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krystle campbell, martin richard. lingzi lu and officer sean collier. america will never be the same after the boston marathon bombing or nempb9/11, but we move forward. police officer charged with murder, shooting a man in the back of a traffic stop. protest calls for calm. >> i'm not supposed to bury my son. my son is supposed to bury me. >> we'll take you to north charleston and talk about what that video may prove. plus the boston marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev now a convicted killer. jurors gave their decision just minutes ago. guilty on all 30 counts. the next step, deciding whether he should die for his crimes or spend the rest of his life in prison. we're expecting to hear from the lawyers on both sides and from the victims' family members who
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are expected to speak live just minutes from now. we'll bring that to you live, so let's get to it. we'll start with that breaking news, the boston bomber has now been convicted. but the question remains, will he die in prison or will he die by execution. after more than 11 hours of deliberations jurors today found dzhokhar tsarnaev guilty on all 30 federal counts. legal analysts say this is part of a deal that was basically already done. now comes the sentencing phase. and the judge says that could start as early as next week. dzhokhar tsarnaev's own lawyer admits that her client took part in the attack. but she also says the suspect's late brother was the real master mind, behind the attack and man hunt that left four people dead and more than 260 others hurt. it now comes down to whether
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jurors decide life in prison is the appropriate punishment or whether lethal injection is more fitting. fox news senior judicial analyst is here in studio and we're also outside the courthouse in boston. no emotion, huh drew? >> reporter: i got to tell you. that's one of those six of one, half does of the other. if he shows too much emotion, even's going to say he's feigning it, his lawyers prepared him for it. i would not expect him to be crying particularly when the trial strategy was we're going to concede guilt right from the beginning. the real emotion is going to be during the sentencing phase. >> what are we expecting there? >> well, the government has a burden of demonstrateing to the jury that the statutory requirements for death have been met. there are about 26 aggravating
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factors, aspects of his involvement in this that indicate death. the nature of plotting and planning. the victimless -- the innocence of the victims. the particular horrific way in which it was done. his lawyers will argue that 25 or so mitigating factors. that he didn't have full consent of the will. that he was somehow under the thumb of the brother. that he has a mental derangement that prevented him from doing fully and freely what it is now apparent that he did do. the government has the burden of demonstrating that the aggravating factors with respect to him outweigh the mitigating factors. then they have to demonstrate death by getting anesthesia vote unanimous vote. that's a recommendation to the court which the court can accept or reject. >> drew, the lawyer here for dzhokhar tsarnaev judy clarke,
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is very, very good at what she does. i guess after she represented susan smith and made it so that she did not face the death penalty, that's the mother who killed her children years ago and really stunned the nation. judy clarke since then has worked on these sorts of cases. trying to keep people off -- away from the death penalty and to get life in prison. she's good at it. >> let me tell you something. if you went to the justice department right now and ask them who they think should be the lawyer for the defendant in this case they say judy clarke. that's how well respected she is. what she's done is really pure genius. she's conceding the aggravating factors. she's thrown in the towel on them. what she has said from the beginning of guilt/innocence is the relative role in the case specifically had the older brother been alive, there wouldn't be a death penalty case
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right now for the younger brother because he would have gotten life without patrol and all efforts would have gone after the older brother. the 17-year-old, they just got life, no parole. here, unfortunately, for this defendant, his brother was killed. >> i hadn't even thought about it in this way. >> drew is right on the mark because he knows the law. one of the mitigating factors is, think about this another human being was more responsible for these deaths than my client. if she can make that argument to the jury and that's a relatively easy argument to make using the government's own evidence that is a substantial mitigating factor that is a factor that indicates no death penalty. she very shrewdly saved her silver bullets which is the argument i just attempted to summarize for the penalty phase. she did not fire any of those silver bullets and waste them during the guilt phase because
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she shrewdly acknowledged the obvious. the evidence of guilt is overwhelming. >> what you said the jury may buy completely is the older responsible is more responsible than the other brother here. it was dzhokhar we see on videotape putting this bomb down next to an innocent child. >> yes. >> standing along the finish line. that's not going to help. >> she's going to have to address that. she's going to have to address that probably not through his testimony but through the testimony of experts who will say he was -- he was a robot when he did it. he did it not because he wanted to kill that beautiful innocent 5-year-old boy but he was terrified what his brother would do to him if he didn't do it. >> drew, this same jury will take care -- go ahead. sorry. >> and following up on that, falling under the influence f on the brother.
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again, she has paved the way right from the beginning. it's not that he didn't do these things, because these things are horrific. anybody that would say they're not is crazy. she's going to say this is a 19-year-old that's from a dysfunctional family. the family is overseas. he's under the influence of this brother and what he did is a responsibility of being brainwashed and convinced by an older brother. some olders brothers get you to do hard things. he got him to do the ultimate revolting act. >> the jury, seven men, five women, one of those jurors is one who was against the death penalty as a lot of americans are, more liberal environment up there. but she said she'd be able to consider the death penalty as a possible punishment if the circumstances warranted it. i wonder what more you know about this juror the way they've been acting in there. >> what i bring to it is this.
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in order to get to be death qualified. you know, in some many trials prosecutors pursue the death penalty because they want a death penalty qualified jury. a jury willing to come back with the death penalty. in this case what you're looking for is that one person that is going to say you know what, i'm satisfied with him being in jail 23 hours a day for the rest of his life where there's ten or 70 more years. you want that one person that's convinced that that's the just punishment and it takes one. one person to have the fortitude to hold out for a day, a week or a month. and as the judge said, going to be life without the possibility of parole. >> life imprisonment is no walk in the park. he'll been in colorado which is where some of the other people you just mentioned are. the jail is 400 feet below the surface of the earth and you're
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in a six by eight jail cell for 23 hours a day. the defense offered to plead guilty to all these charges in return for life without parole about a half dozen times. and the government said no. the government won't tell us what it spent on this case. estimates range between three and $5 million to prosecute him. if this jury returns a verdict of life in prison, it will be a co-loss sal and monumental defeat for the government. >> we don't know specifically why the government decided to go that route. we know there were family members advocating for the death penalty. that's always taken into consideration. there's more that that in that the government may have wanted to send a message to anybody else who wanted to do this sort of thing. if you want to meet your maker we can take care of that if you do this. >> the last polysaw in boston was that only 25% of the populous wanted this guy to be
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executed. not in favor of the death penalty. so the government's job is a formidable one in the next couple weeks. >> i saw that. and some people were saying we've had enough killing here. these are people who have been through a trauma you and i can't know. they've lived through the boston bombing. drew, your point was? >> well you know, and that's what makes from an intellectual standpoint this such a crazy situation. we're in a state where the people do not want the death penalty. they have voted against the death penalty. so there was no option to pursue the death penalty in the boston marathon bombing case. just a few miles down the rode in the aaron hernandez case, they can't go for the death penalty. here, what they've done is gone through the back door with what they can't get through the front door. they're pursuing the death penalty in a jurisdiction where
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statewide they can't get it. it's really kind of a crazy scenario. remember, these jurors are from this populous. these are the people of a state that do not under any case want the death penalty. >> i see it the same way. it's like you want to pursue the death penalty, you could have spared all of this heart ache, all of this pain, all the reliving of all this -- make no mistake, we are about to all and those families are about to have to relive this thing in ways that are really hard to think about. >> you're exactly right. massachusetts hasn't had the death penalty since 1952. >> like most of the world has. >> its last execution was in 1947. this is an extremely unpopular instrument there. you know because we were there, that the execution will have to take place in indiana because it's against the law even for the federal government to execute anybody in massachusetts. and the jurors are not deaf
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dumb and blind. they will know all this. you're right we're about to see another horrific phase of this trial. but this one will center on the space between dzhokhar tsarnaev's ears and what was motivating that space. fear, the brother or malice in his heart. >> most importantly and above all today, a jury of his peers has found dzhokhar tsarnaev guilty on every single count the government levied and he does face the possibility of death by execution. we've been putting two sets of microphones up on the screen for you. as you look at the screen on the left that's where the lawyers for the two sides of this are expected to come out and make a statement. and then on the right-hand side of the screen that's where family members are coming. it's my understanding that the family members requested this time, family members want to be heard today. they came to the news media and
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asked for the microphones so we can be heard. we're going to let you hear them when they do come to the microphones. i want to tell you about the other couple big stories we're following. you heard there that the jury has the case in aaron hernandez. he's the former nfl -- the former new england patriot accused of murder himself who the -- his -- huge turn in closing arguments for his case. his own lawyer admitted he was there when it happened but he didn't do it. it's now with the jury. in south carolina one that has stunned our nation. a police officer charged with murder for shooting a guy after a traffic stop. here's the thing. this guy was apparently just walking away, his back to the cop and the cop fired not once but eight times. the cop's now charged with murder. the person who was fired at, the victim in this case, is now dead. and the case of th officer and the recordings from the police scanners as it all unfolded.
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the families and the lawyers are to speak in the dzhokhar tsarnaev case, the boston bombing case. we'll go there for that live. >> first, murder by cop. that the accusation now against a white police officer in south carolina caught on video gunning down a black man who was trying to get away. it happened in north charleston,
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a mostly black city next to charleston. it's just the latest case of a white officer killing an apparently unarmed black man. this time, thankfully a witness recorded the shooting. after the video went public the police officer's lawyer quit the case. the video begins after the cop pulled over 50-year-old walter scott for a broken taillight. according to the police report, the officer then tasered him and then the victim made a run for it. as he ran away, the officer drew his gun and fired eight times. [ gunshots ] >> according to reports, five bullets hit him. one of them right in the heart. the video -- jumpy there. you can see that as walter scott lay face down either dead or dying, the officer handcuffs him. that's when the cop apparently tries to cover up what he's done. video shows him dropping
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something next to the body. it's hard to say exactly what it is. police scanner recordings show the officer claim walter scott tried to grab his taser. something the video does not show. >> shots fired. subject is down. he grabbed by taser. >> after comparing the officer's story with the video prosecutors charged the officer with murder. he appeared in court where a judge refused to grant him bail. a short time ago, the mayor announced the city has fired the officer. john roberts with the news live in north charleston this afternoon. >> reporter: what's really striking about this case is this is everything people suspected happened in ferguson, but what's happening here is completely different than ferguson. the protestors have been out certainly. so far, they have been peaceful. people preferring to let the wheels of justice turn, at least for the moment. that's because law enforcement has worked very quickly here. the investigation was
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immediately turned over to an outside agency. that video emerged that directly contradicted what the officer said. he was immediately fired and then charged with murder. here's the north charleston mayor. >> the video is very demonstrative of exactly what happened. without the video and that was the only witness there was actually was the gentleman that was making the video it would be difficult to ascertain exactly what did occur. >> reporter: the mayor said he spoke with the family today, described them as upstanding members of the community who are hurting deeply. though, they are taking solace in the idea that they are getting a measure of justice. >> and we can't get my brother back and my family is in deep mourning for that. but through the process of
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justice has been served. >> reporter: of course we've seen cases in the past where a police officer has been charged with murder only to be acquitted after a trial. so really, the entire story won't be written here until after the trial of michael slager. >> what more do we know about this now fired cop? >> reporter: we know he was a weight waiter for the town. he joined the police force here five years ago in 2009. he did have a couple complaints levelled against him. one, an allegation of excessive use of force for tazing some guy. after a police investigation he was exonerated for that charge. >> john roberts on scene for us. thank you john. more from the south carolina shooting ahead. we'll go back for a look at what that video may actually prove and what it does not show.
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seconds ago family members began speaking in boston. this is karen brew saturday. >> aware this is not a process that's going to be over any time soon. it's probably going to take many years to get through this. but it will be good to have it that much further behind us. >> what would you say the feel something among the group regarding the death penalty? >> i can't answer that for everybody. honestly, we haven't talked that much about it. i think it's just a personal
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thing. it's something that everyone has their own response to. so i don't feel comfortable answering that. >> -- reaction. [ inaudible question ] >> i didn't expect anything at all. we were just talking about it inside and whether or not he showed any remorse how we would feel about it. personally i wouldn't have got it. i would have been more frustrated if he had shown it. throughout this whole thing, he's been, to use my word, arrogant, walking in and out of the courtroom and completely disinterested. if i saw anything from him today i would have been a little more frustrated. >> your name again ma'am? >> my name is karen broussard. i'm grateful to have him off the street. i'm grateful to show everyone the world that it's not tolerated.
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this is not how we behave. and we're grateful everybody's worked so hard to make it known that we're not going to allow this. >> is there such a thing as closure here? >> no. and i say that personally just because it's not something that you'll ever be over. you know, you'll -- you'll feel it forever. there will also be something that brings it back to the forefront. but we're all going to move on with our lives and we're all going to get back to some sense of normalcy hopefully when this is all done. so closure, i guess i don't think so only because it's forever a part of our life. >> what has it been like for you coming in and seeing -- [ inaudible question ] >> i'm usually pretty passive personality. so when it first -- when i came for the arraignment i was really surprised how appearingry
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ry angry i was to see him and how i was happy to see that he had some pain. but, you know i'm just grateful to have the team that did the work to make sure that the right outcome happened. and i -- you know i don't want to carry the anger and i don't want to be -- i don't want to feel the anger that i think drives people to do hateful things. so i want to put it behind me. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm glad that they took time to go through everything because i wouldn't want anyone to question whether this was just a rash decision. i don't think that it was. i think they took this very seriously. so i'm grateful to them. and i don't envy them. i think about them and what they've had to go through. it's just as traumatic i think for them to have this experience this and see everything that they've seen. i'm concerned for them and i'm
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grateful for them. >> what do you make of the defense trying to push more of the responsibility -- [ inaudible question ] >> i just -- what else can they do, you know? they have a job to do. they have to try and make it as easy as possible for him. the brother is not here to -- to alter anything or say anything differently. so i suppose that makes sense. but for me it just didn't matter. you know, he was all in. he's a grown man and made choices knowing what the outcome could be and knowing what the consequence would be and he made the choice to go ahead. >> what's your reaction to the verdict? >> she's stepping down of new hampshire. she was 10 feet away from the first bomb. her daughter and a friend were both injured by the explosion.
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now let's listen. >> we support each other. [ inaudible question ] >> no. it won't be believable to me. i was surprised to see them come out and say that. i was curious about the process and what happens now that they've admitted it. why are we going through all this process. i'm grateful that we did because i think it will help the injury to make a fair decision. but no at this point i don't believe that there's any remorse. i think it was probably just a conclusion, there was far too much evidence showing that that's what happened. so they had no other option. >> last question. >> -- notion by the defense that the brother --
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[ inaudible question ] >> not coerced by him. certainly i think that he did a lot of the work. but i mean, it's understandable that the younger brother was going to school. he didn't have the capability or the location to build bombs and do all of that. but i think he was all in with the brother. i don't think that -- i don't think that he was driven to that by any means. >> thank you, guys. >> it's important for me to be here -- out here with you all. >> in the trial. >> for me personally i needed to go through the entire process. it's just the way that my -- my healing can complete. >> why? >> because i feel like i needed to experience it from beginning to end. something happened to me and i need to go through it from beginning to end to get my brain to just understand the whole process. >> thank you. >> thank you, guys.
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>> thank you very much. >> a strong and impressive woman she has been throughout. karen broussard, who has driven with her family a daughter and a friend. they were standing 10 feet from the first bomb. she had described the weather as beautiful. her family had made the trip. her husband ronald and her daughter and their friend were all laughing and smiling she said. excited to be there. and then all of a sudden, and here's how she described it. she said quote, it was just an incredible boom, you could feel the air rush right through you. the debris was protruding from both of karen's calfs. a chunk of her husband's leg was missing. their friend was crawling on the floor with an injury to the leg. quoting again, all i wanted to do was get them away from there, she said. people were screaming and
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scrambling. railings were falling on top of people. a victim who said i'm a pretty passive person until this came along. she said she was surprised when she was there and she wanted to see him feel a little pain. she's been vocal and articulate and very good at expressing feelings under very difficult situations. the other person who came to the microphone was carlos arredondo. this photo we have may put your memory into place of who he was. this is that iconic hero bik picture. this is certainly one of them. they have all come to be friends over time as he was helping all of those around him and stood boston strong, if you will, in the face of all this. they've just -- you know, boston has just brought all of us to a new level i think. their strength and the way they've been able to articulate their feelings.
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it's sort of in your face environment like we have around here. >> i think that the woman we just listened to was very moving. she -- she was more concerned with the purity and the lawfulness of the process to demonstrate to the world how fair the country is and boston is even to the most horrific and obviously guilty among us. >> thankful for the jurors. sad for the jurors that they had to go through this. thinking about them through it all. man, that's how you ought to be. >> yes. >> so this jury has a lot to go through now. it's really not a small -- it's not a small task here. it's going to be difficult -- >> the penalty phase of the trial could actually last longer than the original trial did depending upon the nature of the expert testimony that's brought in. things like his childhood, his school grades his subseven yens
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to the brother, his dysfunction dysfunctional family. the statutes require that the court permit inquiry into this to determine whether or not he knew there was a bomb in there, whether or not he intended the consequences, or whether he was just trying to please his brother. >> certainly if there's more family member whose come up, we'll take you back for that. the reason the judge is here this time is to talk about the situation in south carolina and the continuing coverage of the white police officer charged with murdering an unarmed black man. [ gunshots ] >> we stop that video there because we feel like we've shown a man getting killed enough. but it's online if you want to see the rest of it. clearly, amateur video shows the officer opening fire on the guy, shooting him in the back as he ran away. a little bit of the back story is, he had owed some child support payments. as the story goes, we'll see as the investigation goes on.
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but he didn't want to have to go to jail or get in trouble regarding -- nothing violent in his past of any kind at all. these payments that he needed to have made. he got tasered according to the top and then he started running away. back to the cop, boom, boom boom eight times. back to the judge. i said earlier, thank god for this videotape. and one of our viewers always on the weird side of things said what do you mean? i mean thank goodness we have video of what happened here so that they can get to justice in this case. and the video -- without the video i don't know where we'd be. >> it's a rare criminal prosecution where the entire crime is captured on tape for the injury to see. look, the law gives police officers discretion as to when to use deadly force. it's not broad discretion but they have to know what they're doing. when it is necessary to stop someone from using deadly force
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himself. when the threat of that posed by that person is imminent and likely to happen. so this guy has no weapons in his hands. he's being chased by the cop. the issue is child support which the cop doesn't know about and a broken tile light and this cop shoots him eight times. it's almost inconceivable he could be acquitted no matter what preceded the tape. what happened after the tape is the reason he was charged with murder. after the tape -- he apparently there are different ways to view this part of the tape. he apparently dropped his taser there at the death scene so that he could argue the reason i shot him is because he stole my taser. now -- >> suggest he planted that. >> correct. planting evidence is an independent felony which would indicate con chestness of guilt
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on the part of the police officer. when police officers do their job and somebody dies as a result, the charge is often criminally negligent homicide. this charge is first-degree murder because of the alteration of the crime scene by the police officer. at least that's the government's case against him. we don't know what his defense will be. >> not to mention the guy running from you, having done nothing violent of any kind that anyone have spoken of and he shoots him five times in the back. i heard saying, you know, it's a cop, and you know, well, i'm telling you, if the people give you a weapon in exchange for your protection and your service and you take that weapon and if the video proves to be right and a jury of his peers finds him guilty you murder somebody with that weapon i feel like you have a higher standard to uphold. you are an officer of the law,
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an employee of the people f. you just murdered one, you get what you get. >> the attitude about the death penalty is south carolina is the opposite of the attitude in massachusetts. and the prosecutors indicated preliminarily, now, just charged last night that they will seek the death penalty. if he's executed i can't you the last time law enforcement was executed for murder. >> nor can i. the news continues next. no. it continues now. judge, i want you to come back as we get more of these victims' family members. we're continuing to watch that. and number of different victims. some victims who did not die and family members have suggested they'll be there. if they come we'll bring you that live. a hack attack on the white house and officials are reportedly blaming putin's russia behind the scenes calling it one of the most sophisticated cyber attacks every against the u.s. government. there is word that hackers could
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still have access to white house computers. the white house will not confirm whether russia is behind it. a spokesman says that the investigators conclude it is not in their best interest to identify who's responsible. he also said the hacked system was unclassified. still, it reportedly contains what they called sensitive information including private details of the president's schedule. we're live in washington now. what more do we know about this hack? >> according to reports, a spokesperson for vladimir putin is denying any russian involvement. the white house press secretary would not single out russia earlier this afternoon either. hackers originating out of russia are believed to be behind the intrusion. the hackers were able to access the president's schedule and policy announcements. u.s. officials say classified information was not compromised whicher which earnest repeated this afternoon. >> certainly there is sensitive information that is transmitted
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on the white house network. that's one of the reasons that we describe the activity that we saw on the network as concerns. >> now, you heard him mention there sensitive information. a cybersecurity analyst we spoke with earlier today said unclassified information can still be sensitive in nature potentially allowing cyber hackers to identify things like who makes decisions and who they report to. a source tells fox news hacking efforts out of russia ramped up as economic sanction were being levied against that country. >> the hackers aren't targeting just the white house? >> that's right. the state department has also been targeted as well. just last month they shut down large parts of their e-mail system after a cyber attack they believe was started by the russians. in the private sector as well, there have been cyber attacks against many companies including sony and home depot. all of these hacks have economic leaders worried. this morning at a forum, the new
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york fed president said cybersecurity risks keep me awake at night. >> the newest member of the fox family. blake, welcome aboard. nice to see you. phillip mudd is here. former deputy director of the cia counter intelligence center and author of the new book "the head game." great to see you. >> thank you. >> i just wonder, how many people are doing this to how many people? because if we won't say the russians are doing it that problems means what? >> everybody. let's start down the list. russians, chinese, north koreans iranians, if we were talking about this 50 yeerts ago, that's the 007 world and you said the kgb has a human being in the west wing stealing stuff, you would have said that's disturbing but that's what the spy business is. the second oldest profession on the planet.
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spy services are using a form of -- of the spy business that's less intrusive. no surprise here. >> if you found that the russians had copies of all your stuff, you'd take them out and might make threatening noises, right? >> i think you would. >> unless you were over there interest in red square. >> you just answered my question. i think you would. the first question i'd have if i were sitting adviseing the president hold on go to the people in our business who do this, that is the cia and the national security agency, and say how are you stealing information out of the kremlin. if the answer is we're not targeting kremlin technology i'd say you're fired.s that they got in the system. the problem is not that they're targeting the system. that's the spy business. >> can we not do better in a security sense? >> boy i'm not sure we can.
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there's a couple reasons why. we're going to be less brazen than they are. we have this sense that we have different values. that it's embarrassing for a democratic society to be stealing the other guy's mail. the other thing, they put so many people on these problems, so many hundreds of thousands of people and security services that we don't want to pay for this this country. it's a volume business for them. they have hundreds of people attacking our system. >> tell me about the book. >> head game is a simple story. i started 'agency as a junior officer. people would come in with a ton of information about 9/11 about terrorism. they couldn't figure out how to sort the information because they didn't ask the right questions. i get into the world of buying new house. somebody comes with 100 places you want to buy. too much data. finally i said the lessons i learned from following a ton of data from al qaeda, the same
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lessons on the outside. let me write them down. that's it. >> you'll see him over on that red channel. good to have you here. >> thank you. the news continues in a moment. we're getting close to the top of the hour. the markets have made a move today because of something that happened with the fed. i'll tell you about that. plus, we're waiting for more of the victims from the boston bombing who will come and speak. we are led to believe at that microphone. this is fox news channel.
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columnist from "wall street journal" newspaper. and you've both been wearing these things like a week. >> yep. >> you can't take yours off? >> i can't. >> because apple won't let you. >> i'm happy to take it off. i'm not afraid to take it off. >> and a deal -- don't mess around with me. do we have to have this if we're appearing freaks or not? >> yes. well, you just described yourself as an apple freak. you're going to be very happy. i believe it's the best design the smart watch on the market right now. i think apple got it right. >> i had two others and they sucked. >> i'm with you. >> they were awful. >> the bar was very low. >> i don't want to pull my phone out all the time. if i can look and get my score and not interrupt the conversation i'm having around here, quick text from dad if i can see the stocks real fast.
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>> you can see all of that stuff. for me, a little bit of the issue is seeing the stuff you don't want to see. you definitely get e-mails -- >> i'm not going to put e-mails in the thing. >> that's actually the nice thing about this. apple does give you the ability to customize in terms of notifications you get, what apps you want to have. it is a little confusing to start using. when you start to get used to it, it takes about three or four days for that to happen. >> i was nervous -- there are two buttons on here, the digital crown and another side button. there's the taps and moving around. but i got used to it. i honestly got used to it very, very quickly. the digital crown is one of my favorite features. it's so smart. it looks like a crown from a traditional watch. it gives you access to the home screen and these apps. if you put it right in the middle there, boom you zoom in. if you keep using it, you keep
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zooming in. this is getting its gps from my phone. it doesn't have that built in there. once i started to figure this out, i was very impressed with how the smart decisions using interface. one thing apple was trying to do is not have you touch the screen all the time. i appreciate the buttons and the digital crown for that reason. >> i felt a little bit differently at times. there's this screen right here. i don't know if you can show the camera. there's little apps. i don't have fingers the size of tooth picks to get on here. i agree, the digital crown does help but it's not so natural. there's interface things that are going to take getting used to. >> how is the battery? >> a day long. basically i wake up at 7:30 and most days i made it to 11:30 but not if i worked out. that was a big thing i found. i use this to work out. it's a great workout device. if you use it for that 45-minute workout, it's going to shave 30 minutes to an hour. >> that's the biggest gripe. that's the biggest power drain.
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if you forget to stop your workout, if you don't pause it it's going to drain more battery. >> i have three seconds. >> you are not going to take it out on your phone. >> we'll be right back.
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an american soldier is dead and several others hurt after a member of afghanistan's army opened fire on them. that's from the pentagon. what else are we learning? >> u.s. and afghan forces say this happened just after the diplomat that was in the area left in a helicopter. today, policemen were patrolling the area. they haven't said if they know what the motive was. no one claimed credit for the attack.insurgents have been known to do this.
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>> this underscores afghanistan continues to be a dangerous place. while we have made progress by supporting the security forces and building up the capacity of the forces and building up the strength of the central government that our men and women serving in afghanistan are taking a risk in service to this country. >> the military base is expected to stay open as nearly 10,000 u.s. troops are slated to remain in afghanistan through 2015. that is where i spent most of my time in afghanistan. it's astra teenl strategic location. >> insider attacks they call these. there have been a number of them. >> there have. two so far this year alone. back in february actually a suicide bomber attacked a diplomatic vehicle killing a turkish soldier and also in january another member of the afghan forces killed three u.s. contractors. since 2008, the pentagon says
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there have been 91 of these insider attacks. almost half of them happened in 2012 when there were 44 such attacks causing 15% of the coalition deaths that year. it's worth pointing out the number of attacks like this has gone down since 2012. then again so has the number of coalition forces in afghanistan. >> good point. thank you. word from the chief scientist at nasa that alien life does exist. her team will prove it over the next couple of decades. she added the living ore ging ore ginge ging organisms will be small. when news breaks out we will break in because breaking news changing everything. there were changes that happened this afternoon. show you in the wall. we got word from the fed. the fed minutes were released right here where this drop happened. it seems at the beginning
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guilty on all 30 counts. dzokhar convicted on all counts. one of his victims who lost both legs in the bombing just issued this statement. today's verdict will never replace the lives lost and changed. it's a relief and one step closer to closure.