pes in a while. thanks for watching us. miss megyn is next. the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight the clinton campaign on the defensive as pressure ramps up over allegations of bribery and her larger record as secretary of state. welcome to the kelly file everyone, i'm megyn kelly. the clinton campaign is off to a rough start for the second full week. first dealing with a new book called clinton cash and questions about the former secretary of state possibly showing favoritism to companies or countries that donated to her family foundation. then when clinton campaign chief john last night went out to defend her, he had to also answer questions about exactly what she had accomplished during her tenure as secretary of state. listen to some of that. >> restored america's place in

the world through her, through which have been very badly battered through the previous administration. she engineered a pivot to asia. her first trip was to china. she was i think put some new issues on the table for american diplomacy. >> restored america's place in the world. great. we'll speak with brit hume about that in a minute. today in new hampshire she faced a media getting frustrated with her refusal to answer any questions. chief white house correspondent ed henry was there he just filed this report. >> megyn what we've seen for two days here on the ground in

new hampshire is hillary clinton stealing a page from the playbook of bill clinton which is basically say i'm focussed on the voters, all of this is a distraction. today going so far as to not even engage reporters at all as specific questions were shouted about allegations in this book clinton cash. she does not to want get into whether or not she traded favors. you saw that scene play out here at the community college where i am. interesting as well because the former president was out today in washington. giving a lecture at georgetown, university, he does not want to get, at least in the early stages actively involved in this campaign. but he also made it very clear that the clinton's plan to fight back, listen. >> we're not big on quitting in my family. you may have noticed that. >> now another page from the clinton playbook of course is hit your opponent hard. we see the candidate not doing that, but her advisors certainly

are. you mentioned john, last night making it clear they were going to say that the author peter is a republican operative and he's twisting facts, coming up with conspiracy theories. aye also talked to other advisers to clinton behind the scenes who are saying they plan to make a big deal about the fact that republican presidential candidates like rand paul had information about this book in advance, they think its been all been coordinated, politically, megyn. >> up next, brit hume, let's start with him about speaking out on the charlie rose show and being asked for one of the first times i've seen what had she actually accomplished. what did she accomplish as secretary of state? and now we know the answer, which is excellent news, she has restored america's place in the world. >> well obviously there are a great many people who would strongly disagree -- >> i'm sorry to pause you. here are some of those people

watch. >> well you know in places like pakistan and iran, you're not, you know, there's been no recent time when america was particularly popular there, but more broadly speaking there are a lot of people that would argue that in the rest of the world america's place has not been restored, indeed its deteriorated, but even if you september premise, the idea that she did it i think is highly questionable. in fact the truth about the clinton tenure at the state department is, there's no real sign that she was the key to formlating the policy. -- formulating the policy. it seems clear that the president and the team at the

white house had strong ideas about foreign policy going in and that those foreign policy ideas are what has governed from the get-go, and governed to this day. now, that does not mean she was deprived of any opportunity to make her mark. there could have been a major negotiation successfully brought forward to you know, restoring alliance or create a new alliance for this country. or there could have been a treaty negotiated that she, she was responsible for. or some sort of doctrine fitting within the obama foreign policy that she formulated. none of those things seems to have been true. it doesn't mean she did a bad job, she didn't distinguish herself as a great secretary of state. >> what does it tell you? his answer on what she has done is she visited china. she pushed for internet freedom. then he go ossen to say, she was tough on terrorism, and restored america's place in the world. it seems like he said little things, then this broad brush, like she solved everything.

>> exactly. that's what, that's what you say when you haven't gotten anything better to say. and he's, you know john's an old friend of hers and enabled guy, and he's doing the best he can. this is what it's going to be this defense of her record of secretary of state is pretty thin. and i think that's one of her challenges. >> and this is the first time we've really heard somebody, heard one of her top campaign chairs speaking out. the lines are coming out. the messages are getting formulated, and so that's why it was so interesting. this is what you're going with. and the other thing we've heard now from him, and hillary a couple of times is what a champion hillary clinton is. they want us to know what a champion she is here is an example. >> every day americans need a champion, and i want to be that champion. i'm running for president because i think that americans and their families need a champion. and i want to be that champion. >> we wanted to make the point that this is not about her, it's

about every day americans and what she wants to do to be their champion. >> how long can they keep that up? >> well, you know, it's helpful if you can to show that you're the kind of person who understands the problems of every day americans. that's something her husband always got very high marks for and it helped him politically quite a lot. he had the touch for that. i'm not sure she does. but, look there was also discussion about the small business that she was involved in and she told people that you know, she didn't realize that the situation for small business in america had deteriorated to the extent that it has. even though she said people have been telling her this for the last he didn't know what they meant. well, that's not exactly speaking who gets the problems of every day americans because a lot of every day americans are small business people. >> uh-huh. >> so that's you could almost put that down as a gaffe. >> this why we're not getting

access, not we, but the press. you could hear the frustration with the reporters there. now we have the clinton cashbook, we have all of this. so far, even though john was on just last night, she's answered a few questions. let me show the viewers so they know this is what she's answered. this is the big exclusive interview that a competing network got here it is. >> what's your strategy? >> i'm having a great time. can't look forward anymore than i am. >> thank you. >> well, you know -- megyn, i'm having a great time and i can't look forward anymore than i am. >> i feel that way about what i'm doing. >> that's all it took. >> i mean, is there a reason they're keeping her way apparently? >> look, the trouble, the thing

she faces is, there's a lot of history here. she's not a new face she's been around a long time. you know, and she's, you know, she's got not a lot to show for it in terms of concrete achievements. now she's a symbol, and it has been an important symbol for women and a lot of women admire her who may not agree with her politics or her positions on the issues but, you know at some point, you know, you have to deal with these things, and if you're in a position in a campaign where, you know, you're really not able to answer questions or you don't want to, that's not going to work over the long-term because even if she cruises because she has noticeable opposition really in the general election campaign all these issues are going to be out there. and even if the press isn't raising them, the opposing candidate will and this is all going to be there for people to, for her to answer to, and she's got to do that or it's not going to work in my judgment.

>> you having a great time? >> trying. >> me too, brit, always great to see you. >> you too, meg thanks. >> exclusive. well up next, hillary's team says she's restored america's place in the world. also went on to say that he has fought terrorism and she helped kill osama bin laden. bill burton was at the white house when hillary clinton was secretary of state, up knicks, we will ask him whether that's true. plus senator ted cruz talk abouting who can carry guns. while governor walker defends his record on the second amen the technology changes the design evolves the engineering advances. but the passion to drive a mercedes-benz is something that is common... to every generation of enthusiast. the 2015 dream machines, from mercedes-benz.

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and participated in the decisions that led up to the to the eventual killing of osama bin laden. >> we're starting to get a feel for hillary clinton's message in this campaign it apparently includes touting her success in fighting terror, but is that legit? bill burton worked in the obama white house as a deputy press secretary while hillary clinton was secretary of state. bill, is that true that she participated in the decisions

that led up to the eventual killing of bin laden? >> first good evening, megyn. nice to see you. absolutely. secretary clinton was in the room with the president during all major decisions, and not just that, she had more access to the president than arguably any secretary of state of history. had a meeting with him every single week. one on one, which is something that other secretaries of state have not done. in terms of bin laden as one of his top foreign policy national security advisors, and members of the cabinet she of course was working closely with him on the killing of osama bin laden and every other key national security issue that was on the table. >> okay. she was instrumental to his decision in execution of that strategy? >> hillary clinton was instrumental on all the decisions that the president made on national security. whether or not the president agreed with every single idea she had or every comment she made. she was in the room and she was one of the people he relied on

more than anybody else in this administration. >> why do you think it is then when john was out there and touts her, you know, the war on terror, you know, fighting terror and mentions bin laden, she said he says that an moves on that she mentions a trip to china and internet freedom. as a campaign matter, do you think they're going to have to get better at messaging? >> just because john is on charlie rose getting the perfect sterilized campaign talking points, he's john is one of the smartest guys in washington. and he's talking about, you know, a whole range of different issues and her successes as secretary of state. and i think for him to talk about the different things, they're all important, and just to comment on what brit hume said, they're not just symbolic she's an impressive woman in her own right who is elected to the united states senate, leader in the obama administration, and been a leader on core issues for her entire career. so just call her simple is demeaning. >> i don't think he means to be

demeaning towards hillary, she's been difficult to access. >> really? >> yes. listen bill, we haven't heard from her. you saw the exclusive interview, the eight seconds, if she has something to sell then sell it let's see it. let's cross examine it let's test it if you can't do that, then you don't deserve to be president. >> she actually did a short media available at a border side of reporters. >> when she walked toward them, and they threw questions at her, but she did not answer. >> she did answer questions. and you know, it was not a full blown press conference, but to show that one exchange with reporters just a little -- >> are you trying to tell this audience that hillary clinton has made herself available to the press? you know that's not true. she has been in a bunker. and eventually she's going to have to come out, talk to the press because she wants to be our president. >> we have heard from hillary clinton more than arguably any other woman in the history of

the world, hitliterally. there will be plenty of opportunities for the media to have exchanges and do interviews, press conferences meerkat exchanges, all sorts of stuff -- >> meerkat? >> there's going to be plenty of hillary clinton. >> you are so 2015 meerkat, i'm impressed with that, bill. >> i threw that out there for the kids. >> i don't think she's going to do that one bit. what do you make of the clinton cashbook? that's made a lot of news this week, and it's not just this guy who obviously is a conservative, who's written the book, but you know the new york times is going with this with an extensive report, and so is the washington post and fox news will have its own reporting on friday night. >> i have to say i was shocked at the way this is handled, he is clearly conservative, he's worked for president bush, sarah palin, before this book came out he briefed rand paul and other senators. coordinated rollout strategy. this is very clearly a partisan book that some people are treating like it's not partisan. like it's on a level.

there's going to be plenty books that come out. there's plenty of books written by hillary clinton before and more on the line. >> let skme, i want to jump in the only reason first of all, nobody's read it, you can't give it too much credibility because we haven't read it yet but what i was saying last night, the way it becomes significant is, if you sort of take his partisanship out of it facts that show on this date you know, she had a meeting with somebody from columbia on the next day, columbia got something they wanted. and then on the next day, bill clinton got offered $500,000 for a speech you build a circumstantial case, and those are just facts. >> right. actually the columbia example is one of the great examples. columbia's been one of the central focuses of the clinton global initiative start it started. in columbia people love bill clinton because he's done so much to help the country. so intimate that there was an action, it doesn't hold water. same with haiti and the relief effort to say that anything to do with it.

it doesn't make sense. the reason that it matters where this reporter is coming from is because it has an impact on the credibility of the information. then the other thing a lot of the information appears to have just coming from the clinton global initiative website which is worth noting. >> then you don't match it up with what she was doing as secretary. that's what he's trying to do. >> by the clinton's themselves, it's hard to say they were avoiding it. >> you were jealous of the interview. i'd like to have that access to a top candidate. what would that be like? wait, that was me. that was i was thinking. bill, great to see you. >> great to see you megyn. new developments with the volunteer deputy in oklahoma who says she shot a suspect by accident. mark and arthur are here on how that's going to play out in court and what happened in his court case just today. plus, one woman's call to reform islam is earning her vicious new attacks from american media outlets. she is here, next.

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that has earned her death threats and landed her on an al qaeda hit list. now as she promotes her new book, the anger is coming from media outlets. report in time magazine reading quote, what ayaan hirsi ali doesn't get about islam. she is hurting islam, and one writer in the washington post suggesting her tail quote provides cover for u.s.-led wars in the muslim world. ayaan hirsi ali is author of the book and ayaan, good to see you again. when i looked at the articles they make no bones about how they feel about your book. including this from time magazine. they say your book reads like a homemade intellectual bomb the most vicious examples from muslim societies. and they say, your suggestion that muslims should question whether the koran is truly the

word of god is not going to happen that you are being tone deaf. what say you? >> megyn, good to see you, what i say is there are two different tactics of silencing individuals like me who want to start the conversation about what in islam needs to change. and one tactic of course is the tactic that al qaeda uses, putting people like me on a hit list. it's very clear for them it's a different group that calls them the honor brigade, and they engage in character assassination, i want to say to the articles though books are not explosions, and they are not bombs. we need to end this crisis within islam. i mean any american who sees what's happening in yemen fwhb syria, in iraq, you see as

americans that it's coming to us of home now. there are six somali young people who left minneapolis and san diego to join the islamic state. if we want to the end that sort of really, you know violent jihads, then we need to start talking about the issues within islam. i have fought this fight proposals in my book, and i invite these people who are sneering me to come and put splugs solutions on the table not -- >> this is one of the complaints. this is from the same time article where they talk about how you are failing to see, like they say too often this happens failing to see how flexible islamic laws can be and flexibility was one of the reasons that islam could spread so effectively from arabia through asia and africa. praising islam, ways is saying, you not those who

follow the faith are the one who doesn't get it. >> we can also see now how the islamic state is crossing borders spreading from country to country, causing mayhem. we see how boko haram started in nigeria and is spreading now around that region causing mayhem. we know what al qaeda has done, it is time national and international, we know what the taliban do and have done. we know what the muslim brotherhood and through non-violence, i think that it is time that we stop kidding ourselves about islam being a religion of peace. we need to face the truth. there are very brave women and men within islam in muslim majority countries and the countries who are arguing for reform. i have put this five proposals

as a solution, if these people have a solution, let them put it on the table. >> it's interesting, at least now ayaan, you're getting blowback from the media, your life has actually been threatened repeatedly since you began to speak out about your experience with this faith, and that's left a lot of people uncomfortable and unhappy. it's great to see you as always good luck with the book by ayaan hirsi ali. two students on two college campuses have decided that one conservative speaker is so offensive, just the mention of her name could trigger an adverse reaction. we'll show you where that's playing out and who it is. plus gop candidates now talking guns and 2016 as a recent poll shows a stunning shift in public opinion on gun control and gun ownership. katie and leslie are next. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day.

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new developments in a high profile fight over gun laws and the white house. it started last week when the democratic mayor of milwaukee suggested that scott walker and republican lawmakers were to blame in a recent increase in gun violence in that city. a claim we asked governor walker about just yesterday. >> it's ridiculous, and the mayor who some forget was the candidate who ran both in the general election and the recall election has his own motives for doing that. it's a matter of enforcing them. we have criminals who do bad things, putting them behind bars, giving law-abiding citizens ts right to protect themselves through concealed carry or castle doctrine to protect themselves, loved ones, or property, it is appropriate. it's not law-abiding citizens seeking protection it's criminaling seeking to find illegal firearms.

>> governor walker defends his record, senator cruz was calling for laws for concealed carry on military bases. chris christie also used his time in the granted state which many consider to be his best option to get into this race to call for the quote right balance on gun laws. all of this is focussing new attention on a recent pew poll showing for the first time in decades, a huge shift in favor of gun ownership and away from gun control in the country. look at that. 52% believe that it is more important that they protect the right to own a gun than it is to control gun ownership. 52-46. how does this play in the 2016 campaign? joining us now, katie news editor and fox news contributor and leslie marshall, also a fox news contributor. katie, it's becoming an issue

for governor walker there, already the republican candidates are speaking to guns and making guns a specific issue in their campaign. is it likely to stay and who does it help and who does it hurt on the gop side? >> well megyn, gun control and gun rights are always a political topic no matter what campaign you're running. whether it's local or presidential. and it does play well to republicans because the majority of the country is on their side when it comes to protecting gun laws. hillary clinton's track record however, being married to bill clinton who of course has one of the most famous pieces of gun control legislation in history, who signed into law she's going to have a real problem with that. when it comes to this issue especially, this is very personal for people, gun control and the right to self-defense which is why people support gun rights and gun ownership is much like economics. it's very personal, decisions have to be made, and people are going out and buying their first guns, according to polling across the board, for

self-protection. >> there are some people who want to. hillary clinton won't go that far. she's not going out on that limb. let's amend the constitution to take away the amendment. that would be a deal-breaker for any politician. but you tell me leslie, whether this is just an issue for the gop primary or whether it lasts into the general election. more and more of republicans are getting focussed on it. >> i think this is preaching to the choir this is about the gop primary which one of them can wrap themselves in the flag of the nra if you will, and that second amendment, and i'm going to fight harder for you than anybody else, jeb bush talks about his record in florida, ted cruz is taking this campaign on a broader level, wanting to list that ban on military bases, and chris christie taking a moderate stance in new hampshire.

this is certainly not speaking to the independents of the centers won't play in the general election as abortion and gay marriage hasn't in the past. the economy is number one, still, for american voters, whether they're left right, undecided, or don't want to declare. that's what they're going to do. >> nra voters, people for whom gun rights are a main issue, they vote, they are motivated. they may not necessarily fall under the left wing, or maybe they are, maybe they aren't, i haven't looked at that. they're motivated. sort of like the seniors they will show up on election day. >> yeah. >> well the nra will certainly show up but to leslie's point about independents, actually independents with according to to this new pew polling are more now in favor of protecting gub rights rather than implementing more gun control. and the majority of americans, 60% plus believes that the best way to deter crime is by owning a firearm. and that goeses across all political spectrums not just a

right wing nra issue this is certainly an issue that bleeds into the middle and there's blue dog democrats who also believe in gun rights. it's not going to be an issue only if hillary clinton stays away because she knows is won't go her way. >> a few years back, he had an interview with sean hannity. sean asked him any issues on which you're a moderate or to the left, and his answer was, i favor some of the gun control measures we have in new jersey. he said bad idea, and he answered, defending it saying look this is how i see it look at it from a law enforcement perspective seeing how many police officers were killed we have an illegal gun problem in new jersey. when sean asked him should every citizen be able to get a licensed weapon he said that's not going to happen with the democratic legislature we have. and even suggested that he

wouldn't support it. so is this a problem for him? >> this is a problem for him with the core of the nra. it was an extremely right wing, right wing faction of the gop. it is not going to be a problem for him standing apart from the rest of the group. because he's the only one that's saying something different. so for those people that are disillusioned with the party of the past -- >> the way rubio was different on immigration, then when he decided about president, he wasn't so different all of the sudden. >> well, also, we have seen in the past whether it's romney or any other republican or democrat, that the party will rally around that person. what it comes down to is not just the poll. remember the poll sl based on people believing that crime is worse when it isn't and that they can defend themselves better against the crime that has not escalated, but rather been reduced by more than half at least in the '90s. >> your stupid if you're fearful.

>> no, no, no -- >> is this going to be their issue? is this going to be their issue, i do not believe it will be. it won't be the number one issue. >> katie says it will not serve them well. >> not at all. >> and new hampshire. >> majority of registered republican voters -- >> i love it when they keep talking. that's why we need an online show. i would lose you, anyway we're not going to do that. also tonight, police taking heat in two cases getting national attention. and up next, we have a kelly file investigation into the death of freddie gray. why six officers have been suspended, and what it may take to figure out what really happened here. plus we have new details in the case of a tulsa cop who shot a suspect by accident. see whether the new details support his case. when we come back.

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and developing tonight, the baltimore police department has now released the names of the six officers suspended following the death of a suspect. cell phone video captured the arrest of 25-year-old freddie gray back on april 12th. you see him helped into a place van. but by the time he arrived at the police station, he could not breathe, could not walk and he died one week later. trace gallagher in our west coast newsroom with the story, trace. >> megyn, so far nobody is

disputing the 25-year-old freddie gray died from injuries he sustained while in police custody. the investigation is focussed on how he got the injuries. there is video tape of the arrest, along with court documents saying that mr. gray, quote, fled unprovoked upon noticing police presence and that police found a knife clipped inside his front pant's pocket and he was arrested without force or incident. you can see as police drag him he appears to be having trouble walking. now listen to the deputy police commissioner. >> i know that when mr. gray was placed inside that van, he was able to talk, he was upset, and when mr. gray was taken out of that van, he could not talk and he could not breathe. >> police say they knew that he was having trouble breathing but paramedics were not called for 30 minutes. after gray was placed into the back of the van police put leg shackles on him, then stopped to pick up another suspect a metal barrier separated the

two suspects and there is no video inside the van. so exactly how freddie gray suffered 80% of his spinal severed is what this investigation is all about. keep in mind, police say the autopsy showed no physical trauma to his body, no evidence that excessive force was used. it is fully indicating that severe spinal injuries don't just happen, and they believe there is a lot more to this story. >> we want him charged with first-degree murder still this is a crime. they locked you up and throw away the key. >> the police are promising a full and transparent investigation critics are skeptical of police investigating themselves. megyn. >> trace, thank you. >> now, criminal defense attorney mark and arthur, fox news legal analyst. this, when i first heard he went into the van with the cops and

came out, you know with a severe spinal injury, i said oh obviously they did something to him. not necessarily, mark, not necessarily at all. >> yeah, i wouldn't jump to that conclusion. first of all there's someone else in that van. i don't know what went on in there when police were not in there. that's one option. and there's about 15 other options that i think the answer is we all wait. there's a concept we're not used to. zimmerman, ferguson everybody condemned the police, one person said this is the most egregious example of police brutality yet, where did they get those facts from? let's just wait and see what the autopsy and the investigation reveals. >> arthur the tape i mean, can you glean anything from the tape? >> well, you could glean that he could walk, well i don't know if you could glean that. >> i don't know. looks like he already doesn't have the use of his legs. >> it's hard to break it down. i mean, but what i believe what the police chief says is that he

was breathing, he asked for help, the help wasn't rendered. i'm not disagreeing with mark that we have to wait, but i don't think it was a bad move to suspend the officers right now, pending the outcome of the investigation. do disagree with mark if he's in the van, and he gets assaulted in the van by other people just arrested, that is on the police's back. they're supposed to protect someone especially someone who got arrested, anyone who gets arrested by -- >> arthur -- >> you can't let the spine gets severed. >> i'm talking about those who are alleging first of all this was police brutality, talking about those who are claiming that somehow there are criminal acts involved if for some. >> i don't know what kind of metal barrier. look at him, i think the argument that the protesters are

making this man was incapacitated by police prior to being put in the van. >> you know what -- >> help was not called. that is absolutely one of the options because there are other options consistent with innocence we need to hold off and let's see. >> let's move on. there's another case headlines. this is vol steer deputy police officer down in tulsa, oklahoma who are shot a man and killed him, he says accidentalally when he fired him. he fired at him with a gun instead of a taser. that volunteer deputy showed up in court today charged with murder, is it murder arthur? >> i believe he's being charged with manslaughter. which is lower than murder. he didn't intend to. >> he says he's not not guilty, he thought it was a taser he

shot a man. he killed him. >> it is a fake with, and at worst i believe it's negligence. manslaughter in that state requires culpable. >> this old guy shouldn't have been out there that's the worst decision. he made al huge mistake and it didn't rise to the level culpable negligence. >> megyn you just said this is something that happens once every blah, blah, blah, trained officers, someone who has a responsibility of carrying a weapon does not grab, go to grab. >> he did. >> what are you suggesting he was lying? >> he wasn't a real police officer, that's the problem.

he was a volunteer guy. >> he gave money to the police department. >> how is this more than just negligence, arthur? you have not answered that question. you have not answered my question. >> true negligence -- >> how? >> let me answer. >> a reasonable person would not operate, would not have that standard of care. it's based on megyn, it's based on what a reasonable person would do under the circumstances. what a reasonable police officer -- >> police officer, that's the dee. >> taser and grab his gun -- >> taser they said was kept in the vest. he reached to the wrong part of his body and pulled out a weapon. i want to correct myself, apparent lay 2012 article, they documented nine cases in which this happened dating over 12 years, 11 years, nine cases in 11 years. >> and megyn, the fact that he is so old the fact that he's

led an exemplary life, reserve officer of 2012 all of that will come into play as to whether jurors find this to be negligent, a big mistake which is what i think it is. versus a criminal act. >> that'll come into play at sentencing. but judge gives plea deal or a prosecutor. this case was accurately charged. >> okay. got to leave it at that. pleaded not guilty. always a pleasure. coming up students on two u.s. college campuses have decided that one conservative speaker is so offensive just the mention of her name could trigger an adverse reaction. the latest dispatch from cup cake nation, when we come back. if you suffer from a dry mouth then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? well, there is biotene specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants... biotene can provide soothing relief

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this week after a conservative author is invited to speak about sexual assault. some students suggest this woman's views are so offensive that just the mention of her name could trigger an adverse reaction. trace gaal ber live in the west -- gallagher live in the west coast newsroom. >> kristina hoffsummers is a conservative think tank. she spoke at georgetown university and last night at obearman college in ohio. it stems from the fact that she disagrees with the views of some students concerning sexual assault and the campus rape culture. so for her georgetown speech, instead of just not attending, students put up trigger warning signs outside the auditorium advising students the speech could contain discussions of sexual assault and may deny the experiences of survivors. the trigger warning also came with directions to a safe place for anyone who was traumatized by her view. the students not only protested

the speech, they got a jump on the trigger warning putting up signs days ahead of time for students who were traumatized by what she might say in the speech. there was also an article in the college newspaper saying quoting here, her talk is happening, let's pull together in the face of this violence and make our own space to support each other, after both speeches, she says this road goes two ways, listen. >> while they were creating safe spaces and giving trigger warnings, campus administration provided me with two police officers who were sort of my body guards. so i think they felt i wasn't very safe among the safe spacers. >> the college also held an alternate event for those who did not want to attend the speech. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers.

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