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plaza. 48th and 6th at "fox and friends." >> i love that song. great to have him. >> someday nicholas will be playing our concert series i'm sure of it. >> log on to foxandfriends.com for the after the show show. bill: the fall of a key city in iraq will now lead to a change in policy. reportedly president obama is considering a change, but what can that change be? i'm in america fms newsroom with my partner here. martha: the administration insisting the isis victory in ramadi not a game changer. josh earnest refusing to admit it's a major problem.
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>> it doesn't mean there haven't been areas of setback as there have been in ramadi. martha: we are going to get reaction from adam kin. but first doug, tell us what strategy the white house ply be considering. >> reporter: the capture of ramadi only 70 miles west of baghdad. more seriously than josh earnest let on yesterday. >> are we going to light our hair on fire every time there is a setback with is i will * -- with isil or
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will we've valuate our strategy -- or will we evaluate our strategy. >> when a major city in iraq, ramadi gets overrun by isil and the administration says it's a temporary setback it's 70 miles from baghdad. it's time to get set for this threat. >> reporter: the white house says president obama reaffirmed support for president al-abadi's efforts. ramadi was falling last week the u.s. committed to provide baghdad sources with
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1,000 shoulder-fired missiles. this is a weapon iraqi forces say they desperately need. basically suicide cars all approaching cities in one fell swoop. they say they need those showed her fired missiles. they are scheduled to arrive sometime in june. martha: the critics say it could be too little too late. >> reporter: retaking cities is much more difficult than retaking ground. >> it's too late for these cities. we are not going have cities going into these cities to do it and i don't think the iraqis will do it. >> reporter: the
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administration is not considering sending u.s. ground troops into iraq but that's what critics say is needed. bill: congressman kinsinger says that's what's needed. if they call it a success what would you call it? >> iraq is part of this fight against isis or isil. we are talking about it in libya. in you this yeah it's all over the world you are seeing groups align themselves with it. in iraq i would call it at best a stalemate. obviously the fall of ramadi means a big deal even though the
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administration is trying to down play it. they need to say here is the red line and we'll destroy isis and use the proportional violence of the military to the point where we can destroy this threat. bill: 11 months ago the president said this. the he nalgae we use is when a jv team puts on uniforms for the lakers it doesn't make them kobe bryant. >> when the president said that we see it's not just a flip statement, it's dangerous at best to say this is a jv team. not only is isis growing if that threat. you are seeing boko haram al-shabaab and they are all gaining strenltsd under that
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jihadist umbrella. bill: you call the administration tone death and perhaps that's changing now. what do you want them to hear in terms of changing the strategy to make it effective if you believe the current fight is in anbar province specific to today? >> the province has to -- the president has to stand up and say we are going to have to destroy this. if it's not president obama that destroys this threat it will be the next president of the united states. so he's needs to say we are going to use the middle power necessary to defeat them. that would mean direct action folks. it will take forward air controls. it will take empowering the sunni tribes that feel
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disempowered. bill: the white house would argue the strategy is working because they went into kobani and beat isis there. they went into tikrit three weeks ago and knocked them back there. >> i don't ever want to down play a victory in the west. but losing ramadi is a huge deal. that controls the supply route between jordan and syria. that's much bigger than they say. i get why they down play it because it makes us look bad. they can say we need success in these other areas. but the isis threat is not just in iraq, it's in libya and syria. sir, thank you for your time. adam kinzinger republican from
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illinois. martha: this news of the fall of ramadi is sickening. one gold star mother. debbie's son was the first to be killed in the iraq war. she says the city's loss is much more than a setback. she wants to know her son's death was not in vain and we'll keep those symbolic cities we sack kri fightsed -- we sacrificed so much for. bill: reports of isis sending money and men already into that country with no working government to speak of. martha: this is sphreegd a lot of areas and needs to be dealt with on a much more large scale
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comprehensive method. we'll talk with that coming up in just a moment. in the meantime, another fox news alert. in california a broken onshore pipeline has turned out oil into california storm drains and into the pacific before it was shut down yesterday. fire and coast guard officials explaining the extents of the damage. >> the beach was covered in thick black crude. the waves coming in were black oil. >> the crude was discovered leaking. the pipeline is a quarter mile from the freeway and led to train tracks and under a culvert that led to the ocean that allowed the pollution to reach the ocean.
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martha: they shut down the beaches before memorial day weekend and it's expected to stretch much farther into the ocean. bill: hillary clinton answering questions from the media but it was not without pressure our own ed henry. >> maybe when i finish talking to the people here. bill: what did the front runner for democrats have to say after a 28-day blackout. karl rove weighs in. martha: the biggest automotive recall in american history. 34 million airbags are at risk of exploding and sending fly fly the shrapnel at drivers. plus this ... >> oh be no go this way the
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of it nuclear facilities. the ayatollah khomeini said inspectors will not be allowed in through any deal. six world powers in iran are working to hammer out final nuclear agreements that's suppose to be done by the june 30 deadline that would need to include access for the u.n. atomic agency to get into the suspicious sites. bill: hillary clinton ending her nearly month-long media blackout. it started when ed henry asked if she would speak with the media as well as her supporters. >> wait, wait ... yes maybe when i finish talking to the people here. how's that? i might.
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i'll have to ponder it. but i will put it on my list for due consideration. bill: she touched on a range of topics including the controversy over her private emails many of which have been deleted. >> i have said repeatedly, i want those emails out. nobody has a bigger interest in getting them released than i do. i respect the state department, they have their process they do for everybody not just for me. but anything they might do to expedite that process i heartily support. i want the american people to learn as much as they can about the work we did with our diplomat and development experts. i want them out as soon as they can get out. >> will you demand it? >> they are not mine, they belong the state department. bill: karl rove is with us out
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of austin, texas. the post says after 40,000,150 minutes she speaks to the press. based on what you heard yesterday as prompted by ed henry, what did you hear? >> i didn't hear much. it was bob and weave. if looks could kill we would be sending the henry family most condolence. she was asked about the foundation. was it aprepiate to receive foreign gift while she was secretary of state? she says, i'm proud of the foundation. she was asked would we be better off with saddam hussein in power? she said it wouldn't be proper
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for her to comment. whenned about her income she said i'm going to reshuffle the deck. what does that mean? she was asked about sydney blumenthal. it turns out he was involved with the libyan government trying to get business deals. he was communicating with her on an email address that her lawyer says wasn't active until she left the secretary of state's office. raise morgue questions. then you ran the bit of tape on the emails. she was asked should they get out and second of all do you think it was appropriate for you to be giving speeches when you were in the runup to the president. you heard the answer on the first which is, i want these out. you were the one who worked to hide your emails from the american people by putting them on a private server and it's in
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violation of the rules and regulations of the state department. and it's now under investigation by the inpick tore general. if she wants them out let us have the hard drive if you want them out. bill: you hear from democratic side as well. they want this answered also. a little more from yesterday. >> i'm proud of the foundation. i'm proud of the work it has done and is doing. it attracted donations from people organizations from around the world and i think that go to show people are very supportive of the life saving and life change work it's done here and elsewhere. bill: i think that will be a similar response you will hear for some time. >> a lot of great things. bill: help me with this.
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the state department was trying to set a deadline for mid-january to put a staff of 12 going through 55,000 pages of email. but knowing that, and the judge came back and said you have to release them now. what was the strategy to push this off to mid-january where in he sense it would be two weeks before the iowa caucus. >> the longer it goes on the more they will say this is old news. walk on past this car wreck. you don't see anything. this is it typical way the clintons handle things. and look, the foundation, can i go back to that for a second? it just grabs me. we've attracted money from around the world. one of the biggest if not the
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biggest single donor is this canadian today who got contracts because clinton helped him. then the deputy floats favor of this canadian gazillionaire selling his uranium to the putin. bill: the judge said the emails will be released on a rolling basis and not waiting until they are all ready. thank you for your time. more yeses to come out of austin texas. martha: this is turning into the largest automotive recall in
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history. could the air bag in your car be deadly? >> this recall involves 11 auto manufacturers. many different parts suppliers, not just a today. ar and i feel great because i used the truecar app. truecar knows what other people paid for this car so i know if i'm getting a fair price. this is how car buying was always meant to be. this is truecar. (cheerful music)
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martha: this is the largest automotive recall in u.s. history. japanese manufacturer pair bag takata -- airbag takata found the chemical inside the bagsed to inflate them could explode. many of the cars affected by the
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recall are hones today and toyotas which you see -- 0 hondas and toyotas. they tried to fend off some of these recalls. >> they fought back for a year. now they are forced to recall 1 in 7 cars on the roads. it will take years and years to change these bags. this is the biggest recall in american history. huge deal. people need to be check out their cars and making sure it's not in their car. martha: it's easier to return your tylenol than your car. >> i called some of these dealerships yesterday because that's where the work is going to be done. they say they don't even have
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the products in hand and they won't until july or august. some of them laughed at us and said they don't have the product. 367 go to safercar.gov to see if they have the product. if you can't do it and you have small children, demand a loaner. martha: where is that rap nell coming from? >> i have a takata airbag here. when it's in your dash it's like this. here's what's on the other side. and what is so critical. this is the lead that tells the airbag to expand.
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they activate ammonium nitrate in the bag. what's supposed happen is gas comes out of the holes around this heavy holder. that's not what happened in these cases. it was too unstable. the material explode. feel how heavy this is. millions of pieces coming at you hundreds of miles an hour. some of the cops on the scene said this was like going to a homicide because people westerly so horribly injured. martha: do they know this new product will help? >> i had a former administrator on the show last night and she says they have to test new airbags. martha: people should call the dealer and insist the company
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gives them a loaner. thank you very much. good to see you as always. bill: severe weather spark an outbreak of devastating tornadoes. we are live on the ground to take you there next. martha: the president said we would destroy isis and they would quote lose. what's he saying now? >> we know that hope is not a strategy. the president's plan sphnt working. it's time for him to come up with an overarching strategy to defeat the ongoing terrorist threat.
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texas broke out. that's just one of many twisters roaring through the area. heavy damage to some of the buildings there. >> i heard something outside i thought it was hail. a guy said it was a tornado. i saw a piece of tinfoil fly by. never having been in one it was scary. >> reporter: here we are seeing a lot of flash flooding. they had a terrible time. more than 6 inches fell. this creek which is overflowing there was tons of water. we have video we want to show but those tornadoes. mineral well the was one area that was really hit hard. several homes have been leveled.
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several more homes also destroyed because of what it believed to be tornado. we talked to some people who live in that area and they tell us it all seemed to happen out of nowhere lots of high wind. people were frightened and got into their bathtubs and tried to put mattresses over them and anything else they can think of. one guy told me his house is safe but this friend lost everything. certainly a situation where this morning date and light people are look at everything and wondering what's next. a lot of cleanup ahead. a lot of people think no one was hurt. but they will be dealing with this more some time.
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>> we'll degrade and ultimately destroy isil through a comprehensive and sustained counter-terrorism strategy. our co-leg is on the offensive, isil is on the defensive and isil is going to lose. >> we firmly believe d earks sh is d we believe daesh is on the defensive. martha: president obama and his advisors telling americans isis will lose. they have taken ramadi, a town of 300,000. many are now dead are refugees. i'm joined by the chairman of the homeland security committee.
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you listen to those sound bites from the president and the military and it sounds like a different picture to what some say are unfolding here. >> the rhetoric doesn't meet the reality. ramadi is where the sons of the awakening took place. to say we are on the offense and isis is on the defense is incredulous. the black flags are flying there now and this is a key transit point between syria and iraq and now it's fallen to isis. of what the strategy is, i'm not quite sure what that strategy is, it's not working. i was just over in iraq. the prime minister of iraq asked the white house for more military he distance. he was not given that.
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he was given humanitarian he distance. now he has to rely on the shiia militia because the iraqi army is so incompetent. he has to rely on a proxy of iran shiia militia to come in and fight isis. this will only inflame and make the sunni-shiia divisions deeper. martha: what's the option? i read through three or four different military advice columns. most say unless we put boots on the ground and we do stepped up training and we are with them every step of the way are you in favor of that and is there support for that in congress? >> we shouldn't have pulled out
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precipitously in the first place, but having said that. having more special operations on the ground and not taking the options on the table. his authorization -- his council said he's asking for less authority than what he currently has. martha: they are saying if congress doesn't sign that authorization of military force we can't go forward and saying the ball is in your court. >> the want we want to -- the ball we want to go forward is to defeat and destroy isis. martha: you are talking about more training for iraqi soldiers. they have disappointed this effort over and over and over again. do you think more training of
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them will work and why would it work when it hasn't worked in the past? >> the iraqi national army is not the iraqi national army we trained four years ago. it's not a fighting force. it's a withdrawal force. the peshmerga are aghting force. we need to look creatively as a ground force that can win this thing. i think we have to put more special operations forces in there toward the syrian bored and into syria to defeat them. i don't see the president right now, the administration's policy as a serious attempt to win this. martha: in "the washington post" fred kay began says if the president does not change course soon pell find himself with a terrorist state and a region engulfing sectarian wear.
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do you agree with that? >> yes. from my perspective any time you have a failed state a power vacuum a place where terrorism can breed and conduct external on races i see iraq and syria as that kind of place. i see north africa devolving into that kind of place. if we don't provide stability to the region we'll have a serious homeland security threat that exists today. this is not some far off distant planned and issue we can ignore. and something we have to deal with. i think we need a more aggressive strategy and that's looking now. >> chairman mccaul, thank you very much. bill: 20 minutes before the hour. hillary clinton downplaying her
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relationship with a long-time friend and political ally. >> should americans expect if elected president you would have this same type of relationship you would have with these sold friend you have had for a while? >> i have many, many old friend. bill: how many old friend will get subpoenaed by congress? martha: now for something completely different. a possible i student cuts a killer deal. she is accused of murdering a going the executive by inspecting him with heroin. now she is going to jail. >> i think it takes two to tango.
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released. they give some insight into the mindset of the terror leader at the time he was taken and killed in that compound. suggesting he wanted his followers to stay focused on the united states instead of dissolving into muslim infighting. we are going to get insight into how much of them were rolled out. as soon as we get more on this, we'll bring it to you. bill: the benghazi select committee served a subpoena or an old-time clinton confidante. emails show sidney blumen than secretly consulted with hillary
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clinton while he was trying to get contracts in libya. but hillary clinton downplayed his influence. >> i have many, many old friend. it's important when you get into politics to have friend you had before you got into politics. he's been a friend of mine for a long time. he sent me unsolicited emails which i passed on in some instances. that's just part of the give and take. when you are in the public eye in an official position you have to work to make sure you are not caught in a bubble and you only hear from a certain small group of people. i'm going to keep talking to my old friend whoever they are. jonah, who is sidney blumenthal. refresh our minds about his relationship with the clinton family.
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you hear hillary clinton say i like to took you my old he friends, on get out of my bubble which is nonsense. he's a political mercenary could could be placed as an advisor to a prince. he's a hatchet man for the children tons, they use him as a political tool when he was allegedly an objective reporter. there is a reason why the obama administration refused to let clinton hire this guy. he's a very sketchy guy. bill: isn't he the one when president obama said keep blumenthal fare, faraway. you go back to aristotle on the need to keep vipers faraway. bill: how has he earned that
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opinion you are offering. >> for all sorts of reasons. go back to the monica lewinsky mess. he went around flying reporters lying could columnists at the "new york times" and others about what he was asked by the grand jury. when the transcripts came out it turns out none of the questions he claims was asked were actually asked of him. he said monica lewinsky a was the stalker who attacked bill clinton. he peddled rumors around town about clinton's enemies. he's knowns for that kind of thing. bill: with regard to libya every was advising business associates on how to win contracts after qaddafi fell. you remember when she appeared before that senate committee and rand paul raised this question.
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roll it. >> it's been in news reports that ships have been leaving from libya and they may have weapons. what i want to know is the an ex-close by, were they involved in buying, selling and transferring weapons and were they being transfer toward countries. >> you will have to direct that question to the agency that ran the an ex-d the annex. >> you are saying you don't know? >> i don't have any information on that. bill: whether it's sidney blumenthal or not this story runs very deep. >> one of the things i'm eager to see is whether these emails that clinton has -- the ones she hasn't deleted do they include these emails from sidney
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blumenthal. she says she turned over all work-related emails. the blumenthal ones are clearly work relate where thee has a freelance shadow intelligence adviser getting paid by the clinton foundation and the various liberal activist griewchts that are basically fronts for clint on campaign as well. while she is trying to get a paycheck or seems to be from these shady libyan business interests, are these emails she handled over? we don't know. bill: libya is a hot mess. sphp jonah goldberg in d.c., thank you. martha: we are starting to get a look at what's inside some of these bin laden documents. there has been pressure to
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release them and 100-plus of them have come out since this raid. talking about this concerns about security and his concerns about drones. all of that coming when we come back.
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bill: about a hundred documents from the bin laden compound have been made public. apparently he was concern about the aftereffects of 9/11. talks about u.s. intelligence. how aware he was of drone strikes take out senior leaders. talking about the security leaders communicating by email. he scolds his followers for gathering in large groups.
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he lays out plans to groom a new set of leaders for al qaeda. pmple and on and on it goes. martha: a guilty plea in a case of sex drugs and murder. this alleged prostitute sentenced to six years in prison after pleading guilty to injecting heroin into this man. he died later as she finished her wine, packed up her things and left. surveillance video was key in this wab wasn't it? >> reporter: the surveillance video that was shot from the cab yifn that yacht that prompted the hooker to seek a plea deal.
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cops say it showed her acting in a callus way. but the prosecutor said it wasn't that bad. >> reporter: somebody described her as calmly and cooley sitting down and watching him die. that is never in that video. >> reporter: the defense attorney said it was an accidental overdose between two consenting adults that killed hayes. >> there was responsibility on his part. he had the power. he had the control. >> reporter: but the
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prosecutor says tichelman did not call 911. bill: the administration has selected 100 documents from the bin laden compound.
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we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. martha: just over four years since the raid that killed usama bin laden. now u.s. intelligence officials are finally releasing more than 100 documents that were found in the compound in a baud today baud. we're just getting a look at all of that as we start hour two. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. officials discovered a treasure trove of information raiding that compound. now some of that is being made public. martha: chief correspondent catherine herridge is gypping that process with us now and she joins us now. catherine, what's the headline here? >> reporter: one of the headlines is that these documents for the first time are going to take us inside the mind
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of usama bin laden. we have reviewed one letter that was posted just within the last few minutes bit director of national intelligence and that letter speaks to the uss cole attack and what was some dissent within the al qaeda organization about launching that attack in 2000. that was seen as one of the seminal attacks leading up to 9/11. it will give us a piece of history and insight into usama bin laden's mind. i would caution these are english language translations from the arabic and it will be difficult to verify whether these translations are entirely accurate, martha. martha: because interpretations could obviously vary when they are translated and we have just started looking through some of these letters as well. i remember when this happened, and as bill just said, we were told there was a treasure trove of intel that was gathered. we have spoken to some of the people in that operation and they wanted to know as well as many others where has it been? what took so long to get this
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stuff out? >> reporter: well the statement this morning is that the release of these documents, sort of two bucket one that had to be declassified and the other which could be released sort of as-is if you will is keeping with the administration's pledge of transparency. you have to take that with a grain of salt because the reason these documents, the release was almost a forced release is because language was included in the ndaa, the national defense authorization act by you now chairman of the house intelligence committee, devin nunez demanding the release of these documents because the criticism has been what had been released today was kind of cherry-picked to portray this picture of bin laden as kind after feckless leader losing control of his organization when the less than 20 documents were really not even so scratching the surface what had been recovered from the compound in pakistan martha. martha: so in terms of the big picture here and how these
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documents might be useful to sort of giving us an indication how active he was then, clearly in some of what we've seen so far, he was calling actively for more attacks on the west, correct? >> reporter: that's right. based on a review by the afp that was given an advance review of these documents which i think begs further questioning and why other news organizations were not, is that it portrays bin laden as still focused on the united states but also trying to maintain order and limit division within his organization. so was the judgment that al qaeda was on the run really a backed up by these documents? or will they in fact show that part of his grand plan was to create this ideology that could operate independently in different parts of the world which is in effect what we're seeing today martha. martha: seeing that happen exactly. catherine, thank you very much. >> reporter: you're welcome. bill: colonel ralph peters fox
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strategic analyst, good morning to you. i see things that tick out. he was looking for large-scale terror operations. a lot of them were carried out by lone wolves and you could make that case here in the u.s. in regard to those circumstances. with regard to the arab spring, according to the afp, bin laden was stunned by uprisings, erupted across the region, in 2010, seizing quote the moment of revolution and rally muslim youth. first glance at this, colonel what do you see? >> what i see is an attempt by the administration to divert our attention from the fall of ramadi. do you think it is an accident that these documents are suddenly dumped on us when the administration is horribly embarrassed by having claimed islamic state was on the defensive? so what they're doing is they're putting out these documents, showing bin laden was a threat to the homeland. he wanted to get america.
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we killed bin laden. they're reverting to their one foreign policy win in six 1/2 years. i find it very cynical. i'm anxious to read all the documents. hopefully they're well-translated but i suspect they too have been carefully cherry-picked. bill: lawmakers wanted it out there and critics accuse of the cia withholding material. i got it. you have this major collapse of a key city0 miles west of baghdad. ramadi is falling here but remember what catherine just said. we were told ad died was on the run. these documents at early glance show that bin laden was was communicating often and with many people about the direction of this islamic movement. >> yeah. we'll have a look at the dates of documents and what was actually said. there is no question about the fact that the obama administration wildly underestimated appeal of islamic
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fanaticism. they still won't talk about in terms today. through last weekend they were talking about the lack of potency of the islamic state. no question the islamic state its hideous beliefs, but above all its brutal practices have incredibly powerful appeal to disaffected young men throughout much of the muslim world and in the west. so i think the administration has just been, it is in denial. it is struggling desperately to show that it is keeping us more secure but i don't see the evidence. bill: you mentioned ramadi. adam kinzinger republican from illinois, serves in the air national guard, was in iraq six months ago, this is what he said about a call for a strategy to knock isis back now. >> i commend them on resetting the strategy but i think instead of saying here is the red line we'll not put anymore troops in, here is the red line, we'll destroy isis. we'll use proportional violence of the military to the point where we can destroy this
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threat. bill: so, colonel, come back circle back to your opening comment here. how do you destroy isis with a new strategy and ramadi today? >> well, you kill them. you keep on killing them for years. you don't stop killing them until they're gone. but the problem is we're focused on the wrong things. the administration's primary focus right now is on the pretense that iraq humpty-dumpty iraq can be put back together. iraq is over. it is dead. it is finnished. as a result of that we're not focusing on what we should be focusing on, killing islamic state militants wherever we can find them. we're focused on fiction of the baghdad government in the future winning over hearts and minds of sunni-arabs and kurds and everybody will be happy. we funnel arms to the iraqi government. they never make it to the kurds or sunni-arabs who are willing to fight the islamic state. you know what our one success has been bill in all of this in iraq? we've been very successful at
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arming islamic state because we give the weapons to the iraqi government. they give them to their troops. and the troops run away. look at vehicles islamic state is driving. look at their weapons. bill: we've seen it. >> those are, that is u.s. estimate equipment. we've sign it, colonel ralph peters reacting to the breaking news. more with martha. >> thank you. >> let's go to john bolton former u.s. ambassador to the united nations and fox news contributor. good morning, ambassador bolton. good to have you with us. getting a look at all this. you heard what colonel peters is saying. he thinks the timing of this release is somewhat interesting do you? >> i think that would be par for the course for this administration. we also don't know whether this load of documents is really representative of what was taken in the bin laden raid or if those documents themselves are really representative of the state of al qaeda at the time. but i do think there is some interesting material even on first glance particularly the point you mentioned a moment ago
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that bin laden saw the arab spring as an opportunity to enhance al qaeda's influence to i can pick up recruits. that is the exact opposite of the obama administration. many academics, think tank people journalists around the world who said the arab spring is really alternative the opposite to islamic terrorism. i think bin laden predicted the future a lot more accurately. he saw the arab spring leading to more radicalism. martha: quite accurately it would appear. it is interesting he did not want a islamic state. don't put your focus on an islamic state. instead you what need to attack u.s. embassies. he gave specific embassies. togo he mentioned. hitting american oil companies as a big priority for him. seems there was a bit of a divide in the leadership because everybody else went to the lone wolf attacks we've seen or smaller sort of base things we've seen across the world. >> this is still the debate today between al qaeda and the
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islamic state. that al qaeda wants to focus on the united states. the islamic state wants to focus on blasphemers and apostasy within the islamic world and it's a debate where there is no happy outcome from our point of view because i think as isis consolidates its power in what used to be iraq and what used to be syria, the oil-producing monarchies an arabian peninsula are increasingly in jeopardy. they are the next targets of isis that seize control of oil assets there critical to really establishing the caliphate they want. this unity among terrorists is not necessarily a good thing for the united states. it is a permanent meant within this -- ferment within this broader islamist movement that poses multiple threats to us that we're still not clear about. martha: john bolton, thank you. see you next time. >> thank you. bill: so u.s. intelligence agencies have declassified 100 of these documents. there could be thousands.
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martha: absolutely. bill: no one really knows. martha: treasure trove of 103 documents? i don't know. bill: some dvds were taken outside of his hideout a mile from pakistan's west point. but these are the 100 they decided to put forth today. more to come on this, right? police calling for a truce between rival biker gangs after a deadly shootout in texas. law enforcement though not holding its breath for peace. >> i will tell you that in the gang world and in the biker world, that violence usually condones more violence. is this over? most likely not. bill: so will we see more violence? we'll talk to the former world leader of the one of the biker gangs involved in a moment. martha: severe flooding causing a home to be literally swept downstream. look at this. amazing video from, boy, what is going on in the heartland is unbelievable. more expected their way. bill: also a popular beach
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closed after a huge oil spill. look at that mess there. a massive cleanup effort ahead. so how bad is it? we'll find out. >> i think the initial report that the responsible parties put out was 21,000 gallons of fuel was released but we don't have a firm number. that is just an initial estimate. these numbers change all the time. building aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman.
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bill: so a home swept away by floodwaters in southern chile.
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watch this. torrential rains causing a river to overflow and takes that home with it downstream. at least four other homes destroyed or carried away by that flooding. look how fast the water goes. several other homes were damaged. 100 people still not able to go back home as forecasters predict more heavy rain for that same area. martha: the waco police are calling for a truce between rival motorcycle gangs after nine bikers died during a shootout over the weekend in waco, texas. there are the police lining everybody up after the fact. 171 suspects. here are the pictures of these individuals. they now face charges engaging? organized crime, all the way up to capital crimes and murder are on the list as well. police warn that more motorcycle gang members may be heading to the area. >> is this over? most likely not. we would like it to be. we would ask there to be some
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type of truce between whatever motorcycle gangs are involved. we would encourage them to try to be a little peaceful and let the bloodshed stop. martha: edward is a former world leader of the ban didos motorcycle club one of the them involved in the violence. author of 10 books on motorcycle culture. edward good to have you here this morning. >> thank you for having me. martha: so, obviously you have lived in this world. it's a culture that many people across this country have zero familiarity with. i was reading last night about the cossacks and about the patch, basically of the state of texas that was apparently on their vest, that perhaps led to huge fight. they're battling over the territory of the state of texas. is that accurate? what is your understanding of what happened here? >> oh, it is very accurate. in the outlaw motorcycle club
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world the patch that they wear on the back of their vest, it is typically a three-piece patch. the top rocker usually designates the name of the organization. the center patch usually almost always is their logo. the bottom rocker, generally deck tates or designates the area the geographic territory in which they live. and in this case the barn deet toes have been -- banditos have been wearing a bottom rocker. they didn't allow any organizations in texas to wear that bottom rocker. approximately a year year-and-a-half ago, the cossacks decided to put on a texas bottom rocker. told the dandidos they were growing to do that. they told them they could not do that the cossacks told them they were going to do it anyway. since then there have been a bunch of minor skirmishes the level of violence and skirmishes
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escalated in march and april this year leading up to the altercation that occurred in waco on sunday. martha: you were obviously art pa of this world. for people on the outside of it what is this culture like? what is living in this world like? and why did you decide to leave it? >> well, everybody gets involved with motorcycle clubs for three reasons. brotherhood, comradery and the love of harleys. most of the guys, 60, to 70% of the guys that are in motorcycle clubs are just regular working guys. they have jobs, families, kids and they go to work every day like everyone else. the only thing they're guilty of is having a little bit too much fun on weekends. the reason i left the club in 2003. i was getting too old to put on amount of miles required to continue to be a bandido. i wanted to spend time with my 10-year-old daughter. i had full custody of her since
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she was four. i had five or six years left before she had her own life and i wanted to be there for her. martha: edward, thank you for a glimpse inside of this world, i hope -- do you think there will be more violence, quickly before i let you go? >> i think there is going to be more violence. i think when the clubs meet, when members of the clubs meet somewhere, there is a, a very good likelihood there may be more violence. i would hope that there wouldn't be but one thing i do want to point out that no one has pointed out yet is there were seven other clubs present there that morning waiting for the confederation of clubs meeting to start that were just witnesses and bystanders. all of the members of those clubs, to my knowledge, are part of that 170 people that are in jail right now. so those people will eventually be released once it is determined that the only thing they are is bystanders and witnesses. martha: very interesting. we'll see where it goes.
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edward winterhalder. good to speak with you, sir. >> my pleasure. bill: is this biggest charity scam ever? nearly $200 million deemed for cancer charities. instead paying for fancy cars and expensive trips. we investigate that next. martha: is the white house down playing the importance of losing ramadi? the mother of the first navy seal who was killed there will talk to us about that next. >> first, they were saying there was no symbolic, if it did fall. then they watched as the comments from general dempsey and now that it is falling they're making up excuses. we have blood on that soil. my son's blood is on that soil.
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martha: so the end of an era coming tonight. david letterman is set to tape his final show today.
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the late show host getting a bit of a surprise guest last night. watch. ♪ that's bill murray. he jumped out of a cake. he had goggles on. he rubbed icing all over everybody. quite interesting. there is a bear hug. he was very first guest, bill murray was on the letterman show. and, while he was over at nbc. letterman retiring of course from the late show after 22 years. murray pleaded with letterman to stay. please. >> we just want more, dave. [cheers and applause] >> more. more. [applause] >> good. bill: leave that guy. martha: i didn't see it last
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night. interesting. bill: i could see how murray plan as skit. i want to come out of a cake. martha: right. bill: no, i really want to come out of a cake. i want cake all over me. martha: there was sort of an inside box in the cake. when he burst through he got icing all over himself. two girls came out. there was more icing stuff. quite interesting. i wonder who is on tonight. bill: bob dylan was playing too. that ain't no easy ticket. 26 minutes past the hour. want to get to a lawsuit filed that accuses four charities helping to help people with cancer of being a sham. ultimately duping donors out of $187 million. >> it is really said and pathetic to think that anyone could use a disease like cancer which affects some millions of people out here from young kids to our parents, our aunts and uncles. someone could use that in order to raise money to support their lifestyle. it is frankly uncon shunnable. bill: john roberts live in our
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newsroom in atlanta. what did you find out? good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, bill. the federal trade commission which is leading enforcement action says this is one of the biggest cases of charity fraud in u.s. history. ftc and officials from 50 states four related charities cancer fund of america, canser support services children's cancer fund of america and breast cancer society were all scram operations that scammed million of dollars from good-hearted folks. charities run from james reynolds sr. and james reynolds the ii. operated as personal fiefdoms, rampant nepotism and frank grant compensation. and donations were spent not on cancer patients mostly on cars, trips luxury cruises, college tuitions, gym memberships sporting events, concert tickets and dating site memberships. georgia's attorney general sam owens told me this operation was the worst of the worst. >> this is terrible. this is outright fraud.
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taking from innocent folks. only 2.7% of the monies actually went for cancer help. this is about as bad as it gets. >> reporter: owens told me a few minutes ago he expected in addition to the civil action criminal charges will also be filed in this case. bill: what happens now or after that point john? >> reporter: well, two of the four charities have been shut down. the ftc reached a settlement agreement with three of the four principles. most of that money has already been spent. likely ftc will only get back a fraction of donations charities collected. in a statement, james reynolds the ii would not admit culpability. the officers and directors were not found guilty of any allegations of wrongdoing. the government has not proven otherwise. he added quote, giving back to the community is a mission that drives me. officials are still going after his father. they say they have got pretty much all the evidence they need, bill of all they need to do is get into court to shut down those other two charities. bill: we'll see if it works or
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not. john roberts on the story in atlanta. martha: breaking news. we're continuing to see more of the treasure trove as it was called of the documents found in the raid on usama bin laden's compound in pakistan including something quite interesting. it is a al qaeda martyr job application. we'll share that with you when we come back.
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martha: breaking news. u.s. intelligence officials now releasing 100 plus documents that were recovered from the 2011 bin laden raid. we have been going through the documents. we found an interesting one that shows that usama bin laden was essentially the head of human resources, putting out a job application for potential jihadis. this is fascinating. the application ask as series of questions you probably find when you apply for jobs or maybe not. the name, marital status, all of that normal stuff. then this, do you wish to execute a suicide operation? followed with a few other
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questions. like this. who should we contact in case you become a martyr? asking for the address and phone number of that person. meanwhile navy seal rob o'neill who is credited with killing usama bin laden describe what is he saw that day when they searched the compound. >> i didn't see the journal. obviously they found it t would have been good stuff. i know stuff we found there targeting other al qaeda operatives. i know it was treasure trove we found there. i wish we could have had more time there. it would have been nice to get everything out of there because i think we would have done a lot more damage to al qaeda than we already did even though we did quite a bit of damage to them that night. martha: he has long been wanting to see the documents to find out exactly what was in the stuff they gathered up that night. rob o'neill will joins us. bill: write clearly, legibly, name, age marital status. martha: good
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with al qaeda. bill: you wonder why intel analysts which is used to put out this material because there is a lot more coming. we'll try to get. martha: a lot of beautiful family letters that are included in this pile. so it will be something going through all of it which we're doing know. bill: meantime questions on this. is hillary clinton projecting an air of ininevitability as she makes the campaign trail. treating members of the news media like she is already president? that is what a piece written alleges. gentlemen good day to both of you. "politico," jack schaefer rights this on screen for viewers, what the press fables to appreciate about hillary clinton. she is not running for president, she is running as president. all the usual rules how and when she should speak don't apply to her. brad, do they? >> they don't apply to her. she believes she is going through a process that is inevitable. she will be the nominee of the party. she is only game in town so far
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that is credible. she will be president. we just have to wait for the day to occur. if you look at events the way they're highly staged, orchestrated, press kept back at 30 feet. rope and stan shun. hand-picked crowds. this is ed henry, frustration brought out yesterday when he shouted out his question. i think the american people are seeing through this, and i don't think it's a strategy that is going to get her the presidency in the end. bill: doug will it, the a the current rate? >> at some point she is ahead bill. she has no real rival for the democratic nominee, nomination. why should she expose herself to questions candidly she doesn't want to answer? that being said, she answered a few questions for a few minutes yesterday. i suspect she will keep doing it. as long as she doesn't face real opposition in the primaries and republicans are hopelessly divided i think her strategy is a sound one, logical reasonable one. bill: schaefer's next line is,
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in her mind, who can blame her? >> precisely. bill: you would agree doug? >> not only agree with her, bill, if i was in the room with her, which i have been before, not now not not future i would tell her the same thing and candidly it is good advice. i think my friend brad blakeman would agree with me. bill: maybe polling would suggest otherwise. "fox news poll" of hillary clinton. here it is on screen. it used be a lot better. 49% on the you ever favorable mark. that is as of now, brad. >> i respect fully disagree with doug. i think you have to earn the presidency. the way you earn it, especially when you're only game in town to make yourself accessible. republicans are not in disarray. we have process. the process it you have to be selected by the party before you're elected by the people. we're going through that process. we may haves am as 15 candidates running. >> i think it is 20 brad. >> i see that as democracy. i see that helpful to the party, getting, vetting the best possible candidate to be elected. so the republicans are not at
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disadvantage. i happen to think when you're only game in town and then republicans are battling it out and fighting for the principles and beliefs, i think american people appreciate that. bill: let me put you both on pause. bill de blasio, new york city mayor talking again this morning, doug and what he is looking for is a clearer path what she would do. >> sure. bill: he wants to hear it now. carping on the left day after day. here's the mayor. >> i think she is one of the most qualified people ever to run for the office but i think it is absolutely normal to want to hear a vision, for how to address what i think -- >> you haven't heard that yet? >> number it is early. by the way i would say this about any candidate. in this time we're in, we actually need to hear a specific vision for change. bill: a vision for change. i want to hear a vision. that is from cbs's morning show. best live shot of the day. they were on top of the new world trade center in lower manhatta answer the question doug, about
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the vision. sometimes when you take these questions from reporters you can lay out your vision but she hasn't done that. >> right. all in due time bill. we have a long way to go to election day. it is may of 2015. we have, what is it, 16, 17 months to go? she has plenty of time. as long as carping on the left and no real significant opponent like elizabeth warren from the left, she doesn't have to outline a vision. because the first thing that will happen, people like brad blakeman will attack her. so at this point -- bill: what is wrong with putting out a vision, doug? >> you get attacked. you get criticized. brad says there goes favorable rating down. she is in a strong position now. she will effectively wait things out. use prevent defense four corners offense and let time run out and let republican play out. bill: brad? >> how dare the american people set forth my policies and
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vision? i will do it when i do it. that is the clinton way. we do it the way we want to do it. we don't follow conventional rules. nobody is entitled to anything except us. guess what? that strategy isn't very good. not even a hint of what that strategy will be for her vision and policy, even though she is announced candidate. i think it is a failed strategy. bill: gentlemen, thanks to both of you. you know in basketball, folks when you run the four corners offense you know what you don't do? you don't score points. we'll see how long that strategy. >> dean smith pro of that it was pretty darn good strategy. bill: you win but don't score points. >> that's right. that is the idea. bill: martha? martha: well the mother of the first navy seal who was killed in iraq is speaking out on the fall of ramadi. and the heavy price that her son and our other troops once paid to free that city during the iraq war. >> my son's blood is on that soil. so many others have sacrificed
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greatly for that area. and there is, it just shows that there are things we could be doing differently there. there is tactics that could be employed that we could make a difference over there.
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bill: security experts saying theft of debit card data at atms is skyrocketing. hackers use a skimming device to capture a card number. breaches at atms located at banks, jumping astonishing 174%, from january to the first part of april compared to the same time a year ago. at nonbank atms, it is worse. data theft up a whopping 317%. ♪ >> are we going to light our hair on fire every time that there is a set back in the campaign against isil? will we take very seriously our
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responsibility to evaluate those areas where we succeed and evaluate where steps are necessary for to us change our strategy where we sustain setbacks? martha: white house press secretary josh earnest yesterday getting a little testy with reporters there downplaying the loss of ramadi, a key iraqi city overrun by isis terrorists this week. the mother of the first navy seal who was killed there during the iraq war is speaking out. debbie lee said she is sickened that her son mark died defending has fallen back into enemy hands now. debbie lee is also the founder and president of america's mighty warriors. she joins me once again here in "america's newsroom" now. good morning debbie. good to have you back on the program today. >> good morning, always good to be on the show. i wish there were a little different circumstances that we're coming on for? >> we all do. you heard josh earnest say, you can't get your hair on fire every time there is a setback in this. john kerry said over the next few days we'll be able to right the situation in ramadi.
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what do you make of their reaction to how we're doing there right now? >> i just think it is ridiculous and the incentive of the comments that are made. don't set your hair on fire? what kind of a flippant reply was that? we have blood, we have american blood that has been shed on the soil in ramadi. my son's blood is one of those. so many that have been wounded and injured over there. so many paid dearly a high price. we continue to hear remarks from the leadership from the white house. it is just a flippant attitude. personally i am sick and tired of that attitude coming back. our men and women are the best military that we have. if they were allowed to do what they're trained to do and do it successfully, we wouldn't see this happening. back in when we pulled all of the troops, when the decision was made by the administration to pull all those troops out, that was one of the things that i was very vocal about at the time. i've been to iraq. i was there in 2007. i went back in 2010. i saw the difference that our
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troops have made. i saw successes over there. because we didn't leave troops to stablize it, now we're seeing it fall back into the hands of isis and to see that black flag, flying over the city where my son gave his life, it is crushing. my son willingly gave his life defending his teammates. his sacrifice will never be in vain but to see that our leadership, our white house, our administration and the military doesn't have strategies to successfully take this back and make a difference over there, we're just going to see isis continue to push into baghdad and take baghdad. pretty soon all of iraq will be into their hands and that totally changes the whole impact of the middle east area over there and the threats on our national security. something needs to be done now. martha: debbie beyond your own personal story around the loss of your son, which i think every parent can feel when they hear you talk about mark, you're talking also about the strategy which is so significant in terms of the difference because when
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your son was there and others that he fought with, the sunni awakening was employed. there were boots on the ground that were actually able to bring together sunni and shia fighters to take back that city. all of that, with this backdrop. i just got this information coming in from sources at the pentagon, saying that they are not considering reviewing the strategy that we're employing right now to defeat isis. and here's a quote from one official. why would there be? it was one battle. a separate official said the pentagon continuously reviews its strategy and said a major review of strategy right now, is quote, not necessary. given what they see. they seem to be seeing a very different picture on the ground than what we've been seeing, frankly? >> and it just, again is that their strategy? is the strategy to fail over there? is that why they don't want to review and don't want success over there? they don't want to take that area back? you think about the iraqis that were fleeing from ramadi and the
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things that are happening to them. just human compassion, how do you let that happen? how do you let that continue the destruction of life and depravity that we see coming from the terrorists? it just, makes no, common sense to me is lacking in the decisions they're making and in the strategy. when i spoke with general dempsey, some of those things we talked about strategywise. i will never pretend to be a military strategist and know exactly what is going on over there, but just some of the comments that we discussed, we wouldn't need a lot of boots on the ground. we could do something with our special forces, to let them do what they're trained well to do. the eyes on the target, so when we're dropping bombs and drones over there, not just taking out another vehicle but it is stopping them in their tracks and making a statement to them, that america will not stand for this anymore. i think that is part of what we have seen from this administration. it has been apology tour constantly to our enemies apologizing and not being
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strong. america is a strong nation. we need to come back with leadership that lets the rest of the world know that we won't tolerate this. we won't put up with it. martha: make a great point about hundreds of thousands of people that had to flee ramadi. city of 400000. so many are dead or refugees at this point. we're not hearing a whole lot about that part of the story. as we head toward memorial day we want to thank you and your family for service given to your country. >> we have almost a million lives given from americans through the ages for freedoms that we enjoy every day. we need to make sure we do remember the sacrifices and take memorial day back to what it was intended to be, a time to remember and honor those who paid that price. that is what we continue to do as america's mighty warriors. we love the military. we do know who pays a price for our freedom. if we can help any of them and families of fallen, please don't hesitate to reach out. martha: debbie lee.
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thank you very much. bill: jon scott is coming up on "happening now." >> good morning, bill. we have breaking news on the huge cache of documents taken in the raid on ubl's compound. apparently usama bin laden was pushing for more attacks on americans and less of building a islamic state. catherine herridge joins us with details. fears of what russia is up to in ukraine. kt mcfarland on that. we take a look at technological advances being pushed by spacex founder elon musk. wild stuff. thanks. bill: see you at top of the hour. in a moment the man who says he killed all usama bin laden in pakistan will be our guest to tell us what he is learning from these documents released through intelligence sources. rob o'neill is on deck next. it should just mean, well, finding new ways to do them. right at home's professional team thoughtfully selects caregivers to provide help with personal care,
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bill: back to breaking news. u.s. intelligence releasing 100 documents recovered from bin laden's home in pakistan. this is going back to 2011. former navy seal rob o'neill credited with taking the kill shot that took out bin laden. he is on the phone now, lafayette, louisiana. rob, good morning to you. i know this was quick work. you have seen a little bit what has been released. based on what you read so far, what is your takeaway? >> hey, bill, good morning. based on what was released today, kind of our government showing difference between what usama bin laden wanted and what isis is doing right now. bin laden was smart, a figurehead. a little more popular than al-baghdadi. they're more of elitist type group. they like spectacular attacks. they wanted to take down the world trade center in '93. they obviously did it in 2001. they want big stuff, cole, embassy in kenyas. what isis wants to do now, they're more populist.
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they like the lone wolf stuff. they like to use social media to have people go out and just start a rash of -- bill: terrorize people too. >> yeah. bill: why would u.s. intelligence put out or choose to put out this specific information, rob? >> they're probably putting it out to keep people a little bit aware. some of that stuff obviously when we took the compound down in 2011, we had intelligence analysts all over it. they're aware of it. they will do stuff behind the scenes where like the fbi homeland security monitoring stuff going on. i think right now we're just possibly because there's so batched news coming out of the middle east, libya, egypt, obviously syria iraq they want to put something out that -- bill: that could be but that news isn't going away, whether or not this is a one-day story or even less than that. i want to read something from afp. this is what they have been reporting. they have seen all the documents rights rob? starting in 2010 and urging deputies to seize the moment of quote, revolution and rally
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muslim youth. as i read that sentence, that shows me would support what isis is doing now. >> well not necessarily because he was never big into the muslim on muslim violence. one of the things that, even aqi run by abu al-zarqawi, they were sunni attacking shia. bin laden want the bigger attacks against israel and united states. he was upset with the civil war that happened with our invasion of iraq. bill: thanks for the quick work on the phone. there is a lot to go through on this and more documents likely in the coming days. rob o'neill, thanks. >> thanks, bill. bill: see you soon in person. martha: we'll have more on the breaking story straight ahead on "happening now."
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usama bin laden, pretty eye opening. >> it reads like you're getting on an airplane. >> what if something happens to you? >> a lot more coming throughout the day. >> have a great day, we will see you back here tomorrow. ♪ >> the newly declassified documents just released from the compound where usama bin laden was cornered and killed shedding more light on what drove the world's most wanted man. welcome to happening now. >> american navy seals sees the documents as they carried out the daring raid of pakistan four years ago. more than one hundred documents showing communication to and from obama bin laden and his family as well. inside the mind

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