iing up social media. people standing up foreign policy the flag and deciding to say they're not going to stop. a lot of people bled for the flag. another by the dawn's early light. great seeing you guys. >> you've been here since dawn. bill: for the first time isis # isis threatening there is more to come. martha: the police are identifying these two gunmen. they say they are roommates elton simpson and nadir soofi. simpson has been on the f.b.i. radar for 10 years. but the chairman of the homeland committee says a direct link to the group may be premature.

>> there is no specific evidence this was directed overseas by isis. rather this is one of these radicalized over the internet type individuals. this is the kind of attack that we are most concerned about. bill: have the fed verified this claim from isis and what are we learning about the links to this group? >> reporter: the u.s. intelligence committee is still assessing this claim by isis. a counter-terrorism source tells fox news twitter traffic reveals connections between one of the gunmen and established handles overseas suggesting isis operatives had contact with the gunmen before the attack.

within hours of the attack established isis twitter handles had established contact using phrases up as we tried to reach him but just missed him. sources say the social media appeared to show commitment and encouragement. we are also trying to get information about the facebook account of nadir soofi whose account has now been taken down and he once studied in pack and. the republican chairman of the house homeland security committee told fox there was a joint f.b.i.-homeland security bulletin circulated in the days leading in the up to the attack. it was because of that bulletin

that security was ramped up in texas, understanding the events was a target. >> the dutch legislator who was at the event warned in advance that there could be an attack potential terrorist attack at this event and i think the precautions were taken. the good news is it was stopped. >> reporter: one of the things we are starting to see among intelligence officials is an evolution of what it means to direct an attack. in this case the men had a standing order to attack at the best time of their choosing. and that's similar to the shooting we saw in france at "charlie hebdo." it's not a direct call to act but an understanding they will launch an attack on behalf of a

terrorist group when the timing suits. martha: we are hearing from one of the suspect's mothers nadir soofi saying she had no clue her son had such radical political beliefs, saying her son had a normal american upbringing. >> i have no idea how he could come to do something like this. he wanted to practice islam as it was meant to be practiced and not in any extreme form. martha: his mother says she does not blame the officer who shot and killed her son. bill: were these gunmen isis i am agunmen is --isis gunmenner to just sympathizers and does it matter. martha: pamela dwell i are

organized the events. we'll ask her what she thinks about that. martha: another potential presidential contender prepares to make his campaign official. former arkansas governor mike huckabee is set to declare his candidacy for the presidency in his hometown of hope, arkansas. he talked to bret baier about his path to the nomination. >> we know iowa will be an important part of that path. there will be an expectation that i will do well there. i don't know nor would i declare i have got to win iowa or i can't go forward. that would be absurd because it's not all based on one state. but clearly coming out of iowa

is important. >> reporter: with mike huckabee's getting into the race in a couple hours. he grew up just down the street from where president clinton was born. it's about trying to recapture the magic of the 2008 campaign where he came out of virtually nowhere. the big coup for him back then was the big win in iowa. i asked him is it possible he could do it again? >> reporter: can lightning strike twice in iowa? >> lightning can strike tweet but you have to make sure the conditions are right. i look at it as i did eight years ago. you have got to start and build the team one person at a time.

>> reporter: huckabee has more competition from social conservatives this time around. then there is the issue of money. it was a big problem for him in 2008. >> one of the weaknesses he showed last time around was the inability to raise the big money required. if the money is there we know the campaign skills are there. >> reporter: huckabee said if he hopes to win the nomination for president he needs to broaden his appeal for voters and for money and include other conservative groups. >> once you throw your hat in the ring you will get attacked and apparently that's already happening to mike huckabee.

>> reporter: $100,000 ad in sioux city iowa claiming he was responsible for raising taxes. so not even out of the box and already the gloves are off. martha: john were thank you. bill: governor huckabee is good on the stump and as john roberts points out he has a lot more competition in places like iowa. >> he does have a lot of competition. he's good at politics but as you and a john pointed out. ted cruz stands on nuke -- on on

huckabee's hopes. huckabee has to play catch-up. attitudes about huckabee are set. he needs to change people's thinking. he's not just a guy to plays the bass. he's a guy who is a fighter and is in this thing to win it. that's the perception he has to overcome. bill: look at the "wall street journal" poll. if you went little deemer you would find huckabee. marco rubio is at the moment most republicans can support if he's on the ticket. what does that say? >> it says as american voters

focus on foreign policy he's there to meet them. maybe rubio isn't in the lead in the raw horse race. but when we look at second place and willingness to support rubio jumps way out. that's a good place to be. the place nobody the field is to have people amenable to you. 21% of republicans in the field didn't even know who scott walker was. as walker becomes famous. if he continues to win over supporters with the race he has and name identification he has he will be a formidable go to fight jeb bush to the finish. bill: thank you sir. chris tires -- chrisstirewalt in washington.

martha: isis claims to be behind the attack this week we saw in texas. that's a big revelation. we have new details about these gunmen. an f.b.i. informant secretly recorded conversations with this man for years. what did the intel community know about him and how closely were his actions being tracked. bill: there was panic on a highway. a biker pinned under a pickup truck. the amazing rescue to get him free. martha: hillary clinton saying she'll testify one more time on benghazi and for one day only.

will she take a different tack oral will she double down. >> we have four dead americans. was it because of a protest or because to guys out for a walk decided to kill four americans. what difference does it make? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the ones with the guts to stand apart -

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general dunford has an extensive background including oversea overseeing the u.s. forces in afghanistan. bill: isis claims responsibilities for an attack in texas. it turns out elton simpson first saw the f.b.i.'s radar in 2006 when an informant started secretly recording their conversations within a lot of them. simpson's family issued a statement saying we are sure people in this country want to know if we had any idea about elton's plans and we can assure you we did not. like every one we are struggling to understand how this could

happen. i know you have not yet been briefed. what can you add to this story? >> it shows what a threat isis is to our homeland. we need to put this in perspective. the fact they claimed responsibility. whether they were inspired by isis or had direct comun cakes with isis. we had six arrested in minnesota. you had the man fromio who did travel to syria and came back to the united states and was planning attacks on our country. we had the army recruiter who was going to join isis along with a member of the guard. this is all in april alone. this is a threat to us, and making sure we address -- we'll have social media on isis's use

of social media. bill: do we need our own federal authorities to verify this claim? >> the f.b.i. is investigating this. the federal authorities have to investigate it on two front. did they have direct communications with isis or was this self-radicalized. look at the history of the communications that simpson had and whether there is more that should have been done there in terms of addressing his beshave year. bill: i mention these recordings. if you get shot straightaway that's what we are here for. why not take that route. the recordings went for 1,500 hours. for all of that you had a guilty

charge a minor charge of flying a federal agent. that shows how heard it is to detect and how difficult it is to stop. >> i think you are right bill. we have to look at this case and see what do we learn from it. how do we make sure when we have this kind of evidence in the future we are able to stop someone in advance. we have to look what the they are doing in terms of communicating with isis. how do we insure we are ahead of these attacks instead reacting to them. this is isis. they are incredibly brutal, horrific and inspiring these attacks, not just what happens in iraq and syria. we can see it in our homeland. bill: their strategy changes all the time, so must ours. bill: here is another frorgd

simpson. they are trying to bring democracy over there you are trying to make us live by man made laws, not allah's laws. that's why they fight to the death. >> this is radical islam. we have to call it for what it is. and we have to go after it and understand this ideology that does not value life. they are willing to give their lives and kill other people for this radical view of islam. bill: senator thank you for your time today. martha: the clinton's defiant bill standing firm on his big-money speeches while hillary agrees to testify on benghazi with a big condition attached. bill: saudi airstrikes are said to hit one of the country's

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bill: smoke and planes tearing through several several planes at the airport in yemen. rebels placed the country's president under house arrest. martha: hillary clinton will testify on benghazi but she'll do it one day. they want to talk to her one day on benghazi and another day on the private house server with

government emails. she says she'll stay one day to testify on the committees questions. but she won't stay longer when one day will suffice. >> this is standard clinton tactic. she is afraid of this committee. i think she should be. unlike earlier testimony before the house on benghazi. i think they will be more disciplined. under trey gowdy they will have a more prosecutorial approach to ask questions not listen to their own rhetoric. what it says is maybe congressman gowdy came in too low. maybe he should have asked for four days of hearings. martha: i heard trey gowdy say

he doesn't want her to come back until we get the documents. >> this time there is no argument it's the committee prolonging it for political reasons. any good litigator will tell you they want to see the documents then talk to the witnesses. another possibility given the house foreign affairs committee has oversight jurisdiction over the state department, maybe they ought to pick up the email server point and have former secretary clinton testify. martha: she need to answer questions, but she doesn't sit down for interviews. these potential republican candidate are out there all the time answering questions. at some point she has to answer people's questions. this would be a tough forum for her because these guys have been going through the document they

have. >> reporter: the other thing committee ought to do is get her testimony in closed session. secretary clinton avoided questions on benghazi from the beginning. remember susan rice's appearance on five sunday talk shows. secretary clinton should have been on those five shows answering the questions then. she dodged it from the get-go. martha: i have doubts as to whether or not she'll sit in front of them. if she doesn't produce the documents they want, her lawyer says everything she ever worked on is also in the government server. >> i think there is a lot more to look through. as we saw in the case of the irs

emails. the famous rose law firm files turned up in her closet. if i were gowdy i would not give up. you can't blame him for pushing this into the election season. he's doing the best he can. bill: his fellow officers loved him. they talk about a bright future ahead for him as new details emerge about the new york city police officer shot and killed in the line of duty. martha: critics of the event in texas. >> you don't have to inflame people with these cartoons. they invited this and now we have people who are dead.

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bill: attorney general loretta lynch will go to baltimore. she has been watching the protests in the city after the death of 25-year-old freddie gray. she is expected to meet with members of congress and members of congress. martha: isis terrorists are claiming responsibility for the attacks we saw this week at a texas museum hosting a mohammad cartoon contest. joined now by pamela geller who organized sunday's event. she is the founder of atlas shrugged.com. it looks like there is some sort of link. whether it's direct or not we are not so sure. >> it many interchangeable. the islamic state al qaeda,

al-shabaab. they are imposing islamic law across the world and using the most violent means. the fact they were he inspired by islam or in this case the islamic state is no surprise. they see themselves under the same umbrella. martha: you have got and lot of criticism obviously. you are also getting it from some conservatives. bill donahue and donald trump speak out against what you do. >> when you embolden people, the haters, you are going to get violence. why would anyone want to intentionally taunt other people. >> i watched pam prior and it looks like she is taunting everybody. what is she doing drawing mohammad and it looks like she

is taunting people. it's disgusting it happened. but why are they drawing mohammad. >> mr. donahue is emboldening them by giving them the sanction of the victim. as far as mr. trump goes he flaps his tongue and uses free speech to silence others. there was a war going on. what would he have said about rosa parks. she should never have gone to the front of the bus she is taunting people. they are saying if you want to do it, you do it in a christian way, you don't do it in a crass crude way by insulting someone's religion. you do it by rising above that saying we are not like you. we won't attack your religion. >> i will not abridge my freedom so as not to offend savages. we weren't denigrating the

religion. political cartoons is political opinion. when you seek to impose the sharia restrictions every islam on free speech, that's a political movement. martha: they are saying that's not how we do things here. we want to be a cut above --r above that behavior. you bring up political cartoons, the "charlie hebdo" comparison has been made. >> we don't organize contests. we just do our work. we comment on the news. when muhammad jumped out in the news we draw him out. martha: they are saying whatever is going on in the world we make a political comment. we are not particularly aimed -- they have done cartoons that

would be offensive to christians as well. >> they die for their speech and that's what we stand with. i may have a difference of opinion but i'll fight to the death their right to say it. this is political islam seeking to impose restrictions on free speech. you are asking me to abridge my speech so as not to offend savages. i'm looking to rise everybody up and equality for all before the law. this country the elemental element was freedom of speech. we have to have more of these conferences because the media self-enforces the sharia. you gave them the power. if all the media had run the cartoons what were they going to do? they couldn't kill everybody. the media offend me without hesitation.

so obviously i believe giving into this savagery is a critical mistake. this is the language of the conqueror is what we are listening to. martha: i understand what you are saying. but in order to reach the goal where you combat islamic extremism and terrorism which everybody on the side of civilization wants to do, but i look at the example of pope francis who went into a mosque in turkey to pray for the end of the war. this is a different way of going about achieving the goal to bring an end to islamic extremism. >> you are not achieving the goal. martha: but how does what you did start to achieve that goal. >> based on what you are saying the christians in the middle east should convert because they

are insulting islam. they are insulting islam by remaining christians. martha: they are not change their belief systems. >> it's required under islam they convert and it's required under islam that i abridge my peach. martha: you want people to have the opportunity to draw the cartoons. >> the winner of the cartoon contest is a former muslim. martha: i thought it was an interesting cartoon. >> and nobody will show it. the man risked his life and the american media won't show that cartoon. it's shameful. martha: i get where you are coming from. i'm not sure you went about it the right way. >> you are looking to restrict my speech. martha: pam thank you very

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medals. he was shot in the face when he attempted to stop a man suspected of carrying a hand handgun. officers lined up to salute the ambulance as his body was carried away from the hospital. >> she is now running for president. will you continue to give speeches? >> oh, yeah. i have got to pay our bills. i also give a lot to the foundation every year. we have got a lot to do. bill: hillary clinton's campaign is taking a stand against the new book "clinton cash." the book goes on sale today the same day the website goes public. kind of makes sense. a.b. ladies first. in this era you launch web sites. but does this suggest something

else of concern southern behalf of the clinton team? >> i think the clinton team is worried about this book. there are so many story lines in the book that can be individual investigations by fox or the "new york times" or the "wall street journal." they think one comprehensive answer on the website they think will help them. they will hear us talking about what the foundation did in terms of its influence around the world. what donors from the foundation were seeking in terms of influence through the secretary of state and the current president. and they are going to wonder why there is an email server with no emails left before and a candidate who doesn't want top talk about this at the microphone. bill: let me talk about those numbers in a moment. did bill clinton help matters yesterday or was that a

throwback osha setback. >> he's one of the best communicators on the planet. at his worst he's self-it yig and out of touch and that was him at his worst. he's basically creating the impression unless he's doing these speeches for half a million a pop that his lights will go out in his little shack live something where off the grid instead of funding the top of the 1% kinds of lifestyle t clintons have. that will be the disconnect. that goes to the mayor tough of her lifestyle and her elizabeth warren type. youpopulist. bill: the negative views are up to 42%. >> i think these numbers are

terrible. she'll take heart in the fact that the numbers in the new polls show the democrats will stick with her. but there is no alternative for them. elizabeth warren says she is not running. so she is the nominee. then what in the problem is she'll testify before the benghazi committee. these story are the not going away on the influence of the foundation. she'll always be asked by the nominee on the republican side. those emails must have been erased too right? those trust numbers will count in 2016. bill: that goes to creditability, right rich? >> absolutely. this erosion has been so stark and so steep just over the last several weeks. her numbers in honesty have

plummeted. she is going to be a well-heeled person make this populist case. she need a foundation of credibility to bridge that gap between her lifestyle and her message. these polls are indicating that foundation of credibility and trustworthiness is not going to be there. bill: here is the tweet shoot the messenger keep the cash, delete the emails. ron fournier worked with the clintons and you see him often. you shoot the messenger you go after people like swierts you keep the money and you delete the evidence, in this case the emails. >> that's what we saw bill

clinton do yesterday. he's always talking about how the republicans want to tear them down. they didn't knowingly do anything inappropriate but there is a sea of connections between her service and her future service because we can't see the evidence of. she destroyed government property. the tactic is always to say the republicans are coming after them and they are crazy. >> also to say if you can't prove in a locked down case a criminal case of bribery we did nothing wrong. bill: thank you guys. we have to pay some bills otherwise wee would keep going. martha: will you be able to retire at 65. more people from saying they won't have enough saved to kick back and enjoy those golden

years. bill: what led to the unexpected death of cheryl and berg's husband while he was on vacation with his family.

bill: good samaritans struggling to free a cyclists dragged by a truck in southern california. witnesses noticed the biker wedged under the truck and flagged the driver to stop. they used a jack to lift the truck before the ambulance arrived and the biker was conscious the entire time. through all of that only minor injuries. they had to stop the driver to

let him know he was down there. martha: tragic circumstances surrounding the sudden death of facebook ceo sheryl sandberg's husband. officials say dave goldberg fell off of a treadmill at a resort hotel and died of blunt force trauma. awful tragedy for her and her family. >> reporter: david goldberg appears to have lost his balance on a treadmill while on vacation in mexico with his wife facebook ceo sheryl sandberg. an official said goldberg fell and hit the back of his head at a mexican resort. he was found hours later by his brother.

there will be a private funeral at stanford university. his death had an effect across the tech and media word. his wife sheryl sandberg is a disney board member. he is known as great dad a successful entrepreneur and a champion of women in the workplace. sheryl sandberg highlighted in her book how her major to goldberg made parenthood and corporate success possible. she said the most important decision a woman makes is if she has a life partner and who that life partner will be, the best decision i ever made was to marry death. president obama said he was heartbroken by goldberg's death. he posted that dave goldberg embodied the defend fission of a

real leader. he cared less about the limelight than making sure the people he worked with and loved succeeded in what they did. dave goldberg was 47 years old. bill: our prayers and thoughts are with the family. a well-known guy and well respected. now a loss. i want to get to this out of hope arkansas. you know who is from hope, arkansas? bill clinton and governor mike huckabee is another. he has a big announcement about an hour from now. can he repeat the success he had in iowa from 2008? that's a big moment for him. we'll check in with the governor on that. martha: isis claims responsibility for the attack on a muhammad drawing contest in texas.

their first attack on u.s. soil as we learn more about the deceased gunmen.

he ran n in 2008 when he won iowa and did rather well for himself. you can expect he will run on an econonist poplar motive of projecting american jobs and workers. that is the blue coller message he ran on before and is known for through his fox tv show and

has appeal in the republican primary. >> there are other folks trying to take the same space. >> true. rick santorum is going to make the same arguments and that led him to a victory or tie in iowa in 2012 and among social conservatives in iowa. you will have ted cruz rick perry, it is a crowded field and that makes it a more difficult challenge for mike huckabee this time around. >> scott walker who hasn't declared checks the box in a few of these categories. if he gets in how does that affect mike huckabee when he gets to new hampshire? >> i think it affects him in a number of ways. we have seen scott walker change

his immigration position and go to a place where he is more aligned with the arguments that huckabee is making and santorum made in 2012. scott walker will be able to talk to people particularly in iowa saying i am from here. he spent time growing up in iowa lived in wisconsin for decades and can say i speak your language and understand your problems. that is his main selling point and will present a challenge to huckabee. >> and huckabee will have to convince people he is strong on the economy, strong on foreign policy, and areas that people don't think of him perhaps as being that associated with. >> that is right. it will be interesting to see where he goes with foreign policy. if you remember back to the 2008 campaign, he wrote a long article in a foreign policy

magazine challenging bush's foreign policies and called for a more humble policy, some of the things you heard from then obama. i will be interested to see where he goes with that part of his running. >> 11 o'clock is when we expect that announcement. hilary clinton is releasing a video fighting back against improper donations to her family's charity. the claim is laid out in the book clinton cash and the book is going public today. here fallon challenging some of the acquisitions in the book. >> the book is being debunked. it is full of sloppy research attacked pulled out of thin air with no evidence and missing the

most important thing; facts. >> so they are pushing back. this is the strategy that is evolving. >> they need to push back. hilary clinton's negatives have gone from 36% to 42% in one month. that is falling another poll showing in battle ground states like iowa voters are saying she is not honest and truthworthy. she is not out there pushing back. yesterday it was bill clinton, today it was brian fallon. she is going to nevada today to get out there with the rhetoric. but she is making a beating. >> a quarter find her trust worthy. 25%. and the negative votes went up how much? 7% >> in a month.

it is a crowded republican field yes but hilary clinton may be damaged as well by the fact she doesn't have competition. bernie sanders is out there saying he is not tough enough on wall street. maybe o'mally and web might run. what is filling the vacuum of no competition? negative stories. >> watt did you pick up on the inside of clinton world as to whether or not they thought bill helped her hurt yesterday? >> for the record they are saying he helped. but in private some democrats are saying he didn't move the ball forward in terms of pushing back. he raised more questions saying i am not giving up the pricy speeches because i need to pay the bills. that is a flashback to the interview of hilary clinton having her book coming out saying we were dead broke.

think about it. bill clinton one of the best politicians of the last yen generation or maybe any generation. slipped up a little in 2008 against obama with racial comments. that wasn't a strong start this time. >> going to nevada a state with a strong union vote. >> they turned against her in '08 for obama. >> they did. do you get a sense she is ready to answer questions at the moment? >> not at the moment but the appropriate time. but when it is the appropriate time? we have carly fiorina on yesterday, the only female republican candidate so far, carly had a conference calls with reporters yesterday. she has nowhere near name identity so needs to talk to

reporters but why isn't hilary clinton doing conference calls interviews? all of this is piling up. >> thank you ed talk to you soon. fox news alert. isis claims responsibility for the attack in texas that left a security guard injured. that is the first time the terror group has taken credit for an attack on american soil. we are learning more about the two gunmen killed during the shoot out. casey siegel is live. what is the latest on this investigation? >> reporter: police have now cleared the scene. people are coming and going from the community center that was very much an active crime scene yesterday when we talked to you. but the investigation is ongoing. the two suspects were from phoenix arizona.

34-year-old elton simpson and 34-year-old nadir soofi were roof roommates and the fbi descended on their argument looking for evidence of them supporting the terrorist claim. those who knew the two men cannot get their mind around this. >> my interaction with them and a lot of other people in the mosque was they were not these type of people. >> reporter: elton simpson's family released a statement saying they send their prayers to everyone affected by this quote senseless tragedy. >> senseless it is. one of these suspects was being investigate and the fbi knew about him right? >> reporter: that is correct. elton simpson. going back to 2006. multiple incidents. according to court documents he told an fbi informant he wanted to travel to somalia to fight

with the radical brothers. the feds believe they were trying to set-up a terror cell in arizona but never did jail time. from what we found the other gunman didn't have a record. >> now the question is could there be more potential shooters out there. if so can the feds find them before it is too late. you saw how difficult it was to stop this one. >> and why the former head of the cia says the u.s. intelligence agency dropped the ball on al-qaeda. michael haden is here. and a school bus driver in hot water for refusing to let the kids get off the bus.

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okay. >> oh man i am home for dinner. he walked away from this with a slight burn from the airbag. state of tennessee. that is a miracle. so as we continue to investigate the story we broke this morning isis was directly connected to the attack on a texas prophet mohammed cartoon contest. the chairman of the house home homeland committee warning this style of attack is the hardest to stop. >> i think the most difficult terrorist to stop is the one who is radicalized over the internet. this is a good case and point and case study for law enforcement how to stop terrorist attacks in the future. i think we will see more and more of these cases popping up in the future and our ability to monitor events monitor websites, and stop individuals from carrying out terrorist attacks like this is going to be

critical. >> chris lindy is here fox news terrorist analyst and author of future jihad, terrorist strategy used against the west. a lot of discussion on how strong the connection was to isis. clearly they had islamic, radical intentions, does it matter how closely they are aligned? >> it does in the matter of strategic containment meaning that is telling us isis can order cells or individuals into action. but not in terms of radicalization. you have a much larger pool in the united states of individuals who have been indoctrine and radicalized and then you ask yourselves are they connected to isis or al-qaeda or not. that is an issue of intelligence to detect.

>> in terms of minding these people in our country -- finding -- how good are we at this? i know we changed the rules about warrant. it is proper to get a warrant to tap someone's cellphone in the country. do you think that is a good idea? >> i think it is more difficult over the past 5-8 years because we have removed the most important tool which is the narrative. when we have a case like this in the media and government what do we do? we ask facebook or twitter. that has to be done before in a wider scale. once the case is over and they are dead we are realizing they have a narrative that was radical. we need to detect the narrative before they act. >> but the one individual, elton simpson the fbi knew about him for ten years. when you look at the boston bomber and this situation do we have enough ability to survey

these individuals and keep a watch on them >> we don't. because we have citizens and i would say 65 cases we had in north america including united states have been important for the first line of detection. second is law enforcement. they used to have programs in new york like a counter organization with jihad and it has been removed. the more we remove the abilities it is more difficult for the government to detect them. >> we are in a worse position now to unearth plots and keep tabs on people who want to do us harm. it sounds like you believe we will see more and more incidents like this and it is very frightening. >> it is. it is like a comb that is open. law enforcement and universities

have done this. we see the type of people involved is widening. it is conflict and non-conflict. people who travel and non-travel. it is females and males. it is nationalities. you have people radicalized here who never travelled. >> this is very controversial. we had a strong discussion about it a while ago and a lot on twitter about this and on opposite sides. what did you think of the cartoon contest in texas? separate from the violence that we all condemn. >> this is how i look at it; there is a dimension of national security and another one which is cultural. we don't have an answer for that. what is clashing is a group that says constitution allows us to say anything we want and another group from a political

perspective says if you say some things you will attract danger. do we have a national answer for that? i don't have one. but from the national standpoint we need to protect regardless of debate or cartoons. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. the golden age of the comfortable retirement. is that a think of the past? why more americans are staying on the job a lot longer. and then there is this: >> look at that. crowd went wild literally. how this soccer game turned into an out of control brawl. where it was we will tell you.

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that was a wild scene after a soccer game in brazil. watch this: >> out of control. they were in a frenzy climbing over the railing and charged over the field as the home teen won. the police fired stun grenades and smoke bombs to clear the stadiums but that didn't work. fans fought in the stands for nearly 40 minutes before it calmed down. police made several arrest reviewing the video to identity suspects. retirement as we know it could be a think of the past. 82% of americans age 60 or older are working or expected to work

past the age of 65 and retirement is transforming. stuart varney from the fox business network. this man will never retire. what does this study say to you? >> it says the whole idea of getting to a certain age and quitting working for the rest of your life is gone. the idea you get to 65 quit and another do another day's work of life is over. 80% of the people age 60 and beyond are saying we have to work beyond 65. and 20% say we will work until the day we die. >> what is changing in america? what is changing in our society that would lead to feelings like that? >> the 2008 crash wiped out investment money people piled up. the crash wiped them out and they are in no position to retire at 65. number two, we are living a lot

longer. life expectancy for females is 80 and 79 for the male. we went up three years and that is an increase in longevity. 65 is the new 45. >> the new 25! the other factor i think, is the way that we would rely on our investments and savings. you could by a cd and get 5% for a long time. you cannot get that now. >> now it is less than one percent. yes you have to take risk to get a reward in retirement. and risk is the stock market. look at people in their 40's. middle america a peak pressure time maybe raising a family, car loan mortgage job opportunities, and middle class wages are declining.

in your 40's it is hard to scrape together extra cash to stick it away and you don't do it. >> 40-49 able to retire in comfort, yes or no? 10% say they will retire in comfort. >> that is a minuscule amount. >> those people are raising kids taking care of elderly parents, live busy lives and they wonder what they will have left. >> they are saying there is no way to get to 65 and quit working because we cannot afford it. we haven't got the money. the money will run out because we will live for maybe 15-20 years in so-called retirement. >> make one more point. outliving investments and savings was the top retirement concern for almost half. 44% of people who participated.

a third of workers believe the standard of living will decline once they stop working. >> that is middle america pressured and actually loosing ground financelyialfinancially. it is not a pretty picture and changed the picture of retirement. >> that it has. see you later. reports of al-qaeda branching out and gaining new power but the intel community never saw it developing. a former head of the cia said the u.s. badly misjudged the rebound. and a bus driver in hot water keeping the kid locked inside and why he refused to let the kid off the bus while the parents were outside waiting for them. >> your parents are going to be upset, but not with me with you because it is your fault for not getting off the bus.

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from a another white house bid expected. former governor mike huckabee is expected to announce his running within the hour. this is his second shot at the white house after running back in 2008. he is expected to do that about 11 o'clock in his home town of hope, arkansas and we will go live. in the mean time the cia is facing fire from a former head of the agency from failing to predict the rebound of al-qaeda. former acting director mike morell saying the agency did a blunder underestimating the impact. writing from a counter terrorism perspective the arab spring turned to winter.

retired general michael haden is here. good morning to you. how did we screw this up so badly? >> i think michael's description is perfectly spot-on. that is the way it turned out but the point i make is it didn't have to. it did disrupt the al-qaeda narrative. the governments were overthrown by democratic movement and they would succeed once the old government was ousted. this is a question of policy more than intelligence. we pulled back and overthrew the libyan government. what happened was beyond predictable it was inevitable and that is what turned the

spring into winter >> you are arguing it wasn't the relationship or lack of information we had on what was happening in the capital cities. that is what you said? >> that is exactly right. it did break the al-qaeda narrative. these governments were overthrown. and bill they were not arguing about the koran they were arguing about rule of law, parliament responsive governments. this was a great opportunity and we didn't take advantage of it. >> you go back to tanesia and it was not sure it would happen. they have had a vote or two but it is far from settled. it looked like the wall falling in eastern europe in 1989.

that is the still the case. most analyst believe you are ten years if not more from seeing a revolution here. >> i totally agree. that is why it demanded nurturing. it wouldn't respond well to abandonment. the test wasn't garnuaranteed here. anything could have turned south with us not getting involved. but us not getting involved made the resolution inevitable. >> we relackxed in creating windows and the leadership was isolated and unaware of the tidal wave about to hit. seems like we are splitting things here. it is the job of the intelligence community to know or predict what happened before it does.

rectif rectify that. >> i think michael is on to truth here. in 2008 i spent a morning with the leader of egypt and him complaining about the american policy toward him and us not knowing the local situation and our pressure for more democracy there was misguided. we knew what was going on in egypt more than the president. it is possible we pulled our punches in terms of collecting intelligence inside those societies for fear of alienating someone we relied on to go after al-qaeda. so michael is spot-on in that sense. >> it seems on the outside that the agency was a lot more optimistic for the change than what truly happened in reality.

would you agree with that? >> i would. i think that is fair. i think that is michael's point. but bill what we do matters. it is hard for me to imagine the agency being optimistic if they believed we were involved. it is an intelligence and policy issue. there is only so much good intelligence does if the policy isn't correct. >> thank you for your time. good to get your perspective on this. thank you and we will talk again. thanks come coming back. the testimony is resuming in the trial of james holmes the admitted colorado shooter who pled not guilty by reason of insanity. he is back in court after dramatic testimony and a first look at holmes first interview with the police.

there is a picture from some of that. we are live in denver. how long after the shooting did the police sit down and start questioning him? >> reporter: this was just a little over two hours after the massacre. the auroa police conducted this interview. the detective can be heard asking holmes who is dazed asking if he is okay physically or needs medical attention and holmes says he wants water. >> we have water coming. other than that you need anything? you want to bring fan here so there is air circulating on you? >> no. >> okay. are you good to talk with us? >> yeah. >> okay. >> reporter: testimony shows

when holmes was stayingtaken to the room he saw a sign saying crimes against children asking if any children were hurt. the defense tried and failed to convince the judge to limit how much details survivors could give the jury about their injuries. >> the jury got a close look at one of the survivors right? >> reporter: that is right chatty. one of the men said when he was shot he felt heat all over this body. the prosecutor asked if he said anything. >> no i were quite. if he were to go up the stairs i wanted to pretend like i was dead. >> what do you remember doing after that? >> once eugene said get up i

took a step and collapse. >> reporter: his lower leg was blown apart and had to be amputated several days later. he showed his prostetic leg to the jury and james holmes lean today the side so he could get a better look. court gets underway any minute now. the court room is in session at 40 after the hour. in minutes, mike huckabee will make it official. what do the polls say about his chances today? huckabee is optimistic and bret baier talked to him and we will talk to brett on deck next. >> and a boston marathon runner find the mystery man she kissed during the race and probably should have picked a little more wisely according to another special person. >> there is more to that story apparently.

so a boston marathon runner searching for a stranger she kissed during the race finally heard back; from the man's wife. barbara tacky said her daughter dared her to kiss a random down along the route. her daughter took to social media to track thim down and got this response: our friend have gotten a lot of talk and i enjoyed watching and gave my husband brief. that moment captured the fun, energy and spirit of the boston marathon. that is the spirit! >> that is. >> the man's wife said the attention was fun but the couple want to remain anonymous.

>> her daughter egged her on and good for her. well done. former arkansas governor mike huckabee is about to announce his running for president less than 20 minutes from now. there is a look at the setup and people waiting in hope arkansas the governor's home town. this is his second run for the white house. bret baier is here joining us now. >> i want to start saying i am not sure my wife would be that forgi forgiving. >> i don't think so either. we know your wife. she is lovely and probably wouldn't. let's look at how everything is stacking up. brand new polls of where we stand. we have a long way to go. but among gop primary voters bush is getting 23%, marco rubio at 18%, and scott walker rand

paul and ted cruz and page two now. ben carson chris christie and mike huckabee is at the bottom of the list tied with chris christie at 5%. what changes for him today? >> we have seen each candidate getting a bump with each announcement. it is important these are really early and we have a long way to go. but there is a little bit of tension focus and maybe a look by potential voters at the individual candidates as they launch which is why the launches have been important. we haven't been a fan of the pre-launch launch but that is what mike huckabee did coming on saying he would have this day. he is getting in the race. he has a loyal following especially in some place like iowa. that is problematic for someone like rick santorum who is going after the same voter.

rather huckabee can gain that and transition from iowa remains to be seen. >> it will be fascinating watching them try to win over iowa and new hampshire. and in most cases it looks like they will go against hilary clinton but we don't know that for sure. let's look how they stack up. bush against clinton. 49% for her and 43% for her. and same thing for mark rubio and hilary clinton. what is your read on that? is part of it because everyone knows hilary clinton? >> it is important to point out plus or minus three so the shift is very close between all of those candidates. i think when you go head-to-head there is of course a large percentage of the population

that already knows hilary clinton knows what they think about her, what they don't and do like about her they are starting to learn more about the republican candidates as they come out. jeb bush hasn't even done his official launch and it is perceived he is going to have problems of getting over the hurdles of the conservative voters in the early states but he is going to have a lot of money. >> the last couple months have been rough for hilary clinton going from 36% negative up to 42% in just the course of one month overall. bret honest and straight forward, only a quarter of voters think hillary is honest and straightforward. that is tough. >> one of the positive things is it is happening this early in

the campaign. if it last and the trust worthiness nothing is upside down that is a problem. but the fact the campaign came out with the spokesperson showing a video pushing back against "clinton cast" suggest they see the slipping and the impact of the become and the speeches of former president clinton have been sticking on her poll numbers more than maybe they thought. >> mark rubio went from 55% in terms of 72% in terms of people saying i could see myself voting for him. if you are a new candidate on the scene you want to be watching that; people saying i would like to know more. >> now you are in the tasting time. people say i will give him a look and see what he is about.

i like the polls showing who is your second choice because that is a window into what the early state voters and national voters are looking at. we have a long way to go but as we go there will be policy positions all of these candidates take and they will be positive or negative and leading up to the first debate on fox news channel. >> which we are so looking forward to. that is going to be good and crowded and interesting how they will come up with the set for all of these guys and ladies with carly fiorina in the mix. >> it is true. after you get the announcement you get the bump. >> if you don't get a bump from your announcement you might reconsider. "happening now" follows us in a few how are you doing? >> this is going to be happening during the 11 o'clock hour of mike huckabee announcing and karl rove is here for instant

analysis an out he has to say. and the final look at the installment against iran with one of the few western journalist to be working inside the country. and predicting cancer years in advance with a simple blood test. details ahead. >> that is important. see you then jenna at the top of the hour. brand new video of a shocking incident in the new york city subway system. watch here: >> we will tell you what happened there. don't worry the guy is doing just fine. that is the good news there. also a school bus driver accused of going too far and why he kept the kid inside the bus while the angry parents outside tried to force the door open. >> your kid will be off the bus when i am done with them. i am not letting anybody off until you listen to what i have to say.

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cheese a school bus driver in arizona is placed on leave after an investigation for refusing to allow kids to get off the bus because the beginning too loud. angry parents started calling 911 to pry open the door. what happened here? what did happen? >> at teaching moment that grew out of control. the driver tries to teach 40 elementary kids a lesson, refusing to open the door. the bus doors until they settle down. >> your parents are going to be getting upset. you are not getting off the bus.

you are going through that door. i am not getting anyone off until you listen to what i have to say. >> parents didn't understand what the driver was doing. a pound on the doors, a kids begin to screen which agitated the parents even more. one father tried to pry open the door. the bus driver speeds away. >> so the driver leaves parents are confused they call 911 and he heads back to school. >> he needs a vacation. i say it is the month of may. they had a long year. how is cool? how are parents responding to this? >> the driver is on leave parents are not so forgiving. feeling of that what parents were going to do it goes back to

the school with parents right behind. >> they are responsible for their lives. all those children on the bus get home safely and he did the exact opposite. >> even if you are acting that you can't keep kids locked up in a bus with no ac. you can't do that. >> as for air conditioning the district says he turned on the fan so kids could hear him. teaching moment gone are ride. >> summer's right around the corner. thank you. >> major announcement of the minutes away. arkansas governor mike huckabee is asked to announce his plans for 2016 and the big event is straight ahead. but i wasn't reaching my a1c goal anymore. man: my doctor says diabetes changes over time. it gets harder to control blood sugar spikes after i eat and get to goal. my doctor added novolog® at mealtime for additional control. now i know. novolog® is a fast-acting, injectable insulin

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