ahead. what happened to freddie gray? we have inside exclusive video that will show you the looting taking place. also president obama's response from earlier today, where he missed the mark and more as we have one more hour to go this special edition of "hannity" coming up straight ahead. >> this is a fox news alert. police are trying to clear protestors off of the streets for protesting the death of freddie gray. the gray family fourn is with us. mr. murphy our deep condolences on the death of mr. gray. >> thank you very much. >> we don't know what happened to him. except that we do know that his spine was 80% separated from his neck and he passed away. we know at 8:39 in the morning he was on the streets he saw police and ran away. what have you been told?

>> we know more than that. we know that he died the first time in police custody, died twice. second thing we know is that he was injured in police custody, wasn't injured before the encounter. and third, his cries for help were ignored. and demands for medical attention ignored by police. we know he wasn't dealt with the in the vehicle. he was put in leg irons and put back in the vehicle a second time without being dealt with. and rendered him more helpless. >> did mr. gray have issue was his back or his neck prior to this incident? >> none that we know of. >> there has been internet

chatter he might have had an accident or operation. could you put rumors to rest tonight? >> absolutely. there is no such information. >> why did mr. gray run from the police? why would someone just see police and run? i don't think it's relevant in this case as much as whatever happened from the time he was arrested he should be treated with proper care and should have been given medical attention. but why did you run? do you know why? >> because he didn't want to have happen to him what happened to him. that is why a lot of black kids run. this is an objectless on. >> is it that sir? or he had a prior criminal record? does it have to do with his prior criminal record? >> let me finish my sentence the problem with freddie gray is that he didn't run if police fast enough. let's get that straight. but black people run from the police a lot. there is a history of police

brutality. now, i know you dispute that. but everybody else knows it's true. in baltimore, it's been especially true. there is a long record of settlements and verdicts against the police that did not result in positive change in the police department. >> sir, you're saying he ran from the police not every person and not every minority sees a cop at 8:39 in the morning and runs from the police he did have a record. of dealing drugs, including marijuana and heroin. is it he knew the police officers? do you think that contributed to that? >> i'm not going to speculate on any of that. i don't think it matters why he ran. because running from the police is not a crime. there is no such thing of running while black. or felony running? >> most people don't run from

police for no reason. >> you don't know that. there is a history of brutality in this community and city generally. >> yeah. so you're saying it's rational for every black young man in baltimore? you're saying? >> no. no. >> is that what you're saying? >> it depends on the situation. if you live in a neighborhood, like my client there, there is brutality, yes, it's rational to run from the police sean i invite you if you're black and police are white and there is a history of police violence in your neighborhood to stand there and wait for them to do it to you. i don't think you'd do that. you're too smart for that. >> the reality is that we don't know what happened from the time of the arrests he did ask for medical attention telling the police he had asthma and wanted his inhaler. >> no. no. more than that. what we saw --

>> sean -- you've had enough time to know what the police commissioner has said that the police did. what happened is that man was screaming in pain when put in the squad car. >> right. i'm trying to understand your complaint, though. >> wait just a second. he was screaming and crying in pain. that issue was never addressed by arresting officer. that is consistent with him being injured before being placed in the police vehicle. his legs were limp. his neck cocked to the side. and medical experts have opined when you have a spinal injury it doesn't manifest immediately. it takes time. so there is some evidence he was evidence he was injured before he was put into the squad car. you know sean a lot of black people get injured by the way they're arrested by white police you know that. why don't you own up to that? it's a phenomenon in america.

it's been going on 250 years. >> you're making an assumption. here is what i don't do. now, it's my turn to talk. >> i'm not assuming anything. >> now, it's my turn. here is what i learned being on radio and television all of these years you don't rush to judgment. you don't know for a fact what happened from the time he ran and time he was arrested we know certain facts but don't know what contributed to the spinal injury. hopefully, over time the police will have a full investigation, we'll have an autopsy report. you deserve an answer and his family deserves a answer too often, we rush to judgment. i'll give you one example. michael brown. robbed a store. intimidated a clerk. he tried to take a cop's gun he charged at police a narrative was advanced in this country hands up don't shoot.

eye witnesses, many happened to be black said that that never happened z i didn't rush to judgment. nor did i rush to judgment in richard jewel case or in the trayvon martin george zimmerman case we don't know. until we have facts, i think we should all wait for answers. you don't know. and i don't know right now what happened. >> sean very said that 100 times if i've said it once you sound like you've been listening to my press conferences. and when i said rushing to judgment can spoil everything. and so of course we need patience. we need to wait and see where the evidence goes. and this whether there is a prosecution or not should not be based on public opinion, but the evidence. i've cautioned everybody that we have wait until facts are gathered and we have this complete investigation that we can get, then only then make a

decision about whether someone ought to be prosecuted. >> you and i are in full agreement. we're in full agreement on this? >> of course. >> let me ask a tough question though. there is an arrest record depending on the different articles have i read 10-12 instances where mr. gray had been arrested marijuana selling heroin selling etc. are you saying that you don't think in any way, his past arrest record contributed to him running from the police at 8:39 a.m in the morning? >> sean you're asking me to speculate negatively or positively. i'm not going to do that. >> you don't think it could have contributed? >> it doesn't matter why he ran. what does it matter? police had adequate legal grounds to stop him. >> it's a legitimate we

question. >> it has nothing to do whether this man was a victim of police brutality. who cares? and we don't have the answers. >> there is a probable cause by arresting officers. in order to justify the statement committed. >> that clears the record. >> the agreement you and have is this. at 8:39 in the morning i don't think most people would see a cop and run unless they had something to hide. does that mean the police would be justified in using force against an individual?

and separating his spine from his neck? absolutely not. we need to have answers you need answers. the city of baltimore needs answers finish. >> the city of baltimore needs answers his family needs answers i'm waiting for them like you are. well so what is the beef? you said the only disagreement is whether or not his state of mind mattered in whether or not he should have been stopped or arrested. >> well you don't know what i don't know at this particular time and i will argue police have been really slow in getting the facts of the case out. they owe it to the community to get more information. i am not their special -- i

wasn't there. nor were you there. >> i take it -- >> to me a normal man isn't going to run from two officers just because they approached someone. >> there is no such thing as a normal person in the -- >> sure there it. >> no. it is normal in the black community which has a long hist rif police violence to be afraid of the police. i have trained my children. how to behave around the police so they don't be hurt and injured. >> do you tell your children to run? >> no. no. that depends on the circumstances. >> you tell your kids to run from the police? >> i have yes. >> run? >> if you're in the wrong neighborhood, get out of dodge. you don't want to be involved in the mentality of police in the wrong neighborhood. >> isn't that bad advice? you're creating a perception they may be doing something

wrong. why not just say -- because what i would teach my kids -- i teach my kids is yes, officer, no officer can i help you officer? to be polite. answer questions they have. if you're doing nothing wrong, 99% you'll be okay. there is that 1% of bad cops but not the majority of cops. >> sean you have no idea what the percentage of bad cops is. you don't. you haven't had the experience black people have had. you don't. you don't know. wait a minute. you don't know. >> you're making assumption most cops are bad. most are not bad i don't buy that. i don't buy into. >> sean you're not letting me talk. you interrupt every sentence i say. >> go ahead >> you don't need to paraphrase me. just listen. there is a percentage of police officer who's are bad cops. you say 1% say you don't know the percent.

but i think it's a significant percent, enough for the black community to be up in arms and say we've had enough. there is a long history of police misconduct in this country. it's become a part of the culture in the black community. >> i don't know what the percentage is. you don't know. i will concede there are cops that are not good but we also must concede a truth. in a lot of communities there is black on black crime. there is drug dealing. there is crime, there is gangs, there is misery there is mayhem. cops have a difficult job in communities where there are high crime rates they're job is to protect and serve under difficult circumstances it's not as easy as you say, some cops are bad, therefore, run away from them. >> sean you can't put words in my mouth.

. >> i don't put words in your mouth. >> do you concede we have a serious police brutality problem in the black community? if you don't, what is the point of talking further? >> i guess our realities are very different i don't want to turn on the television set and hear that 15 more kids were shot in chicago in black on black crime. i don't want to watch another drug deal go down in any city in america. that means no pot no heroin. >> i want to tell what you i don't want. >> the people going to clean it up front line defense is going to be police officers they may not be perfect, and some may be bad, most of them are good. >> here is what i'm going to tell you what i don't want. i don't want the right wing to ignore the plight of black children who happen to have bad parenting. i don't want the right wing to minimize police brutality. >> conservatives want education,

job creation. conservatives want government to police and protect the neighborhoods. >> conservatives don't want to help black kids. >> sir that, is an absolute lie. >> where is your evidence >> i know what a conservative racist is. >> this special edition of "hannity" continues.

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they're an enormous vehicle. this looks like a military surplus vehicle on the streets of baltimore. it's unbelievable the amount of firepower they've brought here. you can see it coming around as you count just how many we have here. you can see these tactical units driving throughout the streets saying they're going to arrest people if they don't abide by the curfew. there are still people here on the streets. these are the state troopers we've seen as well. we're going to walk past these gentlemen. you can see people on the street. that is what is unusual. this is a grocery store that wasn't looted. this is a church turned into a

medical center. remember those rubber bullets and tear gas, but we do have someone here a family standing here. do you mind if we talk to you just a moment? i'm leland vitterd. it's nice to meet you. why are you on the streets? >> would you talk to us? >> not interested in speaking now but thank you. >> not clear why. there are a lot of folks pretty interested in talking to us yesterday. folks out here would you be be willing to talk to us for a second? tell us why you're out here? or what you'd like? could we tell you what you're looking for? >> just want to -- >> see what happens? >> that seems to be the feeling here sean. >> thank you so much. >> we're going to have video of inside some of the stores looted. we'll get back and check in monitoring for breaking developments we'll check in with barack obama's response we'll get to

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thousands of mes are trying to clear the streets of remaining protestors. not everyone is going home. >> it's a real contrast using these nonlethal devices that were hurled in the direction of the remaining protestors on the left the cs gas, which is less of an irritant, then say, tear gas.

these are the new incarnations of the rubber bullet. it's like getting hit with a hard ball. they were effective in dispersing the crowd the thin blue line held. but the fox news team they were here last night, on the very same street and it was as you'll recall a much-different story sean then it seemed that baltimore was caught a day late and a dollar short. they knew they must have known, trouble was coming. it was telegraphed they didn't declare a state of emergency until well into the day. and into the evening. and as a result the baltimore cops were just outmanned, out outnumberered

outnumberered. it soon became clear people in the streets, the people looting the cvs and other, smaller shops destroying that senior center, that they were less interested in what happened to the tragic victim of that suspicious police arrest freddie gray the 25-year-old, less interested in making a point, profaning his memory in a way, by turning to as the president of the united states said today, they were just thieves stealing they were thugs in the words of the african american mayor of the community. that is a word almost like the "n" word used advisedly. she used it to describe the people destroying and upsetting and i tell you what sean i have seen these communities my first reporting job was

asberry park new jersey riots in that seaside community in 1970. it took every -- for 40 years, it's still not the flourishing community it was before the riots. i fear the same for this section of west baltimore. this community has gone through a trauma. it has, you know over 230 have been arrested. 20 cops injured, one critical. it will be a long time sean. >> sad part is that geraldo, very preventible. they should have seen this coming. we'll get back to you in a few minutes. leland, calmer than last night, leland. >> much, much calmer sean. it's due to the amount of police, it's shocking how many have come from so far away we have state troopers and the sheriff who came in from two and a half hours away brought a big

mrab. >> we're here at the request of the governor. they requested additional 600 police officers, ten armored vehicles, we responded at the request of the governor and have been here for a few days in baltimore city this, is ground 0. this is where it's takin and we've been standing here hard to believe, in front of memorial baptist church. those inside are prohibited giving outside of of the church having giving us the finger the entire time we're here. and giving law enforcement the middle finger here here to help restore normalcy to the city. and that is reception we get. generally speaking the citizens have been supportive by our presence, have had deep gratitude treating us with hospitality. it's just a particular area here tonight, that we're getting

reception we're getting from people here at a church. it's very very disheartening. >> people have been using the term agitators. vandals and looters and those kinds of things you've been here for the last couple days and last night, we saw such lawlessness in the city. now, all of a sudden things are, if you can use the word from chaotic to calm on the street. >> last night just rules no longer adhered to. anything would go. tonight we made it clear tonight we're not going to tolerate tonight what is tolerated last night. >> do you think that helped? >> absolutely it helped. >> we can see no fires, no looting. liquor stores. a couple people standing around on the street. is it -- do you ti it makes a difference whether they're arrested or not? >> absolutely.

it makes a big difference. there is a curfew. if you violate that, you're going to jail. >> i appreciate your service, your time. >> thank you. >> they're showing restraint down here and professionalism here sean. >> leland you've been showing a lot of courage in your reporting. thank you so much for your hard work. we appreciate it. when we come back president obama commented on the baltimore riots today. he had pointed words for police. we're going to play you comments and why i think he missed the mark. but first surveillance footage from a liquor store being looted last night. a video you'll see only here tonight on "hannity". delicious! and this new kibble blend is so healthy. thank you. no, nancy, thank you. kibbles 'n bits. because every bit matters. feel secure in your dentures... feel free to be yourself all day.

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how many businesses have been affected and what the extent of the damage s at this point it's tough say. >> i want to go back to looting video here. i see people are these mostly minority-owned businesses that you represent, sir? >> that is correct. korean owned businesses specifically. >> i'm watching this. you've seen the video. you've shared with us video for the first time. this guy looks like he has a sledge hammer. they wreck the store taking everything out of the stores we have these, we can identify all of these people. and we have the same type of video in ferguson missouri it was never used to find the people responsible. is that going to be the case in

baltimore? the same in ferguson? >> that is something that i can't speak to. at this point. you know, the store owners aren't as concerned about finding those responsible. they're reoccupied with protecting their businesses and and rebuilding their businesses so they haven't had a chance to think about how these folks are going to be apprehended >> do they have insurance? or going to be looking to the city for a lack prof teches last night? >> well my understanding is that most of the businesses are insured there are some that have heard from that dmot have insurance. you know at this point, business owners are concerned about protecting business and rebuilding their business. and they're preoccupied now. >> do they want to rebuild there? >> i think certainly. most business owners damage is

you know it varies. some have been gutted out. some have been just damaged slightly. but i think the goals is to rebuild. hopefully through insurance sh get the help they need to set their businesses back up. >> let's talk about the city because if you go back to city at camden yards there is every indication this is about to unfold. 2:00 3:00, in the afternoon rocks were thrown at police officers te saw what is building they didn't prepare for it. do you believe there is legal liability for these, for the city for not defending the streets of baltimore? >> sean at this point i'm not in a position to speak. since the crack of dawn this morning my office has been fielding calls from various business owners you know? >> but certainly you have an opinion. don't you think the city should

have been prepared in light of what we saw yesterday afternoon, and saturday? >> i'll be honest with you. i've been so preoccupied i have not had an opportunity to watch the news and what has been done or could have been done. maybe after reviewing more of the events i might form an opinion at that point, but at this point, no. >> so you weren't aware of the rock throwing? >> i have some knowledge but not enough to make an informed decision >> it's usually difficult to hold a city liable in a case like this legally. is there any precedence you think of in your mind where that has been a strategy? >> i'm not here to speak about legal issue was regards to the city. i'm here to represent the business owners and speak on their behalf >> i see peoples' dreams and

blood, sweat, and tears that you know that goes into building a business and financial burden on businesses now. they're going to lost money they're lost if they didn't have the proper level of insurance. but now, they're going from however many weeks or months to rebuild it. you know? how severe was damage from most of the clients? >> you know it's going to be a tough process the rebuilding is going to take weeks if not months what is interesting is that in the aftermath of the looting last night, many of the business owners reported to me folks in the neighborhood came out in the morning and expressed concerns helped clean up. we expect there will be support for neighborhood small businesses and hopefully part of the rebuild proing is hes. >> thank you for being with us our prayer goes out to business owners. it's very sad what they had to endure and what they will

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this is a fox news alert. we're awaiting a press conference in just a few minutes with many businesses now coming under attack during the mayhem one local business owner decided to take a stand. and armed himself with a baseball bat. tony good to see you. your store did not get looted correct? you stood out with a bat how many hours? >> for eight hours with axe handles me my brothers and my dogs >> how many people? >> three. and the dogs. >> and what kind of dog? >> south african mastiff. she's got an attitude.

>> well my dogs would bark and run away. how close is your restaurant to where violence took place? and where burning and looting took place? >> main problems were quite a ways away. they looted on my block the building next to me four gentlemen that owned that building, a music store, 40 years he was injured with broken glass. >> they stole a $4,000 instrument, right? >> yes. yes. >> so you're there. you were there as your neighbor's store was being looted and robbed? well at that point we would have tried to intervene had we been outside. at that point, it had grown dark. i was inside. and from what i saw.

>> right. >> and myself the dogs and then the lord. >> you're going to send them back home? >> did the looters know you were in there? >> i can only say me and my brothers standing outside all day, i guess that if anyone had seen us they must have known not to come in because they didn't. >> what a sad thing to see the police of baltimore last night. your thoughts about that? my guess is that they're told is to stand down. then the comments of your brilliant mayor saying we want to let them destroy areas and let them vent. what is your reaction to that? >> i saw at 2:00 first of all the police in baltimore are awesome. we've got a great force z great guys.

they were trying to do a job. their command failed them. the mayor failed them. they reacted very poorly because of that. and when i saw their line being breeched at 2:00 i sent employees home and told other people not to come in because i couldn't guarantee their safety z if the police couldn't guarantee their own safety they're like my kids and family. >> you're a man after my heart. >> sad moment. >> i'd like to think i would have done the same thing that you did. i'm glad you stood up for yourself and protected your place of bigs i only wish i am convinced, i agree, the police were told to stand down. because i have never seen police back off the way they did yesterday after cars being burned and all else breaking out yesterday. thank you, sir, i'm glad your business is up and running. >> thank you for having me.

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a fox news alert we join the baltimore police department in a press conference that just started moments ago. >> one officer had a drive by brandishing of a weapon. in the western district north of pennsylvania, in that area we've

had about approximately seven arrests. in the city, after curfew went up we've had ten total arrests. reports from the organization that we do not have a lot of activity or movement throughout the city as a whole. the curfew is working. as the mayor has called. one interesting thing is that i just had happen is that as i exited the building to go to a meeting today, we had close to 12-15 young adults waiting in line to become police officers at the baltimore police department. and in light of that activities and issues i asked them are you still willing and wanting? they were enthusiastic and excited about becoming members which says a lot. again tonight, i think the biggest thing is that citizens are safe. the city is stable. we hope to maintain it that way. we are going to place national guard at north and pennsylvania

probably two to tree block radius to stabilize that area and make sure everything is okay and residents are safe. are there a couple questions i can answer for you? i don't have information on that. we work in the southern district. we had a young leader out there who did a good job of responding in a peaceful way. they ended up arresting i believe about 3 to 4 juveniles down in that area. so i don't know about the injured officers but we'll follow up with you. >> there are various i'm trying to give you feed back on it without my glasses. in the central district we've had two for looting. in eastern district, one disorderly conduct. and then western district we had, i believe the vast majority for curfew violations, seven.

>> that is the baltimore police department saying ten arrests tonight and not a lot of movement on the ground at this hour. police saying the curfew is in fact working. joining me is the brown family attorney. there are parts and you know all of this could have been prevented had they taken the proper precautions based on what happened saturday and on sunday and early monday afternoon. but they didn't do it. >> the mayor and city politicians didn't listen. didn't listen to what the field commanders, the people that are going to be on the street wanted to do. they knew they'd have injured officers and lose control of the city.

that is what happened >> yes. well we go back and forth over this. we don't have details about what happened here. i talked with the attorney for freddie gray. he's trying to make the case it's a normal natural occurrence for a young black man to run from a police officer. do you agree with that? >> to some degree i do. there is a national tension that sometimes exists in law enforcement and african americans and mostly males, it's unfortunate, but one of the things we have to work on. >> so at 8:30 in the morning, if a police officer, two police officers on a bicycle are driving by your advice to your son is runway away? >> not necessarily. have you to understand your

reality is not my reality. >> what would you tell your son. two police officers are riding on their bicycles do you run from the cops? >> we don't know what happened there. we'll know more facts later. >> that is what the "baltimore sun" reported. mark furman someone with a record of drug dealing of marijuana and he takes off. is that probable cause? >> well it is not probable. and mean everybody can run. from what he know it's 8:30 in

the morning. he starts beating feet as soon as he sees police he was probably holding and probably threw the pills when he was running away. maybe that is what happened. maybe that is why he split. if officers didn't see that i hear the attorney chiming in. of course he doesn't know. and i'm not -- >> i'm saying it's i just said i agree with you. i'm saying -- if they don't have the probable cause -- >> we're on a break we'll continue. >> that they can't. make contact. dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. it has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. for gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works! mmm mmm live the regular life.

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ainsley and then of course our friends on fox and friends will get you started in the morning we'll have continuing coverage throughout the night. on fox news channel. eric sean takes over. have a great night. >> thank you, sean this, is a fox news alert. the curfew now appears to be holding. 2000 national guard troops and a thousand police officers as we've been reporting on the streets of baltimore. that curfew started two hours ago. 10:00 p.m eastern time running for five more hours, until 5:00 this morning. maryland governor also said combined force will not tolerate violence or looting. today protestors were mostly peaceful. but tempers have been flaring since the sun went down. bricks thrown at police. injuring at least