mebody you must insult them the proper way. do not be a ninnyhammer. thanks for watching tonight. please remember the spin stops here. we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, evidence that the case against the six baltimore police officers charged in freddie gray's death may be falling apart. less than a week after those charges were announced with such fanfare. good evening, welcome, i'm megyn kelly. now we are hearing reports that the police investigation into the incident does not support the charges. including the second-degree murder charge, but that's not all. also the d.a. charged several officers with false arrest arguing freddie gray did nothing wrong. that the knife he had on him was entirely legal.

but now lawyers and investigators on the case are saying the knife that gray was carrying was illegal under baltimore city code and the problems don't end there. listen to what a former state attorney for the city of baltimore had to say just last night. >> when i read the probable cause statement that was put out to justify her charges, i saw two immediate problems. one, they don't justify the charge of second-degree murder against the driver of the van. the second the charges against the arresting officers, i feel, are really very dangerous. she could not have thought that through in those two weeks in bringing those charges. >> trace gallagher is live with the story. >> back in the o.j. simpson case the montra was if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. now we're hearing if the knife is illegal, the arrest was legal. in other words, if this is a

spring-loaded knife, a switchblade, like the one on the left that automatically snaps open, it's illegal in the city of baltimore. if the knife has a spring mechanism that helps the user open the blade, then it's legal. many lawyers point out that even if the knife was legal and the afrss thought it was illegal and they acted in good faith, the arrest is likely justified. state prosecutor conducted her own investigation because she wanted to distance herself from the police. but the police investigation could hurt her case. for example, officer goodson was charged with murder but police investigators found the most serious charge would be manslaughter because murder requires intent. and police investigators say their sources will indicate that the medical examiner did not plan to rule this a homicide and yet the state prosecutor says it was ruled homicide. there are also reports that police can prove contrary to what the prosecutor says that the officers who took freddie

gray to the police station did try to get him medical help along the way, but there was confusion with emergency responders. the state prosecutor's independent investigation was headed up by former police officer avon macl who was stripped of his command post after a mishandled investigation and reportedly he was drunk tased at his home for erratic behavior. now defense attorneys for the officers involved in the case are alleging that he had an ax to grind and while the defense tries to poke holes in the prosecution's allegations against these six police officers prosecutors are responding by accusing the defense of leaking information and attempting to try this case in the media. >> hold on for a second. you're telling me that the d.a.'s lead investigator is some dude who had been kicked out of the police force and tased by the cops?

>> the d.a. the independent -- the man who led the independent investigation is a former baltimore police officer who was demoted and had an incident at his house who was, says the defense, had an ax to grind, or that's their allegation. >> that would be a relevant fact. thank you. is this case falling apart four days after it was filed? joining me is a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. that guy has no ax to grind with the cops? >> no. completely free from any bias including the prosecutor herself with all the connections. i'm outraged. let's start with the false imprisonment. cops need to be perfect or they lose their livelihood and potentially their liberty? let's understand something. it either is a legal knife or it's not. that's not what the case should hinge upon.

if they reasonably believed it had some spring action and violated baltimore law, that's enough. cops make mistakes every day. they are not arrested for it. >> and the irony is she's charging them with false imprisonment for making an arrest that had no basis in her view. isn't there a good argument she just did the same thing to them? shouldn't she be charged with false imprisonment if that's the standard standard? >> one could make that argument. let me explain something. every day in every courtroom cops are making mistakes because they are human. i have seen in my career over two decades in the criminal justice arena about a dozen cases specifically believe nooifs are unlawful and later it's researched and it turns out they were wrong. they are not arrested. why are these cops stripped of their liberty? >> and we're understand inging that -- this isn't like the cops

themselves said the knife was illegal and, therefore she dismissed it. they are saying a separate group of cops investigating these cops looked at the knife and said that knife is illegal. maybe not under the state of maryland law, but illegal under baltimore law, which legitimizes this arrest. and on top of that they concluded there's no basis for a murder charge. at most the cops were negligent. there was no intent. that was the initial conclusion of the medical examiner and then suddenly after possibly some discussion with her, his report was changed to conclude homicide. >> yeah no that was my immediate conclusion. second-degree murder they must have evidence beyond an exclusion of every reasonable doubt that this driver said i'm going to give this guy a real job here. i'm going to take turns at a fast rate of speed, slam on my brakes and give him a rough ride. that's not the theory. her theory is they didn't give

him proper medical care and buckle him in. for that they may be negligent, maybe even criminally negligent. but to get it to a willful disregard of human life recklessness is not there. >> that's right. on the question of the knife, the attorneys representing these cops charged with false imprisonment for which they could spend years in prison for arresting him wrongly for thinking it was a switchblade when allegedly it wasn't now they say just produce the knife. let's see the knife so we can figure it out. she says i'm not going to try this case in the media, which she's already out there last week saying i will find justice for freddie gray. now she doesn't want to try the case in the media. >> let's defend her to keep this fair and balanced. let's say she has a bus load of nuns who overheard the two cops saying let's frame freddie gray like the mona lisa.

we know this knife right here, we know it is lawful but let's just say we say this is illegal. that's different. you charge him. you go ahead. that's not what happened here. >> mark, thank you for being here. >> thank you. we have breaking news coming on right now. minutes ago the department of justice announcing what a shock, it will investigate the baltimore police department after a request, which i'm sure the doj had nothing to do with from the baltimore mayor to do that. that report moving on the wires as i was speaking with mark. it was a week ago that reverend al sharpton said the federal government needs to take over policing across this country, which is not really constitutional and some legal experts suggest we're already well on our way down that road. shannon coughman was in the doj civil rights division.

good to see you again. i'm shocked that the department of justice is going to step into this case. are you? >> you have taken all the guesswork out of what i had to say. the mayor of baltimore is being hailed for her courage by "the washington post" in asking doj. i would suggest it's actually a sign of remarkable political weakness to ask the department of justice, the federal government to come in and take over your police department. >> i would say having covered a number of these cases in the past couple years the request probably came the other way and she came out and said publically yes, i'd love for them to get involved would you please? >> this wouldn't be the first police department that the department of justice under the pretext of federal law sought to take over. they are running the police department in new orleans, seattle, newark. they are looking at cleveland

and in missouri, we know very well that they are conducting an investigation. >> did they open an investigation and turn around and say, no problem, everything is looking good here? everything we have seen has been this is the most racist disgusting police department ever and unless they answer to the doj, was there a call for loretta lynch, we're going to shut them down. >> under this it department of justice, i'm not aware of any investigations that haven't led o to basically a consent decree where the department forces the local law enforcement to comply with what are effectively federal standards. >> andy mcar thi has been saying this for months. they say we're going to conduct an investigation, the police department cannot afford to fight the doj so they wind up cowering in submission. but barack obama has been very

clear about he has a task force that basically wants to control local law enforcement. the problem is that's not really how the country was set up. >> the ominously named task force on 21st century policing has said we want to use federal funds in order to basically impose our will on what good law enforcement conduct is on local law enforcement. and we'll dole out those funds according to which departments are basically following our lead. and that take was all of the innovation and all of the local control that our founders anticipated and wanted at the state and local levels. >> you had the mayor going out there and saying i want the doj to investigate whether we have a racist police department. she's an african-american her police commissioner is an african-american her police force is majority minority 3 of the 6 cops arrest eded in the case

were african-american and even in these circumstances we need a federal investigation into whether this is a racist police department. if it can happen in baltimore, it can happen anywhere. >> that's right, and they don't stop at just the question of racism. they ask about excessive force, searches and seizures they comb entirely over all of the practices of the law enforcement and they are going to find something. it's happening in ferguson. >> thanks for being here. >> thank you. as we get breaking news we're hearing this may be the start of a long summer of trouble in american cities as polls suggest race relations are getting worse. wasn't president obama supposed to signal a change? that debate is next. plus a female recruit at the fire academy fails her fitness test but gets to graduate any way. that's when we come back in just a bit.

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dwoop developing tonight, new worries that the violence in baltimore may just be the start of a long summer. we saw solidarity marches in chicago, new york and philadelphia. while marchers complained about racism and police brutality a number of writers have suggested

there is a deeper frustration here. a sense that folks in these communities feel trapped and ignored at a time when e we thought the election of president obama signalled a new era. in fact a "new york times" poll out this week says race relations are at their lowest point in more than 20 years with 61% of americans calling them generally bad. join joining me to discuss is is robert zimmerman, committee member of the dnc. so a lot of people are going to say i thought it was going to change. we had our first black presidential and americans believed it was going to change. it seems to have changed for the worse. >> this issue is so much bigger than political scapegoating. especially when our police are on the front lines in terms of building community relations. the issues we're facing are so much bigger. we're dealing with cities and communities where wages are low, unemployment is high and people feel despair and frustration.

>> we were before too. we were four years ago. >> there's a difference though. the training, technical schools, infrastructure a record low, lowest percent of gdp. >> baltimore has gotten a ton of dough. one came out from kareem abdul-jabbar. . if you're born poor, your chance of getting out of poverty are slim to none. that's been the case. what is changing that is causeing the race relations to be so poor? >> we're seeing an economic divide that's growing by every measure. i think we can't under estimate that. the president laid out his agenda for job training and the congress has cut funds for that for job training for employment programs even for cameras for

police officers. >> let me play devil's advocate. could it be that we have seen the vid eos of the generally white police officers in the black victims depending on the case and the conflicts they have had. so that causes upset in the african-american community. but then the response from people like president obama or this mayor in baltimore spends more time talking about how bad the cops are before the judgments are in causes anger and angst in the law enforcement community and among some whites. >> it's an interesting point because what we're also seeing in baltimore, police officers were african-american, in the eric garner case, a sergeant was on the scene. many cases it's a mistake just to define this simply as a racial matter. there are other issues at stake. the more important point here the larger point is that as opposed to scapegoating police officers we have to look at the much larger picture here about the despair that people feel.

at the end of the day, they are nothing more than crooks profiting off these tragedies, but you understand what the protests are for. >> they want to see hope and change. >> by the way, nothing wrong with that. >> great to see you. the so-called clinton machine kicked into high gear. going after the writer who touched off all the questions about the multimillion dollar clinton foundation. that writer is here next. plus the terror attack in texas started a first amendment fight whether other offensive speech is protected by the constitution and should be encouraged. rich lowrie is here to weigh in and i'll have a few things to say as well. >> if if they never had the event, the jihadis never would have shown up. it's that simple. >> richard i'm concerned about the america you would have us live in. the volkswagen golf was just named motor trend's 2015 car of the year. so was the 100% electric e-golf. and the 45 highway mpg tdi clean diesel.

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breaking tonight, new reports that conservatives have won big in the leks in the united kingdom. it was one of the closest contests in history, and prime minister david cameron is on track to govern britain for another five years. final results will be announced tomorrow. back on this side of the popped, hillary clinton's presidential campaign ramping up efforts to tear down a book filled with allegations that are threatening her white house hopes. the book is called "clinton cash." it details a pattern of behavior where hillary clinton and president clinton have profited off of relationships with individuals and entities who had business before her state department. over the past week and the last few days the campaign and hillary clinton have gone all out to discredit this book and its author. >> even the guy that wrote the book apparently had had had to admit under questioning he

didn't have a shred of evidence. he thought he would throw it out there. >> it's full of sloppy research and attacks pulled out of thin air. >> it's a book that's written by a former bush operative. he's cherry picked information that's been disclosed and woven a bunch of conspiracy theories about it. >> there's everything here but that she did anything -- this is spaghetti journalism. there's throw spaghetti at the wall and hope something sticks. >> joining us is the spaghetti maker, peter, good to see you. obviously, what those clips show is they are a little worried about you. that's obvious. their main line of attack is there's no smoking gun. something you admitted yourself. >> well what i argue is the smoking gun, i don't have an e-mail that says do this and

we'll give you money. what i do have is a pattern of behavior that's very troubling. the pattern is revealed in dozens of examples where there's an influx of money to the clintons. hillary clinton shortly thereafter takes favorable actions for the individuals who are giving them the money. look at one of two of these and say it's a coincidence. when you see it replicated dozens of times, it warrants serious investigation by people who have subpoena power that can look at e-mails and correspondents. >> they don't seem to think it counts unless there's direct proof. they don't seem to believe in circumstantial evidence when it comes to their behavior. >> yeah that's exactly right. here's what i like to say. imagine three years from now we have a secretary of defense not named clinton and she has a private foundation with her husband and a small company has business before the pentagon and needs approval for something and the shareholders send $145 million to that family

foundation. are people going to just ask them did anything happen here and we're going to take their word? of course, not, we would investigate it except when it involves the clintons they seem to operate on a level that's very different than anybody else in american politics. >> what should happen? she is going to testify before the benghazi committee, at least. she'll get asked and she will have to answer correct? >> yes, i don't know in terms of the committee what the scope of the questioning is going to be but we need to have somebody that has subpoena power look into some of these deals. e we need to look at some of the inflated speaking fees that bill clinton got as she was considering everything from the keystone pipeline. >> who would look into it? who specifically? >> i think the fbi is an excellent suggestion. you could have congressional committees do it. i'd like to see somebody with subpoena power that is a

prosecutor possibly even convene a grand jury. you look at the menendez case the case in virginia in oregon the pattern of behavior here is somewhat similar. and it is crying out for further investigation. >> peter, thank you for being here. >> thanks. up next free speech and the first amendment have come under fire after an attempted terror attack in texas. after the break, rich lowrie and i will have some thoughts on that. plus brian is here to weigh in on the case of the college student facing jail time for what she was doing in the fridge. if you share an office kitchen, you better see this. and with a custody battle waging over the embryos of a hollywood bomb shell, someone in our fox family joins us with her own news.

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last night on this program we had a discussion about free speech and american values and why our commitment requires everyone to stand up for the rights of those speaking even the most offensive of words. it's not about aligning yourself with the message. it's about defending a core american principle. eugene explained how the folks had the legal right to do it in texas, which some had questioned, but how what they did was important and of real value because it was an act of defiance. defiance toward those radical muslim factions who mean to impose their moral code on us. that certain figures may not be drawn. what happened in texas is a group said no, you don't control speech in this country. even if a religion may find that speech offensive. the jihadys showed up and tried

to murder everyone there. now some suggest the risk with such an event is that our muslim nation allies might be less inclined to fight the jihad if they see some group in america hold a private listen like had this one. so prooiftd citizens shouldn't do offensive ztszs even behind closed doors now. because our friends in egypt might get ticked off. but the fact is we don't come pro promiez america's bedrock principles to make other nations like us more. as we do not require them to change their values before we fight a common enemy. otherwise egypt's whole, we will kill you for leaving islam commitment might be a deal breaker. the bottom line is some in this country have been so busy how to figure out how to avoid any religion they have forgotten what is offensive to americans, namely those who would trample on our core ideals. in america we stand for liberty and freedom to offend to

provoke, to persuade and to defy. alan is author of "taking the stand." and rich lowrie is the editor of national review and a fox news contributor. alan -- >> let me start with you and applaud your statement. it was fantastic. it's the paradigm of the way americans have to look at our freedoms. jefferson would have been proud of you. >> thank you so much. that's high praise. i think on this show last night we went through it. there's not a more respected scholar who made very clear this is free speech what happened down in texas, even if you don't like the speech. he took it a step further and said the speech is valuable and should have been done. those who say you shouldn't, he took that on. >> the speech is tasteless, provocative, but it has a value because it's making the statement that violent extremists aren't going to set

the boundaries of free speech in this country. this is a country where nothing is sacred. if we're going to accept an assassin assassin's veto the only exception is the image of muhammad. that's just proverse and not what this country is about. >> it's like some people want to look at what's offensive and don't like you to draw the prophet and say that will be our value too. that's not the value of most americans. if they want to draw move homd they can. >> everything that the critics of what gellar has said could be said about martin luther king. i don't want to make any comparisons morally or legally, but from a constitutional law point of view there's no difference. martin luther king picked some of the cities precisely in order to bring out the racists and show what kind of violent people they are so the world could see. it's part of the american tradition to provoke so that the world can see.

>> right. >> and there is some value, but i think one has to remember the most important part of this is there's only one group in the world today that threatens to kill people who offend them and that is radical muslims. . they don't need gellar to do it. and murdered thooe row van gogh. jews and christians don't go after and threaten to kill when antichristian statements are made. they don't do it to other groups. and we just cannot accept the veto by threatened extreme violence. >> so why have we seen so many in the media rush to condemn gellar and say almost nothing about the two jihadys two tried to murder her and everyone there there. >> they will say there's hate in texas and they are talking about her and not isis. and they will directly compare her to isis.

they don't like her or the idea of offending muslims. the left in this country has taught us you should push the envelope in your art and commentary and literally trample on every single piety except for this one. i want to step up and underline something alan was saying and defend the muslim community. the average muslim in america is not sitting plotting revenge because someone is drawing mohammed in texas. >> and the notion that egypt or jordan is going to abandon nus our fight against isis because pam gellar had -- >> the sensibilities are those of isis and the extremists. those are whose sensibilities you should be willing to trample on. >> even some on the christian right saying they don't like to have their religion insulted. we saw the jesus christ immersed in urine. we are going down a dangerous road if we start offensing other

religions. while they may be offended does that get to the issue here? >> look they can try to persuade us not to do that. they can use the marketplace of ideas. the difference is that radical muslims, only talking about radical muslims, they are the group that says if you offend us we will kill you. we will murder you. >> this is why the point was making last night on the air was maybe there's room for a debate in this country about whether that kind of provocative speech is appropriate. but can e we wait until the crime scene is cleared first? this group came under attack. but for the quick thinking of a police officer who single handedly took them out, we could have had dozens dead. shouldn't they be the focus right now? >> you'd think there would be universal sentiment behind that idea. there just hasn't been. we have seen it in the attack on france where you have some famous writers saying you know

what, "charlie hebdo," they were in the wrong they were out of bounds there should be an assassin assassin's veto. if you're going to write something that makes people want to kill you, shut up. >> we have to start looking at what they are preaching in mosques. i haven't heard much from the radical muslims who complain that they were offended. what about what's going on in mosques today? the difference is we don't kill them when they do that. we condemn them we argue with them and there's a big difference between having a marketplace of ideas and a marketplace that dominated by rifles and guns and attempts to kill. >> thank you both for being here. taking your thoughts now. at facebook.com and on twitter. tom brady is one of the most successful quarterbacks in the history of the nfl.

up next we will show you what he did tonight when confronted about allegations he was a cheater and a liar. don't miss that.

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you can call me shallow... but, i have a wandering eye. i mean, come on. national gives me the control to choose any car in the aisle i want. i could choose you... or i could choose her if i like her more. and i do. oh, the silent treatment. real mature. so you wanna get out of here? go national. go like a pro. what's your reaction tom, to the ted wells report? >> i don't have any reaction. our owner commented on it yesterday. it's only been 30 hours, so i haven't had had had much time to digest it fully. when i do i'll be sure to let you know how i feel about it.

and everybody else. >> that was new england patriots quarterback tom brady reacting to a new nfl commission report just out that falls just short of call inging the star quarterback a cheater. the report finds that it was quote, more probable than not that brady was at least aware that the footballs he was using in the super bowl lead up were below the legal pressure. the co-host of fox and friends is joining us. . you have written a book called "the games do count." so even though i don't follow sport, i care. if he's a cheater and cheated his way into the super bowl, it counts. >> the debate is no longer, well i'm a quarterback, and it doesn't help me. it doesn't matter anymore. the l bottom line is there are rules. how much you like football or don't like football he went out of his way to skirt those rules.

>> some say the rules are stupid. >> he wanted to fight me in the green room about this. thankfully, this is my five minutes. but here's what i'm saying about this. you go through this 230 pages. it could have been done in 20 pages. two assistants went out of their way for over a year to take air pressure out of a ball and if you look at the style, they feel pressure to do this because there's only a slight window for them to do this and they don't like tom brady. >> there's no question they did it. the texts show he knew it and was showing it. >> mcnally is the guy that took the air out of the ball. the other is the assistant trainer. >> would you do a dramatic reenactment? >> tom sucks. if i like through the text messages they wouldn't be saying megyn kelly sucks. they love you. i'm going to make that next ball a balloon. talked to him last night. he actually brought you up and

said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done. i told him it was. he was right though. a few of them were at 16, meaning too hard. they didn't recheck after they put air in them. 16 is nothing. wait until next sunday. he wants it below the 16 pressure. >> which is illegal. >> this is what i want you to take away. they have him on video taking the balls from the referees, going into the bathroom for a minute and 50 seconds and. assume taking air out of the balls and bringing them out to the game. they assume to be for the championship game the investigation revealed they have done this for over a year. tom brady refused to turn over text messages or e-mails. he refused to turn over his phone. therefore, that's obstruction. >> i didn't know that. i knew he did it when they asked him are you a cheater and he said i don't believe so. >> right, that was at the end. >> you imagine having that exchange with your spouse? i don't believe so. >> this who should be the most

important important. the most upset should be the patriot fans and bob kraft, the best owner in sports. >> i don't know whether he did it, but i feel happy because he has too much and i feel jealous of him. >> you resent happy people. >> super model, hundreds of millions millions millions, that gorgeous. >> i can make a prediction? she's retired now. that's not a prediction. that's just a fact. four to six games, i believe he's going to be suspended for. i think the team will be sanctioned to pick because they did not let mcnally go back. >> syracuse university just got killed for doing something that was probably less egregious than this. do you agree? >> that's the ncaa and this is the nfl. they took eight years to investigate. >> way too much time on sports. this is boring to me. >> you bait me and you move on.

>> let's talk about the e female recruit after she failed the physical fitness test and going to be a firefighter. what's up with that? >> here it is. i did some work. a good friend of mine is a lieutenant. i said the stuff you ask these men and women to do during training s it too hard? he said absolutely not. guess what happens you have to take down walls and knock down ceilings you have to get their course done in 17 minutes. she takes 22 and only finished it one time. they are going to pass her any way because this administration in new york city wants more females on the fire department. but if you're a weak link -- >> women don't have the upper body strength. >> which is why they are not in the nfl and have their own wnba. there's nothing wrong with that. there's only 44 females in the fdny. that's not acceptable. >> it's controversial when you're talking about a life-saving profession. women are taking a beating here. now we have this south carolina college student who has been

charged one lawful malicious tampering with human drug product or food. she could face 20 years in prison. >> she's been set up here. after they accused her of spitting in the food and windex you have that law degree. if this will hold up in court. they caught her in the act spraying windex and spitting in the food of her roommates. so they brought her down and showed this video. they arrested her and got her out for $5,000 on bail and she will not leave the apartment. they are in a three-person apartment. she won't leave. they actually ate some of the food that tastes like windex. i could see one bite but finishing a sandwich of windex what else do you have? this is unbelievable. if this woman is doing this had to you, move out. >> i thought it was bad when i made doug a tuna casserole and forgot to put the tuna in. something tastes funny.

>> did he tell you? >> we were like it tastes funny. there were the cans of tuna sitting on the counter. i don't even eat seafood. maybe i did it subconsciously. i make a mean peanut butter and jelly sandwich. one other thing, happy birthday brian. >> thank you very much. by the way, tomorrow we talk about what's going on with the nsa on kill me to friends on radio. >> way to work in a tease. on your birthday i'll allow it. up next a custody battle over the embryos of a hollywood bomb shell, someone in our own fox family has news of her own to share here, next.

sofia vergara is in a nasty legal battle over frozen embryos. he wants to use them with someone else. melissa francis has some thoughts on this and some news to share. she's an anchor with fox business network. great to see you. >> i'm so nervous. >> we are friends and you shared something with me and now want to share with the viewers. >> my husband and i are blessed and lucky enough to be welcoming a baby daughter of our own with the help of a surrogate. i have a genetic blood defect that was only figured out during the process of the two boys. we were told we couldn't have anymore kids. on this day when people are looking at this process and seeing how dicey it is i want to show the other side that it can complete a beautiful family. >> yay, you're having a baby.

and the baby is coming soon. >> really soon. like i got to go. >> it's amazing. she's eight months pregnant now. you look fantastic. but it is not without controversy because things like this can happen. they weren't married and entered into this process. now they have two embryos that she would like to discard and he doesn't want to. >> you shouldn't. it's like getting pregnant any other way. you have to go into it with a partner you're on the same page with. >> do you feel you're going to withstand the test of time? >> we have been married 15 years and sw v two loud children. >> not only have they beautiful, but they are super smart. they both got into harvard early admission. can you believe that? how smart can you be? so you do have two beautiful boys already. and melissa shared this with me.

here she is she and ray, telling them the news. >> you're saying we're having a real live baby sister? somebody else is having it for us? >> yes. >> are they going to name it. >> no, we get to pick her up. what's your idea? >> my idea for a name is why can't we name her a banana? >> beautiful banana. that's going to be her name. when princess kate had had her baby they said is that ours? >> your life is about to change. what's it been like for you this process going through it with somebody else? >> it's very disconnected. i feel very insecure. there's this baby developing out of reach. it's a lovely woman who has been so generous and so caring and

wanted to do this amazing thing for us. there's a lot of people out there doing that. and i know it's not without controversy and there are a lot of people who don't agree with the choices and i respect their opinion, but i go to church and this is a beautiful baby that wanted a life and it's going to come to a loving family. >> i can vouch for that. congratulations. lots of love. can't wait to meet her. we'll be right back

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