves against these enemies of freedom and every group we talked about having problems in america they will kill you all. we should be, but it is not bush green zone or reconstruction. it is people who wish to breathe free as we did smartly in areas to subvert the existing regimes. before i was a recovering politician. i said the

administration was disgraceful in the fact they did not support the green revolution who wanted to be free. what is he doing now? now he is cutting deals. supporting the move of the freely people as they shape it themselves is the way the united states should do it. you can't bo to freedom. >> i think these two clowns are with thaddeus. >> after you hit the gym. >> are we at war with islam? >> i think we have been at war with islam since 9/11. it has been an on going terrible, dangerous time. america has felt this country should be or is at war with terrorists. look i was in kenya a few years ago. >> what the hell were you doing there? who goes to kenya? >> animal lovers who enjoy the peace and the beauty of the safari and the country.

>> can't you look at it on instagram? >> heart wrenching. >> you went to africa. >> you know how they slaughtered these people? it has been reported that they asked the individuals on the college campus to recite islamic prayers. the people who couldn't recite the prayers were the ones who were killed. they killed 150 people in the last 24 hours? >> that reminds me of a canadian academic who said we should memorize the koran so that in situations like that we would have done our homework. >> it is upsetting to talk about and i would much rather play the vehicle tim card at home. >> why don't you go to the middle east and drive a car. you can be a victim in 10 minutes. >> that's what is wrong with our country. it makes us look as -- assanine when we do things like this. people are dying

for their beliefs in other countries. >> i am not following. are you saying it is good martyrs die during jihad? >> i was trying to make a joke and it didn't land. >> it is not good joke time. >> everything is we are playing the victims. we are not victims. there is no reason for us to be doing that. we aren't actually being threatened like these people in other countries. for a lot of millenials, and it is the social issues people will be voting on. really it should be national security. that is a huge issue and i will want a candidate who says it is important and will make like he was saying clear cut decisions on what needs to be done. >> are you not allowed to holdup a hash tag while people are being beaten for their religion when it is the same as yours. >> we are one day closer but first, who makes more money, pared men or single men it is

another absolutely necessary study next.

work harder, are smarter and make more money than single dudes. on average married men in their late 20s make almost $16,000 more than their unuh matched amigos. married men in their mid40s make $19,000 more. this is every day. >> wow. >> researchers found they spend less time with pals and more time with family. they go to bars less and church more. hypothetical scenario here. you are being courted by two men. one is a 6 who has $7 million

in the bank. the other is a 9 who has $40,000 in the bank. they are both equally appealing so who do you choose this. >> who ever has the better prenup. right, remi? you're a lawyer. if you are in a happy marriage you can do all of these things and it can be hundredful. >> that's not what i asked. >> i gave you my answer. >> so the ugly guy? >> if he can make me laugh. >> all comedians i know are ladelists. >> ladelists 1234*. >> if it is a healthy marriage, yes. if you are headed to divorce it will take all of your money and you will have a lot of personal issues that could upset your work flow. and it depends on what you want to accomplish in life. every situation is different.

for my career track i think a man would slow me down. >> that's the truth. >> i am not looking to settle because i don't want to settle. >> remi, do you agree with this? >> most of it, absolutely. i think the study gets it wrong. married men may work harder and they may earn more, but it doesn't mean they have more in the bank. most of my friends who are matter in their 40 with wives and kids they say their money disappears. they don't know where all of their money goes. most single men in their 40s who have jobs have a lot of money in the bank because they don't have to spend it on their wives and children. >> i -- so you flip studies you don't like. >> i think -- the point of the study if i understood it correctly when you are married and -- >> you have more money than single guys.

>> you have more motivation to get out of your parents house and take pride and you have to take care of a family. it is a good point. >> i am getting a weird vibe between you two. the romance has been draining. don't you ever read dh lawrence? you sound unreman particular and cold and cynical. what about love, ladies? >> i have lots of love in my life. i don't know where you get that. >> you both sound like you prefer a career to romance. >> why would you have to choose? >> so you can have it all? >> romance was not first. i am marying the -- marrying the rich ugly dude. >> you have to -- the ugly six who happen to be rich can be very romantic. >> do we need a man at all?

>> it is so i can go home. there is somebody named rita michelle mccodder who will tell you this story is complete bull [bleep]. >> what about you tom? you were a comedian playing bongos were you not? >> and you cooperate get laid playing the bongos? >> i look back and all of those guys are ridiculous. they think they have had greatest life. i got chicks and video games and they get married and they say that was a dumb 20 years i just spent. >> do you hang out with guys who don't have kids. >> sometimes. >> it is kind of embarrassing sometimes. >> you know, now i tell them the truth which is their life is useless. >> you are overcome pen say thing and not thrilled with the situation.

>> we have done both. we have had the man cave. >> i am happy doing exactly that. i know they are miserable. did that loser -- >> this is like the male equivalent -- this is the male equivalent of married women who stay at home and raise their children and say to career women who don't have children you don't know how hard it is. you don't know how fulfilling it is to do the job i do. >> that is not a positive. >> that is not a nice thing. i would never look to a career person and say you don't know how hard my job is. you don't know what i do. you don't get that entitlement for any reason.

>> i think we can all agree that being a housewife is far more fulfilling than having a career. >> robert deniro supports hillary clinton. first, a word from our sponsor. >> tonight's sponsor is the gross of greg gutfeld. he not only haunts our studios but he pays for ad time. thanks ghost of greg gutfeld.

let the endorsement circus begin. "meet the fockers" star robert deniro is all over the hillary ban wagon. they asked if he still supports hillary clinton as he did in 2006. the --" the little fockers" star responded. i think she has paid her dues. she's earned the right to be president. i am dinero baby. and she is a woman and she is very important. what do i mean right mow? wee. >> the way you do dinero is you have to protect it. she has been a huge supporter since she was a radicals buff. >> go back to the linski

days. >> why do you love her so much? >> at the time i first got involved with her i just wanted to get married and settle down. >> i would make more money and stop blogging out of my parents' basement and getting stoned and trying to break into dad's sock door. we happy to destroy the country in the process. it is a small price to pay for me being happy with her. >> so you are only supporting her because of the initial -- >> well that and because i hear dinero is casting a new movie. >> i assume you will be loading for her because she is a woman? >> that is wrong. i don't know why you drew that conclusion. >> good to know. >> i will keep a note of it. >> if you do, don't call us massageness stick. >> we are massage nighses who

say massage nighs things. >> it is good to be aware of yourself. that's an important part. >> i think it is interesting that any reporter gives a darn what he thinks about politics. i cannot fathom why we care -- >> he may have an electric for rail -- an electoral sway. >> i am a big deniro fan. i think he is exceptional actor but i never have seen an interview where he could string a complete sennence it together. i don't care about his political views. i just want to see a good movie. if he endorses hillary clinton it has no impact on my personal preference for a candidate and it shouldn't have one on anybody. >> did you like the little [bleep] part where he was playing with the kid? in the movie "little

fockers." >> i have an aversion to children. >> you haven't seen the film? >> i have seen both of them. >> it was just on. i couldn't find the remote. >> let me ask you a more serious question. i want to say a bad word and get it on tv. my estimates say 89% of women who vote for hillary will be doing it because she is a woman. of that percentage what percent will be able to name anything she has done? and what is the scare root of that percent? >> 16? and 4. >> you just chose 16 because it is an easy square root. >> that's right. i love that robert dinero said i think she has paid her dues. >> what dues? >> by that idea, glen close should win because she has been nominated so many times. same with leonardo dicaprio.

it doesn't matter who else is nominated. they paid their dues and it is about time. >> i don't like his logic. >> half of the guys at the gym want to vote for her because bill clinton did a good job in his mind. >> tom, why are these rich and famous people like david letter man -- david letterman so dumb? >> we think these special people -- they are talented. talented people are often times not that bright. they are good at one thing. >> wait how can you call them idiots if they have a different opinion. >> they have the same opinion. cher, all of them, deck cheney is getting rich off of a war.

they talk like teenagers. >> it is not that they have opposing and political things, but often times these famous people when they start talking politics you realize they are not that bright. that's because they are focused on what they do. >> i think fame puts them in a bubble where they can't interact with people and they can go off on the crazy tangents. >> the world is mean. we should all be nice. >> they are not thinking of those things. neither are the olympic swimmers. you know you meet an olympic athlete and you talk to them and you know where a subway is. >> how many olympic swimmers do you meet? >> everywhere. i can see one out the window right now. >> i agree with remi in a sense. given what i used to do and now that i am recovering from it, when actors or actresses or a musician, anyone in the creative field injects themselves into poll i can its it is their right to do it.

i am okay. >> i am not frying to take it away. >> if deniro wants to support her to me they are citizens and we as a citizenry have admired their art and put them in a position where we can factor in does being able to do this translate with knowing their opinion of which direction the country should take matters. you may think their opinion is stupid. it is largely because you don't agree. they think the same thing about you. >> they don't think about it. >> and it is not because oh you are not for hillary. when celebrities tweet things about the world and about politics you look and think that is an extremely not bright thing there. >> i am in shock. >> i remember thinking that when i was 18. it is time to take a break. a climate change skeptic gets kicked off twitter.

twitter is no place for quarreling. for the second time in two weeks twitter success spended the account of a global warming skeptic. tom nelson who runs a website was engaged in an on-line feud, my favorite kind, with

nassau climate scientist. he created a graph of the earth's temperatures over time. schmidt replied "that graph is crap. as i frequently pointed out. not even you can take it seriously." his use of the word was fine. he said is this crap too? he deleted the post. twitter promptly success spended his -- success spended his account. in other feuds. you know what i just realized? a rooster is a chicken. you don't really look at that. and a thumb is a finger. you have five of them.

>> let's cut the crap. i am canadian and that's a southern name. we are 3,000 miles away. >> from detroit. >> exactly. >> let's cut the crap. is the earth's climate changing and would it be changing in that exact same way if human beings did not exist? >> it is always changing. you have weather. what you have we will use the state of michigan. if not for the failure to adapt to climate change it wouldn't have been created. the earth has rhythms and cycles. to think we can change it by an act of will or appetite on the part of the government to take something and give to somebody else is nothing he thought about 234 his governmental powers. so the pollution levels are

not doing anything drays -- drastic? >> the correlations of the natural resources are not what they are talking about. this is about climate change. it started off as a young person scared to death we were going to have a global ice age. eventually they smartened up and they eventually do call it climate change because wafer happens can be attributed to it. we will tell you they are all citizens of the earth. what will happen is they will use it to spread the myth while everybody owns earth. >> just save the earth. i believe in steward ship conservation. i am a hunter, a little less gathering although i am married. >> let's motor through here.

what about you, remi? would you say that you would think that global warming is something that we should be censoring people about? >> let's say global warming is an issue that everybody gets to talk about if they are a scientist with advanced degrees they have some real knowledge about. it is one of the topics that the vast majority of people who comment on it don't know what they are talking about. that's number one. number two is this twitter story was upsetting to me. i didn't believe it at first. it was so shocking or egregious that twitter 2 block somebody's account for expressing a view you would think is relatively benign just contrary to the person he was arguing with. i was upset that there was such sensorship when we know it is so much worse. >> the only thing they have in common is that joanne won't sleep with either of them.

am i right? >> you're a good host. >> what do you mean i'm a good host. >> you know the way you did the question. you are a good host. >> i don't know what you mean. >> you know, the way you ask the questions, it is good. you're good. >> good how? i don't understand what you are talking about. >> gavin, you have it all wrong. >> he is a big boy and he can handle themselves. what is good about my hosting. >> it is the way you ask the questions it is good. >> what like a game show host? i am good at requesting questions. good how? what the [bleep] do you mean i am a good host, tom.

>> coming up the healing power of boobs. and do you have videos of animals? you can send them to us.

you can check out my pod cast free speech. audio is on itunes and you can check the daily motion for the video version. a new "red eye" returns on monday. guests include brooke goldstein katherine lou dobbs and tom codder. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. >> this was the lead story on special report tonight. at a niki minaj concert in belfast a young boy was invited on stage and was overcome with emotion. take a look. >> i have been dreaming of this moment for so long.

>> what is your name? >> my name is donny. >> why doesn't he have an irish accent? it seemed like a scam. >> it was the same level of emotion and the same tears. you don't snap out of it when the boob hits the face. >> he was overcome with joy and then more joy when he had the boobs. >> if your wife was in a car accident god forbid, and so was niki minaj, and the doctor came out and he said unfortunately the only way we could see -- we could save one of them is to save your wife's brain and put it in niki minaj's head. would you cry as much as that boy or would you say we have to deal with this. let's plow through. >> let's go forward with our lives. >> take two and call me in the

morning. >> what is your name? >> nicky posted the video on instagram writing, get your life from the little boy in this video. look how he stopped crying when he laid his head on them thangs. they have real power beaming out of them that can cure the sick. free the nipple is a big campaign. should we de sexualize breasts? they hold a lot of power. >> women do. it is also the power of believing more so than the actual breast tissue or the nickel itself. dash -- dash the pip pell of itself. >> we called it cute, but if this were a man it would be sexual assault. i'm just saying. equal opportunity here. >> you would have this hairy chested dude wearing a woman's

bra and grabbing children and thrusting them into the chest. i don't know what that crime is. >> i can tell you what that is. that is criminal, sexual conduct. in most states a 40 degree offense. >> could he have charged her if he said i didn't want to touch them. i enjoy the music. >> the police could have charged her. it seemed like he was enjoying it and i think it was pretty much a hoax. it was a staged event so she could issue the press statement about the power of her boosom. >> you defended nicky massage in the past and said quotes like my shoe games and not cash shoes is one of the great 21st century keith. >> would people say she is talking about about queens being valid? sorry we are out of time. a special thanks to remi

spencer and joanne joanne nosuchunsky. tom shillue. i am gavin mcginnis and we will see you next time.