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now say the secretary of state is not honest and trustworthy. charles kraut hammer is here with who looks strongest in the gop field. following a rocky two day start to his campaign good news for the senator from kentucky. the quinnipiac swing state poll show the senator in a statistically dead heat now7%ko with hillary clinto/a r(t&háhp &hc% joining me now,t0 howie kurtz, media buzz host ann coulter and rich lowery editor of national review and fox news contributor. welcome to you all. let me#a with you, ann, you're here onset. you know, not to be sexist, but you're right here. >> i feel so left out. the only male on the set. >> rand paul and his two day roll out. how did it go? >> i like it when he is cranky always liked that about his father but i think that's not what you want in a presidentiale$ x candidate and i would say specifically to conservatives here a lot of them are
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complaining about mitt romney, for example, that he didn't go after candy crowley didn't attack the media. remember how the crowds went wild when newt gingrich would attack the press. >> i have that here. let me show you newt gingrich when he ran for president last time remember this? >> i think vicious, negative nature of much of the newsfpa media makes it harder to govern the country, harder to attractp decent people to run for public office, and i am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a2 >> he said the same thing to you guys. what i want to say about that is, you know it may give you a moment of euphoria, conservatives, but that's not -- you want your candidate, he has to get independents to vote forp zz him, has to get soccer yglmoms. that's reid does for obama, what the
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çxa5%9mqiut)p oes for obama. remember when the media was ripping sarah palin apart, and obama would say i don't think> should go after candidates' we want our candidate to be gracious. we are supposed to be the attack dogs. >> what do you think of the fact about this last nightrñ, 9vaóxrich he said i think ñ people want to see you stand up to unfair questioning. he mentioned ronald reagan, i think it was this famous moment he was referring to with thegbrophone. watch what i am talking about. here is reagan.@j microphone. >> the difference was, he earned it. that'sw,hat i said to senator paul, you have to earn it. the audience has to be with you, not the other (tp person. >> there's indignation in politics, but it has to be ña(
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sparing, and can't be that you appear to have rolled out of the (áñç2mañ wrong side of the beddduring an interview, which rand(ci seemed like on the "today" show interview. look there'sx,ddy a place obviously for pushing back against@-< reporters. he did it in press)rww availability in new hampshire and worked wonderful wonderfully, question about abortion, saidf#-3up;. wasserman schultzwút her]$fu position. that was fine. tv ë a more sensitivep0 if you seem graceless and prickly on tv,e i don't think it was particularly provoked in either of these two intervú,1ñ you're going to lose, no matter= you are. >> do you think there are folks trying to exploit this for political gain, that somehow(xnl see7
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condescending. i happen,báp to think savannah onv'r guthrie's questions on foreign policy were fair game but say i am wrong, say she was editorializing, overbearing talked overest g-k-him, there's a way to do thata úe f1e again and again. he knew he had this problem, told me this ai?v#ç month ago6ñ?hp#ter he infamously shushedyuñ cnbce#vq÷ anchor, said i lose my temper, 5ïj able to discipline himself. >> some are trying to interview weakness or temperament issue into making it a gender issue. i give the audience exhibit a, mr. schultz on a competing network. watch this. >> there is evidence rand paul hasia reporters. >> okay, ann, t%e0p is ed schul4e%t trying to lecture us about somebody who has a problem with=úowomen. >> he is very as i recall.
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>> who calledy4 éñ laura ingraham a4q@ñ right wing slut. he is lecturi.=x"j on how men need to behave toward women. >> he is the one to take up the battle on this 6@cone ed schultz. arev(29z "a1treated, iñeá] go to >> we heard debbie wasserman and i hope he won't shusho me.6x0u >>!6mp it does expose liberals and75z?b feminists for this annoying double standard of you know we are rough we are tough, we can do the same things men can do but i am a delicate flower,-wj. don't talk to me that way, which is fine and good and why i like how the paul family is kind of cranky with the media. >> you like that. >> then they shouldn't run for president. >> his defense is true i am prickly and arrogant with everyone. if you wanted to you could have a focus group onset with 20 male political reporters talking about how rand paur#2úa@ébcp has treated them this way, the same way.
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>> a lot ofqz have to have arrogancej&=0 to do your jobp dana perino was not play well in peoria, regular folks sitting at home may say kúuwey he seems kind of jerky. >> when you're testing with journalists, saying.=!fç1@ i am just as bad with male reporters as with female journalists that's 2ñ ot where you wantar
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faceéglo confrontation. >> if it was a tactic, whoeverfu1wç gave him that should be fired. i think he d7iu couldn't help himself. i saw thisg z in earlier interview r(t&háhp &hc% when he is pressed on a question he thinks is unfair, it is fine to push back to a point where you go into a 60 second rant and it dominates your first week, scott walker, two guys not in the national media 3mv spotlight, talked aboutr& gotcha questions. i think it is 8óin÷important. i think six months rand paul will have learned to do this. sometimes you have to bite your (ñm tongue. >> i think i can tell you why he is doing this. >>
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>>u+b it is the candidate, everyone xdv÷ it8úç for obama or for nsóv democrat. the mainstream media is acting as they're swiss guard. that's our job, not the candidates. >> best moments for being rude to2 interviewer, the s9cxñk a >> thank you very much. do you want the last word? >>i was going to say rand paul was getting' good media reviews for the announcement speech all'4t short-circuited by the "today" show dust m44hup, it was a classic self inflicted wound. he can obviously reco:[rn but i don't think he should% again, especially if on with you. >> this will pass. i recommend he come to the studio. aso i never sensed sexism. i don't know what's in his handling rand paul or anybody else for that matter if they get in >> we know. >> thank you all very much. in moments, charles7
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senator fácruz, senator paul, senator rubio are expecneh to declare theirjfe1 candidacy by this time monday. the rest are likely not far behind. just a short time ago, i spoke withwd(rp)lesñifáq krauthammer, syndicat!ñ columnist author of "things that matter." rand isin, ted cruz is uninr rubio is about to get in. how do things stand so far? >> we arefát( waiting for rubio to
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jump lpin. one thing the unfortunateñr characteristic the three of them share, they're all first term senators. we have an unfortunavw experience with the current president, who is the same, so i think that workslp againstr i don't think it ist( fatal by any means, but you have a little bit of advan@ if you're a former governor or current governor, which is whyi] i think righv the front runners in polls at the top are jeb bush,t( who was a successful governor inxd florida and scott walker of wisconsin whor prevailed, won three elections, and in fact five if you count two proxy elections. ( r' the topfá tier and my analysis -- >> let me aski] you before you get to that, sounds u$e rand paul gave a preview of how he is going toñr respondr week saying governors are notq always what they're cracked up to be.ñr does anyonemetátjt carter, he said. aerj) uz rememberq ronald reagan, so, you know, uea55e
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carter, it is not asñi if that is presidency, butçó i just people in any ñr+++vnn working against them. but it is not insurmountable at all. cruz has been very impressive in the fact he reported i don't know if it is true but if he raised $30 million in a week, that's serious. >> rand paul had issues in the last 48 hours with the roll out of his campaign, how he dealt with the media the distraction he created but what is his as you see it what is his greatest strength and weakness?
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>> his strength is the fact that libertarianism has a lot to offer particularly as critique of conservatism. i am not sure it is applicable as governing philosophy, but ideas are new and fresh, particularly on domestic affairs. his real problem is that the world changed over the last several years and that our position abroad cratered. and when before this happened, because the obama retreat began in '09, but doesn't have its effect immediately took a half decade. now the impact is being seen everywhere, as former defense secretary, his own defense secretary said the world is exploding all over. so for rand paul who was onp. noninterventionist side of the gop before all this, that was an advantage, at a time we were reacting to the fatigue of the iraq war. now that we are seeing results of the retreat, i think that's working against him in a serious
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way. that's why you see the testiness and problems. i don't think it is just a media or personality problem, that's a policy problem. he's got to tack back from the positions he took. to give you one example, he rose to prominence with an ;"uat11 hour speech on the floor of the senate, denouncing drone attack on and war al awlaki in yemen american citizen behind some bombings attempted against the u.s. i don't think rand paul would make that same speech today, it would be received very negatively. >> so in the top tier you've got walker, jeb bush, you've got marco rubio. and then in the next tierk)é beneath them, cruz rand paul anybody else? >> cruz, rand paul, huckabee, outside chance, chris christie.
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i think of those four you are likely to get one who is catapulted into the top tier, the way huckabee, the way he performed in debates in '08 ended up in the top tier. i think there could be one more entry into the top tier, likely coming out of that pool. >> not ben carson? he polls pretty well. >> i'm afraid he is a good man great doctor great patriot, but it is impossible to go from citizen to president overnight unless you won the second world warúog like eisenhower. >> the bar is very high. >> it is a pretty high bar and really hasn't been matched. so i know he's a popular guy, but i don't see him as a candidate who lasts. >> last question on the question of jeb bush so many people will stop me on the street say oh, can you imagine a bush clinton match up. they seem to express fatigue at
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just the thought of this. how big a factor will that be for jeb in particular because hillary seems the presumed nominee on the democratic side. >> i think unfortunately for jeb it will be a major factor and it is not in any way his fault. you know, he could have been jeb smith. now, he has advantages of being a bush. he has the donor base, well known successful and great family in which he grew up but it is a big liability. look, one of the great advantages the gop has running against hillary is clinton fatigue. people watch her on the e-mails, watch her on the foundation, they watch where all the shifting is inauthenticity say oh, no, are we going through all of this /ntagain. what would you want to run if you're a gop strategist run someone young fresh new, who sort of projects to the future. when you go to bush, unfortunately for him, and again, not his fault, it brings
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back the memories, then you negated the factor you had in the fact that people don't want a clinton again. >> interesting. it is going to be one of the challenges he will have to overcome. great to see you, charles krauthammer. >> it's a pleasure. senator rand paul is now going on offense tonight. we will tell you how the now frontrunner in some swing state polls is fighting back against his critics. plus, dr. ben carson campaigned against rap music and the pop culture, now he is on a mission to end selfies, and what he calls an absurd invention, the selfie stick. brian kilmeade is here. hmm... fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that parker. well... did you know auctioneers make bad grocery store clerks? that'll be $23.50. now .75, 23.75, hold 'em. hey now do i hear 23.75? 24! hey 24 dollar, 24 and a quarter, quarter now half, 24 and a half and .75! 25!
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developing tonight senator rand paul on offense after critics launch a mumt ee million dollar ad campaign in the newest candidate for president. judge alex ferrare is ticked off about the ad that politifact rated mostly false that goes after him for allegedly seeing the iran issue as president obama does. >> right. >> politifact declares the ad mostly false and rand paul's lawyer sends a letter to whom? >> he sent the letter to the stations telling them they better take the ad off the air, which is kind of a bizarre move. let's face it nobody is shocked
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with the fact that political ads are false. everybody takes shots at each other. most know how to handle it, and the way is not to threaten litigation. >> can you shut it down? what they allege is that it is defamatory. >> of course. but nobody is protected against defamatory. if a tv station publishes something false and defamatory, in the sense that it hurts the reputation and it is not true they could be subject to liability. nobody sues for a variety of reasons. one, you're not going to get any damages. what are your damages? you're going to say if not for that, i would have won the presidentiaí6 ñelection? you're one horse in a stable, not even counting the democrat. two, you're a political person you're a known figure. you end up being applied the highest standard. >> to defame a public figure is hard given the way the law is.
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>> it is impossible and the defendant is the media. >> you say why would they do this i think it is to have a segment like this they probably hope somebody will come out, discuss that he says it is false that it is rated mostly false, and that's his way of fighting back. >> the way most deal with it, they respond calmly, it is not true, let me show you why, and politifact rated it you know, five pinocchios. >> but nobody reads plit fact they watch fox news. >> that's true. if you deal with it the way he is dealing with it you are adding to the allegation that you are thin skinned, that you've got a temper, and it is not what you want running for president. people are concerned who has their finger on the nuclear trigger. you don't want it to be somebody thin skinned with a bad temper. >> we will see whether he gets it. let's talk about erica jeannette, former calculus teacher. what did she do?
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>> she apparently had sex and sexting with a student. the student was 17 years old, had sex in an industrial park in a car, the most romantic setting i can think of. >> she's 35. >> she got prosecuted. >> some kid saw like sex messages, reported it. they both admitted it. >> they both admitted it. she was facing considerable prison time, and the judge ended up giving her 60 days house arrest and some other slap on the wrist. >> but the problem, she got 30 days in jail, 60 days of house arrest, three years probation, has to register assex offender. maximum sentence was 7 to 14 years. some say the judge was lenient because of comments he made at sentencing about, quote what young man would not jump on that candy.
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judge garrett d. page, i don't know what candy you get that blows you up like a blueberry, what is he talking about. >> why do you have me on when some judge says some stupid thing, i'm the go to guy. >> she's basically a sex offender, he is like how could he resist the candy of her doing the dance -- >> i think the -- there are two things here. one, she was facing prison time. the gentleman was 17 years old. in pennsylvania i believe age of consent is 16. so legally -- >> why is she being prosecuted. >> because she's a teacher. legally she could have had sex if it wasn't that he was her student. >> she was a neighbor, it would have been fine? >> would have been fine. she got prosecuted for that and also sent him pictures which frankly, if you have them would love to see them so i can comment. >> you dont want to see the pictures. >> i haven't seen the pictures. that was the down z >> is she a molester?
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>> by law, yeah. absolutely. >> in a few months he would have been legal 18 years old. >> exactly. it is one of those laws it is a gray line. difference between 17 and a half and 18 you know, what's the big difference. the big difference is it is illegal under 18. that's the difference. you're a teacher, you have to abide by it. >> the boy prosecutors say his grades dropped, struggling with social interactions. this can have a damaging effect. >> it can which is why they have laws against it. as far as having sex with him, which is bizarre she could have legally because age of consent is 16 but sending him pictures not until he is 18.k(q >> the judge needs to understandk(q inside voice, some things you don't say out loud. >> some things youzcz say in chambers to other fellow judges, you don't silt on the bench and go that candy or whatever. that's just stupid. >> okay judge page. judge alex, great to see you. >> good to be here, megyn. we showed you how hillary clinton is in trouble with6l1w voters in some important swing
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states. up next the stories behind those new problems. we take an in depth look at polling and what's going wrong for her. a small group of students thought they could shut down a showing of "american sniper" because they found the film upsetting, they want it shut down because they found it upsetting. things wound up going not exactly as planned. and you heard the phrase, stealing candy from a baby, what about stealing a pacifier from a baby? what if it is the vice preside
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so what does that mean for the woman often described as inev ed henry has the story from iowa. hi ed. >> reporter: good to see you, governor martin o'malley is talking behind me pushing a populous economic message./lknui hillary clinton set to announce as early as this weekend it is now or never for o'malley, jim webb and other democrats to introduce themselves to voters. remember in 2008, hillary clinton was considered inevitable then as well, but came in third to barack obama and john edwards. and now she's vulnerable again. look at the numbers from quinnipiac. 49% saying she is not trustworthy. virginia worse, 52% saying not honest or trustworthy. colorado, 56%. even a web adviser tells us even if clinton has money and endorsements, she may not get the votes.
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listen. >> it is not about new or old, it is about real. will the real hillary clinton stand up is what the iowa caucus voters will say. and this is a democracy and they understand it and they don't want a one candidate race. i am hearing that all over. >> reporter: a big crowd for martin o'malley tonight. one person told me look this is our thursday night bar. what are you doing here? said who is o'malley. she left, she said this is too big a crowd, i want to go home. martin o'malley has to introduce himself to voters. >> good to see you. joining me, leslie marshall, and joe trippy, democratic campaign manager, has been for years, and fox news contributor. good to see you both. it is interesting that not only is hillary being voted not honest and not trustworthy, but rand paul is beating her at least in a statistical tie in colorado, and iowa.
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most republican candidates at least in colorado are tied with her, in 5!iowa, same deal. >> they should be. look, these three states are called swing states for a reason. they're going to be tight from here through november. they're going to go up and down, going to swing with approvals on both sides republicans and democrats. she definitely is drifting down here, no question about it. she starts or the democratic nominee starts with huge advantages in terms of electoral college. these three states will critical. again, it is way too early to start writing anybody out on either side. >> this is what "the economist" writes. last time she was called inevitable, she was 20 points ahead in national polls and still lost. she's an unsparkling campaigner and primary voters want a choice, not a coronation. are they going to get it? >> i think they might get a choice after numbers
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i don't think it will be elizabeth warren, however, but i think these numbers may prop other democrats we have seen, might three their name or hat into him hillary hasn't announced she will run. everything in public is defending herself, whether about e-mails, benghazi monica lewinsky, money when she was on her book tour and quite frankly she hasn't had the big rally if you will and to the coming out announcement i think that's going to get her some numbers so i am not surprised after the e-mail scandal that we have the numbers that we do today. >> and joe, now the latest reporting is that she's expected to make her announcement as early as sunday, that she may do it on sunday. is that a good move? does it matter which,h day of the week? sort of why on a sunday opposed to a monday? >> i don't think it is going to
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matter that much. also i think depends how she does it which i don't think anybody has much inkling. >> do you think it has to do with the fact that the polls are going down and that she's jumping on it? >> no, they were pretty clear they would be going in april, that's one thing we all do know, there's a plan to come out in april. i think the thing is she has to get out there has to make the case for why she's running. when she does that, whoever the democratic nominee is and definitely hillary clinton is going to have huge advantages in november but she's got to start making the case to swing states swing voters. one of the mistakes she made in iowa last time was not getting there, not spending the kind of time in the community, in town halls reacting with people. it was sort of sterile and away from them. i think that will be a big change.
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i think she learned a lot from 2008. >> elizabeth warren said hillary clinton may or may not be the future of the democratic party in essence her message she said it sunday. you don't think she's getting in the race? no chance? >> no, i don't. i really believe her when she keeps saying she is not going to run. i don't think she has the ego for it. i think she knows and democrats, many of them know, many of them want her to run, that she could do more for democrats in the senate. and i think she's just reserving her opinion on hillary or any democrat until a, they announce they run, b, what's their campaign about, and of course what are they going to do to help, not screw as she accused congress of the middle class. that's very important to her. >> it is late at night. great to see you both. >> great to be with you. ben carson is on a mission to end zselfies. like this one. brian kilmeade has some
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happen soon. >> and that is where they're going to be looking. >> good. >> thank you. >> okay. vice president biden because i'm sure you're supposed to let the baby have the pacifier. >> they're children. >> yes. >> and here is the thing. i don't have a problem with an older gentleman helping but if its his grandchild sh i would maybe like to see it in his house. it's mayor bloomberg's grandchild. he grabs the kid and takes a
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pacifier, odd. but it's the same person that kissed a cheek of a teenager. that was odd so again, he's a nice man. >> very. very. >> he has no -- look how happy she is. she couldn't be more unhappy. he does not understand boundaries. there are nine different headlines to talk about things he's been labelled as. he says again joe biden, biden puts baby pacifier in mouth. the time joe biden stole a baby's pacifier. >> he's like that person coming to your house, don't touch my dog because my dog bites. dogs love me. it's like don't touch the dog, oh i told you. kids love me.
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so don't worry. he does it anyway. >> exactly.we went through 6 or 7 ex-neighbors. this is the reason why you moved. >> they were in the green and won't barbecue with me. dr. ben carson has been asked talking about spring cleaning he nominated selfies saying please stop not only selfies but the stick. saying it's absurd that these are needing to be gone. >> the average person wants to see a selfie. >> scott walker with all due respect, this look. >> how bad do you look. >> this is not flattering. no one looks good from this
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angle. it's not a kim kardashian moment. >> this might be the most important thing he does. certain people should do selfies. see how many hits we get megyn. next week we'll make the announcement. >> there we go. when you get a selfie. i will not buy the stick. i love life, but really i love my chico's life. i take good care of myself and i love what i see when i look in the mirror.
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developing tonight, new police car dash cam video released of the deadly shooting of a south carolina man, walter scott by a police officer. trace gallagher reports. trace? >> reporter: this was a routine traffic stop where officer michael slager tells walter scott he stopped him because of a broken tail late. he tells the officer he doesn't have insurance or registration because he is in the process of buying the car. so the officer goes back to his police cruiser. as he gets back in the car, watch what happens next. taser taser taser. >> you can hear that but no context why he said it. after the shots were fired, he took my taser. during the eyewitness video,
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something drops as he opens fire. later, he picks up the object and then appeared to drop it next to walter scott's body. it is unclear if that was the taser. while the investigation plays out, politics are creeping in. hillary clinton posted this tweet, quoting praying for walter scott's family. heart breaking and too familiar. we can do better, rebuild trust, reform justice system, respect all lives. here is senator lindsey graham's response. listen. >> i don't know what required her to tweet what she did but all i can say is that i think they're doing a very good job in charleston. i am so sad this happened to the family whose loved one was killed. i am confident justice will be rendered and i don't know why we need to turn this into something it's not. >> reporter: nothing in the dash checking your credit score is for chumps.
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the hollywood reporter with a big party and don lemon offered a kind thought. >> i think megyn kelly is powerful, very this is a fox news alert from new york i'm patricia stark. a deadly twister striking the midwest, killing at least one person and injuring 7 others in the small illinois town of fair
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dale. an employee in a motel said the storm took everything out in its path. the twister also caused significant damage. a dozen people had to be rescued from a collapsed restaurant. the tornadoes are part of the a frontal system packing hail through the midwest and the plains. a guard who was shot at the census headquarters in maryland has died. the gunman had kidnapped a woman and was approached by the guard. it ended with a shoot-out which injured both the suspect and one cop. i'm patricia stark. "hannity" starts now. for all your headlines, log on to fox news.com. night. >> thank you. tonight the climate being created is not a good climate. that's why you have these rogue police officers feeling they have license to do what they want to do.
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