a 75-story tower. he finished the climb in 70 minutes. jon: you would be up for that wouldn't you? jenna: i like a good safety rope. why leave it at home? jon: see you back here in an hour. jenna: outnumbered starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." here with us today -- today's hashtag one lucky guy fox news contributor, republican strategist who has worked on a number of campaigns and he's outnumbered. welcome back tony. >> great to be back. >> we worked on these campaigns together. you know what it's like on the other side especially presidential elections. >> yes. i have some experience with that. looking forward to all the great topics today. >> excellent. >> we have some big news. yesterday iowa or bust for

hillary clinton hitting the road after announcing her run for the white house in a video she released yesterday afternoon featuring every day americans. >> i'm running for president. americans have fought their way back from tough economic times but the deck is still stacked in favor of those at the top. every day americans need a champion and i want to be that champion. >> in a sign she may be serious about running a more personal low key campaign this time around, clinton headed for iowa in a van nicknamed scooby. oh, yes, really. first step, a pennsylvania gas station. clinton tweeting met a great family, more to come. clinton heading to the hawkeye state as her part's presumptive nominee. a new bloomberg poll shows three out of four say it would be a good thing to face some serious competition in the primaries. and in the same poll, this interesting nugget for our

candidate who vows to break the hardest gls ceiling, more than 80% say electing the first woman president does not matter in their vote. i'm going to go to you first on this one, tony. she's got a panel van like could bey d -- scooby doo and it's called the mystery machine. >> we have a few clinton mysteries. where is the email? where is bill? it's amazing we could follow o.j.'s bronco down a los angeles expressway. yet we can't follow hillary's van. the problem with hillary right now is not just the strategy of trying to appear more authentic and making it other people. the problem with hillary is hillary. she's not a sincere messenger of this notion that she could somehow, after 25 years of serving at the highest levels of government living a life that very few people live be the

every day american's champion. i think that's why you're seeing a relukt -- re-luctance by democrats. >> we saw yesterday the new york city mayor who ran her campaign for senate here in new york he wouldn't even endorse her on the sunday shows so how realistic is it that someone is going to get in and challenge hillary? >> it's really tough to tell. not only is it a question of who but how serious are they going to be? is martin o'malley a failed governor of maryland going to be the barack obama? >> have you heard him speak? she really has to be the idea he could potentially challenge her. >> and then senator weber, another admiral man. >> bernie sanders, his team saying they're still considering the decision of whether or not

he's going to run. >> look at bernie sanders who is real a socialist and he admits this. this is something the man is very proud of. >> embrace it. >> elizabeth warren, another progressive senator unable to say hillary clinton is a future of the party? hillary clinton is the worst poster child for democrats who want to connect with every day voters. think about it. you know this better than anybody. wall street is very close to hillary. she's top 1%. is this person going to champion the americans? >> look at her foundation and the companies that have given to the foundation, they are not expecting her base would very much like. monsanto make gmo seeds and vegetables. lockheed martin, h & r block and goldman sachs and also the foreign governments. the only way they can lobby her

is through a foundation. >> can i stop you? do people really care about that? >> they should. >> it seems a little inside baseball because look. the clintons have raised money from big wall street companies before, harris and you lake-effect at the real numbers. hillary has high negatives. very high negatives but she has 100% name i.d. so everybody knows who she is. my question; -- my question is how do republicans run against her? >> do we think they're going to pull their grandmothers on the trail? is that what we're saying? you hit the nail on the head with that issue. i agree. i think the list of companies is like oh my gosh put me to sleep. but when you get to those countries that are said to have or suspected to have been state sponsors of terrorism then it matters. how do we know how much it matters? last night breaking news she's out of the foundation. she extricated herself. some would argue it's really

late. she, think tipped her hat how important it is. that gives republicans maybe some ground to start talking now that she's come out, they can start putting together the talking points but then should they even focus on her? >> you have to. >> she also took money from algeria while secretary of state. she violated some of her roles. >> you're counting on people to do their research. that's our job but i'm wondering if the audience really -- i wonder if people sitting back really vote like that. >> i think the more you hear this the more when you see her sitting there saying, i'm in a van i'm pumping gas, they're like but we know you're not. >> you have to have an alternative. to answer your question republicans need to come back and present a positive message. if people sit back and say, she's still the lesser of two evils, they're going to vote for

her anyway. >> will cute brad be in the van the scooby van? remember him? >> the more in the van, the better for hillary. >> potential candidates quickly reacting to her campaign announcement. watch. >> we must do better than the obama-clinton foreign policy. >> hillary clinton represents the failed policies of past. >> if hillary clinton created this disaster as secretary of state, how could we ever feel safe with her as our commander in chief? >> meanwhile, kentucky senator rand paul released the first candidate on candidate ad targeting hillary clinton. >> hillary clinton represents the worst of the washington machine. the arrogance of power, corruption and coverup. conflicts of interest and failed leadership with tragic consequences. the washington machine is destroying the american dream. it's time for a new leader and a

new way. >> you know what? i want to start with something that one of our fox news contributors talked about today because hillary really tried in her ad to focus in on a little ad. one minute and 37 seconds before we see her, hear her name, she's trying to focus on the economy. yet byron writes chelsea is wearing thousands and thousands much dollars of designer gear. talking points have to permeate their reality and i don't know if anybody believes their reality is broke outside the co- quotation lines. >> these such an unauthentic messenger when you're trying to apply the champion of the every day american. where she does have strength, people have confidence she could be a president. she still leads in national polling. the problem with hillary is hillary. i'll say it again. her saturation of name i.d. is the highest of almost every person who has run for president of the yat. you're right in that republicans

have to possession an ability to communicate a positive forward looking message and i've been super impressed by our crop of candidates but hillary is the central question and it goes to trust and honesty and these are the two areas where she's the weakest. >> you goiuys have worked on campaigns today. would you not say there's a little backfire zone here that the republicans could get into? if they key in too much on hillary clinton and not enough on something else that the people might be able to bite into, how much trouble could they be? >> harris you nailed it. she's waiting for one of those republican candidates to stick their foot in their mouths. let's flashback to 2002 when she ran for senate. republicans tried to run against her by saying hillary clinton is not trustworthy. it didn't work. this time around i think they need to focus on her competence and look at her foreign policy. in the book which nobody seemed to really read, she disagreed with president obama on russia,

on libya on eegyptegypt, all these things. they have to tie her to president obama. guess what? she said yesterday she's going to run. the "new york times" reported her people saying obama's third term. she'll da that in the primary, not in the general. now is the time to strike and point out she's incompetent. they can't get too angry at her, can't overreach can't misstep but they have to hit on her record that doesn't produce and being tied to an administration by the way that stepped on the little guy for eight years. >> let's talk a little bit about when you look at what republicans could work with within the first campaign ad and then this iowa trip. one of the things that she talked about was keeping families together. how was hillary clinton going to counsel every family in america? >> yeah. dr. hillary. how is gwyneth paltrow going to counsel everybody in america? celebrities get out there and it's so dangerous when you say, i'm going to help the every day

person. immediately everyone looks at you and says but boy, you are so far removed from that every day person and you haven't been here for so long. and you say the matter doesn't matter in people's eyes glaze over? the message is she's bought and paid for. i think that americans get that. that when she talks about i'm going to fight wall street and then makes a comment to goldman sachs where everything in the financial crisis is in the rearview mirror, we need to move forward, reassures them in a sprooift speech that the new york times heard and printed that she's been bought and paid for. >> clintons have always been bought and paid for. i think people almost distrust them. >> people see politicians as all far removed. >> marco rubio? talking about the republican reaction, it's interesting. what i'm hearing are some of the talking points from you guys that either side could use and hillary clinton is in a van. >> a van that we can't see. >> a mystery van.

>> i knew you were going to go there. >> we're waiting senator marco rubio to make his announcement today so we'll cover that when it happens too. congress is heading back to work after two weeks' recess and getting ready for a fierce debate over how to control iran's nuclear program. this is the other big story this week. what lawmakers should do about the deal currently in the works. we'll talk about the corker bill that would put congress in play in all of this and a family which made headlines for the free range parenting style is back in the news. their kids were found walk ago lone again and taken into child protective services. but did those cps authorities go too far or do mom and dad really need a reality check? we'll discuss. and here's your chance to do what we love. chime in while you tune in. fox news.com/outnumbered. click on the overtime tab. yes there's more after the tv version of us online. my favorite part, the online chat. let's get it started with this question. what do you want to hear from

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welcome back to "outnumbered." congress is back from spring recess and the iran nuclear deal

is up for debate. john kerry is briefing the senate on the process and urging them not to to interfere but the senate is planning to vote on a bill that would allow them have to have a say. president obama says all of the criticism needs to stop. >> when i hear people like mccain talking about john kerry and saying he is less trustworthy of what is in the agreement than the supreme leader of iran that is an indication to which partisanship crossed boundaries.

>> he is calling people out on by name. congress wants 60 days to review and vote thumbs up or down. >> he expects everyone to ignore the fact iran' needer is saying one thing and he is saying another. what is the big day? 60 day review? he doesn't want congress to be able to review and have a say? >> he is saying you want to destroy my legacy and people want this to fail no matter what so they will vote no. >> i hope this iran deal is more about than the president's legacy. the one thing the president saying that is so false is this is a partisan attack. senator menendez and schummer

and senator mccain and senator carter all agreeing with thue amendment that has congress has a right to support and pass an ultimate deal and it looks like they will get the 67 votes required to get the veto. the president went on pbs and said iran is like to get a nuclear weapon in 13 years and zero breakout sessions. why don't we continue to have the talk about if sanctions which worked well until now, is the deal. >> he is saying they will pick a point and derail that. saying this is not acceptable and as a result this deal isn't okay. >> it is not always about president obama. i know he thinks it is but it isn't. and tony you made the best point. it isn't just republicans. how embarrassing would it be if

they override a presidential veto? i think the president should thank them because they may get a better deal and they every right to do this because he is an extra constitutional president this calls for a onal behavior by congress stooto step in and say knock it off. there is a precedent with this. they did this before. >> a couple things come to mind. one i get the indigant attitude from president obama and i am wondering why it is note focused more on the religious leader of iran. and some of the other things he said he would like to break. if anybody wants to break mr. obama's leadgacy is it the leader of iran. he is deflecting his angry in the wrong way. and with regard to the congress

and corker bill and just to bring it back to the presidential candidates please somebody in iowa if you see hilary clinton today, ask her what would you do with the corker bill. how would you vote? i think it is important because she is in line along with the other candidates, to be in the white house and inherent what is put in place. i would like to know how the candidates stand on this. >> let's end on that. that is a great point. we have another candidate in the presidential race. senator marco rubio is expected to make it official tonight and what he must do to separate himself from the other contenders the potential crash course with jeb bush and high when he is the last candidate you want to underestimate. and hillary's relationship with the media ups and downs and impact on her image. the lasting impression they can

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ted cruz ted cruz who have thrown their hat in. do you think it is battle for the tea party vote? how important is that? >> in a primarily the conservative base is hugely important. but even though i disagree with marco rubio on a couple issues i like him and i think people need to get over it. he was trying to put a solution forward on immigration and i forgive him. i interviewed him on the radio. he is likable and i would say my best guest on the radio. he connects with young people and he is run and fresh face. i love the visual of him next to hilary clinton. he takes that first term senator with no experience off the table because we elected president obama. i am a big rubio fan. >> i find him disarming for the left. when we sit around the table they have a hard time sticking it to him.

i feel he is someone who will not have foot and mouth disease and make terrible mistakes. and on the debate stage he is the least likely to have a problem handling hilary clinton. he cautiously uses his words. >> underestimating marco rubio is a critical mistake for anybody certainly hilary clinton. he is a real populist. he is an average american. and to contrast is an automatic advantage. and number two andrea you hit something that was critical. marco rubio tried to solve a problem. did he succeed? no. but he tried. that is what my mom said. doesn't matter if you win but you tried. that is why it is important to have a guy like this who is not perceived as a cruz or paul. and a first generation american

this is a man who defends the idea of the american dream better than anybody on the stanley. >> this is someone who could do outreach to young people but the people who have come to make and build the american dream for himself. there is no better person on the stage that represent that vision. >> without question. but i think this is a way to reach out to younger folks on the right. i think he represents where the party might be headed in the future. i talk to a lot of younger people who are all about smaller government, less taxes but on social issues they don't care what everybody is doing. they may not agree but they don't want the government to interfere. he is a bridge to the new republicans. >> i would say two things helped

the roll out for marco rubio. getting hilary clinton out of the way opened the door for #coastisclear and the other thing with jeb bush saying he is staying out until late gives america a chance to learn more about the senator who was speaker of the house in florida. he has a resume with a record. we will have time to get to know him before his friend jeb bush gets into the race. >> we are getting our first look at how the mainstream media will treat hilary clinton. the night before her big launch on social media, saturday night live spewing hilary clinton as a power hunger candidate who will not be denied again with an added cameo from you know who. >> you will elect me. i will be your leader >> i am running because i want to be a voice for women everywhere. >> did someone say women everywhere?

>> with hilary clinton in charge it will be a brand new white house. >> who am i kidding buckle up american, the clintons are back. >> l magazine featuring clinton's daughter chelsea on the front in a piece about motherhood and the importance of electing a woman president. i think this is the beginning of hearing about a woman. >> this is a positive thing seeing the daughter get in. but when you dig deeper and byron york did this, and she is dripping in expensive items. i love a good mateo.

i can get into that. but my mom is not trying to run on income inequality. it is in the mixed messages from campaign. >> there was a spelling error in her announcement. if that was a republican candidate it would be finished and over. >> you and i work for a boss not to mention the name who would have fired one of us. >> i know who it is. >> in her rollout! so look the reality is that is not employ but it is embarrassing. the media was responsible for the collapsing fire wall from hilary clinton going from 65% approval a year ago to around 50

today. they covered the clinton foundation story in the new york city times and took it further in the washington post. the server story as well broke by a mainstream liberal media production. >> the snl skit which i watched many times and laughed do you think it helps or hurts her? i think it takes her negative and makes it funny. i thought they seem fun and likable. >> i think the spoof made her more likable. >> but that is not really her. >> also reminded people they love bill clinton. that line about the clintons are back -- i think he was a very poplar president. he remains a poplar guy. if she is smart, he is front and center and she will keep not appearing until the campaign videos all the way until the end. >> melissa, you are shaking your

head. do you think this helps or hurts her? >> i think it hurts her because they hit on all of the things that are true. that is the danger in comedy. she is focused on herself, managing her message to be what she thinks it will be get out there, i don't think it helps her. i think the comedic acting is hysterical and the biggest danger is prom the left not the right. the traditional media, and you were talking about "the new york times" digging deep in the foundation, the traditional media that would have helped her are not now. those on the left are mad there is not someone like elizabeth warren out there who can challenge hillary and keep her more honest. i think the trouble is coming from the left. >> if she doesn't have a challenger they will rally to help her. you put ted cruz and hilary clinton then the media falls in love with hilary clinton. >> the most critical piece about

her rollout is they left this progressive publication written by a formal counselor to bill clinton in the white house. she is not having a smooth road. >> i don't know. i think it is going to be smoother than we think. they are not asking her the tough questions. >> we are sending harris to iowa. can we have our "outnumbered" panel then? the so-called free range kids who made headlines before because their mom and dad parenting style were picked up by the orlando andpolice and taken away. the big idea and if authorities went too far. >> i was sitting in a closet two and a half hours and he said i will bring you home and instead he brought us here. ♪ help brazil reduce its overall reliance

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>> free range parenting has been in the news. parpt parents that led their kids roam not too far, but to have their freedom. we are told 6 and 10-year-old' walking near the home and neighbors called 911. the children's mom said in this case she told the kids to be home by 6:30 and when they were not she and her husband were frantic looking for them and driving around. cps didn't call them and let them know their children was taken into custody until 8:00 and they were not reunited until 10:30 p.m. and that is not all.

>> they let us sign something saying we will not leave them unattended until they follow-up. i am not risking my kids get snatched again. >> what are you thoughts? >> six and ten? they were together. now you have someone from outside of the home pretending to know what is is going on. they were looking for their kids and not phoned to say they were found. the whole situation sounds odd and suspicious from both sides. the idea you would have to sign the safety plan is concerning to me. now someone else is determining what is going on inside your home all hours of the day. we don't know the details. but a six and ten year old, when i went to the playground with an older cousin when i was six who

was ten. >> melissa, you suspect both sides? >> i think we would have to see the neighborhood. as a parent there are three and four blocks that are safe and walk home and others were not. when we were young we were allowed to do it. i don't know until i see it but they have repeated run-ins with child protective services so having them walking alone again i feel like you know your in a battle so you are antagonizing them. i always get in between the conflict and move them in another direction. i feel like both sides are trying to make a political point. as a parent i would want my kids away from the people. it was wrong to take and hold them. stop this esculation.

>> when you look at the picture the children are dressed warm and loved. not to call is a big deal. you have someone's kid for hours and you don't call? they would have to call me crazy by the time i caught up with my kids. >> that is what bothers me the most is the way the child protective service handled this taking the kids away and not phoning the parents. and i know you had both sides are trying to make a political point but i like the parent's point which is butt out. is this the america we want to live in with kids are snatching by child services to make a point in >> i want to get your opinion. you are a dad. >> beautiful day i went bike riding with my son. i went inside to get something he went down the street took a

left he is gone and i come out skwand he comes back and i sigh relief. i had a helicopter when i was young. i like the idea of giving kids freedom, responsibility, and account accountability and confidence. i agree with andrea the worst part is the detention of the kids. >> helicopter mom right here. space-k will launch thousands of pounds of supplies to the international space station and try to land on the floating piece in the ocean. easy pesy -- not. we have a live report. and gwenth paltrow is taking the food stamp challenge spending

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other produce. critics slamming the actress saying they could not survive because there is so few cal calories. who she kidding? she could live on this for a week she doesn't eat anyway. look at her. she eats three pounds. oh the family is included, too. >> what did you think of that >> she probably went out and brought organic eggs. this isn't expensive and i am not begrudging her for wanting that. that is how i eat as well. >> really? >> i saw people responding to this and saying they did this and they had a whole table full of food. you have to know how to do this. >> that is not the gwyneth paltrow way. in full disclosure her mother played my mother in a movie and they invited us over and it was

beautiful and fancy. i played on the swings in the back yard. anyway they were lovely and fancy all the way back then. so the connecting and trying to inject the kale and was that cilantro? >> it was balk choy. you can be fancy and treat yourself but the goal is to feed the family so you would not go to whole foods or one of the others. you would go to where you can by re -- buy more. >> and there were six limes on there. what would you make with that group of food? >> i am not a that creative but i will say this i like the idea of at least raising awareness and maybe raising aware -- money

but the idea is to sacrifice. she is trying to adhere to the menu she eats. i don't think the reality of the average person eating off food stamps is to be healthy and eating kale lime and beans. >> she is saying everybody could be healthy. >> what would you do with six limes an limes, andrea? >> i think we know the answer to that. where is the blender? margritas. >> you don't think you would sneak a ding-dong? >> would i sneak a ding-dong? maybe. i don't think gwyneth paltrow would. but i looked at the ingredient and maybe she is making fried rice. she could make a big thing of

fried rice. >> every day for a week? >> don't we have to check in when she is done to see how it went? and i don't expect a lot from gwyneth paltrow as far as relating to the common man but i do think she is is will prove a point it is tough to feed a family in a healthy way on that amount of money. >> and we have -- we're all talking about it so con grat. what a new study says might be holding you back from reaching fitness goals. i love it.

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treats. you bust your bum in the gym and on the way home i want to have a reese's peanut butter cup, that is my right. >> i totally dpraechlt you are like some people. i go to the gym mostly for mental health reasons and i love to eat. and i have become addicted to cookies and this is how i justify my cookie habit. >> i am on the live chat which people can watch us on the web. and click on the overtime. i just said i'm too hungry to talk. i will work out and eat a snicker's bar. >> if i go for a week when i don't work out i am not hungry. if i go to the gym, i come home and grab everything. >> i am a victim of this.

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