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jon: we are off to work on our second hour of "happening now." we'll see you in an hour. >> a news conference has begun on ways being called a journalistic failure that forced "rolling stone" to retract a story bean alleged gang rape at the university of virginia. this is "outnumbered." also with us is dab and geoghan mcdowell. and you are outnumbered fox
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brown. we are going to go to this press conference as it's break. he's former school of sheila's in our investigating program. she did a ton of work on this. his contributions were indispensable. a few words about what we set out to do. this report is have much intended as a piece of journalism about a failure of journalism. our first objective was to lay out what happened at "rolling stone." how it happened. and why it happened. and although we did concentrate our efforts on the details of "rolling stone"'s reporting and editing, we also have the freedom to investigate any
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aspect of the story we thought was germane and in the public interests. in the end the final report had at least in our minds several intended purposes. one was to illuminate the key reasons why "rolling stone's" reporting, why the failure was avoidable and to draw lessons from that. another reason was to assess independently -- another purpose was to assess independently some of the subjects "rolling stone" covered beyond jackie's narrative, particularly the time line of how uva handled a jackie's information and then the report addressed "rolling stone's" editorial policies and it tries to revaluate how
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journalists define best practices when we are reporting about rape case on campus or anywhere else. with that, sheila is going to call on folks who wants to ask questions. we ask you to please wait for the wireless microphone and identify yourselves when you speak because some folks have live feeds going and they need the microphone to pick them up. >> i would like to thank the columbia journalism review. please keep your questions short. if you do that we promise to keep our answers short. yes, please identify yourself and wait for the microphone. >> juliana golden with cbs news. i'm wondering if over the course of your investigation you gave any thought or questioned the idea of keeping jackie
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anonymous. >> well, she was anonymous in the report. it was never our intention to make her identity public. we knew who she was and i believe her name has been out there. but there was no reason for to us make known her true identity. >> just as a follow-up. one of the make takeaways from the report is ultimately this was all sourced to the account of a single individual. >> we found as well this failure was not the subject's other source's fault as matter of journalism. it was the product of failed methodology. we didn't feel that her role in the story should be the subject in a report seek accountability for a of journalism.
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>> your name. >> that is steve coll addressing a crowd of reporters from columbia journalism school calling this not just a failure of journalism but saying rolling stone failed on every single level. if you want watching the news. "rolling stone" formally retracted its story late last night. they originally asked columbia journalism school to conduct this report. this report said at every level there was a failure of journalistic standards. you just heard the dean say it failed in methodology. if you read deeper in the report it points to the report more has not been fired as well as her editor who said she'll keep her job and everyone else will too. senator scott brown what do you
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think? >> absolutely not. journalists play an important role in holding public officials accountable and they have an obligation to get the facts right and if they are not right they find out what is right. to put something out there like what has done has not only damaged the university of virginia but the fraternity system as a whole. the individuals associated with the university. no one is going to be held accountable. nobody is going to be fired. i'm not going to say it's typical by the is for magazines like that and ones with a more liberal flair. >> doesn't this ultimately hurt victims of sexual sea muse and assault? this has become such a controversy not just for rolling stone but as the senator points out the fraternity, they are calling this the rape school and at rape fraternity. doesn't this ultimately also hurt women and discourage them
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from coming forward? the exact women we are trying protect? >> absolutely. one of the most telling things that came out of this report was it said no one even those emploird as fact check -- that no one even those employed as fact fact checkers. they told columbia these decision% made by editors above my pay grade. i think that speaks to the group thing in organizations when they get a narrative that fits with the narrative they are looking to tell. >> she wanted the best rape she could find to fit the narrative she could come up with. that it was a reckless university and rest reckless fraternity than was a gang rape and she found her reporting are adjudicated cases that would have backed up what she was trying to move at the university
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but she chose to stick with this jackie story bates was more shocking. >> it was up to her editors to check her. here at fox i would say we are reward for having an opposite point of view. you make the discussion more interesting. >> when i was writing for the ""new york daily news"" if i didn't have enough facts my editors would push back and that didn't happen here. the excuse "rolling stone" is giving is jackie was a fabulous storyteller. as if to say we are idiots, we got snowed. she was so good at lying or embellishing that's why we believed her. isn't that giving up on her job? >> anybody can tell a story. i can go to any newspaper and make up anything i want.
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they are not going to fact check it, you have a journalism school telling them how to do their jobs. it was a piece of journalism telling about a failure of journalism. did none of these folks go to journalism school? you can't just take an anonymous source ... >> they tarnished an entire university and fraternity. >> the first half of my career i was a print reporter. i wrote a lot of salacious story. this is a one-source story. how did you know? did you witness it? i went to school for spanish literature but if i'm going to write a story about something i have to ask hard questions. they didn't interview any of the tonight friend she had.
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they felt the audience woulder in hold them accountable? >> what is the accountability. there are questions whether or not the from certain should sue. sue "rolling stone" magazine after what they did. >> "rolling stone" should i we messed up and we are going to fire people. or the sabrina erdely is gone. they are not even doing that. >> i think the lawsuits will take care of themselves. but the fact that nobody has been demoted put on administrative leave fired i think really says it all. to said what you were saying jedediah they had a great story and ebb got caught up in the moment and nobody what they ared to check. that's the problem with some of the more liberal media groups is
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they have an agenda they want to push forward. as a result that affirmative obligation to do it right and factually correct go by the wayside and peoples lives are hurt forever. >> you wonder is the damage already done? to you melissa. where are the women's groups that ran with this story and went after uva and went after this fraternity? i'm curious where are they today? they are very silent. >> how about the president? >> you haven't heard anyone saying they stood by this story in the first place. they should have fact checked it. all you had to do was read it and see they weren't quoting other people. they haven't talked to other people in the story. this just unfortunately calls into question the credibility of the next person who comes forward. and that person is probably telling the truth.
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>> let's hope the victims still come forward with their stories. they have to be told accurately. that's the biggest theme to come out of this. girls who may want to come forward now or who are victims. not just because of "rolling stone" magazine and failure at all levels. the women's group who pushed this story out there hurt the victims of sexual abuse. >> this can cause an inordinate amount of damage as you were saying. >> i will not be buying "rolling stone" magazine unless we are filing it in the fiction section of barnes and noble. netanyahu blasting preet limb nary -- preliminary deal with iran. among a rash of home grown
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terror arrests. ways being done to stop them and is it enough? catch more from the couch on the web. joins for "outnumbered" overtime. log on to foxnews.com. we'll see you there.
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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." president obama trying to sell the recent framework deal of the nuclear program. the president calling the deal a once in a lifetime opportunities. but israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu not buying it saying over the weekend the deal is down right dangerous. >> this is a deal that leaves wrawn the capacity to produce the material for many, many nuclear bombs. iran will have billions of dollars flown into its coffers to pump up its military and nuclear machine. >> dianne feinstein slamming the
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prime minister's public criticism of the deal. >> i wish that he would contain himself because he has put out no real alternative in his speech the congress, no real alternative. since then, no real alternative. >> on top of that there is a dramatic difference. in sails great piece in the post over the weekend who points out the farsi version the agreement was dramatically different of what:00 came out sphcht white house. the american statement says the iranians agreed knot not to use advanced centrifuges but the farsi interpretation says they will continuer to 10 years. >> this was one of the things we an is paid the would happen. who is going verify the actual
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deal. the iranians didn't wants it written down. they can come out and change whatever agreement to the framework they said they had. i want to address dianne feinstein saying netanyahu needs to contain himself. to me that's demeaning. he's fighting for the existence of his country. he doesn't need to contain himself. vladimir putin needs to contain himself. i know that feinstein says he's not offering knot iter alternatives but netanyahu doesn't have a seat at the table. isn't that a little bizarre. he's fighting for the existence for his country and he doesn't have a seat at the table? are he they willing toy -- are they willing to give him one. >> she should spends less time reprimanding the prime minister and more time holding iran's feet to the fire. there is a complete lack of
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trust from between the members of congress i have spoken with and the iranian sleeshedship. is the ayatollah going to bless this? there is nobody in this world right now who has more credibility and understanding about the threat to israel and that region and potentially the world as iran has the potential to export terrorism around the region. >> you talk about how iran feels about us. if iran was going to do a deal with the great say satan? >> it's not as if in all these conversations i'm leaving all my rifles at the door. we'll walk into these negotiations and everybody knows we have the most fire power. we are not reling wishing our capacity to defend ourselves or our allies.
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in that spacious situation why wouldn't we test it? >> what deal has he read? he must be living in outer space. none of the facilities were shut down. netanyahu is right. the whole nuclear infrastructure is kept intact. i think the iranians are reading the same deal i read and i think he's reading something else that this isn't going to poles a greater threat and it won't be a threat to israel. >> their approach is any deal always good deal. >> when deal first came throwlt with two things that looked good. they said they would get inspections right away and they would only lift the sanctions after they did the inspections. when you look at the farsi version they say the sanctions are going to be lifted immediately. >> it has to go through congress. the senate needs to play a role. the fact that the president is
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in a different fleant this regard. remember he's drawing another red fine the sand. >> friday when i was privileged to sit in for gretta, i asked could they still build a bomb under this framework and he said absolutely. this is so different from 2012 where the president said. they caused on every single point. everything he backs down. >> we worry about where this leaves israel and the gulf nation nations and clearly the president is concerned about that. did saudi arabia go to pakistan to get a nuclear weapon? >> back growing concern. dozens of isis recruits are back in the u.s. what's being done to stop a lone wolf attack?
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i am back to myself dulcolax, designed for dependable relief >> welcome back to "outnumbered." closing arguments beginning in the boston marathon bombing trial. ifs suspect is convicted the jury will decide if he will face the death penalty. among the suspects arrested in the united states on terror charges, two women. and jeh johnson admitted 40 isis recruits returned home to the u.s. >> we have in fact kept close
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tabs on those who we believe have left and those who have come back. a number have been arrested or investigated. and we have systems in place to track these individuals. but you can't know everything. >> we were talking about this before and you talked about a bill attempted to push through. can you tell us what that aimed to do and what blocked it? >> senator lieberman and others co-sponsored. it was to take their passports away. they want to stay in another country and hang out with terrorists keep them there. why do we allow them back in the country? they are not coming back to build a house with a white picket fence. harry reid held is up last time. i am hopeful and heard they will bring it up again. >> what was the argument they were using to not vote in favor
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of this bill? >> they were out to give ted cruz or anyone a victory, putting petty partisan politics ahead of the safety our country. they are not surveilling them 24/7. there is a complete lack of trust with the justice department and dhs when it comes to keeping us safe and secure. the easy fix is to take away their passports. >> the fusion centers where they will try to join local law enforcement. do you think that unifying law enforcement and getting the public motivated to keep their eyes open has a chance to address this problem in a major way? >> one of the biggest complaints has been this idea that we have so many different groups within government work on this problem.
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one may have information they don't share with the other and this is where we see a lot of problems happen. i think this is one thing that could be a step in the right direction. and as to your point it's so much more cost effective. if you are looking from a government points of view, rather than you surveilling these folks. if you go to another country and fight against america you are not welcomed back. >> you asked what held it up. a lot of folks say the will be abused by this administration and they will single out people they don't like. the irs targeted conservative groups. these are people who have gone to another country. we have them on youtube saying we are coming back and we are going to kill you. we are not just willy nilly stripping passports. you have to make sure that in
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fact these are people that have been identified. they said they will come back and we know who they are and let many keep them there. >> you were a senator in massachusets. there was a major glitch in how we could have and preended those two brothers. they actually misspelled one of their names. you saw the boots on the ground and the security forces in massachusetts. how much do you trust the dhs and law enforcement that we can get this done? >> they just had a report that addressed that very issue. what they did right and what they did wrong. i have a lot of respect for the jobs that our men and women trying to keep us safe do. i do have concerns about what are the rules of engagement. what is their ability to do their job? and i get really concerned when you see the president
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interfering with them doing that job. >> by them, who do you mean? >> the department of justice the department of homeland security making sure they can take away a passport and not face a back slawsh because of political correctness. not allowing the republicans to have a victory on this important issue because that will help them in 2016. who cares? >> speak of republicans in 2016. republican or libertarian? republican senator rand paul is preparing to shake up the 2016 race for the white house unveiling this new political ad on youtube. >> it's time for a new way a new 70s ideas. gnaw leader, one you can trust. one who works for you and above all it's time for a new president. [cheers and applause]
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[crowd chanting president paul]. >> lots of enthusiasm laying out his ideas for what he plans to do if he makes it to the white house. when he first came to the sneat was pushing a non-interventionist strategy pushing to cut the pentagon's budget. but last year he pledged a $200 billion increase. up 2%. now there are questions about the kind of republican he will sound like when he's set to take the stage tomorrow night. will he stick to his libertarian roots or will he continue to court republicans? >> it's tough especially with the growth of isis and the question of what we should do overseas. lire tearians would traditionally say let's let them handle it. whereas you see more of the
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establishment republican wants to go put boots on the ground. i'm fascinated to hear how he will straddle this one. i think he wants to put sunlight between himself and his father. but my advice is to be the freedom loving strict constitutionalist. >> needs to hang on to the very vocal passionate supporters he had originally. that could help if he ever got the nomination and he had to face off. >> this is a particularly difficult time to have that points of view. because the number one thing for the american public right now is this threat from abroad. libertarians wants to stay on the sidelines. i consider myself a watered down libertarian. i'm for small government intervention. in almost every situation except
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in one like this where it is only us coming together behind a government that can protect you from another national -- >> think who he threatened the most? he threatens the democrats and independent. libertarians have sometimes more socially liberal point of view. there is nobody more threatening to democrats and liberals than a rand paul. >> he called out ronald reagan and george w. bush. >> he goes after everybody. i served with rand and i have a lot of respect for him. i think his weakness is his stance on foreign policy issues. you have seen what happens when we step back. it's filled by a void of criminal and terrorist elements. i think he bring in great energy.
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young people thrive, in new hampshire especially toward him. he needs to get the unhappy republicans and bring them forward while also going after the independent. >> i don't know if this foreign policy will be weak with the entire country. it may have a hard type getting him out of the primary. if you talk about our involvement with young people i think what he says will resonate. this is a guy who is very cautious about our involvement with other countries. a lot more americans are on his side than we realized. california may see some desperately needed rain this week but it comes as governor jerry brown continues to defend his executive order requiring most but not all people in businesses to conserve as much water as possible in the midst of this historic drought.
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>> working mothers are known for feeling guilty about not spending enough time with their children. but research shows working dad feel just guilty as moms. the study shows almost half of all dads feel they spend too little time with their kid compared to a quarter of working moms. half of working dad say it's difficult for them to balance work and family life. let's go to working dad on our panel. do you feel guilty when you are at work and not with your kids? >> not anymore. but there was nothing more important than spending time with my kid. making every practice and join them and be in the play with them.
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if they area in a moreback competition i'm there with hem holding the horse and picking up the poop. i can relate with he will to this. i had a conversation with one of my best friends this weekend. he's trying to strike a balance. a high-powered attorney with three kid at home and a beautiful wife. >> i feel guilty no matter where i am. if i'm at work i feel guilty i'm not with my kid. when i'm with my kid i feel guilty thinking i'm not with my job. do you think there has been a cultural shift where now it's on both parents to feel like they need to be on the ground playing with them? >> i do. >> i think the responsibilities in the house have changed. there was a time when women shared more responsibilities than they do now. the dad would go off to work and
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wouldn't see the kids for a number of hours. they are taking kids off to go to soccer games. there is a much more shared dynamic. now you have the dads coming forward and saying hold on a second. >> i hope that to change the perception of women and to change a young woman's own perception about her abilities it's critical for a dad to be in the house. my dad was building a shed outside the house when i was super little. that's something that will stake with you forever. >> this is the point about getting men to lean in now. more women are going into the workplace. they need help in the workplace. they are having to say can you help me out with the housework. cheryl sandberg is saying that's
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why men are feeling this guilt too because they are so involved with their kids' lives and now the moms not at home. so the mom is calling the dad saying i'm not at home either. >> it many the husband stepping up and saying. let me help. what can i do. it's absolutely a team effort. >> lawmakers in new york city propose extending voting rights to a million non-citizens. we'll talk about the growing fallout. photos are great... ...for capturing your world. and now they can transform it with the new angie's list app you can you can get projects done in a snap. take a photo of your project or just tell us what you need done... ...and angie's list will find a top-rated provider to do the job. start your project for free today. you're driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up
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jon: at the top of the next hour the obama administration beginning a big push on the deal with iran over its nuclear program. we are monitoring that and will bring you any news. kenya conducting airstrikes against the al-shabaab. and stocks up today despite that
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lackluster jobs report. sharply gasparino told us in our first hour that the markets like the news because it might mean an interests rate hike. >> could non-citizens get the right to vote in new york city. city would allow legal residents the right to vote in city elections and they wouldn't need to be a resident for very long. apparently the law would apply to any legal documented residents who lived in new york city for only 6 months. when i saw this story last night, senator brown i literally lost my minds. i thought my head was going blow off. i forwarded this to the producer and said we have to talks about this. this is absolutely outrageous.
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what's to stop politicians to stockpile residents? this is a disaster. > it's lapping already. there is abiewflts voter laws in many states. to think that new york city would allow millions tow to come into the city and influence their property rights and tax structure. questions that could change the fabfabric of new york city. how about focusing on voter fraud and people who have not earned the right to vote? >> if we go to england and we spentspend a couple weeks in london do it gives the right to vote for parliament members? >> the democrats look at this and say we'll just bolster their
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power. it won't change the baffle power. but i worry if it does pass in new york city, in what@ter areas do politicians then apply this. >> we used to do it in school board elections until 2002. aren't the teachers unions going to wants this really badly? if you are one of these green cardholders you are saying i am paying tax i want my kids to go to school in new york city. >> that could potentially happen. i want to bring the opposing argument. people say these people are paying taxes and bringing upped the no taxation without representation argument. saying because a loves these districts are highly made up of legal residents who are non-citizens that a lot of
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decisions are being made without them having a voice. >> you are talk about people who are permanent residents who have a card. their incentive to get through that final step. they are doing it right but they are not there yet. i know people who suffered through the entire process to become a citizen where you have to take the step and you take the pledge. you have to cross the finish line in order to vote. >> you are in the process. >> finish it. learn the constitution. get out there and make sure you are ready to vote and around full citizen. >> i think they will demand more services because they are saying look, we are getting our green card now we are getting the right to vote. we want healthcare, we wanted this, we want that. harris sits here. she commutes over from new jersey. i'm sure she pays tax on a coup of coffee. so should she now be a residents
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of new york? people from new jersey, canadians that pay taxes here. the argument seems ludicrous to me. >> i think your feeling are the feeling of everyone listening. it's an honor to be a united states citizen. if you don't follow through to take that final step, pay the extra whatever it is to do it, take the test, study hard, you have to play by the rules. i'm sorry. >> could the latest trend in destressing for adults be found in day school? we'll tell you about a daycare where classes involve finger painting and nap time.
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trips and music time and even nap time. the idea to give high- strung new yorkers a way to distress and connect with the inner child. they are 300 to 1000 per class. >> you are laughing and what do you think? >> nap time and coloring books. >> am i getting too old? how about taking that 300 or thousand and packing your family up and go so the country together. or go to a guy's night out and go to a movie. >> how about a spa? >> this looks ridiculous. i think it would be great to take social skills class. properly answer the phone and start a conversation with people that you haven't met before. that one would work.
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but this sounds creepy. are adult diapers are involved? is there a sexual component? >> you said it so i didn't have to. >> but that list of things on the screen is pretty great. snacks and naps. >> just come to my house on saturday. snacks and naps. >> and arts and crafts? >> i love to paint and draw. >> all of those things sound awesome and you love chicken fingers and everything that children eat too. >> all of the macand cheese. and all of the people saying, tell me you don't want to meet the people who do it. >> i would want to do it alone and not with strangers. >> i don't want to be on a mat with a dude with sweaty feet. >> it is decompression. >> and you know, what.
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it is weird. >> all right. guys. we are staying here for outnumbered over time. and click the overtime tab and we are back on tv tomorrow at noon eastern. "happening now" starts now. >> and white house briefing is under way and the president conducts a full- court press to sell the nuclear framework deal with iran. >> the energy secretary making the test saying that the u.s. and iran are on the same page. here is the latest the selling of the controversial deal. we are covering all of the news "happening now". >> we can't have business as usual. >> rand paul ready to throw his hat in the 2016 ring. >> but is a different kind of a republican the best candidate to win the white house? >>

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