do not be a noddy when writing to the factor. no noddies allowed here. thanks for watching us tonight. mission miss megyn up next. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops here. because we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, two new murders in a city racked with historic violence including a 7-year-old child. and now a police department under fire is fighting back. good evening and welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the cops are speaking out in what has become one of the biggest stories in america. the steve baltimore has turned into what residents are calling the wild west. describing people walking down the street with guns openly in their hands. some residents saying they've actually barricaded themselves into their own homes for fear of violence. the murder rate today reached the highest it has been in two decades. and one day after she was confronted by fox news on her leadership the mayor today made

it a point to go to the street where that young child and his mother just became the latest victims, saying "we have a small number of people who are not satisfied unless they are bringing down destruction and violence on our communities, and we have to all stand up against them." of course all of this has unfolded in the weeks since six cops were charged in the death of freddie gray and baltimore was rocked by riots. now arrests are down by more than 50% and the police union today firing back saying, "police are under siege in every quarter. they are more afraid of going to jail for doing their jobs properly than they are of getting shot on duty." and here is the baltimore police commissioner just last night. >> what is happening is that there's a lot of levels of confusion within the police organization. there's people who have pain. there's people who are hurt. people who are frustrated. people who are angry. they also want to know if they said this to me repeating me if i get out of my car and i

make a stop for reasonable suspicion, articulable reasonable suspicion that leads to probable cause, but i make a mistake on it will i be arrested for it? they've asked if they pull up to a scene where another officer has done something that they don't know that may be illegal will they be arrested for it? so i'm not taking sides on this but those are things that they're asking. >> leland vitter is live in washington with more. leland? >> reporter: megyn, people tell me the bad guys especially gang members, are using this time to settle scores like never before. for no other reason than they think they can get away with it. i spent a good deal of time at ground zero for this crime wave in baltimore. people told me it had been days since they saw a police officer even get out of their squad car. the law-abiding folks are scared. when compared to this same time last year arrests are down close to 60% and the crime wave is getting bigger. a problem if everyone agrees on why and how to fix it.

a crisis if they do not. according to the "baltimore sun," in a meeting the police commissioner had with the police union, he said we had a 9-year-old kid shot yesterday by these knuckleheads gangsters, thugs, whatever you want to call them. we have innocent people getting shot on the streets of baltimore baltimore. many rank-and-file officers say mayor stephanie rawlings-blake and her policies are the problem. yesterday we asked her about that. >> mayor, how is the deadliest month -- how is it this is the deadliest month in 15 years and how is that anything other than a failure of your policies? >> well, there are a lot of reasons why, that we're having a surge in violence when there's been other cities that experienced police officers who have been accused or indicted for crimes and there's a lot of distrust and you know the community breakdown.

the result is routinely increased violence. >> is that because the police are doing less? >> so as i said before, there are a lot of reasons why. >> is that one of them? >> we're examining all -- >> arrests are down 50%. >> it was after this she threatened to walk out of her own news conference. today she is quoted as saying "the problem with the police is that they don't trust the police commissioner." in his union meeting he said "i've let you down again too and that i screwed you. i didn't try to screw you. from day one when i walked in officers officers' safety has been job one for me but i got my guys hurt and i got to own that." as we've reported a big reason for the 100-plus officers injured in last month's riots is because they were ordered not to respond, not to wear certain protective gear, and to stand down. they were also ordered to let people loot. our sources say that order came

from the mayor herself, something she's denied. but we were able to get in another question yesterday about her leadership. >> madam mayor, when you talk about reform we were here for the riots. we all witnessed how upset you were and how outraged you were by the death of freddie gray. why is it that it seems you were more outraged by the death of freddie gray than you are angered sxwrup set and leading rallies over the death of 30-plus people who died from homicides this month? >> again, you can choose to be selective about my track record if you'd like and mischaracterize. but it's just not true. i've led -- >> when was the -- you led about the deaths of all these people this month? are you planning one? >> from talking to folks in baltimore it appears the bridge of trust between the mayor and the police hasn't been burned it has been dynamited. we are also now at the start of a very hot summer. kids are getting out of school. and as we have reported the

police are standing back. we've seen that on the streets. megyn, it is unlikely to see how baltimore gets safer with the current formula. >> thank you, leland. turning to me now with more trial attorney and kevin jackson who's the executive director for the black sphere and author of "race pimping." kevin, let me start with you. it is obvious things are breaking down. cops are coming out and saying they don't trust the commissioner. she backs the commissioner. the commissioner's under fire for having the cops call it the hug a thug approach. they think he wants peace and love and understanding and rainbows and unicorns and they say that's not reality on the streets of baltimore. >> well i don't know about him. i think this lies squarely on the shoulders of mayor and mosby because there's supposed to be law and order and they're not. the mayor of baltimore has done two things since she's been in office. one of them is the marriage act. and the other is the dream act. she hasn't done anything proactively in that city that's led -- that's leading to jobs

and the things that sort of quell this type of thing. and it's funny, megyn. every time we talk about this we talk about a surge. baltimore's 370% above the national average for violent crime to begin with. so she should have been addressing the police situation and the crime situation early on. but instead of solving the problem like other municipalities have been doing by setting up zones and increasing cop presence and things like this she's against them. and to put this on the police chief, perhaps there are some issues there. but i think this is squarely on the shoulders of mosby -- of blake. >> what do you make of it andell? because it seems there's a confluence of events here. these are the local authorities that asked the d.o.j. to come in and investigate their cops. these are the local authorities who got out there and spoke very openly about the charges against the cops the local prosecutor against what many attorneys believe, including yours truly, are the ethics rules against doing what she did. and now the cops feel under siege. you heard it in that police

statement from the union. >> well megyn, when we were talking about ferguson a few months ago, you yourself told me that we must trust the process, the processes that we use in america that maintain law and order. the prosecutor has a job to prosecute cases where the evidence leads them. they have a job to be accountable to the community. >> i have never disputed that ab andell. and all i've said in this case is that mishandling herself. and i stand by that right now. >> he whyyes, she is. >> to say she's mishandling herself is a matter of opinion. >> i practiced law for ten years. i have the right to a legal opinion on it. and andell -- >> and i have a different one, as you know. >> i'm not saying the process is out of order. i have not been out there calling for a change of venue or kicking the mayor out. my only focus has been on the d.a. and the public statements she's made and how inappropriate

they have been. but this is a bigger question. this is about whether these are cops who say they show up now to make arrests and 30 to 50 people surround them and as the police union says they are more worried about getting arrested and going to jail than they are about getting shot on the job, andell. >> megyn, the idea that officers cannot do their job effectively and be held accountable at the same time is just flat out wrong. and it's a slap in the face to the millions of officers that operate with integrity and do the right thing every single day in this country. >> go ahead, kevin. >> those officers -- >> i'm sorry. -- are accused of notaccused of breaking the law. >> nobody's even saying that and that's just subterfuge. we all realize there are cops that do bad things. that's not what's happening in baltimore or any of the other major cities in this -- in america. what's happening is liberal policies have essentially put all these people together, taken

away opportunities, put people in charge that don't know what they're doing, that don't stand behind law and order, who are effectively condoning this kind of thing, and then people like you come on and try to fool people into believing something else. the crime rate in baltimore, baltimore's the sixth most dangerous city in the country, and you say they've got a cop problem. they have a crime problem that's been exacerbated by the liberal policies of this mayor and the people that are protecting her. and the cops have every right to be afraid because they know that these people are going to stand behind these leftists that want to see them go to jail as they try to do their jobs. >> go ahead, andell. >> kevin, if hyperbole were in the place of evidence you'd win. but it's not. just saying these policies are from leftist policies does not make it so. i'm not a politician. i'm a lawyer. so i follow the evidence. and the evidence says that those six officers that were charged -- >> did you do that in ferguson?

>> -- there's probable cause for it. the grand jury who is independent of the prosecutor arrived at the same conclusion. >> how do you get there? >> we must trust the process, whether we like it or not. >> go ahead, kevin. >> yeah. they did it with frontier justice. because instead of really looking at the evidence and letting it vet out within hours this this prosecutor in a very biased way -- i'm not a lawyer but i am a free thinking guy. she was biased. and at the end of the day if the evidence comes out and these cops did wrong everybody wants to see justice done. but this justice reminds me of the 1800s and lynch mob mentality. that's why the people in the streets are in danger. >> that is nonsense. stop it. >> well he is going to have to stop it because -- >> you stop it. >> you both have to stop it. bye. thanks for being here both of you guys. appreciate it as always. >> also tonight a former obama administration insider says the islamic state may be on the verge of victory in iraq.

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developing tonight, "the kelly file" taking a closer look at the twitter feed of the baltimore state's attorney marilyn mosby, and the alleged hacking of her account. yesterday we reported that her office denied that she sent out her support for two controversial tweets or messages including one that referred to these police officers who have been charged whom she is prosecuting as thugs and another one that took a shot at white people. today we dug further into the story and trace gallagher has

our reporting tonight. trace? >> megyn, when marilyn mosby's official twitter account was apparently hacked last week her representative was quick to confirm it to the local media. mosby even used her personal twitter account to alert people her office account had been hacked but there was never a mention of her personal account being hacked until reports surfaced that she favored those two controversial tweets one referring to the indicted police officers as thugs, the other saying she infuriates a certain type of white person. the claim is the hackers only changed those two tweets but we found marilyn mosby certainly likes to pick favorites. in fact since the first of the month she has favorited 111 tweets including one that slams fox news and another tweet by the very same woman who said she infuriates white people. and despite the alleged hack mosby's personal account, unlike her official account, was not taken down or suspended and still has the same user name. we also found that marilyn mosby

seldom posts original tweets only four in the last month. instead she mostly retweets what others have already written. she also rarely responds. but she did thank social activist doray mckesen for his sort. "the new york times" says mckesen has built the most formidable american protest movement of the 21st century and has posted messages like quoting "i am interested in the political leaders bold enough to stand up to the organized hate of police unions. where are they?" mosby's office is still trying to sell the public on two separate hack jobs but reaction shows the public is very skeptical about the second. >> joining us with more arthur aydala a new york trial attorney and mark eiglarsh criminal defense attorney and a former prosecutor. you tell me mark, whether this passes the smell test. >> oh i'm one of those skeptical fellas. look i'm a defense lawyer. so i'll say in her defense anything is possible. i'll also say like kim

kardashian could get the republican nomination anything is possible. but let's go to philosophy here. hackers, or maybe just one, at great risk chose a law enforcement officer, which she is and hacked into her account so he or she can hit a thumbs up on a couple of kind of innocuous comments? really? >> right. the damage -- this must have been the laziest hacker ever arthur. he got in there and unlike the guy who actually did hack her professional account, the state's attorney's account, which was in a foreign language, by the way. right? it wasn't even in english. and got in there and started sending out bizarre stuff. it was in turkish. messages like "saltwater for five minutes when he i enjoy all the pain out of a signed eggplant," written in turkish. this guy was much more nefarious, just giving a little thumbs up to two tweets. >> subtle. very subtle. >> megyn, call me old-fashioned.

but a prosecutor has a very different position than every other elected official. i don't really have a problem with the president of the united states having a twitter account and letting his feelings known, but as a prosecutor you're held to a different standard. you're a quasi-judicial elected official. it means you're a little bit of a prosecutor and you're a little bit of a judge because you decide what cases go in front of the grand jury. and i think you lose some of your own first amendment rights to twitter and facebook when you're in the position of judging other people's liberty or taking their liberty away. i think as nicely as i can say, this she's been very immature. your last segment you used the word she's acting inappropriately. i figured how you put it. i figure she's immature. she's 35 years old. she's not ready for prime time. i'm not saying she's not trying the best she can -- >> immature is fine. you always start off immature. most lawyers get their law degrees around 24. you're not necessarily the most mature. but it's been ten years now for her, and she has a very powerful position.

and between the "this is our time" and retweeting somebody that says she infuriates a certain kind of white person if she did that and then on top of that mark we haven't gotten to if she favorited those tweets then she has compounded the problem by lying about it to the national media when she got caught. and that poses a separate problem for ms. mosby if it is true. >> absolutely. but let me just tell you. she can take steps in the right direction to some extent with me by redeeming herself, showing that she can be kind of fair by walking into court on this latest motion if she's being intellectually honest -- >> to change the venue. >> yes. and say we stipulate, we agree, there is no way that you can get a fair and impartial jury here when i hear -- and i'm being ms. mosby now. who i know is watching. so i'll talk to you directly. no she listen ppz her ego's not her amigo. she's definitely paying

attention. >> her ego's not her amigo. >> she knows there are people, a movement now in baltimore to get young men signed up to vote so that they can go into the jury pool -- yes, it's in the motion. >> i know it's true but i've never heard of that happening. >> to get these officers. >> unheard of. that is insane if that actually happens. quickly, arthur. >> even though this venue should be changed, what mark said could happen is not going to happen and i wouldn't be shocked if it's not changed. >> you can do it mosby. you can do it. >> you can do it mosby. we've got to go. great to see you. still ahead, a mother pays a steep price for a decision that parents make. brian kilmeade is here with the unbelievable story. plus a former cia insider says isis may be on the verge of victory. this is someone who worked for president obama. mark teasen on how the white house is handling that news. >> there is no doubt when we've been able to effectively leverage coalition air power in support of iraqi security forces' operations on the ground that that has been a recipe for success.

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developing tonight, phoenix police are on high alert for violence and backlash ahead of a draw muhammad contest that's being held tomorrow. this comes less than a month after two men attacked a similar event in texas and were killed in a shootout with police. the debate over free speech has been a hot topic ever since that happened, and this morning cnn compared the draw muhammad contest that took place to saying the n word. watch. >> you're crazy extremists. they've bought into an ideology that is sick and negative and wrong. that's fact. but what you do was calculated in a way that would be provocative. this isn't about not showing it because we're afraid. it's about whether it is right or not. the n word gets treated the same way that depictions of muhammad does. we don't say it because it's offensive offensive, not because legally i can't. stick with the n word analogy. >> i won't stick with it --

>> because you don't like it. >> it's not an analogy. it's a cartoon. car foon is political opinion. >> it's offensive to a group of people. >> joining me now rich lourie who's the editor of national review and a fox news contributor. we don't say it because it's offensive. his view is she's not allowed to have a draw muhammad contest because in his view he has pronounced that is offensive. >> a couple things here. one, the n word analogy, we don't use the n word because it is toxic, because of its association with a culture of racial oppression. >> most people don't. in the rap culture they use it all the time. >> you'll see it in entertainment. but these ads she wants to run on the d.c. buses they may be offensive -- >> she wants to winning cartoon on d.c. buses, and that's not being allowed. go ahead. >> right. so they may be offensive but they're not gratuitously offensive because she wants to include the line "support free speech." that is a political message and

a political message that should be entirely unobjectionable. >> the question is offensive to whom chris? there is a group that finds this offensive. and there are tens if not hundreds of millions who have no issue with it whatsoever. and as eugene valek said on this show the preeminent first amendment scholar in the nation who specifically called out chris cuomo and said he was dead wrong in his position on this that speech there's no exception for what's considered blasphemous, and religious groups don't get to tell us what's offensive speech and what isn't. >> pam geller, when she tells chris cuomo oh you're enforcing sharia law, it sounds kind of outrageous but in a sense she's right because he is accepting the jihadists' definition of what is offensive and unacceptable and can't be said. and that is just absurd to have extremists setting the parameters of our free expression. and he said we're not doing it because of fear.

that is completely wrong. when the d.c. transit authority today said they're going to ban these ads in effect by banning all political messages on buses they said it's because we're afraid. which is obviously true. >> he came out initially and sent out a tweet in response to her initial event and said hate speed is excluded from protection under the first amendment. don't just say you love the constitution. read it. that tweet is totally wrong. it's wrong in every way it can be wrong. i don't even have the time to explain to you how wrong it is. so he got called out. and he never really admitted how wrong he was. then eugene volek explained it to the world, which is not great to be on the opposite side of eugene. and now he's shifted to but it's morally wrong, it's offensive. and once again he doesn't get the position, which is the reason the speech is so important is because it is in

defiance of somebody trying to impose their ideals on the american people. >> look she's a gadfly and she's a provocateur. but usually the elite culture has sympathy with those sorts of people. if you were a groundbreaking pornographer like larry flynt pushing against obscenity laws hollywood would make a sympathetic biographical movie about her. >> that was an excellent movie. >> well. >> i'll trust your judgment. >> she is right on the basic question here about the importance of free speech. and chris cuomo makes his living on the basis of first amendment. so you'd think he'd have some more sympathy with it. and legally she has been embroiled in lawsuits in philadelphia and in new york having to do with anti-jihad messages on public transit and has won repeatedly. so now you see all these authorities in new york and philadelphia and now washington saying we're going to ban all political messages whatsoever. so we see the slippery slope there. and what is the principal distinction where you're going

to favor commercial speech over political speech? in our society usually it's the opposite. >> she said to him today, it's free speech. it's a cartoon, chris. snap out of it. got to leave it at that. mitch, good to see you. >> thanks megyn. >> still ahead, the dramatic new worry about whether the islamic state is winning this war and what that means for us. wait until you hear what a former obama administration official said. plus students at a catholic university have successfully ditched a tribute to a priest. this is a catholic university. and wait until you see what they wanted to replace it. and then parents start heading for the door when a graduation speech turned to the issue of cops and young black men. brian kilmeade is here on the story behind the speaker. when you're not confident you have complete visibility into your business, it can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. with innovative solutions that connect machines and people... to keep your internet of things in-sync, in real-time.

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verge of victory. we just got new video of two car bombs rocking baghdad now. baghdad. the attacks targeting luxury hotels frequented by westerners. while just 70 miles from iraq's capital isis fighters are reportedly digging in in ramadi. back in washington, d.c. the white house says nothing to see here don't worry. >> there is no doubt that when we have been able to effective ly leverage coalition military air power in support of iraqi military operations on the ground that that has been a recipe for success. >> mark thees zen a fox news contributor, former chief presidential speechwriter for george w. bush. all military conflicts have setbacks as he has put it. few are won instantly right off the bat. but to be told over and over again that this is a success when our lying eyes are showing us city after city that isis is taking it really makes you question the messaging. >> yeah. he's starting to resemble baghdad bob, you know from the

iraq invasion where he keeps saying there's no americans in baghdad. what josh earnest is saying -- when he was challenged on this today in the press briefing room, he actually said are we going to light our hair on fire every time there's a setback against isis? light our hair on fire? they're lighting people on fire in iraq today. they are winning this war. and just -- you're just showing right now, car bombs in baghdad. they're 80 miles outside of baghdad because they've taken ramadi, and that's a base of operations to attack baghdad. we are losing this fight today. >> i think he said that the other day. but i want to correct myself because it was a former cia employee under president bush who said that look it's possible that isis could win here. and the question is mark, whether they are winning because you look at the city after city after city they have taken and it looks like they're just amassing control, they're on the march. >> no they are absolutely winning. look the united nations just reported that there's been a 70% spike in jihadists coming into iraq and other theaters mostly

into iraq. over the last nine months. what's happened over the last nine months. the obama administration's bombing campaign. osama bin laden famously said that when people look at the strong horse and the weak horse they're attracted to the strong horse. who looks like the strong horse in iraq today? they would -- not only have they withstood the best of barack obama's best shot our bombing campaign they are advancing under that. they've taken ramadi. they're right outside baghdad. and john mclaughlin this former career cia official pointed out today and the "washington post" presciently said they can use that as a base to start launching bombings in baghdad. and guess what it's already starting to happen. >> and that is a real nightmare. they cannot lose baghdad. i mean that is just -- you know we've spoken with the bishop of baghdad, and that just can't happen. mark thank you. >> thanks megyn. >> but what are we going to do about it? joining me now with his perspective, former pennsylvania senator rick santorum who just announced he is running for president. senator, good to see you again. so congratulations on your

announcement. let's start there. >> thank you. >> he doesn't seem to want to go in. baghdad now may be in the crosshairs. we can't lose baghdad, can we? >> well of course not. we really shouldn't lose ramadi. but i heard mark talking about a bombing campaign. but most of the information i hear you know we're flying about 14 to 20 sorties a day there, which is very little. and i've heard reports only about 30% are actually dropping any ordnance because of the rules of engagement that we have that we can't harm anybody else any civilian casualties because the white house doesn't want blowback because of any kind of mishap. so we're fighting a politically correct war. we're fighting a public relations war. we're not really fighting to win that war. and when you don't fight to win against someone who wants to win, you're not going to win. we're going to lose. >> so what happens? whoever wins this presidential race who takes over for barack obama, goes in there, if isis's

power has spread and isis really does establish an islamic state in iraq and syria and perhaps beyond what are the choices going to be? >> well the islamic state has established an islamic state. i don't think we can ignore that reality anymore. they have a governing operation. they have revenues coming in because of oil revenues and other things that they're doing. and we -- as long as we allow them to continue to do that they can use their state to call people to jihad. not just to syria, not just to iraq but here in the united states around the world, and call people to take arms against the united states. you've seen their plans. they're talking about acquiring a nuclear weapon from pakistan. they're talking about bringing it into the united states. we can blow that off. but these are people who are crucifying people burning people. these are folks who don't seem to be at all constrained by any norms of conduct that any other

state would have. we'd better take them seriously. >> let me ask you about immigration because the obama administration suffered a defeat this week when their attempt to basically get the president's executive order going forward was denied by the 5th circuit court of appeals. if you do win this nomination and if you win the presidency what would a president santorum do to reverse that executive order if it takes effect again and deal with the 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the country now? >> yeah i've been very clear about this megyn. i'm the son of an immigrant. i believe in immigration. but my dad spent seven years in fascist italy under mussolini because my grandfather couldn't bring him into this country to be a citizen and when he did he brought him over. i always ask my dad, i said were you ever upset with america because he separated you from your dad for seven years? he said no america was worth the wait. so i look at it as someone who said america is worth the wait it's worth doing it the right way and i've always said we need tone force our laws we need to do e-verify we need to e-verify

on all employees in this country, we need to secure our border. isis is talking about bringing a nuclear weapon. they believe they can smuggle it through our southern border. we need to have a much more secure border not just for immigrants who want to come here illegally but for other people who want to do other things that are very dangerous to this country. >> senator rick santorum, look forward to speaking with you more as the campaign trail unfolds. >> thanks megyn. >> all the best to you. also tonight, see what happened when a graduation speech turned to racism. plus, catholic students ditch a tribute to a priest in favor of well we'll tell you. and then why you are not productive at work. we called in the expert on that. brian kilmeade, he's next.

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by all accounts he's very well respected. but i was very shocked to see before he was even done parents had gotten up and had left and decided i don't want any part of this. and afterwards they were quoted as saying "i'm offended this happened at my child's graduation and now it's been overshadowed." so far his stat sus in limbo because they haven't decided what they're going to do in terms of disciplinary action. but immediately the deputy superintendent weighed in and said it's not reflective of the district. we did not get a call back. >> he's busy disciplining people. he can't be -- your reputation preceded you. >> thank you. >> think how mad you'd have to be to get up and walk out of your kid's graduation. >> i agree. >> that's how deeply this issue runs for people. >> think about what's going on in ferguson. think about what's happening nearby. and it's probably consuming a lot of the talk in the hallways and the classroom. you think i don't xharks kid's graduating they've got a party afterwards there's a gown they've got to hand it back on

monday or they get fined. >> we've been covering this at length about the indoctrination. it starts at a young age. you don't even realize it. i remember sitting in law school, in law school i was 20 21 years old, and i remember there was a civil procedure professor who was specifically encouraging that the kids in the class, the young people in the class who she thought were liberals. she'd say i love you because i think you're as liberal as i am i love you over there because -- and like the class is like wouldn't you like to be a liberal too. >> i know. if i get an "a" i'll do it for this top ping but to your point this margarita hill weighed in and said was so happy to hear his remarks, you go for it dr. skretta. there were people happy to hear the principal weigh in. >> he has since weighed in with an apology. >> the way every person does, it on twitter. >> speaking of indoctrination at universities there's a catholic

university in st. louis. >> catholic university is all catholic. >> and the kids there have taken deep offense at what? >> they are taking deep offense at this. take a look at this statue. it is of father pierre jean dement. and he lived from -- >> you took spanish -- >> no you took german. my dad took german. he thought german would be a dominant language in the country. dad, you swung and missed on that one. january 30th, 1801 to 1873. this is a long time ago. this guy's a tremendous individual. he came here from belgium, i don't know if you heard and one of his focuses was helping native americans. he was converting them. and that's what he's doing in that statue. this is a guy that was best friends with sitting bull. the most famous american indian that we know of. >> little cupcakes object because it hurt their feelings because they think it celebrates white supremacy. >> especially ryan mckinley. he argues the status sends a clear message of intolerance to native americans and white superiority as this big priest towers over indians who, i don't know were being converted,

which i didn't think was a bad thing, was a common thingt that time. >> even white people go down on their knees when they're being blessed or saying a prayer. just because you're down on your knees doesn't mean it's a sign of supremacy based on race. >> and white people also if they lose a contact they will go down on knees. that's something i used to do. but i had laser surgery. which i did on camera. it worked out good. i did it on camera. therefore it was free. on the morning show. >> i missed that. >> i'm going to get you a home copy. it's on vhs. >> i want to find out if i should do it. i'm so old i'm about to get reading glasses. >> i was about to say something so relevant. >> was it about white supremacy or colonialism? because here's the real kicker to this story. this is the same group of students that wanted statue gone. successfully. it's gone. they got that removed. that just recently wanted to put up a statue celebrating the protesters in ferguson. >> because they had a six-day vigil there. they said let's do a statue. and it was on the fast track until the donors to the college

said at st. louis university you do that and the money's gone. that suddenly went on hold. >> that's suddenly where principle ended. >> yeah. the donations stop. >> they're feeling all blue and down about themselves and they said hey, who's that pierre jean dement? >> did you take spanish? >> not german. >> you don't know what you're missing. it really helps me walk into a baseball locker room and you speak german. and you want to speak to a shortstop on the mets, any one over the last 25 years. >> it's going to make the cupcakes feel better. that's the bottom line. either you get on board or you get called a bigot. >> might be the name of my new book. more with brian next on how a mother got in deep trouble for a decision that many parents make every day. ♪ (music throughout) ♪ sfx: (smash) sfx: (roar) ♪

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i can see my kid. he's fine. they charge her, but drop the charges. she has to live with the label of child abuser. >> she's not taking it. >> she has to register. registered on new jersey's child abuse central registry because she did this. >> if she wants to work with kids be a teacher, adopt a kid, she can't. for the ten minutes she ran in and out. you do this for a living. where does logic and the law -- >> the year was 1976. my mother went in to vote. she was voting in the presidential election. i was sitting there, 5 years old. i sat and sat the whole time it took her to vote. there i was by myself. she came out, and i said who did you vote for? you know what she said? that's private. >> okay. she left you alone. who did you vote for? i'm surprised you didn't say, shut up and get in the car. >> this woman's appeal was argued and we'll see if they think she has to live with the

title of abuser. there is good news. if you don't feel productive at work it's the law. >> that's it. >> you could be productive. anything less you are unpreductable. unpreductive.

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