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feedback has been interesting. so let us know what you think. thank you for watching everybody. have a great weechblgd i'm megyn kelly. this is the kelly files. welcome to the special edition of "hannity" race relations in the obama era. in 2008 america took part in an historic election, pro-0 pelling barack obama, the first black president in to office with a sizable majority. many hoped the president would be the uniting force that we desperately needed. seven years later, the country is anything but united. tonight with the help of a studio audience we will analyze racial tensions and look for solutions. as a reminder this is what we saw and heard during the baltimore riots. [ sirens ] breaking news now continuing
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coverage out of baltimore where the situation appears to be well deteriorating. >> this is a joke? they think this is funny. >> the governor declaring a state of emergency in the city. 15 police officers have been injured after clashing with very violent protesters. now the riotic continuing at this hour with protesters looting stores, attacking police. >> move, move back. >> reporter: we have looting, the burning of building. >> bricks at police officers here. >> reporter: rocks and woulders thrown at police officers. >> black lives matter! black lives matter! >> do not condemn people for their anger. do not condemn people for their frustration because you failed to do what is right.
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>> so have we seen the last of the tragic riots? most americans do not think. so a "wall street journal" poll shows 96% of americans think that more racial disturbances are likely this summer. for reaction we bring in our studio audience. show of hands, barack obama has been president. he is in his seventh year. how many think race relations have gotten better? hands up? worse? no hands at all for you. what's up with that? >> i think things are pretty neutral over the last eight years. there are some things that have happened such as police shootings have have ignited issues but i don't think it has gotten worse. >> i say obama is a four-time loser on high-profile race cases. said the cambridge police acted stupidly had to have a beer summit. rushed to judgment in the trayvon martin case. he was wrong there. we know in ferguson, he mentioned that michelle obama
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mentioned it this week he was wrong on ferguson and i think he was wrong as a constitutional attorney on freddie gray. >> we are breeding this type of an mouse in the country. a teacher came out and said that white men are the scourge of the earth on something along that line. having been on the ground in ferguson and i talked though young black kid that you talked to about it. his comment was, kevin, why aren't people telling us the truth? he wanted to know the truth. we are not tell ing them. they want the strife. that's why the 96% number is an overwhelming indictment of what is happening. >> you are on the pulpit. i think if we are going to help kids in america, putting aside racial issues it will come from guys like you. >> i think so. the early american flag before we got the one that we have now, said appeal to heaven with
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evergreen tree representing covenant. these problems are not solved by themselves. we have to take some proactive stance. think of it this way, race generational poverty and i'm going to call it class are all intertwined. so we don't just have a race problem, it's not just black or white. we have some people who feel angry and hopeless. i hope tonight we will deal with that. started an initiative called the reconcile church. it is bringing together high-profile leaders, t.j. jakes, james robinson and others. >> all good people. >> saying the church has to lead the way, first to calm things down and then begin to deal with longer term solutions to hopelessness. >> here's the next question. i want a show of hands again. has barack obama with his comments on the four instances i mentioned, is he stoking the fires of racial tension? how many say yes?
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how many say no? why? >> that these things exist is not obama's fault. i don't think that it is obama's job -- there's nothing that obama can do to put out the fires. i think what he is trying to do is observe them and speak to what a lot of people do feel. >> can i just say one thing and i will go -- >> wait a minute. he's a constitutional lawyer. he said the cambridge police acted stupidly. he had no facts. he rushed to judgment with trayvon martin. he had no fact a's. it turn out that michael brown robbed a store, intimidated a clerk, fought a cop for his gun, probably to kill the cop and charged the police officer. it never happened hands up don't shoot. it never happened. >> what to you mean. >> he charged the police officer, the eyewitnesses when you read the reports. >> i thought obama. >> no michael brown. >> i understand what you are saying. >> the president invoked michael
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brown. >> tell the country, be quiet, relax, follow the process and let the process work. he and eric holder the former attorney general immediately jumped in, it is racial case black versus white -- >> if you asked people in ferguson tonight, whether they think it was racial what happened to michael brown, what percentage of people would say yes? he had his hands up don't shoot. >> despite the attorney general and saying it was not a racial case a lot of people will say it was. >> bo dietl? >> the environment that was set. here in new york city we have big mayor de blasio that set the environment. when you have people shutting down the streets? what do you want, dead cops when do you want it now. if we want two dead cops we have two dead cops. >> speaking of cops -- >> let me finish this thought because it is important. i talk to cops every day out there. they have taken gut and soul. you have an officer hit with a
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hammer yesterday. she could have been killed. thank god the reaction of the other cop was not to hesitate because we would have had another dead cop. my whole thing is look when i grew up as a cop, i was a servant to the black community. i didn't see black white. i saw good bad. you have good kids. these kids have to get the environment changed. they have to have trades they can learn to show there's a way in this country. i love this country. >> let me bring up a point. this monday in louisville kentucky nelson county sheriff, a guy by the name of ed maddingly told reporters there was a shooting incident that happened there and he said quote, we are glad the person who got shot is white. he said we shouldn't have to be worried about that. let's go to barack obama on the issue of police incidents and what he has said about it. >> the cambridge police acted stupidly. there's a long history in this
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country of african-americans and latinos being stopped by law enforcement, disproportionately. that's a fact. the african-american community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away. the african-american community issal is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application criminal laws. in too many communities around the country, a front exists between communities and law enforcement. in too many communities too many young men of color are left behind and seen as objects of fear. there's some bad politicians. who are corrupt and there are folks this the business community or wall street who
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don't do the right thing. well, there are police that are not doing the right thing. there are some police departments that need to do soul searching. >> with the bully pulpit of the presidency rushing to judgment on four high-profile racial incidents in this country, he turns out to be wrong. wrong. does he hurt race relations by doing that? >> president talks about history. let's talk about history. 100 years ago there was another progressive democrat president named woodrow wilson. he saw, he aired one of the most racist disgusting films of our nation "birth of a nation." he said it was history written with lightning. barack obama is the rekar nation of woodrow wilson. >> that pushed the klan. you are making a tough charge here against the president. you are comparing that to woodrow wilson? >> absolutely. it's the same phenomenon. you have a certain degree of
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racial tension. the racial tension existed and was palpable back then. instead of being this calming voice that brings people together you divide people. and you stoke the fire and you stoke the racism. the only difference is -- the same progressivism, the same democratic progress i havism and divide and conquer the people. the victimizer and victim have traded sides. >> stacey you tweeted out in 2012 your support for mitt romney. sadly, i real some of the ugliest comments i have ever read in my life. deneen writes about it in her book. you were a victim of kind of racism for being black and conservative? >> yes. >> explain. >> i think it is good i started a dialogue. but this is just an example of this white house plantation
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mentally. this narrative they are trying to push upon the, you know, disenfranchised, the uneducated. they want to keep them there. throw money at the problem and think it will solve it. that's not. >> like the $1.8 billion in stimulus money they got. >> my question is, in listening to the comments the president made he -- i believe his intention is not to stoke more racial tension but to help people to understand the other side. i think that's what he was doing in trying to explain the world view that people of color might have that might be dprimpb the white minority. he is trying to bring people together but not working. how can we as people community organizations and faith-based community have a conversation that is productive rather than dividing? >> if we all believe we are all god's children and all born with talent and ability -- we will
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get to michelle bhoemobama's speech in the next segment. she goes on a rant in a commencement address. and i felt like you needed to get to the party where you are the first lady. where white america had no problem voting for a black american president, at all. much to my chagrin, i thought for liberal reasons he shouldn't be elected, but it showed progress and she sounded angry. you heard the speech this week. >> she is angry. >> i think it's a matter of always wanted -- as a public figure you want to match the emotional tambor of what is going on in the country. some of the speeches are trying to do that empathize. >> it's not necessarily helping but the more you start a dialogue around these issues and have panels like this and other media how can we convene and turn a negative to a positive. >> we will get back to all of
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your comments, everybody will get in and michelle obama's comments from her speech this week coming up on this special edition of "hannity." >> folks that cross the street in fear of their safety. the clerks that kept a close eye on us at the department stores. people who assumed we were the help. >> when we return our studio aud audience responds to the first lady ease address. and david clarke will weigh in on the racial divide created here in america and much more on the special edition of "hannity." glad you are with us.
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discrimination in america. let's listen to this. >> we both felt the sting of those daily slights throughout our entire lives the folks who crossed the street in fear of their safety. the clerks who kept a close eye on us in all of those department stores the people at formal events who assumed we were the help. and those who have questioned our intelligence honesty and even our love of this country. i know that these little indignities are obviously nothing compared to what folks across the country are dealing with every day. those nagging worries that you are going to get stopped or pulled over for absolutely no reason. the road ahead is not going to be easy. it never is. especially for folks like you and me. because while we have come so far, the truth is those age-old problems are stubborn. they havent fully gone away. and all of that is gonna be a
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heavy burden to carry. it can feel isolating. it can make you feel like your life somehow doesn't matter. that your like the invisible man that tuskegee man wrote about all of those years ago. as we have seen the past few years, those feelings are real. they are rooted in decades of structural challenges that have made too many folks feel frustrated and invisible and those feelings are playing out in communities like baltimore and ferguson and so many others across this country. >> all right. we bring back our studio audience. how many think she hit the right message there? show of hands one, two, three, four. how many think she gave the wrong message? okay. let's go to rod. we have been friends a long time it sounded to me angry. it sounded to me -- everyone is going to have struggles an there
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is residual racism but i argue 95% of americans the worst thing you could call them is a racist. i don't think she was recognizing that nor telling them i'm the first lady in in spite of problems i may have had. my husband is president of the united states in spite of sean hannity not wanting a liberal in the white house. >> she was more passionate an anything in her speech and trying to relate to the audience. i listened to her speech and everything she said sean. i could feel the tenor in her voice. i could feel what she was saying. >> you felt anger? >> i didn't feel anger but passion and experience. >> i have to say honestly she's the first lady of the country. he's the president of the united states. who -- i was born in 1970. who could have told me 45 years ago that i would be looking at a two-term black president -- i don't agree with a lot of his
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policies but she a two-term elected president that's the message right there. >> who. >> i think both obamas have missed an opportunity to promote how exceptional our country is. michelle obama played identity politics and president obama, eric holder jesse jackson across the board. identity politics. they want to divide our country. instead of uniting americans, we hear this rhetoric on heg regular basis. to talk like that at a graduation ceremony i found it very discouraging. i found that because of her position she could have done much better job than talk about how she got from chicago to ivy league schools to the white house. if i can do it you can do it too. >> that's what she was saying. it bothers me when an african-american woman speaks clearly and forcefully about something. all of a sudden she is angry. she was talking about the true
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issues because regardless of your income level, regardless of how much education you have. >> stacey is responding to you. >> she sounded -- she sounded ungrateful. >> no. ir wrong. >> ungrateful. she is the first black woman to be the first lady of the united states of america. she should be proud. she should be -- >> gracious. >> hold on a second. what she did -- >> stacey go ahead. >> even if she has that opinion, there's a way to express it without causing division. she should be trying to unite. that's the only -- like they say, united we stand, divided we fall. >> you all are playing one clip of a long commencement speech that was very powerful inspirational. when you have someone who's in this position and she was doing
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the right thing. she was speaking at tuskegee university and telling students you have the right to -- just because you have negative issues going against you, you will be great. that's what she was saying. >> we have come a long way. to see a black woman up there as the first lady. she should have been saying this is where i am right now. this is why i am here and you should aspire to this. >> go ahead. >> we have a long way to go. you are missing the message. >> hang on. >> too many negatives in there for me. did you hear his entire speech? >> exactly. you are playing a clip. that's part -- there are many clips. if i was in there i would have walked out thinking that you
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know what this is bad. this is bad. >> if i went in there -- >> every time the democrats do this and people in power that are blk and there's a lot of powerful black people in this country. baltimore is a good example. every time they do this they hark harken black to the 1970s and slavery. instead of a powerful message -- >> can i make an observation. i'm looking at an audience of predominantly black americans, all of you successful in huge ways. my only disagreement with you is i listened to the tone and i'm like she made it -- this country has righted wrongs thankfully corrected injustices thankfully. made progress thankfully and most people are not who she was describing. i thought that was unfair. >> a lot of people are, sean.
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i'm a criminal defense lawyer. i know about profiling. i know how situation such as ferguson how a large percentage of people of color. >> i have a question. when the president -- as a criminal defense attorney when obama mentions the cambridge police trayvon martin ferguson missouri freddie gray in his city of chicago, how many blacks have been killed that you don't know their names? why doesn't he talk about that? never heard him talk about it. his own home city. >> wait a second. >> trayvon martin case where george zimmerman was found not guilty. he was wrong for approaching trayvon. we know that. >> trayvon martin grounded and pounded according to the one eyewitness in that case sir. >> there was an eyewitness that said he saw trayvon ground and ground gun and self defense as
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well. >> he shouldn't be involved in this. >> where was he when police officer got killed in new york where was he when two of my officers got assassinated in new york. nobody from that white house, other than biden was here. where was the attorney general? where was loretta when poor kid got shot in the face twice last week. no representation from the federal government. i get upset about it. they run to ferguson and all over the case. how about the cops out there dying like yesterday almost. >> how about the african-americans dying at the hands of cops. >> milwaukee county sheriff david clarke will join us to weigh in on the racial divide from coast to coast. >> i think that white supremacy is so engrained that you don't have to have a white person around to have white supremacy play out. >> so is media coverage of the
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live from america's news headquarters. i'm patricia stark. boston marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev has been sentenced to death them federal jury reaching the decision on friday after more than 14 hours of deliberations. tsarnaev now 21 was convicted last month of all charges against him. the defense tried to save his life by pinning the blame on his radicalized older brother. the bombing killed three and injured 260 others. meantime investigators still trying to figure out what caused an amtrak train to derail in philadelphia killing eight people. in the ntsb saying it's examining damage on the train to see if it was hit by an object. the idea has raised the possibility the engineer was distracted panicked or wounded. the engineer told investigators he can't remember anything from the crash. i'm patricia stark.
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now back to "hannity." welcome back to the special edition of "hannity." joining me with reaction to the escalating racial tension, alveda king. >> sean sean. >> what did i do now? >> you know how to stir the boiling pot. the melting pot of america is boiling over and you were right on with this discussion. >> okay. i want to know -- i'm a radio and television host. i want to know if the president of the united states -- what would your uncle think of his statements and michelle obama's statements that she made recently about the current situation about race in america? >> my uncle would understand that mrs. obama, the first lady of the united states of america,
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was functioning from the pain of the human soul. the human spirit and look at the content of character rather than the color of skin. we have skin color and that's part of the human experience. we cannot live there. we must be elevated. that's where the answers are going to be. when we go in to the spirit the human spirit and connect with god and find our solution. >> you know sheriff clarke you hear the president. we played his comments about police officers. i told the story about this nelson county sheriff in kentucky who actually said that wow, they shot a perpetrator, police department. we were glad he's white. we shouldn't have to be worried about that. where's that kind of comment
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having to come from? >> first of all, i don't like the kmechblt let me say this. who would have thought we would need a period of reconstruction similar to after the civil war after the election of the first black president of the united states? sean one of the reasons we can't have a discussion on race in america, listening to your last segment is people talk over each other and you can't get a word in edge wise. let me say this about the first lady. i thought it was pathetic. it is i know your pain moment. when you talk to young people that i talk to people in the wisconsin area. i give them a message of hope. sure it is tough in life and you have to come from behind. you started off but you can catch up as we go on. the way i have approached this thing, i have forgiven america for the past sins of slavery. i didn't say forget. i have forgiven them for that and i decided to leave that plantation and shed the
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emotional baggage so i can participate in the main stream. that's the message i share with young people, instead of this perpetual creation and division of turmoil between blacks and whites in america. i think it's been a destructive period of time the last six years. i think it can get better. first it will have to start with less emotion. i think that is both sides of the table here. >> ail veelveda, the president talks about high-profile race cases. we have an epidemic of young people we don't know their names like trayvon martin, freddie brown of kids killed in this country every day, including atlanta where you and i used to live. why doesn't the president talk about that when the numbers are much higher than the incidents with police? >> there again, elevation is required. content of character,
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recognizing that these young men, young women, young teenagers are human beings. we're not recognizing them as human beings. we have a skin color war which is primitive. the skin color war is primitive. we have to elevate. dealing with the content of character. recognizing the worth of each of these young people and once we recognize that worth, give them a reason to live. not a reason to be angry. not a reason to feel as though they are still on the plantation that they are still the victims. they need to know that there's something of value in their lives and this can be done. i agree with sheriff clarke. >> what's your reaction sheriff? we have an epidemic of young people killing young people. we don't know their names. we don't hear the president talk about that. it is a plins police incident high profile. it is a narrative that he wants to advance we hear about it.
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why doesn't he use the power of the presidency for that? >> that's what i keep my fingers crossed every time i speak on this issue as he stumbles out of the gate. here's an opportunity here. he's a role model for young people and young blan black mern men across america. what he should do is to remind people of lifestyle choices. it's the behavior of many of these young black men in urban ghettos that cause most of the problems that they endure. it is self inflicted. i think they would listen more coming from him than somebody else. i think it is a missed opportunity. a swing and miss. when you look at everything through the lens of race you will find boogieman lurking around every corner. when i listened to michelle obama, first lady of the united states with all due respect, i
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couldn't tell if she was talking about 2015 or 1815. >> powerful statement from both of you. good to see you both. up next on this special edition of "hannity." >> when will we have a language to talk about the systemic violence that white folks do in the -- >> the media are not helping when it comes to racial tensions in the country. we will check in with the demure and quiet, shy studio audience as the special edition of "hannity" continues straight ahead. caring for someone with alzheimer's means i am a lot of things. i am her best friend. i am her ally. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to her current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. vo: namenda xr doesn't change how the disease progresses. it shouldn't be taken by anyone allergic to memantine,
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language -- >> white supremacy is so engrained in the institution you don't have have a white person around to have white sup premises play out. with an constitution like american polices thatty believe is founded on anti-blackness. >> you say cops really we have to say, really bad cops. a small number of cops. >> all black suspects. >> one of the emerging issues now is the state of race relations with the police department. >> so is the mainstream media hurting or helping racial tension in america? we braing bring back our audience. i would say of course there is racist in america and i think the worst thing you could say is they are racist and most people would never want to be ostracized that way. but when you listen to that -- >> msnbc -- >> al sharpton's network. >> they have a narrative and are playing though their base. i think a lot of times what you
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have is leading reporters. unlike yourself who wants to question what you are hearing from the government so many take the press release from the white house and that's what they report. that's what the white house wants. they want to zone in on their narrative, that's the democratic party's big go. president obama bashes police because he wants federal law enforcement reform. >> maybe to federalize it. >> state and local. he is all about big brother. that's the problem. that's what we are seeing the same narrative we saw from johnson and kennedy when they did the war on poverty. the government is not the solution. that's a perfect example. >> tom hasn't spoken yet. in case you know that is such a cute couple. they are married. you traveled the country a lot with deneen. i'm friends with both of you. you have seen ugliness because your wife is a black conservative. you experienced the ugliness. she wrote a book about the
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ugliness. >> absolutely. evidence that the way you win by going to the communities. we went to the naacp meeting last year where there was a woman strooem screaming in deneen's face. the media forgot to question why, why is this happening? what is the root cause? is anyone asking why president obama wants to veto the voucher schools in d.c.? >> do we agree on that wouldn't vouchers save kids from failing schools? >> obama's illegal action on immigration, what's that going to do for black unploichlt obama's climate regulation drive electricity prices higher. >> immigration, more people competing for maybe some -- >> the word that has come up over and over again. it started with stacey but was repeated by others is plantation. the reality. >> that's a hard word. >> it's a hard word but a powerful word. the method metaphorical
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plantation that a lot of folks like baltimore and chicago is the plantation of victimization and what michelle and obama, the first lady are pushing are shackles of vil victimization so i'm destine for a particular lifestyle. this administration has had a war on vouchers on school choice. which would liberate these folks. >> rod is shaking his head. i have known you a lot of years. i don't see you shake your head a lot. >> i dits agree. i don't think the message that's given by the white house is plantation. >> he said victimization too. >> michelle said you are going to be victimized how about the message there are ignorant people. i have met them. we have all met them. >> what's the reality?
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what she was saying at that graduation is regardless of what you think you are you can achieve higher. that's the message i heard from the first lady. i have to say this about policing. that's something i know a little bit about. >> a lot about. >> it is unfortunate this is falling at the feet of police officers police are not the problem 0. bo am i right? >> it is the politicians. >> the politicians are the problem. look at eric garner. he died for a $7 cigarette. okay. >> they want tax money. >> we are using our police are unregulated tax revenue collectors. >> there's some truth to that. some truth there. >> sean this is -- >> why would he put a chokehold, for $7 fine for a cigarette. >> i'm a martial artist. it was a head lock not a choke hold. >> where the media has been trying to address the underlying issues which
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affects all people. those are civil liberties. criminal justice reform. civil forfeitures. all issues we should all care about in our communities. the over militarization of the police in the country. they use military equipment against our communities. >> of color and white communities and other. >> they were told to stand down in baltimore. >> in ferguson and in baltimore, these were all minority businesses. we had all of the ferguson business owners in the studio. >> we should be talking about the deeper issues these situations reveal. bring people together. >> government dependency maybe an attitude that says that the world -- >> does not work. >> coming up final thoughts from our great studio audience after the break. straight ahead.
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>> did you bring a funnel? this is not the spring break show. >> the violence in the street is the end of the funnel. we need reform. 2.3, 2.4 million people are in prison. about 61% of them are black and hispanic. on the street it's amplified by mistrust of a system some guys are cycling back into society. if hopeless these folks feel like they don't have a chance. >> it's hard to break that cycle. iet s it is. >> do you know what we're having a hard time talking about this end, that end. >> do you know it's teaching the kids trades to be plumbers electricians teach them trades so they've got something in their lives, not going to look at rap song was gold and diamonds and bentleys and rolexs. >> i want to say we talk about racism, we talk about one
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directional. there are more racists on the left than all of the conservatives on the planet. we've got to hold our community responsible. >> there are racists on both sides. >> it's uni directional. in baltimore 370 more crime. what are you talking about not sending more cops there? >> we hear about white privilege. so what? you still have to take care of your loved ones and community get cleaned up. go out, be a productive citizen. let the white race be amazed and stunned. >> we agree there are some racists but if you work hard and study and develop marketable skills, do you agree you will succeed? >> right. you can become the president of the united states.
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>> right. >> go get a degree develop marketable skills i argue you cannot fail in america. >> power concedes to nothing without a demand. so you're going to have to push for it. $1.8 billion that went to baltimore $50,000 per person in baltimore. i want to demand an investigation from this justice department, show me the money. where did the money go? >> add to that a billion a year for schools? >> the bottom line is that there is a lot of mistrust in the community. families, and police sxh surprised
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to have >> we do need to fix the families, though. in the communities, the families need to be fixed. and with that the communities and city they need to be fixed. >> generational poverty that exists happened under the liberal domestic policy. >> we'll end it there. >> more on the special edition of "hannity" straight ahead.
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>> a special o'reilly factor is on. tonight: the political edition. >> running for president for a second time arkansas governor mike huckabee accuses president obama of selling out our closest ally israel. >> this is a president who has spent more time scolding israel for building bedrooms in neighborhoods than he has scolding iran for trying to build a nuclear bomb. >> an early leader in the g.o.p. race, wisconsin governor walker has strong views on president obama's controversial immigration plans. >> this president went from once talking about the audacity of hope to the audacity of the power grab. >> going to run against hillary? >> it's very likely. >> does former rhode island governor lincoln chafee really think he has a shot to defeat hillary
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