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first the tea party face off. who will he be backing? i find out tomorrow morning. that will be starting at 11:00 a.m. eastern sharp. "the five" is next. hello everyone i'm greg gutfeld along with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams. it's dana perino, this is "the five." so what makes a great story? when the villain turns out to be good and then the good turns out to be bad. the "rolling stone" rape hoax is that story. the villains were originally the frat boys accused of rape and the hero was the writer who nailed them. now it is reversed. the magazine retracted the fake piece on this alleged gang rape, a piece that led to outrage marches, vandalism and a shocked
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media. >> a major american university tonight has a lot to answer for now claims of a particularly shocking sexual assault made public. >> an extraordinary move on one of america's most prestigious campuses, university of virginia shutting down fraternities as it investigates sexual assault claims. >> a very disturbing sexual assault allegation at one of america's most prominent colleges. >> shocking allegations of sexual assault on campus. they were exposed in a "rolling stone" article to suspend all activities. >> and it's the agenda-driven publisher in fault. it is like a perfect law and order episode that you will never see because it is true which is why no one will get punished. the story's failure does not require "rolling stone" to
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change their editorial systems. that is like a restaurant saying we are not changing our hygiene practices after every diner gets the runs. it's like me not changing the locks after someone photographs me sleeping. the magazine says they were tricked by the accuser but were tricked by their biases they wanted to believe. you heard the saying it is too good to be true. this story was too good to be fact checked. what of future victims. we used to hate hoaxes but now they raise awareness. even if it didn't happen there at uva it probably happened somewhere. for if it is credible then truth is irrelevant. the boy who cried wolf is the magazine who prints hoax. the owner is just an honest mistake. interesting fact. this fraternity claims they will pursue all available legal
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action. how is that possible if they are a collective group? no one can say they are falsely accused because "rolling stone" didn't use names. >> unless you are a specifically named individual how do you say you have been harmed? what are your damages? so that's what you have to prove in a case like this. however, perhaps the fraternity could go forward with the case because they were named. that is a recourse they could take. these cases are tough but it matters. it may be a case in some respects of first impressions for the courts to see how they can factor some kind of lawsuit remedy to address it. but this all stems from media negligence. in some ways media malfeasance. they knew better should have fact checked it it. they should be held to a higher standard. if there is a way to establish a precedence this would be the way to do it. >> this is the funny thing about this review. they are reviewing the fact checking process. how can you review something
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that didn't exist? there was one source that nobody talked to but one person. we don't know who the source is. they did not interview any of the people that were accused. why did it take so long? it's so obviously made up. >> it is just incredible to me the level of bad journalism that is on display here. it's just criminal. but as i understand the fact checker did speak to the lady who ran the rape crisis center on the campus. you know who first told me about this was brent hume a uva graduate. he was like in a fury about this. then the "washington post" got on to this asking people what about this and couldn't find anything. when a real reporter gets on the story it comes up empty. i think fraternities are public institutes. i'm not sure what the basis is
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for a lawsuit. >> i don't know that a fraternity into all the parties, the fights, the drugs, drinking that went on at the frat house. >> that's a cost benefit analysis. it's not whether or not they have legal recourse. >> if you are advising you say let's move on. >> you have skeletons in your closet. >> to your point by the way, what happened at penn state? they have pictures. things do happen. >> and that's a good point. "rolling stone" not firing anybody. i don't think even the reports suggest that they should. were they being soft? it is a leftist magazine. more job security than the federal government is working at "rolling stone." you can get fired at "rolling stone." we found out someone wrote a bad album review of a hooty and the
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blow fish album. they got fired. she also didn't apologize to the fraternity. i don't think she is actually sorry. i actually think if she had the opportunity she would do it again. she is still on the payroll at "rolling stone" and these guys are on probation. i hear she is working on a new story. brian williams helicopter was shot down in iraq. the problem is now "rolling stone" anytime anyone does anything they can't say this person has to be fired. they are totally handcuffed. you can't fire someone like this. she knows where the bodies are buried. she is like james carville with long hair. you need this person to make this system work. >> james carville with long
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hair. >> or any hair. kidding, james. >> he doesn't have hair. do you think she would have treated the story differently, the reporter if she had done one initial step? what if the people that were being accused were my brother or my father. she emphasized it would be fabulous. he called her fabulous. what if she thought this could be my brother in that fraternity? >> you are doing a lot more thinking than she ever did. one of the things i thought was interesting was that the initial note about what the story she wanted to write was that this was a fishing expedition. she writes in the pitch to her editors i want to write this story and i am going to go find and it happens somewhere. so basically she put the cart before the horse. she was filling up the cart with this stuff. and it overturned on a gravel
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road. so the thing also is she says she has a 20-year career in investigative journalism. at that point maybe if she wanted to write something like this she is such a good writer why didn't "rolling stone" label it as fiction? people probably still would have read the story and wouldn't have had the consequences that it ended up with. it was fiction. >> same impact on the rape on campus story which was gaining so much momentum based on -- >> probably wouldn't land nightly news but she could have made the point she sought out to make and not risk a lawsuit for the magazine. >> the story came out. a lot of people knew it was fishy. richard bradley who is a journalist was one of the first people to say something's up. and then the "washington post." a lot of these guys got greech
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for it. i think bradley got beat up. people saying hoy dare you do this. even the reporter expressed doubt about the story when she heard the victim. how did people continue to buy this when they knew at the start? >> i think if people were afraid to go against this claim because then you would be against women? wouldn't be taking crimes against women seriously or the idea of rape on campuses in america seriously. you don't want to be the one to be the nay sayer because then there is something wrong with you and doesn't fit the politically correct mode. that's a problem because you are going to lose out and will not have the benefit of good journalism or good ethics if you are not going to have people that question the stories and instead are part of the story. >> hold on a second. >> you didn't like that? >> "rolling stone" definitely egregious journalistic practice. i think historically women have
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had a problem with being ignored when it comes to sexual violence. we shouldn't down play that. >> that is not what i'm saying. i want to be clear that i am a sex crimes prosecutor and a champion against women putting people away that commit them. i take is very seriously. i am saying people are paying attention and then a little bit of reluctance to be the one to question. some of the greatest harm is done when false allegations and claims are made because blowback from that can be astonishing in terms of women wanting to come forward. >> that is part of the consequence of this story because now everybody is like up in arms. it was all a hoax. i just can't imagine what is going on with the woman who was the prime supposedly victim in this. she deceived her friends, as well, who were part of the story and the police department then gets involved. >> that raises a really good point. has anybody ever figured out
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what actually happened? whenever we do this story we have to always say we are not saying nothing happened. everybody who does this story has to say that. no one is actually found out what happened. >> the police use the same caveat that you laid out. as far as we can tell -- we have gone to the end of the investigative task. >> we haven't been able to find information to back it up. >> we are not saying that nothing happened. we can't find anything. that is where the journalistic malpractice comes in. wait a second. why didn't she talk to the cops? why didn't she talk to the guys. she said that the woman couldn't even spell the guy's name. she said she was going out with him. that is crazy. >> it is journalistic malpractice. we are holding rolling stone up to the huge high standard. "rolling stone" are like "the daily show" of print journalism. >> that is a compliment really. >> this is not a serious outfit.
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they are take down artists. they are in the business to take people down. they tried to take down o'reilly and bachmann. that is what they do. they say their editorial systems failed? i think they work. they don't want strict controls and don't like fact checking. i think this is how they operate. >> you left out the tsarnaev cover where they turned a terrorist into a teddy bear. >> this magazine got away with glorifying an islamic terrorist on trial by putting his glamour shot on the magazine and took no blowback except for on this show. >> i was very upset about that. do you think the writer didn't apologize to the fraternity to avoid being sued? >> yes. >> thank you for being my co-council. here all week. >> of course because it is an admission. don't want anything used against
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you. she said it. the right polite thing to do. if you are not into that and you don't want to be sued. >> i think they authorized columbia journalism review to do the review. they come back and say you guys screwed up royally. >> that's them trying to save face at this point. >> they are trying to save from a lawsuit. >> if they go bankrupt from a lawsuit is anybody going to notice? their circulation -- family circle has better circulation. >> i love that magazine. >> larry king has better circulation. >> i was going to say the golden girls. >> she will get a book deal. she will get a book deal. everybody gets a book deal no matter what. rolling stone does investigative reports on corporations and politicians. they should do an expose on
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"rolling stone." they should treat "rolling stone" the way they treated the fraternity. last month us weekly had to retract a story that claimed to be an exclusive interview with kendall jenner. that turned out to be fake. maybe it is time for him to rethink his journalistic scruples. coming up, president obama fights back against critics of his nuclear deal with iran. finally defines his foreign policy doctrine next on "the five."
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president obama has defined the doctrine that guides foreign policy decisions like making a risky deal with a country like iran. >> we are powerful enough to be able to test these propositions without putting ourselves at risk. and that's the thing that sometimes as i hear these debates going on people don't seem to understand. everybody knows that we have most fire power. and we're not relinquishing our capacity to defend ourselves or allies. in that situation why wouldn't we test it.
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you asked about an obama doctrine. the doctrine is we will engage but we preserve all our capabilities. >> in the interview with the "new york times" the president called for an agreement calling it a once in a lifetime opportunity even if iran can't be trusted to hold up its end of the deal. >> the nuclear deal that we have put together is not based on the idea that somehow the regime changes. it is a good deal even if iran doesn't change at all. even for somebody who believes as i suspect prime minister netanyahu believes, that there is no difference between the supreme leader and they are all adamantly anti-west and anti-israel and perineal liars and cheaters. even if you believed all that this still would be the right thing to do. >> kimberly, you are
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uncomfortable. >> it is nonsensical. >> you didn't like it? >> good comments for a learned educated man. they don't make sense to anyone unless you are a blind supporter of his. why would you make a deal if it wasn't a good one? just to say you did it? >> he does say in this interview that it is clear that iran will not get a nuclear weapon on his watch which is in the next 20 months. what about the concerns ten years from now? >> that is not his problem. he will be god knows where. his doctrine, what his doctrine is, legacy, i have two years left. he is like a vacation gambler and he has to fly home and he is throwing the last $500 out there and trying to win as much as he can. what he is counting on is iran because that is going to be part
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of his big take home. he has to be something that justifies an otherwise miserable i guess foreign policy. if you look at this agreement there are more disagreements since the agreement dealing with iran is like engaging a dis disheveled man on a bus. they say i want your money and then hit you. that confrontation you never win. >> never going to win it. >> benjamin netanyahu who has sort of sparred in the press with president obama up to now. he spoke on the sunday shows yesterday saying he is not convinced this is a good deal. >> i trust the president is doing what he thinks is good for the united states. i think that we can have a legitimate difference of opinion on this. i think iran is shown to be completely distropical stormustful. >> they are developing missiles meant to carry nuclear pay loads to a theater near you.
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they are not intended for us. they have missiles that reach us. they are developing icbms to reach the united states. >> one thing i read today was that twice before when israel has acted unilaterally in syria and in -- i can't remember the other place -- those programs were halted but our discussions and negotiations with north korea through the iaea have failed. would there be a legitimacy for israel to move forward on its own? >> absolutely. it's funny that you bring up north korea. i think it was 1994 bill clinton said the same things president obama is saying. he is saying they want the new capability for energy. they are going to agree to inspections and rejoin the world community. look what happened. the writing is on the wall. this is what i don't understand. the president has not been honest about a lot of things
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about obamacare, transparency no smidgen of corruption at the irs. we are supposed to believe everything he says about iran? i don't believe it. also when he says they crossed the red line in syria i'm going to do something. he didn't do anything. then he traded these -- he got these desserters out of gitmo and all of a asudden we are supposed to trust deal making skills with iran. he misses isis and suddenly he says i'm all over the iranian nuclear. >> i have a feeling you could go on and on. >> evidence he is on top of this at all. >> we had an hour you could probably keep going. juan, let me ask you about the american hostages held in iran. do you think the administration dropped the ball in this deal making not getting those four individuals out? >> no but as john kerry said he raised this at every meeting.
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>> ineffective? >> you guys are all over the map here. i like jesse going on and on. jesse has everything he doesn't like about obama. what we are trying to do here is to prevent iran from getting nuclear weapons. i must say i hope that republicans are willing to listen. i see that the "wall street journal" this is a useful framework. i see head of foreign relations committee saying there is good stuff in here. i think lots of people are saying this is more than we expected to ever get out of the iranians. on the contrary response comes from bibi netanyahu saying they are going to attack the united states. that guy is going ballistic. >> let iranians keep ballistic missiles. what is the underground bunker between the mountain buried with
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a thousand spinning centrifuges with no spot on inspections? we are allowing them to keep that? >> you are allowing them to keep the facility. >> what are they doing in the facility? medical isotopes? >> they built that out of fear of israel or united states coming. >> we didn't know about it until a few years ago. >> we knew about it. >> you guys forget the barack obama administration is the ones who was undermining the iranians. we have been all over the iranians. now we have a deal with the iranians. you are so angry with obama you don't want to acknowledge. >> 75% of centrifuges under obama administration. >> i got to run. >> that's why we should stop them. you want to blame obama or stop -- >> it all happened under his watch. >> the funny thing is you talk about how we got the deal. the diplomatic framework is based on a nuclear threat. the reason why the deal is happening is because they were
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building nuclear bombs. if you start building nukes we come to the table. a better strategy is treat it like a stand castle. you wait until it is almost done and kick it over. >> which was my point about israel acting unilaterally. thank you for bringing that too close. another contender is about to launch its presidential campaign. that and much more ahead on "the five." ♪ grind virtually any kind of food
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more interesting than rand paul. >> rand paul has been most consistently principled person. >> the senator for kentucky might just be the candidate who ends up winning this thing. >> time for a new way, a new set of ideas, a new leader, one you can trust, one who works for you and above all it's time for a new president. >> so a lot of buzz and anticipation about tomorrow coming up. what do you think about rand paul? >> he has my vote because he is announcing candidacy at the golf house. when a candidate starts running is when i don't buy anything because once they start announcing they speak in platitudes and sound bytes. it is when they are not running
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that it matters. like the difference between courtship and marriage. in courtship a guy says anything and marriage you gain 20 pounds. you look what he is doing and not what he is saying now. that is his problem. he keeps changing things. he says this and then takes it back. he says stuff about vaccines and then takes it back. i don't know about that. >> don't all politicians have evolving view points. >> i hate the word evolving. >> you can ban it later in the show. >> i banned it years ago. >> revamped. he seems to be excited to bridge across party lines. he has done very well for himself in different minority communities across different groups which is something that the gop needs to do if they want to survive. >> it is different to lead with your first ad to be the republican nominee with chris matthews and candy crowley. that is different. it might work for i think he draws a broader group
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of people than republicans might have seen before. i think his pathway to the presidency is hard to see. so he will have a lot of convincing to do. maybe he will start doing that tomorrow. >> what else do you think is positive in terms of his view points or message? >> i will have to wait and see. >> i have positives. i'm not a huge rand paul guy but there are positive things. i like how he talks about poverty and goes to the black community and talks about that. i think that is courageous. i think he is a strict defender of the constitution. he spent a long time filibustering. he is a doctor. he performs surgeries on people that don't have the money to pay for it. >> i do that, too. >> what kind of surgery? >> in my garage. >> not going to be able to raise a lot of money. he is short in stature, has a funny haircut, doesn't speak with a lot of enthusiasm and weerds me out a little bit with civil rights stuff.
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he shot himself in the foot a few times on that. he will have a tough run in the debate. he will anchor the guys to the right about the constitution. >> you said something about his height. >> that's an odd theme for this segment. >> you can't have a short president? >> i haven't seen one in a while. i'm not saying you can't be president. i haven't seen one in a while. >> should it matter what somebody brings to the table? >> if they can't reach the table. >> or if their legs hang off the chair. this is going crazy today. this show. wait a minute. first of all -- >> he's not that short you know. >> i'm just saying he doesn't look like a president. looks like guys we have had in the oval office before. >> i will say this. that guy was a tea party guy. i listen to this table and you guys are not talking about him as someone who was a tea party advocate and leader. that is how he came on to the national scene.
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and not only that i'm going to say this weekend the papers had a lot about him shifting positions. that was a good point because i think people are like is he for real? the other thing i would say is you know the far right the hawks in the republican party can't stand him because he noninterventionist. he would say we don't have business in the middle east. why do we have troops over there? that appeals and this comes back to a larger point to young people and a lot of young people see rand paul as ron paul his dad and those people love ron paul. they give him a lot of money and giving a lot of money. watch this. rand paul will do very well. >> to my point about the difference between a candidate who runs and somebody doing their job. why i was impressed with scott walker. he was governing. the stuff he was doing with unions could have cost him his job. he did it anyway. that is more impressive than anything anybody says on the campaign stump.
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>> i think you can't count him out because he has good ideas that people seem to respond to. i like the outreach. i like getting minority communities involved. >> i will say one other positive thing. in 2014 he really travelled the country to help elect other republicans. i think to the extent that he might have problems on the far right wing he went and campaigned for a lot of those people. mitch mcconnell being one of them. >> with good outcomes. >> if you are looking up at him he looks really tall. >> i just want someone that can lead. ahead, a high school student with a very tough decision to make. he is anhas been accepted to all eight ivy league schools. hard work and the american dream coming up next.
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his parents moved to america from nigeria so kids could get a better education. high school senior didn't let him down. the the student has gotten into all eight ivy league universities along with five other colleges. and now he has a hard choice to make. how did he do that? >> i worked pretty hard. i definitely tried to apply myself and think of every opportunity afforded to me in my high school. i think like i'm very humbled by the situation because like i get to represent my school and community in such a positive light. seeing my parents lead and how many times i get knocked down keep persevering despite
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potential to sucom. >> right now he is leading towards yale university. for me i want to cry. it's unbelievable. i think this is what america is about. the other day we had a thing about arnold schwarzeneggar giving thanks to americans for the opportunity. a little different. this and why america is the place in the entire globe for everybody. you love your kids and you want the opportunity. >> the american dream. you play by the rules, didn't break laws. now look at him. he is going to whatever school he wants. he applied to all eight ivy league schools and got into stony brook. he even has a safety school. i did see a red flag on his resume. he volunteered for a social justice program after school. i'm a little worried about him.
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i'm just kidding, juan. the kid worked hard. i have a lot in common with this guy. i work hard, too. when i first came to fox i was working weekends freelance no health insurance. and now look at me. i'm filling in for eric bolling on "the five." >> you are really coming up. >> little success story. >> dana, i want to ask you -- this kid i think from the conservative perspective would be a role model for american kids but also for black american kids. >> absolutely. what i was going to think about is i would like to do an interview of his parents and find out how did they keep him focused. what was their secret. he obviously is a driven individual. what was it that the parents did that we can all learn from and pass on to other people. >> he praised his parents. we didn't show it but he said the parents were working very much hard nosed jobs jobs at target. they would get knocked down and
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get back up. the parents were models for him to say go get it. don't buy that you can't do it. go do it. >> my gut tells me that immigrants are the last people to play the victim card because they are too busy working. why do immigrants do better than people who are born here? because they believe in community and help each other out, families, relatives friends. let you sleep on the couch and lend you money. they are closely knit. we are losing that in the american people born here don't have that community. and also the active immigration self selects for the type of person who excels. the person who leaves for a better life generally is a risk taker, works harder values opportunities. there are people born here who enjoy the western life who take it for granted and don't care. >> so the idea what so many young people feel entitled to
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the education and the good jobs, the outcome, to the internship. we have to turn that thinking around whereas it is a privilege and a habit to live in this country and have tremendous opportunities versus just the right. i love this story. it is great about this country and learn from this. >> gets into all eight. that's the standard. that is what i'm looking for. >> more good news on "the five." baseball's opening day. major changes in store for the major leagues. you are going to learn about it when "the five" comes back. people ship all kinds of things. but what if that thing is a few hundred thousand doses of flu vaccine. that need to be kept at 41 degrees. while being shipped to a country where it's 90 degrees. in the shade. sound hard? yeah. does that mean people in laos shouldn't
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baseball's opening day. the mlb has a plan to win you back by speeding things up. rules are in effect that mean shorter time between innings and pitches. the average game last year was three hours and two minutes. i have been to a baseball game with you. we weren't really at a game but in one of the suites. >> i don't want to give anybody the wrong idea. you ate a hot dog and yelled a
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few things. i don't think you watched the game at all. these things going to help you watch? >> i was mostly eating. they have fantastic food. chicken wings and hot dogs. i took pictures. i love baseball. i grew up loving baseball hanging out at candle stick park. i used to go to the bubble headers and go to batting practice before the double header. >> what were you doing there? >> i loved baseball. i love sports. i grew up playing fast pitch softball. this was my deal. >> you have a young son. will he sit for three hours. >> the youngest one loves it. the older one doesn't like it. i noticed according to the statistics the average fan is in his high 50s or low 60s. that's not good for baseball. they are putting a clock up in the outfield like a 24 second clock in basketball. i got to think i just like baseball. i played baseball.
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i like it. i hope they don't ruin the game. >> i don't know if you know what baseball is, dana. you have a bat and you swing and hit the ball and it goes into the field and there are home runs. sport? >> i have. i know you would be questioning that. ran this funny ad in "usa today" about calling it a touchdown. they were just making a joke like i make a joke. yes i know what baseball is. i don't like to go to the games because i am afraid i will get hit with a ball. >> you mean a grounder. >> do you have any changes that you would like to see happen? >> as you know i played briefly for the pittsburgh pirates before my injury. >> yes. >> never mind. it's not boring enough to me. it should be like a golf tournament where you have 72 holds, 72 innings in a row. >> i want to slow the game down.
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95% of the time when you are watching a baseball game it is enforced contemplation. you are not really watching the game. you are thinking about the meaning of life, thinking about what you will do with work. how is your marriage? is there life after death. that is all baseball is is an excuse to be in your own head and pretend to be interested in something. if anything we need more baseball. >> i got your joke. >> it was really funny. >> i don't think it is bad to speed it up. speed it up a little bit. >> how about we speed up this segment? >> i must tell you when i go to games i think there are young people in the outfield and they are there to drink. >> they are. >> where did you get that idea? >> young folk drinking in the bleachers. "one more thing" is up next. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil.
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>> can we go to the weather. >> it's pretty funny. at least he made fun of himself. >> that was a set up. >> you think so? >> you fell for it. >> we wanted to take a moment to think about the victims of terrorism. the tsarnaev trial is happening in boston. closing arguments happening today. i feel like this case hasn't gotten enough front page attention. there is also the kenya attack where 150 people were killed by gun men and again that was radical islam and then the isis women in new york yesterday. i was interested to find out the thread that ties all of these together is the radicalization of these young people. in kenya one of the gun men was the son of a prominent government person in kenya. i think that if we can try to crack that code we might get a better answer and we have to
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keep victims in mind. >> and fry tsarnaev. >> death penalty. >> if that guy doesn't get the death penalty i'm moving to texas. time for greg's gut fact with 100% more fact. how many google searches are there every day? >> come on. >> i don't know. >> in the world? >> in america. >> in america or the whole world? >> i don't know. who knows? you know what? this is supposed to be a learning experience. >> she cheated. >> i said between ten and 100. >> trying to signal her but she wasn't picking up my code. >> i soogo to juan. >> i hope your feelings aren't hurt. anyway, this weekend as you well know by now wisconsin beat
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kentucky afterwards when one of the players was asked about guarding their big center another player said blank that n word. you know from me that i am upset about the casual use of the word in america. this is exactly how crazy it is that you have a black player cursing out a white player and calling him the n word. they don't understand the word. somehow they want to defend it and people like the guy on empire tarrance howard said it is okay to use it. >> the n word was nuisance. >> if there is doubt that we should have elected mitt romney as president listen to this. so everybody fills up their brackets. mitt romney near perfection for the four final four teams picked matchup correctly 99th
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percentile. president obama 40th percentile. >> there you go. >> no mistaking you. >> everything proves your point. >> we move for a victory wherever we can. we are so sad. "special report" up next. a moving target. president obama wants congress to back off its insistence on trying to get a veto power over the iran nuclear deal, a deal that appears to be different than originally advertised. this is "special report." good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. president obama's quest to get his legacy nuclear deal with iran from theory into practice may have to go through a republican controlled congress whether he likes it or not. the president is asking lawmakers to stay at arm's length on a tentative framework. critics see as an outline for appeasement. one particular issue the ongoing evolu
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