property being destroyed or police being rocks thrown at them they are going -- we've got to get it sorted out. >> i hear you my friend. i didn't want to jump on you. "the five" is right now. general, thank you very much. hello, everyone. i'm greg gutfeld along with kimberly guilfoyle and eric bolling. this is "the five." last night's draw muhammad contest in texas did not just draw muhammad it drew two is islamists. >> both of them started shooting at the police car. the police officer in that car began returning fire and struck both men taking them down. >> the dude ended up as chalk lines or etchings.

you know you're down south when every shooting is the shooting gallery, thankfully. it's a contrast to "charlie hebdo" whose editors died helplessly. terrorists in texas, however, found a far deadlier lead inside your pencil. they were dispatched but the idiacy of "the times" still stands. >> free speech aside, why would someone do anything as provocative as hosting a muhammad drawing contest? the answer is in the question. the first amendment means zilch if it only protects hello and have a nice day. and also when you begin your take on free speech with free speech aside, you kind of lose the point. but hey, maybe they were asking for it. >> no one would ever dispute the right for people to have freedom of speech necklace this country. you know it is a constitutional

right. but are questions being asked in some way were they asking some kind of an attack -- obviously not that anyone deserved it but an invitation for an attack. >> there's always that but. this is where we are. remember the attacks on our libyan outpost were blamed on a film including hillary. meanwhile, protesting a freedom of expression award that was going to be given to "charlie hebdo." so brave, these creeps who got rich off of freedom of speech and now can decide what freedom of speech is. if you're a journalist and don't get the contest, then it's you who is the real cartoon. >> we said this before you know when people look at events like these and they go well they look at the history of provocations. also like she asked for it. >> yeah that's what a lot of

the journalists were seemingly saying. we've heard before, too, greg the president stand in front of the u.n. and say the future does not belong to the prophet muhammad and had a similar response during the fre attack on "charlie hebdo." so yes, you see blame going around in different places against the people who, i think, a lot of people in the media think shouldn't be doing this. and on some level, they asked for it. just to show you how great freedom of speech is in this country, we allow isis to have twitter accounts and they actually telegraph these terrorists. they were going to be doing this on social media and we allowed it. now, we should have caught it. will we allow them to do that because of freedom of speech in our country? >> exactly. >> it's pretty incredible. >> eric is it provocation or is it actually educating people on why speech matters? >> it's clearly educating people why speech matters. it's also a case study of what

happens when you try and do that you have crazy whackos coming out. they called it the texas attack and then say may allah accept us. thank god forth the garland, texas, police department and taking them down fast. if you saw the bullet-riddled car that they stepped out of the first amendment was in play and the second amendment. clearly it worked out in the right way. however, james comey, i believe it was, said we have open investigation going on in 50 different states right now. i don't know if this keeps happening, maybe it won't end this way. hopefully it does, though. >> juan eric pointed out it was like an amendment sandwich. they walked into it. why does the media see the cartoons as more of a threat

than the actual violent terror. they spent more of the coverage at the background of the people putting on this event rather than the background of the people that attacked them. >> irs if, let me just first, this woman named pamela geller who set it up she's a provacateur. she has ads on the buses in new york city basically saying that killing jews is worse than what draws us to allah. that's pretty offensive. >> she's quoting something? >> yes. but putting that on the buses in new york city. what she wants to do is make it clear what these islamists are doing. >> she's correct on a lot of things. >> this is the odd part for me. you're talking to someone here who has been punished fired for speaking out and punished by people who were activists in the muslim community who put

pressure on npr to fire me. but i'm telling you, i understand why, for example, i was struck when the "charlie hebdo" incident happened that "the new york times" refused to publish the cartoon and i want to know what caused these people to be attacked? right? so my newspapers don't cover it. "the washington post" put out a little thing. the washington journal didn't put it out until the very end. >> they say that it's provocative and juvenile. look i lived through -- i'm a very strong christian and i don't remember being violent over it. >> book of mormon is considered one of the greatest works of musical comedy and other things that involve using the virgin mary. >> my kind of art and i did not enjoy the evening at the book of mormons. many people do. it's not my cup of tea. anyway what i think of this is

yes, pamela geller is making a point. what she's been pointing out is accurate and has been laying out in front of our eyes on tv. the fact that they have a radical cartoon, doesn't give the radical islamists to come in and kill. the other one i love drop them like they are hot. there you go. >> are events like these helpful by drawing out the extremists? when the police would send letters to out standing warrants saying you want to vote? and then they all show up at a hotel and then get arrested? is that how this works? you have these things once in a while and then the crazies come out? >> exactly. >> although who would volunteer to do this cartoon event. >> that's the thing. >> full on snipers.

>> to catch a predator that guy. the guy always in the kitchen. >> didn't he have a problem himself? >> no. you pointed out in your monologue, it draws attention to -- when people who say, people who do this they are provocative, you sit back and go these people just gunned them down and murdered people and then you think about all of the beheading videos who really are the prova krchlcateers? >> they call it a hate group because they are so aggressive in condemning the muslim community. now, i happen to agree with you, as i said earlier. i don't think that you have any back step -- he was in this game too. oh yeah "charlie hebdo" was kind of provocative. i agree with you.

why would gary trudo -- he's on the sunday comic page with a political message every week. i'm going to tell you, the idea that he would turn and say you can't say what you want to say? how ridiculous. >> chicken little. >> it's like marilyn manson who spent decades making fun of christians and then said well i'm going to s stay away from that. >> and then they win. >> yeah. he's always tricking me. i want to make one journalistic statement. still in hiding an american journalist when you stop and think about van gogh being killed it seems to me that we have to be very clear that you can practice journalism in this country and even if she is a

provacateurs. >> i think he's trying to say we've all had moments but this is a moment right now, today, where radical islam is a threat to world peace, in my opinion. >> this guy, elton simpson, they call him a former terror suspect. >> but he was on the terror watch list. >> yes. >> in 2009. they said he wanted to travel to somalia to become a terrorist to engage in violent jihad. i don't know how they say former. it's current. and also the other shooter ended up being his roommate. >> birds of a feather. >> yeah. >> one question before i go the

media persistently asks about questions of sexual orientation. why don't they do this with hillary about stuff like this about muslim intolerance and things like what is your stand on this now? since we knew her stand on libya, is she going to blame -- what is she going to blame? >> she's never going to answer a question like that. she is just going to side step. she's going to avoid it. >> i think it goes back to what you said earlier, i know you've got to go but don't you think liberals and democrats are going to say, what about geller? don't get distracted here. you've got to support journalistic and truth telling in this country. ahead, another nypd officer has been assassinated. will protesters come out to seek justice for him? don't count on it. next.

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provocateur. >> welcome back to "the five." let's go to baltimore where mike tobin is live with an update. >> reporter: juan what we saw out here at 2:45, it would be very hard to duplicate a situation that looked more like a guy being shot. we saw a foot chase at 2:45 with

an officer pursing a young, black man. it was the observation of me my security team and my cameraman that the officer had his gun drawn. we saw the person being chased on the ground. i arrived at the conclusion that the individual had been shot as you naturally would in a situation like that. when we walked up on him the person on the ground looked to be in bad shape. it's not clear if he hit his head if he was exhausted or just play acting but he looked to be in bad shape when they took him away in the ambulance. the conclusion that he was shot is inaccurate but a short period of time from now, i would be hard-pressed not to arrive at the same conclusion given all of the things that transpired in such a quick flurry of activity. juan? >> thanks so much mike. now to a case that is not getting nearly the same kind of attention as the freddie gray case. a new york city police department officer shot over the weekend died today from his

wounds. officer brian moore was shot in the face on sunday. demetrius blackwell is being held on charges of attempted murder. police commissioner bill bratton made the announcement earlier today. >> in his very brief career less than five years, he had already proven to be an exceptional young officer. in that career he had made over 150 arrests, serving the citizens of the city. he had already received two exceptional police service medals. we don't give them out easily. it's a great loss to his family and to this department and great loss to this profession and this city. >> eric i've got to tell you,

this makes me cry but apart from that what is going on? in new york city remember you had the two police officers assassinated. >> i'm not being harshed when i say assassinated. what is going on? i read your piece. it's fantastic. it points out that stephanie rawlings-blake was calling for decreased action because she didn't want there to be the passion and emotion and the first sign of problems start arresting people. bring more police in. bring backup in. miss rawlings-blake says don't. as you point out, rafael ramos and wenjian liu was assassinated

in their car. and now his being killed at the hands of another guy who was shot into a police car, is it in response to some more of the an moss fee going on? the finger pointing going on at the mayors and president obama -- >> it's terrible. take a look at this eric. this is a video of people feeding the anti-police animosity in our society. >> we can't continue to bring a bunch of good-natured people and there's a few bad apples, that's not the right way. they are an occupying force in the hood. that's my issue. >> this whole police community relations situation, it's civil rights for this generation. no doubt about it. >> when we have grown comfortable with the notion that african-american people and poor people and young people can be brutalized at the hands of a

minority fraction of the police we have to get away from that. >> this is so infuriating to me. it feeds this idea that somehow poor people and most often mine north, hispanics and blacks don't want or need police. let me tell you something, i don't think it's news. the police are in chaos, kimberly the one who have the most violence occurring. >> right. look at a crime map. invest in educating yourself so people don't make these ignorant comments. look at what happens with community policing and working together. it makes going into these communities most at risk to be able to clean them up. it worked here with rudy giuliani. the answer isn't to pull them back or demilitarize or unarm the police or all of this other nonsense because those are the first people that will be crying when their communities go downhill. >> but the cost is so great.

the governor of maryland said their businesses are just wiped out. 200 businesses just lost. that's jobs in the community, that's retail visits. so if you want to shop in your community, you can't do t. greg. >> going back to the question new york city cop is shot dead and we ask where is the outrage and riots? the people who support the police are not career agitators where a career agitate devote the entire focus of their life to undermeaning a very important part of society. the people who support the police they have families and jobs and don't have time to to do this. i see it parallel to the oil companies, progressive act vifs would take an oil spill and damage an industry that keeps the country going. you don't need to take down a business. if you take down the police you take down society so they will take an incident and they did

damn an entire profession knowing that is the secret to destroying society. this is a group of subversive activists. >> to me i understand the concern about police that are brutal and wrong in their treatment of people but this to me smacks with something larger. it's i'd logic and has nothing to do with the death of freddie gray. >> i agree. there was a poll out this weekend that showed how communities view police officers and that is right down the racial line. it's really really troubling. if they don't get a conviction in baltimore, i think it's only going to get worse. what's troubling to me though these police officers in baltimore are guilty until proven innocent. cops seem to be in the cross-hairs and no one seems to care because, as greg pointed out, it's not black lives

matter all lives matter, i do think that the president came out in his remarks. i think when he said there's a problem with the way that police interact with communities, i don't think it's helped the situation. certainly not every cop is going to be perfect but on the whole they are really good people and to greg's question earlier, is anyone going ask her, would she repeal her husband's crime bill? that was the bill that brought thousands of cops to the streets of new york city under rudy giuliani. they have been under rib bral rule for over 50 years. what does that tell you? >> 200 businesses lost the -- minority businesses lost in ferguson. >> yeah. >> those businesses are not coming back any time soon. >> when they announced the death of the police officer, i was at a bank wiring money. the death was met in that bank with anger and shock. it reminded me that the world is not what we're used to.

it's not the career social warriors. it's the community of good people. >> right. >> that really care about the police but they can't march because they have jobs. >> you know what let me tell you something, in the black community, too, people want tons of honest and good policing. don't ever get that confused. well next the riots may have subsided in baltimore but many business owners will feel the effects for some time to come as we were discussing. more on that when "the five" continues. ♪ calloused fingers from my guitar strings. ♪ ♪ wild like the wind in the tall pine trees. ♪ ♪ i got roots and i got wings. ♪ ♪

on friday baltimore's state's attorney marilyn mosby gave this vow. >> as the chief prosecutor i have been sworn to uphold justice and to treat every individual within the jurisdiction of baltimore city equally and fairly under the law. i have heard your call for no justice, no peace.

however, your peace is sincerely needed as i work to deliver justice on behalf of freddie gray. to the youth of this city i will seek justice on your behalf. this is a moment this is your moment. >> but what about justice for all of the business owner who is lost their livelihoods from the destruction? here's maryland's governor larry hogan. >> reporter: monday night, we lost 200 businesses. most of them were minority-owned businesses. maybe of them didn't have insurance. hundreds of millions of dollars have been lost. people had their homes burned down businesses burned down and looted. and then the folks that even didn't get a hit on monday night lost business for an entire week. >> okay. so let's talk about the business impact of this. that seemed to be lost in her political and partisan comments. >> hundreds of millions of dollars. the governor said in likely lost business in revenues. mostly minority-owned

businesses. also something else came out today, "the examiner," $467 million towards education, $26 million towards crime prevention where did the money go? where did all of the money go? if this is the concern that there's not enough money being spent there, it's not coming from the federal governorment that's for sure. >> it went to rocks. where else did they get the rocks to throw? $1 billion worth of rocks. >> they are launching an investigation in that regard. >> they should have a shop keeper appreciation day. thoo he is are very very brave -- many of them immigrants who come to areas that other businesses don't want to go to and they open up these shops. they help a lot of little old ladies there. sometimes it's the oem place that they can get food and they have to deal with unsavory

teenagers. they take the risk that so many leftists don't have to because they live there. these people live there and it's awful. >> they are the victims of the nonsensable left. >> why burn down a cvs? i use a drugstore for everything. >> that's where i buy dinner. >> i do. i grocery shop. >> they have everything. >> they do. >> the only thing troubling about mosby's comments too, is i heard you. no justice, no peace. it's not her job to listen to the rioters in the community. >> it is her job to listen to the community. >> juan it's her job to listen to the evidence and decide if there's enough to bring charges. >> she's a politician, andrea. >> you just said it. she's a politician. >> they are all politicians. >> it sounded like she was making a political speech to set her accept up for office. >> no. >> wait i don't mind being

wrong. i'm just telling you, she ran saying we need to reform the relationship between police and -- >> she's not supposed to be an activist. she's supposed to be the arbitrar of peace. >> if she is wrong, she will be shown to be wrong. >> can i say one thing in one respect? >> no. >> she went on police accountability. >> that's what i'm saying. >> people of baltimore knew what they were doing when they got her. >> it's not her job, though. >> so you have a problem when she says it? >> stand back for five seconds here because this is crazy talk. she is supposed to evaluate the facts and evidence and not be partisan or influenced by public

sentiment because that's what has happened in the past and we have lynchings and everything. >> i'm talking about -- eric is talking about how she ran for office. she said explicitly we have a problem with the way the police deal with young people and then we had a thorough review of the tape and came to this decision. >> she's doing that just to seek political favor instead of evaluating the facts and the law. it's not her job. >> it is her job. my point is, everybody saw this coming when they elected her. you should have seen it. elect these states attorneys who are impartial, who don't have an ax to grind coming into office and you won't have this problem. am i wrong? >> if she can't get a conviction you know the riots that will break out after this? >> you're hoping. >> no. wait a minute. that's not fair.

no. our own leland vitter asked protesters on the street specifically my question which is what will happen when they don't get a conviction and the man said it will get even worse. >> we don't know this. >> oh o. so everyone will be fine with it? >> no. look. they've had objections before. but you look at other jurisdictions, they have prosecutors who in fact coincide with the police even when the police are wrong. >> juan she overpromised and she's going to underdeliver and baltimore is going to suffer. wait and see. wait and see. >> what about a guy that chokes and the prosecutor doesn't even indict him. >> did you see that piece that said rioting works? >> yeah. that's crazy talk. >> you know the person who wrote that is probably a young, white liberal. >> yes. right. ridiculous. >> leave it there. ahead, a new interview following serious allegations.

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the clintons are accused of serious wrongdoing with possibly trading favors for money and the former president is deflecting blame and critics. >> there is a very deliberate attempt to take the foundation down and there is almost no new facts that wasn't known when she ran for president the first time. >> he says the clinton foundation hasn't done anything knowingly inappropriately and doesn't face a perception problem even though it accepted millions from repressive middle eastern regimes and other questionable donors while hillary was secretary of state. >> i don't think that i did anything against the interest of the united states. >> do you understand that the

perception itself is a problem? >> no. >> you don't? >> no. look i don't want to get into that here. i asked hillary about this and she said you know no one has never tried to influence me by helping you. >> well bill also tried his hardest to convince americans, once again, he and hillary are just like the folks, like you and me. >> one of the most amusing things of all is everybody saying well how can hillary possibly relate to the terms of middle-class america because now we have money? i mean it's laughable. i give 10% of my revenue off the top every year to the foundation. and hillary in the year she was there gave 17. over the last 15 years, i've taken almost no capital gains and i've given 10% to -- >> so she's now running for president. will you continue to give? >> yes. i've got to pay my bills.

>> only you and i don't put down $100 million over the last few years on 45-minute speeches. >> sad, isn't it? >> wow. >> yeah. >> i have no problem with them working and making money if that's the price that they command in the free market so be it. let me and the rest of the hardworking folks in america keep our cash. that's the thing. so if they could be a little more ethical, god knows, they are being bad. >> let me pick up on that juan. in 2013 the pie is 100%. 9% of what the foundation spent went toed a menstruate tif office space, paying salaries. only 10 cents on the dollar went to charitable causes. >> i find that incredible. that strikes me -- how is that legal? >> you end up on a bad charity list. >> and they are. >> like bad haiti relief charity lists. >> i want to say something to you about the politics of this because there's a new poll out and they asked democrats --

remember not the clinton hating -- >> they asked the democrats about this and they said it was 40% of democrats that said the clinton's behavior is barely honest or clearly not honest. that's democrats and 60% of independents agreed. the contrary is 62% say she's a strong leader ardccording to this a.p. poll. but the idea that her behavior is unethical, i don't think there's a doubt. >> the big donors 500 millions and up come from foreign entities. is that a good idea? >> it's a huge problem. but bill doesn't care. no one cares. >> they don't care. >> he's on the cover of "town & country" this month looking like a hero. even though juan points out, there's a huge issue everybody knows that they are shade balls and sketchy and no one cares. no one cares. that's why he said it because he

knows they are not going to be held accountable. it doesn't make a difference. >> greg take this wherever you want but the clintons either hillary or the clintons just bought a mansion on embassy row in nyc. and they are trying to pay their bills. >> see, money doesn't matter when you have power. you don't need any money in your wallet if you used to be president of the united states. you never pick up the bill. they pick up you. but the question a lot of people don't ask is why are all of these rich foreign people interested in an american foundation? i guess there are no deeptcent foundations in canada or russia. what is so special about this one? and not the ones in their own country? it's weird. >> well it's obvious. that's the thing, you can't get away from it that there's something -- i don't know if you

want to go where you went but -- >> why? >> shady balls? >> but i was going to say to you, i think what you've got with the clintons is a situation that everybody kind of is uncomfortable. the question is where do we go from here? because if i said to you, where is the smoking gun, you don't have an answer to the smoking gun. >> k.g. of the $2 billion in the foundation is spent on themselves is it really a foundation? should we even call it a charitable foundation? >> no. 10 cents on the dollar? i don't think so. that's the problem. why is it an automatic gift handed over like you know free gift with purchase. >> what are they promising for campaign donations? >> who knows. who knows. is the wall up? is the chinese wall up or does

the money jump over the wall. >> two more contenders jump into the race today. can ben carson win the race? can carly fiorina? we'll talk about that next on "the five." this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than allergy medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. if you don't think seize the trip when you think aarp then you don't know "aarp". get inspired with aarp travel. plan and book your trip online and get hot travel tips from the pros. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities.

well another woman entered the presidential race today, carly fiorina has positioned herself as the anti-hillary clinton and kept that theme going in her announcement earlier. >> i'm getting ready to do something, too. i'm running for president. >> our founders never intended us to have a professional political glass. they believed that citizens and leaders needed to step forward. we know the only way to reimagine our government is to reimagine who is leading it. i'm carly fiorina and i'm running for president. >> and then there was ben carson the first african-american to enter the 2016 contest. he made it official in his hometown of detroit. >> i'm not politically correct and i'm probably never -- i'm

probably never going to be politically correct because i'm not a politician. i'm not even asking everybody to vote for me. i'm just asking people to listen to what i'm saying and listening to what politicians are saying and make an intelligent decision. >> well it's nice to see some diversity on the gop stage. eric what did you think about carson's announcement? >> i loved it. it was really professional. it was apolitical. one of his ideas that i absolutely adore is bringing the $2 trillion in offshore back to -- he's got great ideas. he's other things that are going to make him a difficult choice to vote for but while at least you see some new ideas. >> kimberly, one of the things that he came out against was the selfie i thought it was strange and you said you think he's cute and he has a cute little nose. do you think that will help him

get elected? >> he is very likable. when he speaks to you, he's talking to you like it's your neighbor or a doctor in the office and you're having a conversation with him. i thought he was very nice today and the wife was very sweet, too. so he has the world's most perfect nose. >> greg does it remind you of having a conversation with your doctor? >> a very very stern lecture about where to put things. >> real people with real meaningful jobs are always at a disadvantage. a surgeon, not a community organizers do not have all those decades of preparing for political life. carson spent the last three or four decades saving baby's lives, steadinstead of preparing for the perfect answer. he really hasn't thought about it. the advantage to being a lawyer no offense, is you have a lot of time in the world to hone your

political skills that doctors and people who are ceos don't. >> juan what do you think about ben carson? i think he is troubling to the left because he has an incredible story. he never played the victim card. it's very compelling and i don't think they like that about him. >> no question he has a compelling story. the book about his upbringing in detroit and my heart goes out to you, ben, about his mom, she is not well right now. it comes an odd day emotionally for him. let me just say that his story is one of the most inspiring because he stands up for anybody who believes that in hard work no matter your circumstance -- he was born into tough circumstances, you can make it in america distinguish yourself and he has saved lives. there's no joke about this. as a politician he's in single digits. fiorina is in no digits when it

comes to support. >> usually known for single digit. >> which digit in particular? >> eric any thoughts on fiorina? >> no. we need to hear a lot more. where did meg whitman go? i'd love to see her run. >> "one more thing" is up next.

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time for "one more thing." how about you, k.g.? >> thank you. there was a lovely day yesterday. that's the two of us at the community gardens. that's a picture of he and his dad eric and this is from st. gregory. >> he's so cute. >> he did the mass and music director was great and anita and itas a wonderful group and an incredible school and great church and i hope that they keep that church exactly where it is. >> he looks just like you and is one of the sweetest little boys. >> oh thank you. he was a very good boy and he was in charge of the money basket. >> there you go. >> greg's headline corner. >> all right. going to roll some tape. i want you to look at it and tweet me a headline for this. this was itle. this is some idiot that got stuck in a basket. a headline might be a true

basket case or goal tending or if you have a good headline tweet it to me and you will win absolutely nothing because i'm cheap. i'm a cheap jerk. >> all right. an droe yeah? >> okay. so everyone at the table i think watched the fight saturday night. did you notice jimmy kimmel as part of pacquiao's entourage? it was crazy. there he was with the gold chains on. a couple people had cocktails and didn't notice him. how could you miss him? i thought that is funny. jamie foxx was singing. i thought it was very cute and who doesn't like kimmel. 180 million mayweather made and -- >> i think justin bieber was with mayweather so he was trying to match him. but he looked like something

from the '90s. >> i hate all of the people you just mentioned. >> even mark wahlberg? >> no i like mark wahlberg. >> eric? >> very quickly, this #wakeupamerica almost 500,000 tweets mentioned "wake up america," people are going to it for conservative debate. add that to your tweet even if it's associated with the show or not. >> so america fererra is in a coma? >> she's sleeping. >> juan? >> today, as you know is may the 4th. so may the 4th be with you because it's national star wars day. and people are going crazy on social media and at vanityfair.com they release some details about episode 7 upcoming which is called the force awakens. they have two new stars.

adam is the bad guy and lupita is playing a good girl. is the outsider road to the white house the inside trek? a surgeon and business woman hopes so. this is "special report." good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. a few washington outsiders, dr. ben carson and business woman carly feeiorina have joined the presidential field. the clintons continue to deny any improprieties regarding their charitable foundation. we have fox coverage. and brit hume is here and mike emanuel.