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and my browning over-under when you stop traveling without armed security. i didn't think so right. that's what i thought. liberalism can be hazardous to your health. have a safe weekend, everybody. police awaiting protesters gathering this hour for what is expected to be a massive rally in baltimore. a day after the six police officers who arrested freddie gray faced multiple felony charges. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's news headquarters." >> a city you might say in disbelief because they woke up this morning to the front page of "the baltimore sun." seeing something they never thought they would. mug shots of police officers charged in the death of one of their suspects. city hall today resembles an armed camp. the national guard on stand by. law enforcement officers from around the mid-atlantic have
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converged here for what is certain to be a loud and, we hope peaceful protest, of between 5,000 and 10,000 people. yesterday, the streets of baltimore were filled with roving parades and celebrations across this city. announcement there were a number of police officers involved and charged in the death freddie gray. a number shouting "f the po-po" as they taunted police officers. this morning, those police officers three white, three black, are out on bail. the police union is crying foul. others say it is a rush to judgment. but they are all charged with felonies. at least one charged with second degree depraved homicide. he faces 63 years in prison. if you're wondering, he is one of the black officers. this all started earlier last month with what you might say normal morning here in baltimore. a young black man, 25-year-old
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freddie gray. looked at some police officers standing on the corner and ran away. they chased after him, he was arrested thrown in the back of a police wagon. about an hour later, it was known he had suffered what would become fatal injuries. there are, of course a lot of questions. perhaps now even more questions than answers about not only the death of freddie gray but about the prosecutor in this case and the decision to bring these charges. is the prosecutor more worried about justice or more worried about politics and her career? what happens next not only legally but to this city that has been rocked by violence over the past week? for answers to some of those questions, we bring in a former maryland law enforcement official and now a talk show host in washington, d.c. i have heard from a number of police officers terms like thrown under the bus. this could have happened to any of us. this is a rush to judgment. are you convinced that this is a clean fair pressing of charges or you think there may be
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politics to play here? >> based on what i heard about the investigation which is of course through the media, it certainly appears there is a significant foundation for charges here. >> you can't deny yesterday maryland mosby giving her speech she sounded an awful lot like a politician. saying i have heard your call. i am answering your call. for no justice no peace. that doesn't sound like someone who's thoughtfully and soberly looked through the facts. she only had 24 hours to review the police report. >> let's not forget she is an elected official. to say she sounds like an elected politician would be fairly redundant. when she ran, one of the issues here in baltimore was police violence and the feeling that there was no accountability. part of her platform was that there would be police accountability. >> let's talk about some of the issues here in maryland. as it relates to the police. so many folks across the country don't really understand the anger we're seeing on the streets and we've seen since
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monday here when the rioting really took off. you're from baltimore. you were a member of the law enforcement community here in maryland. why is there such hose stlt towards the police here black or white? >> because of the history in baltimore. eight or nine months ago, we had a gentleman named tyrone west who was dragged out, beaten to death, and there was no prosecution. there's been a long history in baltimore. >> so this has been building? >> right. freddie gray, you know this is not the disease, this is a symptom of the disease. can't say for sure if we can blame law enforcement or the people who are in charge who didn't hold the law enforcement officials accountable at the time. i think there's some shared responsibility here for this. >> you talk about shared responsibility. one of the people at the center of this has been the mayor. she has caught a lot of flak not only here in baltimore but around the country, for a number of things one of which we reported which was the order to stand down on saturday sunday
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and monday. in her words, it was told to me let them loot it's only property to blow off steam, give people freedom to destroy. there was a lot of destruction in the city. do you think that helped things as we came from the funeral to now the charges, or has that made things worse here in this city? >> that's a good question. i can't say it's made things better or worse. i think once you throw a match on a gasoline it's going to explode. however, to be honest i do have some problems with the mayor. over the last several years, the mayor has signed about six or $7 million in checks for police officers involved in various assault. chaos. basically. and this is taxpayer's money. an officer would be involved in some type of activity where someone could be hurt. the city didn't -- couldn't have any way of defending it because they were so obviously wrong. yet she never saw that there was a problem that needed to be addressed before this. >> i want to get to that issue in terms of the problem with the police department.
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i also want to talk about police morale in the city of baltimore and maryland. what message has occurred over the past 10 or 12 days? do you feel as you've talked to police officers around here your old friends, are they sitting here going, are they feeling beat up feeling good about their jobs? >> i've gotten mixed messages. there are certainly officers who have a tendonency of circling the wagons. kind offending them. i ferd other officers who were embarrassed. who looked at it and said this clearly is an illegal arrest. >> one of the things i've heard from police officers here they say, look this is a situation where you had a man who, for all we know committed no crime that can be articulated by the police officers here. somehow ended up dead an hour later. something went wrong. there might be some need for some accountability. we'll let liz take it from here.
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>> thank you, leeland, we appreciate it. a massive march now called a victory rally is set to make its way through the streets of baltimore. residents are celebrating a decision by the state's attorney. as we know to charge six police officers in the death of freddie gray. doug is live in baltimore with the latest on this rally. >> hi elizabeth. we're standing about 100 yards closer to the city hall building than where leeland is situated right now. this is a police barrier blocking off city hall. maryland state troopers just behind that. we've got maryland transportation authority police this way. some national guard members further down that way. if you can see any of the guard members resting against their humvees there, you'll notice they are heavily armed today with m-4 rifles standard military issue. a little further to the right is where the dignitaryies will be standing. just who they are, we don't yet know. the rally itself is being headed
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up by malik shabaz. back to the guardsmen, keeping a fairly low profile. today, one of them told me for the first time those weapons are actually loaded with live rounds. two steps short of being capable of firing. they're not charged. you have to pull back a lever to put a round in the chamber. then you still have the safety on after that. most importantly, these guys are under very strict orders not to fire at anybody unless their lives are in imminent danger. let's walk on down here and get you another -- some more flavor of what's going on here. this has taken on the celeb celebratory atmosphere. music playing. people dancing in the plaza here. and it is as you called it a victory march. the marchers are headed this way. it's poorly organized. we don't know when they will arrive. leeland said 5,000 people. i've heard 10,000 to 15,000
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perhaps. now malik sulu shabaz who's heading up this rally has a bit of checkered reputation you might say. viewers in the washington, d.c. area will know what i'm talking about. he has a reputation for rabble-rousing. the southern poverty law center says this about shabaz quote, a racist black nationalist with a long and well-documented history of violently anti-semitic remarks and accusations about the inherrant evil of white people particularly skilled at arc straighting pro-active protest. we're trying to determine what the march route is. it's a concern because if police don't know they can't control the crowd as well. they'll be watching very closely and it bears in mind to harken back to last saturday's march which was also headed up by shab as he lost control of that crowd. a fraction of it dispersed into the inner harbor, where the os
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where playing their game and started trashing some businesses there. hopefully, we won't see a repeat. certainly, the law enforcement contingent is much better armed and more proactive. elizabeth, back to you. >> we'll check in with you later on today. now, here to break down the charges of the six officers that the six officers are facing former prosecutor nima hadida. rebecca, i want to start with you. do you think these charges are too harsh? >> well there's too many too many officers and there's too many counts and it's a sweeping amount of charges that are going to be extremely difficult to prove every element and every count against every officer. and i believe that it was possibly done to appease the crowd and possibly done to have police officers roll over on
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each other. because there's no way to be able to tell who did what when and where and every element has to be proved on every count against every officer beyond a reasonable doubt. >> i want to hear from you, because i know you feel these charges are appropriate. >> i don't think there was a rush to judgment. there was a careful investigation done. i believe this indictment will send the message nobody is above the law. >> rebecca, you have been practicing law in the state of maryland and when we hear the charge against the driver murder it's a jarring charge. and you feel as if maybe the state prosecutor's overstepping her boundaries here? >> i do. she went above and beyond what she should have done. she acted like an advocate. she spoke to the crowd, you want peace, here's your peace. you want accountability here's accountability. and to the youth, this is your
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moment. she also violated the code of ethics. she gave much too much information. poisoned the jury pool. and it's a problem. she is not an advocate she's a prosecutor. and she did much too much pretrial. >> all right, now, going forward, nima you heard rebecca say she's overstepping her boundaries. do you think there are tactics coming into play? do you think perhaps we'll see officers getting pitted against officers? >> you know we don't know. we don't have the specifics to this case. but one thing we do know the prosecutor should not set forth charges unless there's sufficient probable cause that the people being charged can and will be held responsible. >> i know my colleague leeland wants to step in. do you have a question? >> i did, elizabeth, for rebecca. in the sense that you have noted that the prosecutor seems to in some ways in the words of
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folks, been playing more politician than law enforcement officer here in terms of the information she's given in the case in terms of some of her statements where she said i've heard your call for no justice, no peace, during her press conference. there's a lot of accusations of conflicts of interest. are we already at the point where this could be an issue that the defense lawyers could use either on appeal either to demand a special prosecutor perhaps a change of venue? has it reached to that level yet? >> i believe that the jury pool is poisoned. and the ada and the code of professional responsibility for prosecutors clearly set out what is allowed pretrial and she's violated that. clear as day. to i believe she really does have a problem there. i know that prosecutors are never allowed to charge something that they don't believe that they can prove. but unfortunately, it's done all the time. we have murder charges here and an individual who is driving the
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van, but there's five stops and in each stop different police officers come in. so there's no way to prove when the injury happened. was during arrest? was it during the dragging? was it during the van ride? i mean it's a problem. i know a lot of people have also talked about the financial contribution that mr. murphy made but i don't find that to be a conflict because either single defense attorney always contributes to the prosecutor. so that's not a problem that you've recently talked about. >> thank you both for joining us. still ahead, it's being called a breakthrough in punishing those who retaliate against whistleblowers within the department of veterans affairs. but could it back fire? up next congress miller to talk about the bill he sponsored. plus lois learner may have some explaining to do as thousands of missing irs e-mails turn up and are now being scoured over by a congressional committee.
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the chairman of the house veterans affairs committee is working to ensure the safety of those who want to speak out about issues within the va. you may remember last year we learned about a number of whistleblowers within va medical facilities speaking out, saying veterans were facing huge delays in care being covered up by paperwork. congressman jeff miller is chairman of the house committee on veterans affairs and joins us now about a new proposed bill,
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protecting whistleblowers. thank you, congressman, for joining us today. >> thank you for bringing some attention to this important issue. >> of course. and for our viewers at home who may not be familiar with this bill can you tell me what it does to protect whistleblowers going forward? >> most important thing, it gives a very rapid response requirement for their superiors to determine whether or not their claim has merit, much like the marines do with their claims and if it's a person that's a superior doesn't thing they have merit, they can take it above them. unfortunately, the va has buried many of these claims and we've seen consequences. >> would they have been protected if this bill were in place? >> well va will tell you their procedure texted today but the fact is they've paid over $1
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million in recent claims for people who have been whistleblower whistleblowers. even today va will not tell me whether or not the people who made the retaliation are going to be punished or if they have been punished. >> what evidence are you seeing today where whistleblowers are being punished? there's some reports brought to our attention. what are you seeing? >> you're seeing all kinds of retaliation where physicians are being moved from their officers being put in basement offices without windows. you have a report out of puerto rico where the va is trying to force the identity of a whistleblower to be made known. be an possibly could find that whistleblower as much as $20,000. again, the secretary has said and the president has said whistleblowers are important. i agree. but they should not be able to be retaliated against by their superiors. >> to be fair you are getting
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reaction from the vavt and they have released a statement in response to your bill. it says we believe the specific whistleblower exposure and protection procedures provided by this bill would be unworkable. the decision also duplicate progras created to address claim also of improper retaliation in the workplace. what's your response to the va not supporting you on this. >> the va has fought us on every turn. if you go back to april when we exposed the wait time issue, it was whistleblowers who brought this forward. the undersecretary in a hearing on capitol hill said it was nothing more than a kur toughle. so whistleblowers have been trying to get their voices heard heard. many have been retaliated against. va wants to keep the status quo. we're not going to allow the
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status quo anymore. look, the president had said this is going to be a transparent administration accountability is going to be the key word and we've seen neither. >> my last question though is do you need the va's support on this? >> oh no we don't need the va's support. we need the american people's support. we need the employees at the department of veterans affairs support. this is not an attempt in any way to harm whistleblowers out there. it's to encourage them to come forward. in fact tell what's happening within the system. because va in many instances is not letting anybody else know. in fact they're covering many of the issues up. >> thank you for joining us. be sure to keep us posted on the progrm. >> thank you, elizabeth. across the pond this morning, a huge announcement. royal fans and media are camping outside a hospital hoping to catch a glimpse of the new royal
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baby. a town crier revealing the dutch and duchess of cambridge welcomed a healthy baby girl. amy kellogg is live outside st. mary's hospital in london with all the new royal baby details. >> reporter: hi elizabeth. we're state waiting for a glimpse of the little princess. we finally got a glimpse of the very proud father and the very bewildered little brother who is inside now meeting his little sister. it was a radiant prince will the duke of cambridge, who emerged a couple of hours ago, just looking so happy, saying in fact he was very happy, and he was off to collect prince george. he was back in no time. got out of his range rover. of course he went with police escort so it was a very quick buzz over to kensington palace to pick up his little son, 20 months old now, and then he wanted to have prince george
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walk into the hospital but prince george of course saying -- not knowing why there was this massive media presence all of these people and cameras standing outside the hospital looked bewildered. dad scooped him up and they posed for the cameras outside the hospital on the private maternity wing here at the hospital. they went in. what we don't know is whether or not they will be emerging tonight as a family to go home or whether the duchess will spend the night with her little daughter here at the lindo wing. we have seen sniffer dogs going back and forth, if that means anything. there have been -- there's been a lot of joy and celebration around town. there's an easel which is very important to point out outside buckingham palace now announcing the birth which happened at 8:34 this morning. the way they put it here in britain is her royal highness duchess of cambridge was delivered of a daughter, 8:34
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this morning, weighing 8 pounds 3 ounces no name as yet. the royal namevy honored the birth by spelling out sister on the deck of hms lancaster and the british telecom tower has a sign on it saying it is a girl. now, there were some hints of course. people were convinced that it would be a girl. but we didn't have any inside knowledge. however, people were noting either time they saw kate middleton, the duchess, in pink, which she wore quite a lot during her pregnancy. they thought that was some sort of signal. the queen today wearing pink herself. presumably as a tribute to her new granddaughter. this is her fifth great grandchild. waiting on a name and waiting to see the very newborn baby and the duchess of cambridge hopefully later. elizabeth, back to you. >> it's nice to have some good news. thank you very much. now, i'll toss it over to my
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colleague who is still at city hall in baltimore. leeland. >> folks continue to gather here at city hall. why have a march for justice after the police officers have already been charged? and so much has been made about race in this case. a young black man dead and for the first time we have learned the races of the officers involved. three white officers. but three black officers as well. what to make of that. does it make a difference. and as we go to break, today, from baltimore, thoughts of the gray family on the arrests. >> we are satisfied with the charges. these charges are an important step in getting justice for freddie. and we ask that whoever come to our city a city that we love a city that we live in, come in peace.
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live back in baltimore. folks continue to converge here on city hall for what is described as a massive celebration/victory rally, if you will as protesters are quite happy that six officers have been charged in the death of freddie gray three black, three white. it has brought up a lot of questions, including questions of rush to judgment by the prosecutor in this case maryland mosby. clearly an ambitious young woman. a politician here in town. there's also a lot of questions about why is this festival-like atmosphere going on which -- in what is no question an undoubtedly tragic situation. the death of a young man. and unquestionably a difficult situation for the three officers involved. we met edwin out at the protest yesterday. i thought he had some interesting things to say. a lot of discussion about three black officers three white officers and the officer charged with the most serious crime is black. does it make a difference?
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>> i don't think it makes a difference. at the end of the day, justice needs to be served and, yeah it doesn't make a difference to me. i'd be very interested to see what happened prior to that because as soon as he got -- he had a lot of trouble getting into the van so it seems to me he was -- >> you think there's a chance they may have charged the wrong officer with the worst crime in this case? >> possibly. but, you know, let's see what happens. >> as i've walked around the streets here i have met a lot of folks who have suddenly become experts in forensic pathology in terms of what the video showed and this showed. everyone i talked to yesterday had already convicted officers. if we could go back to hangings on the courthouse step i think a lot of folks would have been happy. these officers no matter what they've done are entitled to a fair trial. can they get it in baltimore? everybody i've talked to is ready to convict them. >> that's a very good question.
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i think that they will get a fair trial here in baltimore. baltimore is all about giving people a fair trial and justice, you know will be served one way or another. >> despite the feelings on the street? >> despite the feelings on the street. >> we sure appreciate your thoughts. stay close. we may come back ton you. with that, we will send it back to you. as folks continue to gather here. i will say this there's celebration, but there's still a lot of anger here on the streets. >> thank you, we'll check back with you. we appreciate it. flipping gears here after months of being told that former irs official lois learner's e-mails have been lost forever, thousands have been found. the inspector general investigating the agency's scrutiny of conservative groups found thousands of e-mails between 2004 and 2013. could this be a major breakthrough in the case? mark hemingway is a senior writer for the weekly standard. he has been following this case very closely.
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you've been following it from the very beginning. >> it's been two years now. one of the interesting things about this it's just that everything about the time line of the scandal thus far just suggests the irs just simply can't be trusted and isn't telling the truth. they discovered 6,000 new e-mails that again, weren't supposed to exist. that comes on top of the 424 backup tapes of e-mails they found back in february that weren't supposed to exist. comes off of no less than 20 different hard drive crashes from different irs employees. the treasury department inspector general says there may be potential criminal activity because he found the e-mail in part because the irs withheld a document they were supposed to give him. >> how did they find it and the irs didn't? >> that's a good question. i don't know what sleuthing the ig did but clearly they're doing their job here. it's tack between years to get to this point.
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we should have had these right away announcing their own wrongdoing in this okay we think it would be obligated to, you know once they fessed up to say here's how we're going to right a wrong. but they've not done it. the recovery of these e-mails contradict testimony that the head of the irs has given to congress. >> so how many e-mails are we looking at? i know we have 6,400. we're looking at between 2010 and 2011. >> i think there are something like 600 that are directly relevant to the time period in question just in this latest batch of e-mails we discovered in the last week. in total, it could take years to sort out. all of the content of these e-mails. again, it's even more infuriating they keep stone walling. >> what can we expect as someone who's been following this? what's the next step? they have a lot of e-mails to go through.
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>> the republicans have not been banging the drum on this politically. they've methodically drawn this out over two years, the investigation. i think they have every right. i'm hearing some rumbling from congress they might expand the investigation into the irs. to include things like looking at whether or not audits were politically targeted. if the irs bachlks at that what are they going to say? they haven't done anything to generate good will in this investigation. and there's funds that have recently filed a lawsuit because they were denied their request to look at how the irs treated churches. there's going to be continued pressure from all sides. i think in order to get to the bottom we have to expand this. >> we heard from the irs. they released a statement after the news was released about these new e-mails. and i want to get your reaction. it said we welcome the inspector general's recovery of these lois learner e-mails. this is an encouraging development that will help resolve remaining questions and dispel uncertainty surrounding
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the e-mails. what's your reaction from someone who's been beating down the door for two years? >> again, it's a very sort of tepid response. good for them. glad they're not, you know, putting a thumb in the eye of congress. but, again, there's every evidence -- their every indication the irs could have done a lot more to cough up these e-mails a lot sooner. you'd think they would be a lot more humble and more responsive than they have been. >> has anyone at the irs been punished? >> not that i know of. you have to bear in mind with the way federal unions the strength of federal unions and the way the federal workforce is structured it's darn near impossible to punish federal employees for even gross wrongdoing. entire federal agencies go years without firing people for cause. >> we appreciate your coverage. we'll continue to follow your work. >> thank you for having me. >> thanks mark appreciate it. still to come with the death penalty trial of the
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it's been one week since the devastating earthquake hit nepal. today the pentagon says they're sending marines based in japan to help the country with disaster relief operations. thousands are still missing. supply trucks are having a hard time delivering food to remote
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towns. p many of the roads are destroyed. residents of one mountain village haven't seen any aid at all. >> we managed to get the children out safely but there's no place to sit in the house. there's no food to eat. and we can't even ask anyone for food or help because everyone has met the same fate. when they get hungry children keep asking for food and we don't know what to do or what to tell them. >> nepal's government is appealing to international donors to send food and tents for shelter. new developments to tell you about in the death penalty trial of boston marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. testimony has turned to the wife of tamberlin tsarnaev and what she knew in the days leading up
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to the attack. thank you very much for joining us. >> absolutely. >> what can you tell us about catherine? what have you learned about her? >> catherine was a college student and dropped out her junior year when she got pregnant with tamerlynn's child. they lived in cambridge for a while, in the same house where -- there's been some evidence they built the bombs in that same house. she was a home health worker. she was out making money for the family while tamerlan was online watching videos of jihadi material. it's questionable how she was involved in the case. >> is there any evidence she was doing some research or that she was -- any evidence that she knew about what was going on basically? >> it's not exactly clear but she did google rewards for wife of mujahadin. and that's a term for a muslim like a holy warrior. she also googled if your husband becomes a jahid, which is another term what are the
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rewards for you. it's like these two google searches are some evidence that she was aware -- some sort but it's not really that clear. it's a big question for the case and for the defendants and prosecutors. >> you haven't seen or heard from her during this trial, during dzhokhar tsarnaev's trial, correct? >> right, she's not been called to be a witness or been charged with anything. >> you have learned a little more about her and her relationship with the boys is that right? >> say that again? so her mother testified and her friend testified so that's how we know -- >> what did we learn from -- >> sorry. >> yes, so her mother testified that she wasn't a huge fan -- not that she was an anti-islam but she wasn't a huge fan of the whole package. so her daughter karim ma started wearing a hajib, started becoming more conservative insisting that everyone convert to islam. and the mother said she became less like herself. there's some questions.
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>> has her attorney spoken out at all? >> her attorney spoke to the globe and said he really wasn't sure if there would be charges coming. so it's really a question not just for witnesses, the media, but for her own lawyer isn't sure whether she'll be charged with some charge here. >> and do you know where she's living today by chance? >> i believe she's living in providence with her daughter. a 4-year-old daughter. and she's interacting with friends a little more. her mother said she was coming out of her shell a little bit better. still practices islam. but is getting back to as normal a life as can be here. >> i know you covered a little bit and there's no way to predict but is there a possibility we could hear from her again? see charges against her? >> it's definitely possible. the fbi, they're not likely to close the case against her. if she is called as a witness, she'd likely use the fifth amendment and refuse to testify.
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but if she is charged with something, there could be some kind of testimony coming soon. >> okay thank you so much for joining us. we'll make sure to keep following that trial. >> absolutely, thank you. >> thanks. a fox news alert. we have just learned william and kate are now expected to leave the hospital with their newborn daughter within the hour and head for kensington palace. we'll go back live to london. plus derby fever takes over at churchill downs. our heather childress is there. have you put your bets in? >> actually i did, i put in a bet yesterday and i lost i bet on a horse 60-1 odds for that horse. out here today, there's a lot going on. you can see the spectators are here. 160,000 people expected. straight ahead, we'll show you what's going on off the track.
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it's off to the races in just a few hours as the 141st running of the kentucky derby gets underway at churchill downs. heather childers and her beautiful hat are standing by in louisville with more. heather, i'm a little jealous.
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it looks beautiful out there. >> reporter: we should have gotten you a hat as well e lis beth we'll do that next year. it is a great day out here at churchill downs. you can probably hear the announcer over the speaker. that's because they just wrapped up one race. they've been running races since about 10:30 this morning. of course the big one coming up just around 6:30 this evening. i think it's 6:34 horses are supposed to take off. but there's a lot going on off the track. and we had an opportunity to take a look at some of that for you. take a look. >> they love peppermint. and blonde hair. this is grant. he's been a trainer for about 12 years now. >> all trainers we kind of keep an eye on these derby horses. we all dream to be there. >> hat on it's time for the races. this is your first time?
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>> yes, ma'am, it sure is. >> reporter: and what do you think so far? >> i really like it. >> reporter: so your first piece of advise for people who are newcomers? >> comfortable shoes. >> well you always have to pick the hat first. >> reporter: who did you choose? >> i chose diva and -- >> reporter: is that a good sign if you have to look up their names? >> it is. >> reporter: what's your theory on winning? >> as often as possible. >> reporter: who are you going to pick? oh i like this one because i'm from charlotte. money's on charlotte. that's what i'm picking. two bucks. yeah. we have a winner. moneys on charlotte. we're here in the infield where it's not just about the race, it's about the fan experience. and that's what you've taken into account with this. explain what this is. >> so we are outside the largest self-service draft station. i love this experience. who doesn't like to play bartender? >> cheers. cheers to the derby. and you can't forget the food. my pick, the southern barbecue.
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mmm and this is why we're all here churchill downs, the fastest -- running 40 miles an hour all the way to the finish line. and that finish line as i told you earlier the horse i bet on moneys on charlotte did not win. actually came in second to last. but that's okay. and we want to show you who is leading in terms of the top picks right now. because that did change for tonight's race. and that's because a second horse had to be scratched from the big event. that was international star. just a couple hours ago number 12 had to bow out. and he joined stanford who bowed out on thursday. but american pharoah is still leading in 3-1 odds. back to you. >> heather, thank you. i think you're having way too much fun. hope you enjoy it out there. thank you. >> thank you. now we're going to switch gears and head up north to
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leland vittert standing by. >> reporter: if only you and i elizabeth got to have that much fun on assignment. here at city hall they're having fun too, but the question is is it going to stay peaceful for the rest of the day. as our aerial shots are tracking if not hundreds of thousands of protesters to this area for ground zero for the freddie gray riots. will it stay peaceful? plus, as the six officers charged in this case are back home free on bail as we speak today, what about the conflicts of interest with the prosecutor? are there any? could it mean a change of venue? and can these men and one woman get a fair trial? we'll answer it. try new head & shoulders instant relief. it cools on contact, and also keeps you 100% flake free. try new head & shoulders instant relief. for cooling relief in a snap.
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welcome to the second hour of this special edition of "america's news headquarters" here in the nation's capital. i'm elizabeth prann. and i'm leland vittert in baltimore if we await if not hundreds thousands of protesters here to city hall. it's been billed as a celebration rally they call it because of the six officers three black, three white, who have been charged in the death of freddie gray a 25-year-old man who was running from police and ended up dead shortly thereafter. so much has been made about race in this issue, but also so much has been made about justice.
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the question is not only will there be justice for freddie gray but will there be justice for these six officers? and to bring that question to light i want to bring in edward baud and jonathan edwin's a fellow we met on the street and talked to a lot. i want to ask the same question to you i asked edwin, are these officers no matter what they've done be entitled to a fair trial? everyone i've already talked to has said they've already convicted them. >> i think it's safe to say they'll get a fair trial. i think there's a good mix of race as regards to the officers three black officers, three white officers five men and a woman, i think cops generally get a fair say with regards to -- >> even everyone we talked to think they're guilty you think even in baltimore they can get a fair trial? >> absolutely. >> the other question here i've
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been talking about a lot, we keep hearing chants no justice, no peace. there was no peace on monday night. there was a lot of looting. there was a lot of lawlessness. there was carjackings, all sorts of things. but there have not been a lot of arrests for any of those crimes. as far as i know there have the not been a lot of charges made. is part for the justice for the business owners? is there justice for them too? >> absolutely that's extremely important. >> we're just realizing we have a fox news alert from london. liz. >> thank you very much leland. we're getting some fresh pictures in from london. much-anticipated. the birth of the new princess of cambridge cambridge. okay. we are actually expecting her to leave any moment. so we're getting a live look right now. that's where our amy kellogg is. we may not have to wait too much longer for our first glimpse at the new princess of cambridge. we're going to come back to
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these live pictures in just a moment. obviously, like i said we are anticipating seeing the new princess of cambridge. and when we do we will bring it to you live. the six officers charged in the death of freddie gray face a list of charges. the group also represents a broad spectrum of experience in the baltimore police force. joining us now with more on that is rich edison from baltimore. rich. >> elizabeth, we are at martin luther king jr. boulevard, the intersection of pennsylvania avenue. and this is where this march has stopped. the plan stopped here. they've been moving through the streets. the crowd has been going and this has been moving on. they've been chanting black lives matter. one man with a bull horn earlier said as of monday the world must respect us making reference to the violence we saw on monday. but this has largely very much so been a very peaceful crowd, one that has gained steam. folks calling for justice. folks calling for justice against what they are saying are
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the racist police officers the killer police officers who they want to see convicted. so this is going to go down to city hall where there is also a rally going on elizabeth, even though there have been indictments in this case and we are now hearing all six police officers have been arrested and have posted bail. these folks continue to call for justice. they call for convictions. and they're not stopping. back to you. >> thank you very much rich. we appreciate it. we'll keep checking in with you. thank you very much. right now there are more than 700 u.s. citizens trapped in yemen as we said where tensions are growing. we have jennifer griffin here who was telling us about the state department taking a very unusual approach to protecting these citizens. in fact they're telling people to not go in to these war-torn areas, i think i think support of aden is that correct? >> that's correct. there are more than 700 u.s. citizens trapped in yemen, but the u.s. state department says it has no plans to evacuate them because they say it is quote,
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too dangerous. state department officials are not planning an evacuation like it did from egypt after the arab spring or lebanon in 2006 when 15,000 americans were evacuated by sea and helicopter when war broke out with israel. since evacuating the u.s. embassy in yemen in february it has pulled u.s. citizens they're on their own. concern if they plan an air lift or evacuation by sea that al qaeda rebels or houthis might attack them. >> i think yemen can find a way forward. it's not going to be easy. >> state department spokesman marie harf pointed those americans trapped in yemen to an online registration system but the state department has not asked the department of defense to carry out an ordered evacuation. airports remain bombed out and seaports closed. those americans who are trapped are muslim many visiting family members in yemen. three muslim groups in the u.s.
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have launched a website called stuck inyemen.com and filed a lawsuit in u.s. court accusing the state department and d.o.d. of discrimination. told americans in yemen to e-mail the international organization for migration based in geneva and copy the state department at the following addresses. yemen evacuation requests at iom.int, yemenemergencyusc@state.gov. the americans who are stuck have expressed disappointment with their government. in the movies the u.s. doesn't leave anyone behind one of them remarked to a "the wall street journal" reporter that the state department began warning americans to leave when they closed the embassy on february 11th. >> interesting. thank you for joining us jennifer. we appreciate it. we're going to toss it back to leland who's now in the field in baltimore. leland what is the latest where you are? >> we are still waiting the large group of protesters heading here to city hall. most of the folks here have smiles on their face and that's because just about 24 hours ago
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less than 100 yards from where i am the state attorney here marilyn mosby, announced charges against all six of these officers. quickly, less than a day after she received the final police report on the death of freddie gray. and much has been made about miss mosby, a very ambitious young politician one of the youngest district attorneys here in the united states. prosecutor for the city of baltimore. the question is is she playing prosecutor or is she playing politics? listen to the attorney for the fraternal order of police. >> his injuries did not occur as a result of any action or inaction on the part of these officers. we believe that these officers will be vindicated as they have done nothing wrong. >> and a man who knows a lot about politics prosecution and police work our very own ted williams who spent a lot of time over the past week on the
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streets of baltimore and joins us now from back in washington. ted, as i understand the prosecution's case is laid out by miss mosby yesterday, she laid out a lot of things including some political statements as well. we'll leave that for the moment. but the case was essentially that they arrested freddie gray for no good reason. couldn't articulate a crime. number two, he was not buckled in the back of the police van. i think she said that five times maybe during her press conference. and number three, that he ended up dead. those are the facts as we know it as laid out by the prosecutor yet they have charged one officer with second-degree murder depraved hard killing, is this overcharging? >> you know that is going to be the $54,000 question. i think one poor segment of the community will tell you that it is overcharging because you charge the officer goodson is his name he's a van driver he's charged with second-degree murder depraved meaning there was no intent to kill but that there was some reckless act.
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now, the bottom line is unless these officers have been talking and i don't think they have it's going to be very difficult to prove, i think, second-degree murder here. so there clearly could be in that case an overcharge. >> so is this an idea of just charge them with everything throw the book at all these officers and hope one of them flips? >> that's it. leland you couldn't say it more better. what she's done is thrown the book at six different officers. she's hoping to flip them. but the problem that she may have is number one, normally these officers are going to stick together even though there's some misdemeanor charges. but what there may not be really anything to flip. these officers are closed in the constitution. i don't know what they did. we know that we've heard one side of the story. the prosecutor's side. now there's another side of the story, that means the defense side. we have to wait and see what's going to come out from that standpoint.
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>> all right. so put your defense attorney's hat on here and let's talk about the prosecutor in this case. marilyn mosby, here's what we know about her. young d.a. very aggressive has promised to crack down on the police in some of her campaign events. and the police are charging conflict of interest. let's go through them. she's gotten a large contribution a maximum contribution available from freddie gray's family attorney. he assisted in her transition. her husband is a city council member and has been very outspoken to many people including me on this case. is this a conflict of interest? should she have appointed a special prosecutor for no other reason than just to avoid the appearance of impropriety to make sure this case is rock solid on appeal? >> maybe there should be a special prosecutor appointed. but let's look at the other side of the story. miss mosby has come from a family of law enforcement officers. miss mosby has also received money from the fraternal order of police. so when you balance it out, she's got money from both sides.
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but the fact about it is in order to ere on the side of caution, maybe miss mosby should step back have a special prosecutor appointed. and that way all sides would say that the system is clear and fair for each side. >> so let's talk about how this case goes forward, ted. these officers have been arrested. we know that they were released on bail within hours of being booked through the police processing facility. the question is can they get a fair trial in the city of baltimore? everybody i've talked to -- let's go back to liz. >> thank you so much leland. prince william and the duchess of cambridge have left the hospital and are on their way to kensington palace with their new royal baby. amy kellogg is there among all the excitement. amy, we're seeing what you're seeing. can you tell us what's going on? okay. so we don't have amy right now. but we are taking a live look. you can see there prince william
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with their brand new baby daughter. and the princess of cambridge with kate middleton there. this is obviously something that we all look forward to when we see these photographs. who we don't see right now is little george. but we know when we saw him coming in earlier that he looked a little shocked with all of the photographers and the media. so maybe he's just sort of settling in with this new adjustment. but there you can see prince william and his beautiful bride kate middleton with their new arrival baby girl born. she was 8 pounds 3 ounces. we saw the world welcome her. and obviously now we're getting a first glimpse at the new princess of cambridge. and it's definitely like i said pictures that we really look forward to seeing. so amy, can you hear us? we know you're on the ground there. we just saw what you saw. can you hear us? >> reporter: i do hear you. and i just saw what you saw. it was very touching moment to
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see the duchess of cambridge looking so well after just having given birth to that little girl who has yet to be named. the palace has said she will be given a name in due course. she was on the steps of the wing briefly for us to behold her and the little baby with prince william, duke of cambridge. they brought little prince george in earlier for a visit, but he did not join them for the photo op at this point. i'm looking to see if we're going to get another glimpse. i guess we are because the cars are ready to whisk someone away. i don't know why they darted back inside. but she gave birth just about ten hours ago. it was a relatively quick labor. she went in at 6:00 this morning. she gave birth to an 8 pound 3 ounce baby girl at 8:34 british standard time. so people are ecstatic that it's a girl because now they've got one of each.
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if the girl had been born first, she would have been third in line to the throne because the rules have recently changed. queen elizabeth ii fifth great grandchild. and it is a very exciting day for royal watchers and for those who love this young couple. people have been quite bonded here in this country to prince william ever since he was a little boy. and clearly are very happy to see him happy in his marriage and happy now as a father of two little children. prince george was born here at st. mary's hospital just under two years ago in july of 2013. and he will have to adjust now to sharing the spotlight a bit. the attention. he looked quite stunned when they brought him in here today. because he has never seen such a media presence. he's been quite sheltered from the media. i'm going to step out of shot now just in case they come out and i am blocking.
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>> amy, i know there's a little bit of a delay so our viewers know there's about a two-second delay. but we weren't 100% sure that this little baby was going to be a baby girl. obviously there's a lot of speculation. can you tell me about the excitement that's confirmed it's a baby girl and she's very healthy. what is it like to be there and to feel the excitement with all the folks there? >> reporter: well first of all i will say when prince william, the duke of cambridge emerged from the hospital to go collect little prince george and bring him over here to meet his baby sister his look was so radiant. i can't even transmit it. it was really overwhelming joy. in terms of the public there have been people die-hards camped out here for many weeks now. the royal fans. it's not a big group of people. but they've literally been sleeping out here outside the
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wing. duke and duchess sent them some croissants and made everyone think it's definitely a girl with a pink ribbon. the royal navy in a swarm of saluter celebration spelled out "sister" on the -- and british -- oh here they go. they are leaving. with the baby in a basket. prince william walking around the land rover. putting the baby girl into the backseat. >> live pictures coming through right now. so amy, is this the second time -- the birth of george? >> reporter: yes. and last time they said a few words. this time they're eager to go
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home. bets being placed on the time of birth, the date of birth and what kate middleton the duchess of cambridge would be wearing upon her departure. there were bets she'd be wearing cream and she was wearing sort of cream and yellow. i guess wearing pink was a bit too obvious. i assumed she'd come out in a pink coat with her baby girl. but any way prince william earlier said that he was very very happy. and clearly they are. she's quite amazing she has managed to get herself done up so nicely. and you can see the ease with which she was carrying the second baby. it was all a bit more awkward the first time. naturally as you have the baby because the first time you actually got the responsibility of holding onto a newborn must be quite daunting especially when you've got the world's media trained on you. last time it was all a bit
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more -- a bit longer. they spent the night in the hospital. but this was very quick. in and out in less than a day. heading home to kensington palace for a couple of days. and then they will go to their country retreat. >> great. thank you, amy, so much. >> he will have two weeks of paternity leave. bye, elizabeth. >> thank you very much. we appreciate your coverage there. we watched amy kellogg live as the prince and princess welcomed their new baby. back with more after the break.
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crews are cleaning up in australia today after torrential rains caused massive flooding and led to the death of at least five people. hundreds of roads were swamped as creeks and rivers flooded their banks. many motorists trying to make it through the waters but did get stuck. surrounding areas saw 12 inches of rainfall in just three hours. and the field of 2016 presidential candidates is about to get a whole lot bigger. three republicans are expected to announce their candidacy in the next week. and hillary clinton now has a challenger as well.
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vermont senator bernie sanders says he's running. so how will that change the race for the white house? here for a fair and balanced debate fox news contributor angela mcglowen and democratic strategist richard goodstein. thank you both for being with me. i appreciate it. >> sure, elizabeth. >> thank you for having us. >> rich i want to start with you. the democratic landscape was pretty barren and now we have one more. what kind of impact are we going to see now that bernie sanders has entered the race. >> perhaps we'll stop hearing about stilly talk i hear of coronation. you saw that hillary clinton actually welcomed bernie sanders into the race with a tweet. and i actually think it's good for her in a couple different respects. one, you know you want to be in fighting trim by the time you get into the general election. you actually want to be in debate because you don't want your first debate of the election to be against your republican -- your general election opponent. it helps you frankly organize in the states that are going to be important in the general election to have a primary opponent because you have reason
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for people to kind of energize. and frankly assuming hillary wins every tuesday that there's a primary or caucus you look like a winner when the confetti's dropping and you're standing at the podium and people voting for you. i see this something positive for her. >> angela what do you think? do you think he's going to have a big impact? >> i don't think that bernie will have a big impact. but you have to look out for martin o'malley. very popular mayor of baltimore. very popular governor of maryland. also joe biden. now, biden throws his hat in the ring it definitely won't be a coronation. and hillary's going to have a challenge on her hands because if president obama endorses biden, i think hillary can hang it up. bottom line is this right now she's the darling of the party. and she's a sure win. but she does have some baggage that she's bringing onboard. so basically that type of baggage actually helps republicans. >> okay angela i want to stay with you but sort of switch gears to the gop side. it's just a matter of fact there's more names that we have out there to talk about.
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>> yes. >> and this week we're going to see a lot more names being put in the ring. what do you think about the difference between these two landscapes? on one we're talking about two, three names. but on the other we could be talking about half a dozen or even more. >> the more the merrier. listen when we start having our debates, then the presidential hopefuls can actually distinguish themselves from each other. i think i you have rubio, you have ben carson carly fiorina, who's absolutely amazing, actually throwing their hats in the ring. it demonstrates that the gop is a big party and we have room for all and we have a lot of diversity among our candidates. the only thing, elizabeth, i'm hopeful this is not a replay of 2012 where we actually destroy ourselves before we actually choose the presidential hopeful and help the democrats win. >> right. that was sort of my next question. i want to get rich's reaction. because the power is in the purse. and if we're seeing so many names and so many front runners that circulate week after week
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could that be detrimental to the party? >> listen i wouldn't wish my party to have 15 or 20 different candidates for a couple reasons. one, you deplete your resources. even with somebody as wealthy as mitt romney frankly at the end of the primaries was not financially in good shape. >> oh he did well. he did well against obama. >> hold on. i didn't interrupt you. secondly you end uptaking positions. mitt romney is exhibit a saying self-deportation was the answer to immigration. because of the nature of debates. and it's due to a certain extent both parties, but because of the republican base you end uptaking positions that frankly are not very popular in a general election. and you are already seeing snieping walker saying you need somebody out of washington rubio saying we can't have a governor somebody with foreign policy experience. >> that has nothing to do with being a leader of the free world. or having hopes to be. well you're giving a monologue. wrap it up.
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>> angela -- >> sorry. angela i don't talk to you like that. please don't talk to me like that. that's not polite. >> you're giving a monologue. >> you were too and i didn't interrupt you. my only point is i think to have all these candidates even the debate format alone going to have two tiers, having that many people on a stage is going to be a challenge. >> rich angela thank you both very much for a spirited debate. i'm sure we'll have many more. >> thank you. >> thank you. speaking of possible presidential candidates ohio governor john kasich is joining chris wallace tomorrow on fox news sunday to diskuz his 2016 plans. check your local listings for time and channel. now we're going to check in with leland who remains in baltimore. leland how are you? >> good afternoon, liz. the crowd is continuing to grow here at city hall. peaceful as it were so far, but monday night was anything but peaceful here in baltimore. lawlessness ran rampant, looting across the city. and that was because of a
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standdown order to police given by the mayor. they stood by and watched. we'll talk to one business owner who was affected by it and who i can tell you wasn't going to stand by and watch.
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in baltimore the crowds continue to grow at city hall. we are monitoring a large march headed this way. and the protesters there say they will stay here until curfew. that coming from our rich edson is marching with them here to city hall that is quickly filling up as it's watched by the national guard and hundreds of law enforcement officers from around the country that have come here to help. largely because of what happened in this city monday night when baltimore turned lawless, looting was rampant and unchecked by the police department. they'd been given a standdown order by the mayor. there were dozens of businesses looted. the five-finger discount applied
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over much of the city. one of the businesses that was broken into was a place called midtown barbecue and brew. they had a window smashed, but they didn't get anything. and that's because the owner of that business one tony harrison was standing guard. and i want to bring in tony now to chat a little bit here about what you have experienced over the past couple of days. number one, do you think law and order has returned to baltimore? >> well first of all, i want to say thank god for marilyn mosby and the job she's doing. she grew a pair we needed it the city needed someone to take charge. and she's done -- i mean, thank you, thank you, thank you marilyn mosby. the city does seem to be restored. it's a party. we're charm city. everybody gets -- i mean we get along with everybody. >> you weren't getting along with everybody on monday night. >> no that's not true. what i was doing was i was going to keep the people that are criminals that were doing criminal things out of my place. >> yet you were standing outside with an axe. i think we have a picture of
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you -- >> i don't have a whole axe. i don't want to contradict it was just a handle. >> but you were ready. >> oh yeah. we meant business. >> did you ever think you were going to have to use it? >> well i spent ten years in prison for some wrong moves i made in the '90s. i spent all of the '90s there and i learned what a riot looks like when it's starting and i learned how to hold my own. i'd rather end it all that day than give up. >> as we saw on monday night, tony lawlessness was rampant throughout this city. and the police did nothing. and that's because there was an order given for the police to stand down. that order came from the mayor. i've heard from you that you lost $25,000 in business. your employees have lost $5,000 in tips. in part do you blame the mayor for that lost business for all this damage? >> i think the mayor was terribly inexperienced. you know she was kind of like a volunteer mayor that then took over. >> she sure seems to love the job now. >> well i mean i've always felt like she thought it was a steppingstone, but i hope not.
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you know the thing is the business we've lost i can smooth out over the year. but my employees, the other people that have been crushed, i mean we got off easy. there are people that have been crushed with their business. i started a go fund me page for my employees to get them their money and that's doing great. >> we've heard all these marches about no justice, no peace. but so far there hasn't been any justice for any of the looted businesses. and nobody seems to care about them. is that the feeling you get? >> i'm going to tell you something, once this tragedy -- you know it was a tragedy. freddie gray shouldn't have died. and things were mishandled. and i love the police. i love the baltimore police. they try to do a tough job in a very tough paradigm. i'm happy to wait until everything's settled, until everyone's made whole until we've sorted this whole thing out and then i hope there's mitigation for the business owners that have been harmed. that's what i hope. but we can wait. >> one of the things the mayor has said is that the key to revitalizing the city, the key
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to economic development, the key to helping so many of the folks in dire poverty that we have seen and have been on the streets is economic development. to have economic development you need small business. small business doesn't want to come to baltimore. people don't want to invest when they see the scenes like we had here this week. >> well i'm going to say two things. i own a restaurant, but i've also been working with ex-offenders i have a housing program for them that i've operated out of my pocket for ten years called changing directions. we have a lot of things that are ill in this country, but this kind of thing today it does seem to be healing. and i do think that now what's happened is the conversation is at least on the table. thatverybody can do a better job. the police can do a better job, the policies traction you know all these things. i do hope it does come about. >> tony harrison midtown barbecue and grill. we appreciate it. and some brews as well. we appreciate your time and hope to try your barbecue sometime. >> baltimore ravens greatest team in football. >> well hopefully the city will
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have something to celebrate a little bit more than charges against police officers. obviously, elizabeth, i think they're counting on the orioles this year. may know something about that. >> yeah, i think they are too. hopefully we can give them a run for their money. thank you very much, leland. we'll check in with you shortly. thanks. it's day three and the final day of the annual warrior 100k bike ride with former president george w. bush. the ride this year honors service members with invisible wounds of war. the final takes place in crawford texas where fox news medical analyst dr. marc siegel joins us live. dr. siegel. >> hi elizabeth. welcome. we're down here at the prairie chapel ranch, the w 100k warrior bike ride. has just completed. by my estimation this is the most important ride because it's looking at the invisible wounds of war post-traumatic stress and traumatic brain injury which are often overlooked. president bush was inspiring. he was leading from the front of the pack. i had a chance to talk to him
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about his health. and he appears to be in great health. >> i feel great. a little concerned about falling apart at age 68. you know my knees went down my back had surgery, had a little heart stint. but i feel like a teenager. now, whether i ride like one is another question. >> you know the issue of post-traumatic stress is central here. and i found that talking to some of the veterans, specifically to leslie zimmerman, that she felt she didn't deserve to be considered wounded, that she wasn't treated with the same recognition. >> it's hard to feel like i deserve to be called wounded. to be somewhere like this it makes me feel like it's validating that even though you can't see it it's still there and i am wounded. >> it's a very optimistic spirit down here elizabeth.
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i think that's the first step in healing something like post-traumatic stress. a lot of research has to be done. a lot of work is being done by the bush institute and the veteran work across the country. post-traumatic stress not disorder pervasive in our returning military and figure out a way to treat it. and i think a lot of people here feel that exercise is a very very big part of the solution. sports and exercise. back to you, elizabeth. >> thank you, dr. siegel we look forward to having you down there every year. thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead on "america's news headquarters," the megafight, the big night has finally arrived. the world's two best boxers battling it out for bragging rights. and let's face it a huge paycheck. thousands are descending on las vegas for this once-in-a-lifetime event and the fans are all fired up. >> i think it will. i think people have waited i don't know five ten years for this five years for this. i think it's going to be worth all the hype. and i think there's going to be a rematch that's always
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it's being called the fight of the century. boxers floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao are stepping in the ring tonight going toe-to-toe in a battle of historic proportions. jim gray is live at the mgm grand in las vegas where the big fight will take place tonight. jim, thank you so much for joining us. >> great to be with you, elizabeth. going to be a huge night. we've been waiting for a long time for this one. >> i know. what's the mood like? >> festive. unbelievable. you can't believe it. yesterday we had the weigh-in for mayweather and for pacquiao. mayweather weighed in at 146, one pound under the limit, pacquiao at two pounds under the limit at 145. there were 17,000 people who came to the weigh-in. there were another estimated 75,000 outside who couldn't get in. they paid $10 a piece to go see
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grown men get on a scale in their shorts. and they also were scalping these tickets for $400 to $500 to go into a weigh-in. it's beyond believable what's going on here. about 300,000 people are descending upon this city. and there just isn't enough space in the hotel rooms. and there certainly isn't enough tickets. >> that's what i wanted to ask you. because, i mean there's only so many people who can watch the event live but we're still talking about historic proportions of people descending upon las vegas. so where is everybody going? are people paying to watch the event elsewhere? >> well yeah. you can get it on showtime pay per view. there are closed circuit outlets here in the city. of course across the country people can call their local cable operators or directv or dish or whatever you have. but here in the city it's limited to the mgm property. so that's a bit of a problem because there are so many people who won't be able to see the fights unless they just go knocking on people's doors and offer to pay. but it's just so much fun here. and we've been waiting so long
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for this. and it's the two best pound-for-pound fighters. tonight we're going to see what everybody's wanted for the past six or seven years. >> so our viewers can gauge, the winner of this fight how big of a game changer. not only speaking as far as the paycheck is concerned, but, i mean bragging rights would be an understatement. i mean how big of a game changer is this? >> well, the money is astronomical astronomical. floyd mayweather can make anywhere from $160 million to $200 million plus. manny pacquiao $100 million plus tonight. so the money is outrageous. we've never seen anything like this in any sport for a single event. as for a game changer, floyd mayweather is 47-0. he's never lost. so for him to win tonight would be 48-0 and be just one short of the record of rocky who retired at 49-0. so floyd mayweather is trying to protect that zero. for manny pacquiao he's a hall of famer, he's already won so many titles in so many different
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divisions. but if he were to win tonight with the 57-5-2 record he would be the only man to have ever beaten floyd mayweather and that will only cement his legacy and take him from being a great fighter to a a legendary and elite fighter. a lot on the line. mayweather has a lot to lose by losing this fight tonight. manny pacquiao really has nothing to lose. >> okay. so where can people find you tonight? >> on showtime pay per view. it's a combined pay per view. hbo has the rights to pacquiao mayweather's rights are held by cbs and showtime. so they've come together and you can get it on showtime pay per view. we hope everybody tunes in. al bernstein and myself and james brown, paulie and max kellerman all going to have the fight. it's going to be a huge evening here. tune in because anything can happen. and we don't have this a lot. it's been 30 years since we've had something like this. then you have to go back to
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ali-frazier or possibly tyson and holyfield that took place in the building behind me. 1,000 people paying more than $100,000 for front row seats. a lot of money. >> that's a lot of bling, my friend. thank you so much. i appreciate it. have fun tonight. >> you're welcome. still to come actress sofia vergara's public custody battle over her frozen embryos is sparking a debate over the future of thousands of frozen embryos. we'll talk about it up next. love making sunday dinners. but when my back hurt, cooking all day... forget about it. tylenol was ok, but it was 6 pills a day. but aleve is just 2 pills all day. and now, i'm back! aleve. music ♪ are you ready to go grab life by the gills. would you like to make an investment you know will pay off? then you belong at bass pro shops. where great gear, great prices and the great outdoors all meet up.
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four more farms have been one million chicken egg laying businesses. >> modern family actress sofia vergara is in a legal battle with her former fiance over her frozen embryos. the argument has gotten headlines and brings up ethical questions about what to do with hundreds of thousands of frozen embryos sitting in banks across the country. here to weigh in on the subject
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is dr. rhodes an expert in bioethics. welcome. thank you for joining us. this is a fascinating topic because science seems to be moving faster than the law here. is that the case that we're seeing? >> well assisted reproduction has been around for about 30 years or more so we have gotten used to it. a lot of children are conceived with assistance and i think we have for the most part been handling these situations with our current laws very well. there is minimal regulation of assisted reproduction in the united states. i'm not sure that we need a lot more. >> okay. so when you say it has been around for 30 years, is it developing more recently so for example, there are stories out of a couple in london that couldn't conceive a child and then there's actually the dna
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from three people within this child. is that something that we're seeing now? is technology really transforming the way children are conceived even more so? >> that's been some new technology yes, and there is also new technology in frozen eggs unfertilized eggs. but even those technologies have been around for awhile and very rarely do they make news headlines as something dramatic and different. >> where do you draw the line with these embryos? are they being treated as humans or as property now? >> they are being treated for the most part as important to human beings for making decisions about their own lives and their own responsibilities. so we think of marriage as undertaking a responsibility and we think of deciding to have a child as undertaking a responsibility.
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so i think it's within the human realm but the eggs themselves in a sense, they're considered property and in another sense, they're very very important to the individuals who produce the embryos. >> now, ethically speaking when couples are at odds does one side of the couple does the man or woman have an upper hand in the type of scenario let's say where they're at odds and one of them wants the embryos to be destroyed or not to be used? >> i think for the most part we want decisions to go according to what the people have agreed in advance. so like any other thoughtful decision you should try to think in a forward-looking way and try to envision the kinds of decisions you would want to make and that would give both parties equal rights over the disposition. they make an agreement and they honor the agreement that they
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made about the eggs. the significant difference in human biology between men and women is that women have a very limited supply of eggs and for men, they have an abundance of sperm and men can produce useful sperm, sperm useful for reproduction, into old age. women's reproductive life is very limited so if you're talking about an undertaking of a conception of an embryo creation of an embryo -- >> dr. rhodes we have to wrap it up. i apologize. we will take a break. thank you so much.
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you're looking live at huge crowds in the city of baltimore this hour and growing. welcome to this special edition of america's news headquarters here at the nation's capital. i'm elizabeth prann. >> live on the ground at city hall in baltimore are crowds are kwernlg converging. city hall resembles something like an armed camp. national guardsmen are protecting it reinforced by law enforcement from across the midatlantic that has come in to restore law and order to the city of baltimore over the past week. as we

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