file". ben carson is running, mike huckabee is announcing tomorrow reduced to readers at the end of the show. it's been a busy news time. we say good night. sean hannity is live. thanks for watching. and thanks megyn. welcome to "hannity." new details tonight on the two rad ral islamists who opened fire an at event in texas. the event's organizer pam geller will be here with the latest and firsthand account of what happened. first, the very latest details on the suspects' potential terror ties. first tonight, uncertainty in the streets of baltimore. the mayor now lifted the 10:00 p.m. curfew and the national guard has been sent how many. the state of emergency is still in effect and police are monitoring quote, areas of concern. here now on the ground in baltimore with the very latest is leland vitter. different scene tonight, but

still worry in the minds of officials. >> reporter: there may be worry, sean but if the police are concerned about what's going on in this area that you used to be ground zero for the rioting and everything else they're not showing it because they're not here. we've been here for about an hour and a half or so and have yet to see a single police car or single police officer. we do get the feeling around these parts that we are decidedly unwelcome by the group that's here. that may be with good reason. i'm told by a lot of law enforcement sources that up until about a week and a half ago when these riots broke out that this one of the central corners for the drug trade here in baltimore and the gang leaders that control this area aren't very happy with the fact that the police and now the media have camped out here for a long time. it has hurt business. and i'm told that they are quite upset about that. in fact, as you look around right now, though you see a bunch of folks hanging out on the street corners i'm told that's pretty much commonplace at this time of night. what's changed, though is

almost none of them want to say anything to us. you might remember over the past week or so everybody has been more than happy to chat about just about anything. the people who are talking now, though are the businessowners whose businesses were destroyed. i'll get greg to turn around here you can see yet another one of those boarded up businesses. this city's got a lot of boarded up businesses. they don't need anymore. and there were dozens of businesses that were looted. what was stunning to the businessowners themselves as the looting was going on, they were calling 911 and as we have reported the police did nothing because they had an order from the mayor to, quote, let them loot it's only property. so this was your life savings you put into this? >> exactly. exactly. and i spent a lot of thymeime to work on it, fix everything on it and for just half an hour they destroy everything. i keep calling the police, 911 and nobody answered the phone.

>> reporter: how much money tiddid you lose with everything that's destroyed here? >> like you can see, like $30,000. >> reporter: talk to me about the drugs they got. there's a lot of narcotics now out on the streets right now because they were able to knock over these pharmacies, right? there >> there are. that's correct, leland. wiped everything off the shelves. 99% of everything that was stocked here everything from the back pharmacy shelves to what you see along here has been knocked off, so yeah there's probably quite a few. >> reporter: oxycontin, all that kind of stuff? >> very possibly. yes. >> reporter: tell me about the police response to this. have you felt like they were here to protect you or serve you, or have you felt abandoned? >> no i felt like they were taking orders to specifically only protect human life and it wasn't their job to protect property. >> reporter: what would you want to say to the mayor as a taxpayer and as a businessowner and as a lifeblood of this community that you weren't important enough to protect? >> i think she gave the protesters too much room. there was the right to free

speech and the protest thing, but i think that loose approach was really far too loose and there wasn't enough action to contain it. >> reporter: now, the pharmacist you just heard from has insurance. he's going to re-open in a couple of days. the two other businessowners don't have insurance and the guy who has the mini mart saved for two years to be able to open that business. it was wiped out in 30 minutes. said he would like the mayor, actually to come down and at least visit him if not, of course pay for some of his damages. these businesses are rebuilding of course. they have the concern of what happens the next time there's violence? will the cops show up? and they may worry for good reason. not only if they had the experience of the police not showing up once when they called 911 multiple times, but almost every police officer i have talked to sean is demoralized. they feel hung out to dry. they feel abandoned. and there's a sentiment here of why bother showing up? if things get really ugly or if i have to use force in the minds

of a police officer, am going to be backed up? why should i bother showing up? that's a difficult thing. actually there's a young man we just had come out here sean if we have any questions for him, i'd be happy to talk to him. >> leland it's interesting because my police sources say the same thing. they're disgusted. they say it's a rush to judgment. the gangs are happy, back in the drug business. the store owners are left to clean up the mess. ask him in the aftermath of this when he looks at the community, what he thinks. >> reporter: you lived here a while, right? >> i live in the city of baltimore. >> reporter: you see the aftermath. we're now a week later. it's been a week since that really violent night and we had all the clashes here. do you think things have gotten better worse, or are we right back where we started? >> well seeing as i'm just a resident of baltimore city not necessarily of this side of the city i can't answer that question directly for the people. >> reporter: but what about in baltimore in general? >> in baltimore in general, i will say you shouldn't wait for a dangerous and volatile

situation such as a riot and rampage for the people to come together to fight for any cause. >> reporter: all right. thank you very much. sean we'll send it back to you now. thanks. >> leland thanks so much. joining us also on the ground in baltimore, mike what's the latest there? >> reporter: well looking at the intersection here even by north and penn standards, this is a pretty slow night. people just milling about. i want to bring in a gentleman who's a lifelong resident of this area karim banks. first of all, give me your thoughts this week that you've been through. >> well it's been rough. it's something that's definitely not normal for this area. the people in this area it was definitely a wake-up call and it was very drastic. >> reporter: was anything accomplished? >> i think it was a lot accomplished because prior to this situation, the police brutality here has been crazy. it's been crazy.

and nationalized worldwide and bringing attention to this city. i just think that it made politics as usual turn into we better get in there and do something that's fast. >> reporter: brought some pressure. all right. i appreciate your views. thanks for hanging around to talk to us. >> no problem. >> reporter: this is an individual by the way who says he wants to see the system play out, the justice system. he wants to learn all the facts of what happened with the six officers and doesn't want to see anyone convicted in the facts don't support it. sean? >> all right, mike, thanks so much. and you'll remember, a very excited crowd around geraldo rivera last week. you may remember this. >> reporter: hey, sean. it's a very excited crowd where i am standing right now as the deadline has come. the deadline has come and now we will see if the people clear. i'm with the state senate majority leader. come on. get out of the way, man. get out of the way.

blocking my camera. blocking my camera. come on. stop it. stop it. >> you're making a fool of yourself. you're making a fool of yourself. calm down. stop it. >> wait a minute. >> all right. all right. [ yelling ] >> here in studio with reaction and a behind the scenes of what happened is fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera. you love being in the middle of action. >> you know i hadn't seen that before but he is as obnoxious on tape as he was live i have to say that. >> you were trying to do an interview with the senator. the senate majority leader, she comes from that area. i thought it would be a substantive interview. >> ended up being -- >> agenda. >> a lot of them did -- you had an interesting observation you just told me you feel a lot of the people are professional

agitators and get the crowd worked up then it begins to snowball. >> well there were several different elements of that crowd. there were the occupy wall street and they were definitely the professional agitators, you know they were the ones that in years past went to the group of 7 and the group of 8 and throw and they wreck and they burn then they go on to the next community. they were definitely present. that young man, though comes from baltimore city. and i believe -- i don't know whether or not he participated in the rioting and the looting. i don't know. all i do know is that they have an attitude about fox news but more importantly, it's the media, themselves. they have their own media setup. he wanted desperately to go viral. they wanted to be on -- they wanted to try to provoke me, scare me get in front of the camera. >> i can say a lot of things. you're not easily scared. you want to do your job. let me show a little bit more of some of the action talk more about it. watch this. >> say it to my face. >> you're an agitator. >> who am i agitating? who the [ bleep ] cares about

whether or not i'm agitating you? you don't see me. what do you see? what do you see? >> reporter: getting in my face and trying to stop me from doing my job. >> i'm telling white america stop not giving a damn about black people. >> you've got some real pounding going on here. the cops are swarming over the demonstrators that have defied the curfew. one is being arrested right here. he's being handcuffed behind his back. the captains are coming. they're coming in. the officers have -- look over there. they're really moving them now. all right. i got it. i'm good. >> all right. in that moment -- there were a couple times it seemed you tripped once and you had, i guess somebody as your team what broke their ankle. >> well severely sprained. but he was taken away in the ambulance. there was a lot of kinetic energy at times, that police line. when that curfew came in that was a brilliant move. it should have been imposed on monday night. you would have had a lot less

looting, a lot less violence. it seemed to me they were a day late and a dollar short in terms of their reaction. >> yeah. >> and they were conflicted. they were equivocal. they really were mediocre in terms of their response. when they finally got it going, governor hogan finally got the national guard in -- >> the cops were told to stand down. i've spoken to many cops. they all told me the same thing. it was a standown order. only if they spit in your face it's only property, it doesn't make a big deal don't do anything, don't arrest anybody. >> the problem with the thinking they had the martin luther king riots in 1968. that part of baltimore still bears the scars of that long ago anarchy. now this disruption. who is going to invest in a business there? who is going to -- like the senior center that's been trashed and destroyed. >> the cvs, the liquor store, the convenience store. >> i spoke to a fellow who has a cell phone store totally looted a grocery store, everything gone. it is really pathetic and i

think that this community has suffered a really really awful profound blow. >> i talked to a number of cops today and they tell me off the record they've had it. they're done. in other words, they're not going to take that extra step next time because they feel like they -- nobody has their back. that this was a rush to judgment. you and i talked about this as an attorney you see the emotional reaction people are celebrating, the prosecutor has rushed to judgment. on the other hand they're going to have a very hard time because she overcharged on a lot of these cases. >> those state charges are going nowhere. >> nowhere. >> 90% of them in my opinion. >> let me just say in new york today, a 25-year-old white cop died who had been shot in the face by a black violent career criminal with a record as long as my arm, he was shot on saturday. he succumbed today. 25 years old. just like freddie gray. nobody should die, seann police custody. >> brian moore. >> brian moore. >> right.

>> nobody should die in custody. but what about this cop? what about these officers don't they have civil rights? where's going to be the parade the protests for this cop? >> nothing. nothing. your buddy al sharpton nowhere to be found. >> if this was reversed if this white cop had shot the thug if he had shot the thug in the face there would have been another demonstration in new york. i think this has become the focus of the civil rights movement of this 21st century. it's tragic. there's so much more egregious issues to deal with. >> i got to bring politics into this. as much as the president doesn't help it. the president briefly mentioned the cop, but he talks more about black men, et cetera et cetera experiencing being treated differently by law enforcement. i don't know most law enforcement that way. they have a very difficult job. high crime urban areas. a lot of drugs being dealt to kids including freddie gray. how many times was he arrested for selling narcotics? >> nine times. >> narcotics. heroin. that's what that means. and, you know they've got a

tough job. there's no evidence that's been presented what caused this spinal cord neck injury. no evidence. we don't have any. zero. zip. >> if the arrest is as it appears to be illegal, then i think it's pretty clear that his civil rights were violated. >> i had a cop on friday night that said the cops involved told him that they saw a drug deal and that it ended up being a -- >> that may be but i think that there is very little -- first of all, the prosecutor should be ashamed of herself for basically bringing a political document. that arrest citation for those officers and the speech she made virtually guarantees first of all that the motion for a change of vennue will be granted. no way in god's green earth that trial will be held in the city of baltimore. that's one. number two, i think she's also made a case because of her obvious bias and political motivation for another prosecutor to take her place. a special prosecutor for

fairness. i don't think there's any chance the state charges will go. that's why i think the federal government should go first. >> those of you chanting no justice, no peace, i have heard your calls. to the youth, this is our movement. that is a profound statement lacking objectivity for somebody in that position of power. >> it was a political statement. not -- it should have been the mayor's statement. not the prosecutor's statement. she has to be the people's representative and represent justice for all including the officers who were -- >> so basically the city of baltimore has been set up expecting a result because they've been charged and that result you think, and i think, are not coming. >> it's not going to happen. it's not going to happen on these -- >> no way. >> who killed him? when was he killed? did he get -- >> we haven't seen the -- >> did the fatal injury get inflicted when he was arrested when he was dragged? was it in the vehicle? did he have a severe spasm? >> i had a military emt specialist write me a long note saying this this this and this could have happened. once the treatment started.

including the trach -- >> the president has to come out, go to baltimore and say, listen you've got awful problems here 40% unemployment we're going to work on things, we're going to think of pragmatic -- >> he gave $1.8 billion. >> when the cop says you're under arrest you say, yes, sir. that's how you respond. when you try to fight a cop and resist arrest -- >> you're going to lose. >> you're not only going to lose, you're going to insight a tragedy. >> great reporting, by way. you look like you're 22 years old out there. it's unbelievable. >> all right. >> much more reaction to the situation in baltimore and the charging here of the police officers for the death of freddie gray. was it political? we'll get to that later. a 25-year-old nypd officer died earlier today. he was shot in the face on saturday night while on duty. most of you don't know his name. where's the outrage? where's the protest over his death? we'll examine this glaring double standard. plus tonight a texas strike in heart of texas as radical

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welcome back to "hannity." it was one week ago tonight that rioters destroyed hundreds of businesses in baltimore. now in the wake of last week's destruction, many have criticized local leadership for allowing the widespread kay wroschaos to occur. joining me with reaction to the latest developments out of baltimore, the vice president of the baltimore city naacp, also friends with the gray family. adrian is with us. thank you, sir, for being here. >> thank you. >> my thoughts and prayers to out to the family. we don't know what happened yet. i know a lot of questions still remain. what is the family -- i know the family said they're happy about the charges, but i would argue

that geraldo is right, as an attorney alan dershowitz is right as an attorney, many other attorneys i've spoken to, the prosecution overcharged, rushed to judgment and i don't think this is going to be -- i don't think you're going to get the rlt result you're looking for here. what's the reaction to what they're saying? >> well, i think you have to let the process work. i think our state's attorney marilyn mosby came out real strong. the mayor came out real strong in terms of the charges and, sure, just like anybody else who gets charged with a crime, they have to you know throw everything out there and, you know at the end of the day the jury or the judge decides and the lawyers decide what they're going to put in a motion for to get dismissed or this or that. you got to let the process work and i think, you know at this point, the family -- >> do you have any problem -- let me ask you this question. if in fact let's say this were in reverse and it was somebody else and, let's say it was a white prosecutor and a black

individual being charged, and you had the prosecutor say, i've heard the calls nor justice, no peace, this is our moment. what wouldn't you think that sounds bias? >> you know i agree with you -- >> you agree? >> now, it is bias but you got to understand -- >> yeah, it is. >> i was listening to what you guys were saying in terms of the police and that's the reason why the bill of rights is an issue for police departments all across the country when it comes to police brutality because at the end of the day, everybody should be treated equally, but me personally i honestly don't think that what happened happened maliciously. so you know i think, you know the family everybody's upset. i get it. you know and -- >> so you're basically saying -- >> i sympathize -- >> you're saying from a legal standpoint if it didn't happen maliciously, that means second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter are out the window and that means maybe to appease an angry crowd --

>> no, no -- >> wait a minute. that the prosecutor overcharged for political purposes and for the purposes of maybe quelling a crowd -- >> no no, no. no. no. i mean the prosecutor i think our prosecutor did what she had to do. i mean that's just like -- >> you just said it was done intentionally. >> wait a minute. no. >> but the law matters. >> i said that from a personal -- from a personal standpoint i don't think that you know the gentleman that put on that uniform go out to intentionally hurt folks. >> yeah. >> so at the end of the day, i think the charges were appropriate because they crossed the line. just like any -- >> the law says for second-degree murder you have to have a depraved heart. by your statement you are saying that that does not exist here and that's legally what the jury is going to hear if it ever gets to a jury. let me ask you a last question. is there any other information, evidence that you have in terms of what caused the fatal spinal cord injury or the neck injury? and what are your thoughts on

freddie gray as a person a known drug dealer in the community, and that aspect of his life? do you think that should be relevant relevant? >> yeah i don't think that that should be relevant. freddy fwra isie gray is a citizen, number one citizen of baltimore and he's entitled to the full extent -- >> was he helping the youth of the city by selling drugs? >> well not at all. i don't think that any person -- >> narcotics? >> -- that sells drugs is helping the community. at the end of the day -- >> heroin. >> -- when there's no opportunities and there's no proper guidance these young folks, they do what they think is right. and that's why we have the we can achieve program. at the end of the day, you know what we have to do at this moment is just forget about what freddie gray is -- what his past was. we have to look at -- >> i want to know what caused this injury and so far no evidence has been given, and i think the family has a right to know and the public has a right to know but i'm out of time.

adr adrian thank you, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> here now to discuss where local officials may have gone wrong, our friend sheriff mike lewis is back with us. good to see you. thank you for being here. >> good evening, sean. >> i want to go to what the prosecutor said here. because i've spoken with a lot of police officers and they are livid. they are disgusted and their attitude some have expressed to me is why should i put my neck out and protect the community that is so quick to rush to judgment? have you heard the same thing? >> i've heard the same thing repeatedly sean all week long. as you well know i was up there monday tuesday, and wednesday. we came back for a brief period went back up friday afternoon, worked the streets all night long friday night, saturday nights and we came here yesterday afternoon. i got to tell you, when we warere loading up to come home from baltimore city yesterday, i was surrounded by baltimore city police officers who drove up because they heard i was going to be deploying, heading back to the eastern shore and they wanted to say good-bye. many of them many of them

wrapped their arms around me and i didn't know any of them. but just wanted to thank me forle tofor coming to baltimore. many have told me firsthand, they've had it, they're leaving, they're done with it. >> when you exposed on this program a stand-down order was given by the mayor, herself, in this case that they were thankful because they felt embarrassed as a department because it seemed like they weren't doing their job when in fact they were told not to do their job, right? >> you bet they were told not to do their job. they were put into harm's way in front of felons and told not to do their jobs. >> let me talk about the charges against these officers. every lawyer almost without exception that i've spoken to about this has said "a" it was a rush to judgment, "b" the prosecutor way overcharged "c" the prosecution has to many conflicts of interest and must recuse herself and "d" it's almost 100% that there will be a change in venue because the cops can't get a fair trial there.

your thoughts on all that? >> sean, there's no way they can get a fair and impartial trial in baltimore city. that's absolutely impossible. number two, something that's come out today that i wanted to share with our viewers here tonight, live is whehen miss mosby stood up in front of the world with her theatrics at this press conference last friday she charged two of the wrong people. now, when i say she charged two of the wrong people i don't mean she charged the wrong officers. i mean the wrong people. innocent people. of the six police officers that were charged, two of them were charged under the wrong names, the wrong dates of birth, and the wrong addresses. >> wow. >> and because of that reporters went to the addresses of these innocent people, these private citizens whose lives have now been invaded. they went to their homes, knocked on their doors. they harassed them. they went to their neighbors and attempted to get interviews. it wasn't until these innocent people these private citizens contacted their local states

attorney's office that this problem was rectified over the weekend. >> unbelievable. >> i mean they put their lives in danger. they had these individuals knocking on their doors, disrupting their lives, leading them to believe they were the ones who had been charged. if you go on the judicial website in maryland you can see they've been charged with these crimes. these are innocent people. >> sheriff, last question, i'm running out tofof time. >> that's a direct result of a hasty -- >> rush to judgment. >> prosecutor who wants to charge these individuals. >> do you believe the citizens of baltimore are being set up to anticipate and expect a verdict that is unlikely to come their way? >> absolutely. >> i believe that. >> there's no question about it. >> all right. thank you, sir, for being with us. appreciate it. coming up -- >> thank you, sean. >> -- this next story is heartbreaking. earlier today a 25-year-old nypd officer, do you know his name? he died after being shot in the face while on duty late saturday night. so where are the protesters? where's the outrage at this killing? we'll examine this glaring hypocrisy. later, radical islamists

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>> we know the answer to that. cops' lives don't matter. that's why. my thoughts and prayers are with the survivors of, the family members of brian moore and with my colleagues at the nypdcommissioner bratton. i was out there a month ago, spent a lot of time with street officers told them to keep their chin up that i was proud of them. brian moore struck down in the prime of his life serving his community by a black suspect. buy wrap rian mooarre is a white officer. no doubt had brian moore shot and killed the suspect that shot him, it would have led to every news outlet in america and would have said white officer shoots black suspect. black suspect. i think that's sick. that's what we've come to in the united states. >> but sheriff, when you look at the numbers, the number of black americans that are shot by police officers depending on which statistic you use, is maybe in the 130 range. when you look on black-on-black

murders, crime, killings homicides, that number is close to 9,000. we never hear about those people that are killed in chicago, in detroit, in inner cities in america. but it's only when the police are involved in a shooting everybody wants to just race out there and condemn the cops. how do they do their job in this environment now? >> well you know we have big shoulders, and we volunteered for this. that's why i tell these cops keep their chin up. you know the black-on-black crime that occurs in these urban centers across america should bring tears to the eyes of a brass monkey but of course that's glossed over, that's swept over the rug. in one of these rare instances. you know what they're all tragic. one of these rare instances where a law enforcement officer has to use force to defend himself or the life of somebody else and takes the life of a black individual you know all of a sudden the sky is falling. you know i don't have the answer for this but i know this much. that the occurrences of white --

of any officer shooting a black suspect, the figures i've seen between 2009 and 2012 about 34% of officers using force against black males. and in that same time period 61% of the people killed by law enforcement officers were white. that's the reality. that's the statistic. that's the data to support the fact that it is a myth that law enforcement officers indiscriminately target or shoot black males as if it's some sort of sport. >> rebecca, let me bring you into this. >> thank you. >> do you believe the prosecutor here joef stepoverstepped their bounds saying this is our movement and those crying no justice, no peace, do you believe she overcharged these officers and rushed to judgment? >> absolutely. i agree with everything that way. but i want to get back to what you're talking about and give you three things. first of all, most of america is not thrilled with these demonstrations. most of us are extremely sick of al sharpton and the civil rights

attorney who come preaching their stories which are usually inaccurate. then we're sick of violence that comes with it. that's number one. number two, i'm in montgomery county. i am dealing with police abuse every single day. i have a case tomorrow. i brought a picture of my gentleman whose face is bashed in his lip is gone, his eyes are crushed. the jail wouldn't even take him. they made the police bring him back to the hospital. and the report says he beat up five police officers and then he flung himself off of the stairs even though his legs are all scratched up from being dragged down the stairs. i can go on and on. >> this is a personal case -- >> there are no -- >> were you there? i mean i wasn't there. >> i am a defense attorney. i have all of the facts. i go to trial. i win all of the time. my guy shot seven times for being on the -- i had two jury trials.

yes, i won. >> so you're saying cops are out of control, is that your narrative? >> i am saying it used to be that cops were wonderful. i love them all. and it is heartbreaking for someone who's a true believer whose dad is a marine who loves police officers that they don't protect and serve anymore. they look at you, they order you -- >> that's a broad sweeping statement you're making. that they don't protect and serve anymore, they don't. >> i do it every day of my life. >> i understand. you make money -- you're making money off of this. my question to you -- >> i do pro bono. >> everything ses's pro bono? every -- >> that jury trial for the -- >> you don't ever get a percentage -- >> every jury trial is pro bono. >> every case? >> i'm a criminal defense attorney. i don't take any civil cases. >> don't be embarrassed over it it's a way to make a living. >> okay. the third thing i was going to say is every time a police officer is killed, it is

heartbreaking, but the one thing is they have their support, sean. there's hundreds of police officers that line up and support the police officers. >> i'm asking where are the people that were protesting where are the al sharpton where are the people that show up in ferguson but won't show up for the officers? >> i have six dead bodies in montgomery county. >> a huge double standard. >> not one person protested. >> you have a personal something going on here that -- >> no i'm just a lawyer. >> it sounds like it. sounds like you have a personal investment in. i have to run. thank you both for being with us. coming up two radical islamists opened fire at a texas free speech event organized by pam geller last night. she's here to explain what happened. plus we have a live report from the scene straight ahead. ♪ ♪ the beautiful sound of customers

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welcome back to "hannity." an investigation is under way tonight into the backgrounds of two gunmen who launched an attack on a free speech event in

texas where cartoons of the prophet muhammad were displayed. joining us from the scene tonight is our own jonathan hunt, jonathan what do you got? >> reporter: sean the investigators have finally wrapped up here at the initial crime scene. having spent all day painstakingly sifting through the evidence. the shell casings and other evidence inside and outside the car in which the two shooters arrived. they arrived, of course armed with assault rifles and wearing body armor, but they were ultimately no match for one traffic cop armed with a pistol and the s.w.a.t. team members who came to his aid. officials named the shooters as elton simpson and nadir soofi who apparently shared an apartment 1,000 miles away in phoenix, arizona. that apartment and two vehicles have been the subject of a day-long searchfy fbi and local police who apparently removed

items of potential evidence. now, simpson was known to the fbi and was apparently convicted in 2011 of lying to federal agents about plans to travel to somalia. now, as you know the shooters appeared to have targeted this event because it was a contest for the best cartoon depicting the prophet muhammad. now, depicting the prophet in any way is blasphemy in the islamic religion. the white house press secretary josh ernest said today the president believes that any act of express as he put it even if it offends some people is not a justification for violence. sean? >> all right, jonathan, thank you. here with reaction, the organizer of that event, pamela geller and breitbart texas managing editor brandon darby who was there covering the event. let me go to -- chris matthews i mean this is the mindset of the media. i'm not sure what part of the first amendment freedom of speech they don't understand but he's saying well does in

some way these events well, not the word causing, does it cause these events or provoke or taunt or daring? and then the so-called muslim expert says well you know when you provoke people and insight people it doesn't make the violence right, but don't be surprised if it happens. so you can't draw a cartoon of the prophet muhammad without expecting this violence? is this how far we have sunk that we've got to capitulate in this way? >> yes. that's how far the left has sunk. the idea is that in this country, country of freedom of speech that they will not analyze, look at or even discuss the ideology behind the slaughter, the wholesale slaughter of those that will criticize, mock or insult islam, speaks volumes. >> but you were steadfast in saying you speak out against radical islamists that are persecuting christians persecuting jews threatening to

wipe israel off the map, and you're standing up for the idea. >> yes. >> of? >> ofreedom of speech. look this -- this event -- how did this event come about? back after the "charlie hebdo" murders, you remember the jihad murders. >> yes, of course. >> these cartoonists were slain over a cartoon. think about that. i will hold a thousand exhibits to stand in solidarity with the "charlie hebdo" editorial staff. in the wake of that jihad slaughter, a number of muslim groups held a stand with the prophet conference supporting the sharia restrictions against free speech supporting the ideology behind the "hebdo" jihadists. >> am i interpreting wrong? you will not be dictated to what you can and cannot say, what you're not going to allow after the danish cartoon incident "charlie hebdo" incident you're saying, no this is america. >> yes. >> and we are not going to give into this political correctness

or this demand that we can't draw a cartoon? >> bingo. we are not going to abridge our freedom so as not to offend savages. >> why is a cartoon -- let me go to brandon darby coughvering the event. tell us from your perspective how you perceive the events and what you saw go down. >> sean thanks for having me on on. my entire team three of my team members were in the event. i covered the outside. i decided to cover the protests outside but it was very strange because there were actually no protests outside. thankfully i got in the car and began to drive around to look for protests and that's why i wasn't right in the epicenter when the shots happened. i found that to be very strange. i found the reaction you know the reaction from law enforcement to be amazing. they saved lives, law enforcement saved lives yesterday. and i -- i've been in shock watching the media reaction today in the way that they've

treated pamela geller. >> yeah. >> and the way that they've treated tsh -- >> it doesn't surprise me. they're afraid to say the words radical islam like the president is afraid to say it. brandon darby, through breitbart i got the initial report last night. stay with us. >> thank you. more on last night's terror attack in texas. why aren't more prominent muslim leaders coming out against these radical islamists and why are those in the religion of islam so offended by a cartoon? that debate is straight ahead. you know, in any job any profession image matters. i want some gray...but not too much. only touch of gray uses oxygen to gently blend away some gray but not all for that perfect salt and pepper look. satisfaction guaranteed. just you and the look you want. just for men touch of gray

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welcome back to "hannity ". in the wake of the muslim texas attacks why haven't leaders in the community condemned it? i look at the danish cartoon incident imam and now, texas why are so many people in your religion so offended by a cartoon? why does this happen in the name of a cartoon? can you explain that? >> you can be offended by something, but you don't have to react to it in a -- >> but it is happening it happens every time about cartoons i'm a christian i didn't like the crucifixion

urine i didn't like the virgin mary with elephant dung." this is the third time. why? >> it's unacceptable. by the same token we do feel miss geller's crusade is against the good spirit of america. but she has every right to do what she's doing i don't think it's going to cause the positive things the american citizens are trying to accomplish. >> the word crusade. in muslim countries if you blast him, you're put to death. here in the west they demean and libel you the fact is that media is given the power to the western world. in 2005 if every media outlet ran these cartoons they couldn't everybody but by not running them they gave jihadists the power.

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