leland, great job tonight and everybody else. we go now to the family. >> it's 11:00 p.m now in baltimore. "hannity" mentioned the family is to begin a new conference in just a moment. this is live coverage. these are live pictures there, there is mayhem in west balance more where we are looking and in east baltimore. this is live in the late night hours we are expecting police news conference to begin almost immediately. during police news conference we are hoping we will get an explanation for why the police

are standing and watching this happen. we can only assume that police have reasons for standing back. do they not have enough manpower? do they not have the gourds? waiting for national guard? we simply do not know. we know the governor says that 30 second after the mayor of baltimore asked him to call up the national guard after 6:00 p.m. eastern tonight, that they did that. waiting for some 500 national guardman to come to baltimore from inside the state of maryland and another 5,000 from outside the state of maryland. at 10:00 tonight, one hour ago, the baltimore city police confirm shots were fired at an officer in the area of virginia avenue which is right here in west baltimore. the police report that officer was not hit even the suspect fled. 15 police officers were injured today according to the police. with school-aged children and class that began around 3:00 baltimore time this afternoon.

two officers remain in the hospital as of two hours ago. one listed as unresponsive. the number of arrests was listed as 27 but we hope to hear from police just moments from now. in addition waiting to hear from freddy gray's family who are shocked and horrified by what is going on tonight. freddy gray who died in circumstances unknown us to and we are waiting to hear from freddy gray's family as well in the city where police struggled to take control as the mayor put it thugs that want to insight violence. thugs, as you are watching running rampant in parts of is the city. these are scenes from a moment ago.

>> get down get back, get back. get up on the stairs. are you watching this, guys? are they watching this? >> coming back. >> are you watching this. >> we were indeed watching. and listening to political commentary and watching as all of this was unfolding. it appears as our understanding of what happened is these people stole a car and ran it through the fire. this fire eventually burned up the car. a live look on the street of baltimore now. west baltimore where the fire continued to burn in the last couple of hours. we also saw firefighters battling with a massive building fire. one of the few burning across the city. this one, five-story senior

center sponsored by a baptist church which is put up for the good of the community and burned tonight. it is the latest chapter in what turned out to be a day of unrest. baltimore's mayor announcing a 10:00 p.m. curfew that starts for reasons beyond us tomorrow. not tonight. a little reminder of how today's events have unfolded. when all of this started during our newscast some eight hours ago at 3:00 this afternoon, baltimore time large groups of juveniles. apparently just gotten out of school as cops called them. throwing rocks, bricks and other items at the officers. the officers some of them pick had up the rocks that were thrown at them. and threw them back at the rioters. police have been tweeting that rock throwing and bottle throwing it all still going on. they say more than a dozen officers hurt today. we told you 15 was the official number if police earlier. again a news conference to begin shortly. we hope to get updated numbers.

we witnessed rioters looting businesses and stores. store after store after store. we saw them outside and what we could not see because it was inside is the looting of the mall where all of this began. where store after store after store according to police was looted. the looters got there in their cars p. did their damage and left this their cars before police can return. police also tweeted some people even cut one of the fire department's hoses as crews were trying to put out the fire. leeland is back on the streets. when the news conferences begin we will take you there. now they are throwing again, leeland. >> these are liquor bottles they looted from about 150 yards in front of where the police are. the same place that all of those fires you saw burning. and also where you saw the car crash and everything else. i'm surprised there are liquor

bottles left because there has been so much walking out. they walked down threw them at the police and walked back. this is the same area we have seen this go on for a very long time. we have another police armor had car moving up here. dave and i have gotten off the sidewalk. what is interesting, and we got the police here. and they were treated at about 9:00 this evening. we started down here at this street corner where you see the burning cars that were crashed and there is a number of different businesses there. there is a mini mart two liquor stores. we talked to owners who were near tears at the fact that their stores had been looted. their livelihoods destroyed and residents around here feel the same way. the police line used to be at that corner right down there. there was a whole lot of police officers down there all the riot guys and at some point they were given the towardorder to retreat.

that's when they retreated back to where we are. as note fall has come, it has gotten increasingly violent and unpredictable. that's one of the reasons we are staying closer to the police. >> have police attempted to affect an arrest in any way? >> remember earlier we talked in the 8:00 hour and they arrested looters of the stores. there was a deals store looted. and the police had enough force that they were able to come in an arrest those looters. but 1s s, 3s, 4s, arrested. out here you have so many agitators and you're in a much more dense population. it is a lot more difficult for the police to react and whether they had been told not to and told who hold thier fire and this is a command decision made on the ground, we don't know. we will stay further back.

we talked to this guy right now, claiming he was beat by police a couple of weeks ago. he claims he has been a victim of the police. a lot of the folks we talk to around here claim the same thing. they say they have been victims of police violence or they know people who have been victims of police violence. at the same time the residents we have talked to say they don't think this type of violence and kul call it protesting if you want or rioting, is going to solve anything. they think their voices aren't going to be heard. obviously the folks that we talked to who are participating in these acts of violence tell us all we want is answers to freddy gray. you say, how is parties p pating this this activity either shouting at police or as can you see down there throwing more rocks and bottles. >> go to the live area if you would of that fire. the live areas of the fire demonstrateors throwing more and

more accelerants. as we do that the chopper pans out. i don't understand why police who are clearly heavily armed and clearly have their shields would allow this to continue. do you have a sense for why that -- the news conference by police delayed 15 minutes. you're not missing it. we will take that live the min tut happens. this is a remarkable scene. they clearly have the numbers here but they are not arresting. >> they clearly have the numbers. behind the police line you saw a whole lot more of those armored cars. but so far, at least, we haven't seen anything happen. the police line is parting right now. we will step back here because this guy is calling it up here. we don't know what he is doing but going towards the police or not. we will watch this. she is coming up here. police are pretty agitated by what is going on here. she is spinning around here. the police it appears, i don't

know if they heard us talking or something else but they are beginning a slow walk here. >> you wonder what they would have done if she would have crashed through the police line. >> i was thinking the same thing. looks like there is a fire truck coming through. conceivably that might be to put out fires that are down here. this is the car that police cars that have been pelted with everything it has come back up. check out this view here. that is the police car that is pelted. it is unusual to think you could pelt a police car with bottles of liquor that you have looted that they watch had you loot then the police car turns around and drives back the other way. obviously does not inspire much confidence here if the residents. that certainly is the sediment we have heard from them. they just don't trust the police. and they are very clearly at least tonight noting to anything. >> leeland, as we continue to watch, our senior analyst, is with us but judge, if i'm an

instigator or agitator or rioter and the police are doing nothing, i might feel i have a license. >> it is another thing for them to witness crimes and make no arrest which almost has the effect of encouraging it. they must know something we don't but it seems inexplicable to us. perhaps the same mentality that waited 24 hours before imposing the curfew. >> tell us about it leeland. >> the police have now moved up. you saw the two guys come up with their liquor bottles they have stolen. now the police are beginning their walk down. that is definitely tear gas popping off. and you can smell it an can you feel it. there is more looted liquor bottles flying here at the police. the police are making that slow march back down to where they were a couple of hours ago. where they were treated from.

maybe to put out fires. we have a couple fire trucks that have shown up here. it is an erie seen as you watch, you can see the looters run back down to where the liquor stores are. and as police line moved, we stayed up here on the stoop. sometimes you don't want to get if between those two groups. police have decided now suddenly to move forward. >> we've got a great view if the camera man can zoom in we watch as it unfold. >> you can watch it and hear it. you can hear them fire off beanbag rounds tear gas rounds. i haven't heard live ammunition. they are doing a great job under circumstances -- >> we. will keep watching.

the mior isy mayor is talking, we will listen to her. >> we will assemble resources. bring calm to the city. made sure we got the executive order right to give people enough time to know we were putting the curfew in place. we worked with the school system to make sure there was a daytime curfew in place and schools would be closed. a lot of ts to cross and is to dot. >> so some saying troops on the streets are aggravating the situation. are you worried about that? >> we will bring order. it is very clear that i am not interested in exacerbating the situation. my goal is to bring calm. but we will have order. and we will have peace. because there are too many of us in baltimore who believe that baltimore is much better than what you are seeing today. >>

>>. [ inaudible ] >> this particular fire is under investigation. [ inaudible ] >> we are responding to incidents all through out the city. this is a horrible incident that we certainly didn't want to see happen. but we are, like i said responding all over this city and we worked very hard to respond. >> do you regret that decision? >> i respect people's he right to protest. i never said nor would i ever say we are giving people space to destroy our city. my words should not be twisted. >> there you heard it. that the mayor --

>> as the mayor was speaking a car came and rushed towards the fire. couple around the fire in the center of the street and right into front of the line of police officers. it was a terrifying moment. leeland, to the degree your cameraman can zoom in on that we appreciate it. we appreciate all you are doing out there. it is clear the cops are moving in. >> they are moving in. what is interesting is that where they are right now is where they started at 9:00 tonight. they were treated and we saw over the past couple of hours what unfolded. which was looting. rioting. stolen cars being driven into crowds. it was a stunning couple of hours and why all of a sudden the police have decided to move down there and they brute their fire trucks to put out fires on these cars whether it is because it coincides with the news conference or thief been

given different representative orders that is something that will floi fly out. but it is interesting that the police watch this level of mayhem and the residents up and down the street that i talked to were ferociously angry that the police allowed this to happen. and the folks who own the stores are angry as well. we talked to a couple of them who are really hot. and now some of the stores are on foyer, the liquor store on the left. if we can push in a little bit above the fire truck, that's on foyer now. not only do we have the cars on fire we've fwot buildings on fire as well. >> and we also have a situation where if one of the speeding cars wants to it can ram knot police officers. not suggesting that such a thing would happen but you clearly have stores that are looted and people in cars that don't belong to them with the police line that is unprotected from the other side and a burning liquor store and recipe for disaster p. it is hard to imagine that a

great american city that was prepared for violence that warned a mall to close stores that warned a university to shut down this afternoon as it did at 1:00 that had a name that went through the internet starting at the mall and back downtown with all of that warning and all of that heads up that it took them until the 6:00 hour for the mayer to even ask for the call in and now 17 minutes past 11:00 at night. fires are burning all over the west of baltimore. cops are trying to retake grounds and we're waiting to hear from the police about how bad it is beyond the view of our cameras. it is truly an astounding night. there is no comparison between what happened here and what happened in furgason. it may look similar to you on television but in ferguson it was a two-block area. here we are talking about a large swath of the city.

western part of baltimore and eastern part of baltimore and kra chaos rains. in ferguson they quelled to stop the violence. here they are letting things go. we expect a news conference from the family of freddy gray who died in police custody. they have been calling for calm all day. steve dorsey is on the line with us. freelance reporter. sometimes works for fox news. said he is reporting in front of the cvs pharmacy. remember the one that burned this afternoon when somebody threw him to the ground. he just got out of the hospital in the last hour. steve, what happened? >> good evening. yeah i was struck in the face by a lone protester. he punched me in the right side of my face. i fell to the ground unexpected and he took my phone. was about to kick me as i was

down and a few other hitters intervened. and separate meg from him and helped me walk injured to a safe area where i could make it back it a local tv station to get some help. >> so it was bystander who saved you from worse? >> absolutely. it could have been much worse. i remember him, beginning to kick me and several other folks joined in like that mob mentality like we have been seeing all evening. >> i've been discharged from the hospital. i have an injured left knee. i have to get surgery ton. but i'm more concerned about the city of baltimore where i was born and raised. and let me tell you, there were a lot of injured people. nurses there el tell meg how busy and chaotic the emergency room was. i saw officers come in.

one had a sling on his left arm. >> steve dorsey out of the hospital tonight. hope you're well. >> all commenting about the same thing now when our mics aren't turned on and that's good police officer friend of mine from fork city texted me and said i can't believe they are trained to go forward in a straight line like the red coats in the 1700s. it was a tactic which a lot of police officers are not that familiar. frankly, it is not what they are trained to do. not around here. they are clearly trying to make a way for these firefighters to get past the police line and to the fire. but on the other side of the fires, are more demonstrators. leeland, it is not like they've gone anywhere have they. >> demonstrators certainly haven't. they have the upper hand here p.

they know the streets. and the policeman playing this very dangerous game, for lack after better term. almost like whack-a-mole. they get an area contained and then demonstrators pop up somewhere else. we don't know how many demonstrators there are. but we watch had stores being looted all afternoon. there were a lot of folks running outs of target and the dollar store and other places. with the five finger discount. there are a lot of people taking advantage. just a few instigators is not the case certainly here. and we have seen the crowd grow and that level of violence grow here. and we can see now that police have clearly cordoned off a much larger area and they have to. because of that liquor store being on fire. they had to be able to bring in the fire trucks. remember the fire started with just some burning chairs and those things. they then they added the cars. the liquor bottles they looted

and used as accelerant. the liquor they he didn't drink they set on fire. >> i have to cut you off leeland right now. our crew, rick and his crew, are also on scene. my understanding have been attacked on scene but rick is on the line with us. you guys are okay? >> yeah wp we're all fine. we were at fulton street and north avenue. a a couple of cars were on fire. we got out to report on the scene and there were a lot of people on the street who were very upset just at our being there. and we got harassed by some people and some people started following us an yelling at us and people started throwing bottles at us from infront of their homes. large bottles crashing at our feet. and it got really hairy. and the police were in a line focused on north avenue and not on what was happening on fulton. so we managed to make our way

back to our vehicle and get out. i want to say there are similar scenes of that in this area of west baltimore. some fires burning, you know most of the city is fine. we drove through downtown. it is very quiet and foin in most of baltimore. but this area is still hot. and there is a lot of people angry and a lot of people who are lashing out, not just to police but also at any media on the street. >> any of you injured, rick? >> no, we're all fine. >> i guess it happened quick and you didn't realize it was coming on you? >> our job is to cover what's happening. and we got out to do that. >> the vehicle, moved out camera and microphone and i'm happy to talk to these people why they are upset but they didn't want to talk. they just wanted to yell at us and start throwing things at us. so tehey he made it difficult for

us to do our job. >> when you get to a place where you can report let us know. whenland leeland. >> this is in the area where rick is at as well. we moved back and the very same thing that happened to rick happened us to. we had protesters coming up us to yelling at us getting in our face screaming at us. and rick makes a good point. the folks who did what you are looking at and caused this destruction, have never really articulated to us what they are angry about. it helps to get a sense of the amount of destruction that happened here on this street corner. we will walk up a little bit and see how far we can get out. this is our tobacco mini mart. that was looted overnight. then the other two street corners, you have liquor stores a. >> with well and he then the remnants of the fire obviously is the stole yn cars that were crashed into each other and

other things that are now at this corn he and the p em who caused all this have disappeared out into the streets a little bit. there is a number of back alleys around here from this main corner. h is sort of main and main best i can tell, in this part of baltimore. and now, the police have once again retaken their position here around this conner. and allowed the foyer department and everybody else to move in. this is the same thing you saw at 9:00. >> i would be interested to hear from those police about their level of frustration that they have to stand here an watch the thugs. >> you would certainly like any time i approached folks here in riot gear they have not been too keen on speaking and pretty keen on tell meg to get back. that's a challenge tonight in both getting information out of the police and understanding.

they put a car fire out. this thing has been burning for almost an hour or more out here in terms of the car fires. whether the police are held back or they made a tactical decision here opt ground i don't know. we've got interestingly enough if this is happening some of the folks throwing bottles now approaching the police line again yelling at them. we don't know whether we will see more of the same kind of violence that we've seen over the past couple of hours here. but clearly through out the night, as the police get tired and everything else the demonstrators here with the upper hand. these guys don't know the streets. they have no idea where they are and they don't know the tactical situation they are facing a not they don't know the score here. you put that combined with a lot

of firepower as you can tell they have and clearly a lot of anger on the streets. could you have a recipe for a dangerous, dangerous situation. not only the rest of tonight but over the next few days. clearly you would be surprised if this is the beginning middle and end. >> leland we will continue to watch your camera. as you gather facts on the ground we will talk to reporters from the baltimore sun newspaper. luke is one on the scene of one of those massive fires. i wonder if you can get anything from police whereabouts why they don't do anything. >> people come and taunt them. they don't attempt to arrest them. they just kind of take it. >> i think in the beginning of the night they were perhaps thinking that they were thinking about surprise at the

intensive of the crowd. a number of s.w.a.t. officers there. but that number wasn't enough. they began to take a rest. and there was some concern at some point as to who ran down alleys. getting caught in there. and i'll say this from reports of witnessing it, kids attacking police were much more fearless than the police. >> no doubt about that. we watched it live. playing out at about 3:15, 3:20 this afternoon. the young people overran the police and it happened fast. >> yeah it did. the city was caught off guard by this and now there is 5,000 police officers coming in from outside the city. the national guard is coming in. state police. there is going to be a massive show of force from what i understand.

a lot of city officers are extremely tired. that are needing relief from the outside agencies. there is still, i understand, a battle raging to the west of us. >> it is our understanding there is a battle raging as well. i wonder if anyone if anyone from the sun has been able to find out from the mayor why she waited until the 6:00 p.m. hour to call in for help. >> yeah, i don't know. about her strategy. i know that governor hogan did say he had to wait for the mayor but he said frankly that i believe he used a term that you know was about time. i think they thought the situation was under control. i can't speak for them. >> i didn't know they had been asked the question and given an answer.

>> i haven't had the opportunity to ask the mayor that directly yet. >> i haven't heard anyone else ask either. >> is it your sense that things are calming down now or is that this is not over yet from your reporting on the ground? >> depends on where you are in the city. things are moving around. things are calming down in some air yes, sir andreas and blowing up in others. they are setting cars on fire to the west. i expect this to go on for a while. i'm praying and hoping that it will resolve soon. but we see no indication of that so far. >> luke broadwater, reporter for the baltimore sun. i can tell that you the police news conference delayed from 11:00 eastern tonight is beginning now or about to begin. when we hear for the first words from the police of course we will take you there. earlier reports were 15 police officers injuried.

this was much earlier though. two of those still in hospital and it was our understanding that one may be more serious than the other. since then police are moving lines to croweate areas of quiet with you instead this sort of thing is happening. if there were further arrests, they haven't happened in front of our cameras. in front off our cameras, the mo of this night seems to be the rioters riot and throw things at police and police stand there and take it. and eventually they set things on fire or cause a bunch of problem answers the police go down to try to let the firefighters in to put out the fires. while they are putting out the fires, the bad guys go to another area, taunt the police and start more fires. that has been the cycle tonight. on the set with us as we wait to hear from the police department

i haven't seen anything like this. >> i have never watched police watch and observe a kroim crime scene. they are not stopping the crimes or eyearresting people. it is possible they have some grand strategy and they will implement that strategy. from our point of view from the point of view of people watching this, from a common sense point of view, this doesn't seem to serve any beneficial purpose. it is having the opposite effect. >> if you cleared this street you would not have lost the businesses to the thugs. these are business owners whose livelihood is attached. this isn't a cvs or some company with a big insurance policy these locals. >> the death of freddy gray was a tipping point but now these access like most mob actions takes on a live of its own.

blatant destruction with people who have nothing do with what caused this. i can't imagine if it wasp was happening in new york that the police would stand there and let it happen like this. >> i have seen a lot of things over the years and it never happened this way. leland the bad guys have gone somewhere else. baltimore sun suggesting they are moving west and setting more cars on fire. >> hard to tell how far they moved. to the west is where we are as well. in terms of the car fires -- >> an american city in state of emergency. >> you are looking at a live shot from baltimore maryland right now. police in riot gear blanket the streets at this hour. arson fires are burning throughout the city and tensions continue to smolder. maryland's governor is now declared a state of emergency

and called in the national guard. baltimore's police department asked for up to 5,000 additional cops. fire department is requesting additional manpower. come tuesday night this entire city will be under curfew and that means no one regardless of age will be allowed out on the street between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m. that will be the case for at least the remainder of the week. >> all of this follows one of the grimmest days in baltimore history triggered by the death of a young african-american freddy gray. he died earlier this month while in police custody and what city leaders are calling unprecedent street violence. part of baltimore is in chaos torching buildings with be setting police cars on fire and throwing bricks at police officers. at least two dozen people have been arrested. and late monday the mayor delivered a statement to the looters.

>> the rioting came hours after gray's funeral, his family said they are shocked by violence and are calling by calm and hope to organize a peace march later in the week. rick levanthal joins us with the latest. can you describe the scene right now? >> we are at the corner of mount and baker. can you see firefighters on the roof of the building. about 90 minutes good there was smoke pouring out of the front of the struck tower. firefighters arrived a few minutes later as flames poured out of that build pg. they were able to put it down but they are still up on the roof there. they just took an axe it a section. they are trying to get water on hot spots inside. this was a store, i'm told a corner store. there are homes right next to it and those homes have clearly been affected by the fire apparently started by looters.

ers lot ers looters who broke into the store and started a fire. the fire truck and firefighters were attacked as they were rolling here. this and other blazes.g cinder blocks. you can see the group on the corner. there was one standing on top of the truck moments ago. firefighters are attackeded as they try to respond to blazes being set by people in the neighborhoods. this is one of fume ras fours. we were at one a few ploks from here. couple of kr fires in the street when locals began throwing bottles at us. it is a tense situation on the streets of baltimore tonight. firefighters getting police protection as they work to put out some of the blazes. there are others we're told in the west baltimore area. as you mentioned, national guard is activated. we haven't seen troops on the

street but we're told they are out here. and state police and hundreds of others joined in baltimore city police department and trying to put down any disturbances that may erupt. as you know on streets of west baltimore tonight. >> when you think about the threat that this all started at 3:30 in the afternoon. and it is continued through out the night. where you are now. getting into early morning hours. and what went wrong. the police should have been prepared for this. they did prepare for it and you said in an earlier news conference they weren't prepared for the onslaught of looters who outnumbered them. they back aid way and held things in check. but they didn't check enough because so many things did go awry. >> i'm not going to second-guess how the police department or the city handled the situation, but i can tell you it did spy rl out of control quickly with a lot of locals and mostly young people

throwing rocks and bricks and other objects at police officers. we know at least 15 of them were injured. many with broken bones and several continued in the hospital. police officers were talking about hospitals and they postponed the orioles/white sox game. a number of stores were looted. cars burned. one note kelly and heather, this corner is a black away from where freddy gray was taken into custody and we're told that officers who took them into custody stopped at this corner to put leg irons on him. some locals toll us they had seen that activity on april 12th and freddy gray died one week later on april 19th. today we is la toyed rest. these disturbances happened after the funeral. what we saw on this corner is a blaze, fire apparently set by

locals after they looted what was a corner store. in /* inside that building. >> so many people were just shaking their heads as they lock at pictures unfold through out the day and evening. i want to ask you about the location there, if you can kind of tell us the location and in reference to the cvs that was put on fire earlier. and then the mall where they had gone in and done some looting. >> my understanding is the mall is less than a couple miles from where we are standing and cvs is closer than that. we had to make numerous detours. police if royiot gear blocked off streets. so just getting around is challenging because of burning vehicles s.w.a.t. teams and disturbances in the streets. most of the activity is centered in this west baltimore area.

west of downtown. we went through the downtown earlier tonight and it was very calm and very quiet. there is a city-wide curfew that takes effect tomorrow night for everyone working. the city has said it would enforce that so any teens that might be out and about could be taken into custody or at least sent home. but we are seeing people on the street and we are still seeing disturbances out here. >> rick earlier one of the fires there was allegation actually i think they had confirmed that some of the protesters or rioters had gone in and cut off one of those fire lines. water lines where they were trying to fight fires. were there any issues like that and what type of precautions are

they taking to provide that again. i know you have to move around there. >> apparently they were taking -- someone took a knife to one of the fire hoses and cut it open at an earlier fire. let's walk down this way. that's one of the reasons why baltimore city police are now accompanying these firefighters. to try and make sure that they are not affected in try doing their job. he is stuck on hoses here. he is trying to get out. so the police are here with firefighters. we haven't seen hoses cut here partly buzz because there are police on scene here. >> have things quieted down? >>uzz because there are police on scene here. >> have things quieted down?

>>zz because there are police on scene here. >> have things quieted down? >> because there are police on scene here. >> have things quieted down? >> because there are police on scene here. >> have things quieted down? >>because there are police on scene here. >> have things quieted down? >> calm is a relative term. let's go there way. i don't want to say we were attacked, but we had bottles thrown at us and people were harassing us. in the striets. very streets. very close tower location right now. we saw people at this location when we got here. one of the reasons we were able to report on this event is because we have security police and firefighters here. it is a more stable situation. when we were out on the street with no police officers to keep an eye on things people were very anxious for us to leave, put it that way. >> i had a reference to all these fires. i know they have to investigate to determine what caused them how they were started. are these rioters using like molotov cocktails? what is going on with all of these fires and how are they

starting them? >> i couldn't tell you. we were told that they had dwongone in and stole items and set the blaze. i don't know how they did it. i don't know how they started the fire at cvs or how they burned the cars. we saw two in the street. numerous cars were torched earlier. and the police officers under attack as well. again, 15 at least 15 police officers were injured by mostly by rocks and bricks thrown at them. and things in this particular area seem calmer. if you go to the other streets where the police aren't as prevalent, it might be a different situation. >> and that is a major concern right now, rick. what is going on in other sections of the city. east and west baltimore.

all of this stemming from 3:30 in the afternoon. that curfew going into effect tomorrow. many might question where that wasn't instituted today. we did hear and see people living in those communities. people there for 0 even 40 years, rick. they were frustrated to seeing rioters acting out violently and looting their own neighborhood. they seem to understand why but couldn't appreciate or they couldn't go along with that. saying this is wrong. it is not a reflection of balt baltimore and what baltimore wants to be as a clarmharmed city. and the charm has been tarnished. >> there is a lot of anger here a lot of anger. i spoke to a gentleman a short time a go who, i was surprised, i expected him because he lived here expressed outrage over

buildings burned and bottles thrown and police attacked. and he was adamant that this has been brewing for a long time. too many people have been abused by police officers. and he said that this was in essence pay back. he didn't endorse or condone the violence. but also he flood it. it is boiling over and one can only hope what things calm down and the presence of the national guard and police officers will help to calm things and perhaps city leaders can help calm things as well as clergy. but tonight at least things don't seem calm at all. >> they point to that as up with of the reasons for one of the causes but earlier in the footage we were watching leland is stuck in the middle and two different groups of people who were rioting and fighting each other. and so i mean are these the

different gangs we heard about or what is the story hyped that? do you know? >> well i don't know. we know there are heavy gang -- a heavy gang presence in this west baltimore area. and we also know that three gangs had earlier said they were linking to attacks on police officers and the baltimore police considered that a credible threat and we know that fbi is monitoring activity in this area and that police are on guard against attacks and we know police are under attack earlier today. it could have been from gang members or out of staters who come here and the protest against the freddy gray incident and it is tough to say. and police say they are looking at the video and they plan to make arrests.

>> the leaders of this city have to step in and try to stop the rioting from going on. earlier, baltimore mayor accused the news media of twisting her words. the mayor flatly denying she said anything that could be construed as giving protesters the okay to spread violence. let's listen to what she said earlier. >> i'm going to protect people's right to protest. the fact that people exploited that does not man i don't have the right to protect people's right to protest. i never said nor would i are say we are giving people's faith to destroy our city. my word shouldn't be twisted. >> that curfew is tomorrow night from 10:00 p.m. it will last at least a week. she was asked why the curfew

didn't go into effect until monday. >> we were working until around the clock to bring order. that's why i spent a big portion of the the day getting additional resources to bring calm to the city. making sure we got the executive order right to give people enough time to know we were putting the occur few in place p. and making sure that the daytime curfew was in place and schools are closed. and a lot of ts to cross and is to dot to make sure you we get it right. >> joining us ted williams former homicide detective. ted is very familiar with baltimore and ted, we -- you and i talked about ferguson when it erupted. one of the things we had a question was why it took so long for the governor to bring in the national guard back then. and we saw the violence erupt

and fires erupt. similar situation in baltimore. except baltimore is bigger and spread out over a larger region. what happened here? >> well you're absolutely right. baltimore is certainly a large city and quite larger than ferguson. but it appears to me that the city was very well on to prepare for what took place here tonight. this is not like this is the very first night of individuals in the city acting out. they've been acting out for several days now. and that should have been a precursor or warning that this could have erupted after the

burial hoorere of mr. freddy grace. i think not only was the city not prepared but i think you will find that luaw enforcement officers would have liked to take a more aggressive stance and i think from all indications there is some of what a stand down order and there is a situation where you need to be aggressive and take control of the city. when you find young thugs who found that police officer who are not taking control, these thugs decided it take control themselves. >> and ted, this of course takes away from the real ush u and that is what happened to freddy gray while he was in police custody. we still don't know. six police officers are suspended, with pay, i might add. we don't know what happened when

they arrested him. but we do know that he died from a severed spinal cord. >> kelly, you are really looking at this and i think that in the days to come that we will be investigations of what has taken place here and you're going to find that this is not about freddie gray. these are common thugs who are out acting out of their own personal reason. and then kelly, when you lock at it and you see how they have thrown these big rocks at law enforcement officers, by got to tell you viewers, way is there earlier this afternoon in baltimore. and unfortunately, i was in the middle of the riot area. there was no law enforcement

officers around. all of a sudden my automobile came under attack. and you know i've got many years in law enforcement. and i got to tell you, it was a very very scary moment for myself and -- >> i can imagine. but you're safe and well? >> yes. very much so. but kelly, this thing is out of control. i think the curfew should have been enacted tonight. i was there at the mall earlier, kelly, and i can tell you, we had a helicopters flying over. and there was someone in that helicopter that said over and over, this area has to be cleared. and guess what? it was cleared. so i think that when the mayor says that she wanted to send a signal or allow these young people to be prepared for what was going to happen tomorrow night, i find that disingeneral

uous. >> earlier, he said, we wanted for her to call and ask for assistance. we wanted her to. so i mean it was a little bit of a contentious moment, i guess you could say. he he didn't really place blame on the mayor but claim very close. >> i don't know if it is the mayor's call. i think the governor of the state of maryland just looking at television and seeing what was going on in one of his cities, should have went on ael pulled the trigger as he finally did irrespective of whether the mayor called for the national guard or not.

this was and is an out of control mile. and as a result of the act that occurred to you will be an active tomorrow night, this mob has taken advantage of the night and this mall. i can tell you, kelly and heather, they own the streets of baltimore baltimore. and this is an embarrassment. >> if there with a is a stand down order, who do you think issued that stand down order? >> it is hard to ou wonder if the bolt more commissioner and mayor, the question mark is are they on the same page. because you can see where law enforcement officers were being pelted with rocks and bottles and what they were doing was just standing there. taking it. moving back. instead of aggressively moving forward.

and i can tell you that it is something in all of the years i've been involve fled law enforcement, i've never seen law enforcement offices so dos do isle dos yil /* dos ill in situations where they should have been in control. i think you will hear they wanted to be more aggressive and they were give and why stand down order not to be so aggressive. >> the harsh realities is that wst and east baltimore and impoverished areas and the em who took to the streets to riot they have done themselves no favor at all in terms of attracting more attention to improve their lot, improve those areas. areas that you're very familiar with. i'm even very familiar with it being a resident of the state of maryland. this is shocking to so many good

people that live in maryland as well as enjoy's baltimore's finer attractions. like the inner city aarea. the aquarium. all of that has to receive a black eye now because of this incident. >> kelly, you're absolutely correct. and i think we need to understand that what we are witnessing here on the streets of baltimore tonight, this is not indicative of the good and great and citizens of baltimore. those people are now under siege themselves and you're absolutely right. there was a cvs tonight that i watched how they looted and now that was in their neighborhood. that cvs was a place where the elderly people in that neighborhood could go to get their prescription and now that burned down p. there with a a church burned down tonight.

and a portion of a church should i say. and that portion of the church that was burned down was an old folks home being built there by the church. they have done great harm to their own neighborhood. and there are people in these houses there siege, that were hoping that law enforcement officers that the national guard, would take bet are control and bring this matter under control. >> it is really going to take a hurricane katrina u leanne task to get things under control and find healing and rec on ceilation. the clergy oo of baltimore as well as civic leaders will have to do quite a work won't they? >> yeah, absolutely right. i've got to tell you kelly, they had already bought it. they were -- the clergy in baltimore got together a with a

lot of the leaders there. at one time definitively sad that what was happening in baltimore is outsiders coming in and cause what is happen is in baltimore. but what we are witnessing today is young people. young people who came out of the subways in baltimore and started throwing rocks at various law enforcement areas. it is going to take a long time kelly. >> what should we do in this situation? should the president come out tonight or first thing in the morning? would that help in. >> i i absolutely believe that if the leader and at some stage they called it and he will have to come out and make a statement. will it make a difference that is always the debatable.

because again, as i said have you individuals around here who have their own agenda. and when you lock at what we've learned and that is from the baltimore commission of police that the -- that the begins are the black gorilla group, crips and blood gotten together earlier and put up something saying that they wanted the skill of law enforcement officer. so i think that the president certainly as some say, you attorney general by the way, and there is definitely having to come out and have to make a statement and that support of the good citizens of baltimore maryland. >> all right, ted we will leave it there. thank you for your perspective and of course it is a very somber night for the people of baltimore as we continue to watch what is up folding there.

i want to thank ted williams as well as rick leventhal. a stark contrast it a funeral and then erupts in violence. >> yes. we will continue to follow it for you. burning. rioters try to destroy the city a destruction that seems to be without purpose. there are serious questions about whether this violence could have been prevented at least in part. after the mayor imposed a curfew that does not begin until tomorrow. welcome to the kelly file. we're live tonight, folks. scenes looked like something out of a war zone. people fanning flames that stretch across city streets.