jon: we told you earlier in the hour -- jenna: right. jon: -- the spirit airlines attendant who was in trouble for taking that picture, we got this picture from a frequent e-mailer. that's his son. mumbai india they do it all the time. jenna: that's not just the flight attendants. jon: lighten up. [laughter] "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered," i'm andrea tantaros, and here with us today, harris faulkner, fox business' melissa francis, kirsten powers, author of the hit book, "the silencing," and today we welcome back the host of "making money," because we all like to make money -- [laughter] charles payne on fbn one of our best if not the best one lucky guys. >> wow. >> thank you very much. >> and you've got to get the cuff link cam.

>> you've got to get the cuffs. >> these are gorgeous. >> they're not controversial but i really love antique cuff licks. -- cuff links. could you tell carrie grant was one of the guys who inspired me when i was growing up? cary grant, james bond and my father. those three. >> wow. no wonder you're so dapper. >> if i steal them and mount them -- [laughter] >> everything you do is probably co >> that's true. all right, let's get right to it. more pay to play allegations surfacing against hillary clinton. according to the washington examiner, countries and companies that donated to the clinton foundation or paid bill clinton hefty speaking fees saw an uptick in state department activity while hillary served as secretary of state. for example, months after bill delivered a speech in riyadh for a pricey sum of $300,000, state department funding for projects and activities in saudi arabia spiked. meantime there's also a new report that sidney blumenthal, a

longtime confidant and problem fixer for the clintons, was on the clintons' charities payroll while he was providing unsolicited advice on libya to hillary when she was secretary of state. harris, this list of countries that donated to the clinton foundation is pretty long; uae, norway, ireland and bahrain. bahrain specifically the kingdom donated almost $8-$9 million, and then in what appears to be a quid pro quo they got almost $10 million in funding from the state department. >> yeah. you know, the trouble though with all of this is you have to prove that. [laughter] and so it just becomes one of those things that we talk about. but when you look at the total list it's worth talking about. i mean, there is some explaining that has to be done. so also a on the list is that trade treaty that got done with colombia right about the time the clinton foundation benefited from some pretty hefty

donations, and its donor benefited from that treaty, for instance. and then you have the situation with algeria which i think is probably what you're alluding to. $500,000 right about the time we saw an increase in trips and visits and communications between that country and the state department. it was dealing with a lot of human rights violations and probably would have benefited greatly if the state department didn't put them on a certain list. you see where i'm going there. but all you're doing right now is trying to draw lines to dots and connect things, but there are so many potential connections. >> and charles, saudi arabia in particular spends millions of dollars to fund wahhabiism which is an anti-west theory, and they're one of the biggest contributors to the foundation, specifically that example i referenced earlier, $300,000, and all of a sudden bill shows up. >> there are charts out there that specifically show bill's speaking fees and these sort of donations spiking as hillary became, you know, more -- she got the job, and then as things started to happen.

i don't know that we have to prove anything harris. we can connect the dots, you know? listen, we'll never probably be able to prove there was an official quid pro quo but it's up to the voters to decide do you want this sort of a dark cloud over the white house? you actually have a president that you might think could be bought and paid for? >> but we do need the prove it, of course we need to -- >> why do you have to prove it? the voter doesn't have to prove it. >> you can't just make accusations -- >> it's not accusations, we're talking facts. >> we do need to find out what actually happened. i want to also a happen -- >> the fact that it smells bad -- >> let me finish what i'm saying. saudi arabia, who i have criticized plenty is an ally of the united states. it's not as though they're interacting with any country we wouldn't normally be interacting with, and the money that's being given to the foundation is going to good work. >> russia ends up with your rain numb from -- uranium from canada how does that happen?

>> it's building schools, it's -- >> it appears this is a slush fund for friends and family. >> i don't think there is evidence of that. >> but you're or -- okay. so you say we have to -- [inaudible conversations] >> how do we prove all the good works too? [inaudible conversations] >> "the new york times" story today about how it was so shady that someone made a donation to bill clinton for $500,000 but then we find out it built ten schools in indonesia. what's shady about that? >> let's look at the example of norway because everybody's saying you want to see a case where policy changed, norway they were looking to build a big facility there. the diplomats from the u.s. said, no, it's not worth the money. the government gave money to the clinton foundation, and the state department turned around and went ahead and built a new embassy for $177 million, against the wishes of the diplomats that were in that country. they said we don't need it. but after money was given to the clintons the state department went and turned around and built the embassy.

you're looking for a change in policy, that timing works. >> i think that is a good example of something that needs to be looked into. >> there you go. >> having worked for the government, it is not always -- the diplomats get overruled all the time. >> what about blumenthal? >> look what happened in libya. >> you brought up libya, what about sidney blumenthal, a man the obama administration said is nowhere allowed near the state department, here she's bankrolling him through the foundation and getting his intelligence advice. not the direct every of home -- director of homeland security the director of the cia a guy named sidney. >> i think it shows bad judgment. i don't think there's anything -- you said it was unsolicited advice. it was solicited. she trusted sidney blumenthal. this is one of her blind spots, i can't explain it. she has always had him around, and he causes problems, and i think this was a problematic relationship but nothing illegal happened -- >> you just used the phrase "bad

judgment." at the very least you admit bad judgment and at the very least you admit coincidences here -- >> a coincidence isn't any -- >> no, no, a series of coincidences, a series of them means lot to a lot of people when we're trying to dodd if this person -- to decided the person should be in charge of the country. >> you don't judge people on coincidences. >> if there's enough of 'em i do. people have gone to prison for enough -- >> no, they're not. people do not -- >> there are really two different issues because there's the criminality side -- >> yeah, but we'll never be able to prove that. >> we don't know that though. >> no. i'm hoping it'll be investigated, what melissa just brought up. i want them to investigate it. i don't think it would be whole hearted on the obama administration, but do we have to act dumb about this? oh they haven't proven it, but it looks bad. >> i don't know why it's the crazy thing to think we should prove something. you're acting like i think it's

crazy that we would want to look at facts inthe the ed of throwing things against -- >> you know why? because she's running for president of the united states, and she hasn't answered answer thed the questions and she destroyed any type of evidence that would prove any of this. i mean, this is horrible and to the american people we're like we can't write these kind of checks. we can't make donations to the foundation. >> the irony is she didn't destroy all the evidence. she might have done better to delete every e-mail because the blumenthal is part of the batch that came out of the e-mails -- >> there actually is evidence. what melissa brought up, there is evidence. >> this is kind of inñr the same sine so it'll give us an opportunity to continue our thoughts. top aides say they see no permanent damage to the campaign from what we're talking about here. [laughter] the ethics question surrounding her family's foundation. but they are getting a battle plan together to start highlighting the good work that the charity has done just in case. they also say they expect a competitive election and have

started adding more fundraising events and also plan to keep her husband bill away from the campaign events for the next several months to keep the focus on hillary. [laughter] all right melissa -- >> yes? >> part of the issue with bill clinton up until now, and you might even argue this about chelsea, is when the questions have come up about the clinton townation those two have predominantly been the ones to answer. bill has offered up things like i have bills to pay and directly with the foundation i would consider leaving if she were president just to, you know, take away any sort of thought of impropriety. he hasn't really helped. >> no he cuts both ways. when he says someone's got to pay bills and they're making $12 million, $125 million are they a small country that they need to payday to day bills? he comes out and takes a lot of the attention away. i don't know that it's been particularly helpful. i was overhearing a couple arguing about this at a table

recently, and i love that. they started talking about the finances and oh, they're probably dirty anyway, and they brought up monica -- >> monica lewinsky. >> right. and it just kind of all -- i think a lot of emergency meshes' -- average americans' minds it all mushes together. but i don't think it's that different. i don't think it's new. i think people have decided maybe lot of money -- >> but they handle these problems the same way harris. they respond to them the same way. same way they handled monica, the same way they handled paula jones. paula jones probably wouldn't have been such a big deal if he had just apologized, instead they had to pay $700,000, and he lost his law license. this strategy you mentioned they're going to come out and talk about the good works i mean, i can understand trying to answer questions. they're going to throw dust in the area but they're going to get dust on themselves. for the next two weeks we're going to be talking about the

foundation. i don't think it's a spurt strategy. >> one of the biggest issue is the the health initiative. now we know there were some 1100 donors millions of dollars that had not previously been disclose z. there's a lot of meat hanging off the won't here. and as charles has shared, my goodness, do we have to prove it? i think you do if you're going to find criminality but you might even have to if you're going to go forward to convince the voters. one thing is for sure her campaign cannot ignore this. is this good strategy? >> they definitely need to do this they definitely need to be able to respond to these things. but i don't think that this is going to be something that the average voter is necessarily going to be making their decision can on. that's not a judgment of whether they should be or shouldn't be, i'm just telling you how voters generally thick thing and hillary has been in the public eye for so long, and larry sabato at uva talked about this. he said once people have been in the public eye for as long as hillary clinton, people have made up their mind. >> yeah. >> i agree with what you're

saying. >> it will take -- there's almost nothing that can move the needle. >> what about young voters? she's trying to reestablish the obama coalition. i don't see her getting a lot of these voters. >> ed henry has brought us about the battle plan, and one of of the things is it is baked into the cake and they're looking at it from perspective that voters will look at this and say oh, she's being targeted it's just another scandal it's just another thing. >> well here's thing when she says it's going to be competitive, that's code for hey, this is an excuse to raise $2.5 billion even though i want to get money out of politics. with all of these things it's a reverse hypocrisy, and it's ridiculous. i agree a lot of people have made up their mind, but why do you have to raise $2.5 billion if it's not going to move people's opinions? >> she might take questions, so when she does -- [laughter] all right, and now to this story, an arizona mosque the target of a rally in a muhammad

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>> it's friday and you're watching "outnumbered, and we are glad that you are. big concerns now about a rally planned for later today outside a mosque in phoenix. it will feature a draw the prophet muhammad cartoon contest. hundreds of people are expected to come. the organizer a former marine and outspoken anti-islam activist is telling participants to bring their guns. this mosque is the one that elton stimson attended for a time. they are the ones who attacked and opened fire at a rally in texas. tonight's rally is expect today to begin 6:15 local time which would be around the time evening prayers would take place inside that mosque. i'm going to you first kirsten, on this. you've been talking about free speech in this country. the thinking is this is an expression of our free speech. your thoughts. >> it is, but to cast this as

some righteous free speech event, i don't agree with that. and the person who is organizing it, according to the story i read, he was -- wears a shirt that says "f islam." he says what he's trying to do is expose islam, you know, as if these two fanatics who went and shot people are representative of all muslims. i mean, to go outside of an islamic center and treat them like they are the same as these two crazy people, i mean, it's just not righteous. does he have a right to do it? he does, i just think he's misguided, and i think it's hateful to try the portray all muslims as being like these two people. >> well, it's certainly provocative andrea, and he's printing these t-shirts for the event and quote: i think the whole thing, the cartoon contest especially i think it's stupid and ridiculous, he says, but it's what needs to take place in order to expose the true colors of islam. free speech, is that how you see it? >> i see it as an exercise of

free speech. i think it's in poor taste. i don't think making fun of someone's religion is particularly, you know, an act of grace. i just -- i don't like it, i'm not comfortable with it. but as kirsten says, they absolutely have the right to do it. now, the people that come out and shame them and say that this is provocative, to them i say isn't there, i mean, there's nothing more provocative than beheading someone and doing what those two men tried to do. i think radical islamists win the award on that one. but i do think kirsten's right they have the right to do it, but you've sort of got to wonder like at some point is this really helping? >> it's way andrea just put that, free speech but in poor taste. your thoughts. >> no doubt about that. if you warn someone, hey, i'm coming and i'm bringing a gun, maybe they'll bring a gun too. so, you know, this thing -- this is completely different than, in my mind, what pamela geller did which was inside of a building, and it was a contest and this is like we're going to go to your place of worship, and we're

going to try to bait you. and again, it's free speech, but whatever the outcome is this guy -- he won't be clean or innocent if it's ugly and someone gets hurt. >> there was a great headline somebody said i celebrate your right to be an idiot. [laughter] i think that's what this comes down to, i celebrate these folks' right to be an idiot even though i don't support what they have to say but they have a right to do it because according to isis, a shocking number of people have lost their right to be christians with their heads still attached. we let people say what they want, each though you may not agree with it and i would be mortified if my children said it and i wouldn't do it myself but that's the distance. that's what this country is about, i celebrate your right to be an idiot. there you go. >> i do hope we have someone who's infiltrated this mosque and hope we stay vigilant on it as a government because two of these guys came out of there. it's probably a very dangerous place for all americans. >> maybe their thinking is it's like fly paper: it'll bring out

the terrorists -- that's the debate we had on "the five." maybe that's what they're thinking. >> garland, texas is where this happened, and those local authorities were prepared for the free speech event that pamela geller's group was giving that you mentioned. and it's interesting how much we're depending on our local authorities, so we just want to give a shout out to them. >> oh, absolutely. >> thank you. more than likely at 6:15 p.m. this evening in texas local time they'll be working harder than ever. baltimore's murder rate over the past month, the highest in over a decade. some officers are saying they're actually afraid to do their jobs. so is the backlash from the freddie gray case putting handcuffs on our cops? and after insisting there would be no overhaul of its strategy the pentagon now saying it wants to quote fine tune its plan to defeat isis including one thing fighter pilots say is tying their hands hint -- hands when it comes to

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." well, crime is on the rise in baltimore as the number of arrests plummet. shootings and homicides up dramatically since freddie gray died in police custody last month triggering massive unrest. baltimore's seeing its biggest surge in homicides in 15 years but arrests are down more than 50%. the head of baltimore's police union saying officers are now afraid to do their jobs and don't want to end up like the six officers charged in gray's death saying quote: criminals feel empowered now. there's no respect. police are under siege in every quarter, they're more afraid of going to jail for doing their jobs properly than they are of getting shot on duty. earlier this week baltimore mayor stephen rawlings-blake said she and the police commissioner are examining whether the sharp drop in arrests is tied to the city's spike in violent crime.

okay, i want to go to you on this charles. we've seen what's happened stop and frisk, question and frisk is something that's been very controversial here in new york. they've backed off that policy even though it came out of a pretty liberal court. we've seen president obama come out, talk about aggressive policing and how he wishes he could federalize police forces. >> right. >> if you're a police chief or an officer aren't you sitting and thinking rather than lose my job, lose my pension, i may just phone it in seeing what's happened to these cops? >> no doubt about that. i think what's going on in baltimore is a lot different. i grew up in harlem in the 1970s. it was the most dangerous neighborhood in america. and one of the problems is back when the police were dated, they were a-- intimidated, i've seen firsthand when the police pull back it's all anarchy within these neighborhoods. and i started tweeting about this immediately when i saw the riots happening, and i got a lot of pushback. i am not surprised by these numbers, and it's really a scary

thing to be a person living in these neighborhoods, a grandmother a parent knowing that the mayor has probably tied the police hands forced them away from doing their jobs, and now when your kid walks out that door every day he or she might not come home. and i put this squarely on the mayor and all these other people, including president obama, who have come out and really twisted this in such a way that the police cannot do their job. >> i put a lot on the mayor too. she's tried to vilify those of us in journalism for asking her some pretty good questions. all of that aside what i'm learning from the local police officers from reporting there locally and even wider than that is that they're showing up to these crime scenes and being inundated by people who want to cause harm. so it's difficult to do your job in an environment where you feel not only outnumbered but threatened. and with good reason to feel that way. so while on the one hand what you're describing by this mayor and a rather contentious relationship that she seems to have with the idea of police stepping up and doing their

jobs a along with what's happening at these crime scenes makes for a pretty toxic environment for an officer to be able to do his or her job. >> you've broken down the money on this, melissa. >> there's a tremendous cost because when you talk about this lawlessness it's not an environment where people want to stay and do business or live and go out and shop. there's a real economic cost. there was a study that was done in the aftermath of the l.a. riots, and it showed $3.8 billion was lost in just commerce revenue, people living their lives. that was taxable income, you know? the government lost on that as well. and it's going to be the same thing in this situation as well, and this is when you get people leaving if they can, staying home if they can not reopening their business. if there's a hurricane that's a one-time event people rebuild. in this environment they go away. >> kirsten, i mean, i guess it makes me wonder too like what did they expect would happen if you come out and you demonize the police in this way? >> okay. so i have a totally different point of view from you guys. >> shocking.

>> yeah. i don't think the police were demonized. i think something terrible happened here. i mean, what happened to freddie gray was terrible, and i don't think holding people accountable for that -- >> but not the entire department. >> but i don't i don't think -- >> part of the sentiment that -- >> i don't think they were all demonized. what really makes me sad about this, i was reading the story about it yesterday, and i thought the set-up for people involved has been either put up with police abuse, which there is police abuse and it has been well documented in baltimore either put up with it and don't ever criticize the cops or don't have any protection. these are your two choices. there should be something in the middle which is the police can be held accountable for police abuse, and they can also protect, come into these -- >> the individuals -- >> somebody surrounding a police officer is not is not a reason to not police them. >> questionable or even if a police officer is guilty you cannot indict the entire police system. >> the entire police system

hasn't been indicted. >> baltimore, across the country. >> baltimore deserved the the criticism that they're getting -- >> every police officer in baltimore deserves -- >> first of all every police officer hasn't gotten it. but the point is you cannot say i'm afraid i'm going to get arrested as a police officer because some people were held accountable for putting somebody in a van and killing him. >> you talked about evidence and a trial let that go, we don't know what the outcome -- >> we know that he's dead. >> the bottom line that you're missing is cops in america have been under siege for a long time and they have all been indicted -- >> no, they haven't. >> largely by elected officials like the baltimore mayor. >> holding people accountable is not indictment -- >> there is danger involved when you corrupt a crime scene. when these officers get there to respond to some of these calls that's an active crime scene. there is a huge problem with people outnumbering and surrounding -- hey, johnny, get to the spot over there. they're contacting each other on social media to try to get to

some of these areas -- >> because they want to see what the police officers are doing? >> no. i don't think they're there to collect -- >> we have on video somebody who was shot in the back who was running away -- >> cops had been impugned and then eventually we find out in other cities like ferguson that it wasn't justified. >> okay. >> and the baltimore, the baltimore charges -- [inaudible conversations] against the cops are pretty flimsy. i don't know if they're going to be able to get a conviction. >> i would continue with this if you would let me, but you won't. [laughter] the pentagon is fine tuning its mission to train and equip iraqi forces but officials still insist the strategy to beat the terrorists is not changing. a week after iraqi forces pled ramadi despite outnumbering isis . particularly sunni fighters. and a pentagon spokesman says

they're looking to shorten the timeline for coalition aircraft to get permission to bomb isis targets. this comes after fierce criticism from pilots saying opportunities are being lost because it takes so long, sometimes an hour to get clearance. you have to make split second decisions that have life and death consequences, the last thing you need to be thinking about before pulling that trigger is legalities and political correctness. why are we attempting to fight in a war where our pilots' hands are tied behind their back, and they can't do their job? >> i was going to say i feel like you have an opinion. >> exactly. why would we send our men and women overseas to lose their lives -- not just to meddle in iran versus isis and literally tribal battles that have been going on for hundreds of years but when we still have these crippling rules of engagement? if we're going to send our soldiers over there, let's make sure they can fight. they can't. and this is another reason why i do not think we should be

meddling in the middle east like we have been for the last two decades can longer than that, to lose lives in the name of what? for what? why would we take sides? >> but so do you think those people shouldn't even be there, or if they're there, they should be getting the clearance -- >> i personally don't think we should be sending people over, and i also don't think if we don't have a commander in chief who's not committed to the mission, why would we push even further? >> wait, i don't understand. why would we not go fight against people who are beheading christians? lining them up and trying to do away with an entire way of life? if we're not going to fight more this, what are we going to fight for? >> the question that needs to be asked is what is in the best interest of the united states of america, and it's not our role -- >> stamping out evil. >> you would go everywhere? >> i think this is the most heinous -- >> you would go into nigeria with boko haram? answer the question melissa. >> yes. i think -- [inaudible conversations] in my lifetime. not every time, i think in this situation -- >> how do you decide?

>> because -- >> how do you decide which one to go into? >> when they line up a whole bunch of people and chop their heads off and make a really good video -- >> would you send your sons? >> no. >> thank you. i rest my case. >> the irony here though, boko haram is isis. we were reporting earlier in the week they're killing boko haram on the battlefield outside of mosul because reportedly they've gone to train with isis fighters. so now you've got a group islamist state terrorists, i should say, that is so powerful in the sense of recruiting that it's able to change and transform and bring people onboard. it's a different type of an enemy -- >> can i say one thing before we go? can i say one thing andrea? that was an honest answer that i'm ashamed of, that i wouldn't send my sons. >> all right. i will say this that, harris, you kind of -- to a degree i think answered your question, andrea in the sense of why are

we fighting them? >> if they start to control swire countries and they have bases to launch attacks against other western countries and eventually america it might be a smart strategy. i think the original question is why are we taking such a half-assed approach on this? why would we have not allow pilots to the fire missiles and occasionally when we do, we say fire on the right side of the building because that's where the computers are because we don't want you to kill people. we've put men and women and children -- i'm sorry -- we're putting their lives on the line for nothing. >> we love melissa because she's so honest. >> we do. >> you all right? >> i feel silly. >> give her a hug during the commercial. >> we'll hug it out. >> when we come back, she's going to talk all about her harvard degree. [laughter] i love the timing but we're going to roll on now. our harvard degree may not be the golden ticket after all. by the way laughter through tear is the the best kind. [laughter] graduates from less prestigious

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♪ ♪ >> graduating seniors chew on this as you given paying off -- begin paying off mounds of student debt can a new study says just go to college in the bronx, not the ivy league. humble sunni maritime college, which is a public university and trains future ship captains surpasses all eight ivy league schools at catapulting students to financial success according to the brookings institution. students will typically rake in a he hefty $122,000 ten years after they graduate, that is more than grads at blue chip schools that cost a whole lot more like yale and harvard are, my alma mater. uh-oh to. in fact, when you look at the

top five universities that give you the most bang for your future buck, no ivy in sight. so what's in a name? not as much as you think. you know, i'm headed to my harvard reunion, literally when this show ends. now i'm starting to wonder. [laughter] although i do love my job here, and i love andrea despite the tears in the last segment. >> you by far are one of the brightest people i know. >> you're just saying that because i was crying. [laughter] >> no no. i say that about people who don't cry. and i don't just say that because i adore you. but i will say this: that's not the issue. the issue isn't how bright you are coming out of college, the issue is how much fight you have coming out of college. and i would say that when you are able to take those dream vacations during spring break versus working hard while everybody else is on the beach saying one day i'll be able to, that's a different fighting spirit in your heart. >> yeah. >> and i just think that that hunger drives you to do much more. and the gap between what you don't have and what you can get

is so huge, that's a driving force. >> so that's one of the interesting points and charles, i'll ask you. they were really looking at family income, high school grades and your ethnic background. and they were comparing you to similar people. and so what they're really saying is the harvard folks came from more affluent backgrounds, and these people that went to this school really catapulted themselves to making $120, $170,000 a year. it is about the fight right? >> it's also about the fact that the american dream exists. that the notion that no one can make it, somehow society can hold you back it cannot hold you back. it can't. by the way, we have someone running for president of the united states that doesn't even have a college degree, and right now i think he might be the best candidate out there. it's all about the individual who you are as a human being. >> i love, too the costs of the college because so many people are going into really teach debt and coming out, and they're hobbled by that. and this is showing you that you don't have to spend a lot of money necessarily in college if

you study the thing you really want to do. what do you think about that, kirsten? >> i think that's right. when i went to college, i didn't come out with this kind of debt. i don't know how you can do kit especially in a job market where there really aren't that many jobs to start with. you're at such a disadvantage in terms of doing what you really want to be able to do. >> my best friend andrea over there? >> we are friends. [laughter] but you know what? these kids don't get to be a member of the harvard club like you, which is lovely. 44th street down the road. >> it is pretty nice. >> i love this study, i do, because when i talk to interns and they say what do i do, i'm not in an ivy league school, i say, you know what? it doesn't matter. it's what you put into it, it's your effort it's your determination. look, it's incredible. i mean, i couldn't get into harvard, and it's great bragging rights, but i think the message is you don't have to go to one of these i've a i have league schools and put yourself in debt. everything is within reach. >> all right, call it the don draper effect why psychologists

say good looking men are able to get away with bad behavior. that's not news. [laughter] ♪ ♪

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment fist let's go to my friend, jon scott, with what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." jon: more rescues from flood waters in houston texas, got more rain overnight as you look at images from dallas. the death toll and clean-up costs continue to mount and more rain is on the way. rick reichmuth has the forecast. another laser pointer incident at jfk airport, four different airplanes had the blinding light shining into the cockpits. david lee miller live on this disturbing story. and an update on a story we first told you about on "happening now" yesterday, a k-9 hero. the dog fought off attackers who had set an apparent trap for a deputy police officer. he is alive today in part because of that dog. we're going to talk to his boss, coming up on "happening now." >> i can't wait to see that story. jon: it's a great story. >> thank you jon. jon: thanks, harris.

>> well it's being called the don draper effect. you know, that good looking yet manipulative -- is that a word? [laughter] on "mad men," serial cheater borderline alcoholic but continuously gets away with bad behavior and now there's a new study that explains why women are more likely to tolerate someone like him over an unattractive men. it's because experts say people actually warm up to attractive people. >> that is shocking. >> yeah, i know. that first impression deeply influences how a woman sees his future. it's always good when scientists verify what we kind of know. [laughter] >> what is it like to be handsome your whole life, charles? >> i got away with a lot of roguish behavior. [laughter] >> more honesty on the couch today, i love it. i love it. >> i love when science backs up failed relationships. i'm like, guilty. >> all i can say is i hope it keeps going. that's all i'm saying.

[laughter] you know one thing guys, we talk a lot, one of the big buzz words in society these days is fair. nothing's fair. everything we've got to make it fair. but in real life we've always read and we've always known that attractive women and attractive men get by more than others. and it's just unfair maybe, but it's real life. >> and kirsten women -- [laughter] like bad boys, do they not? do you? >> i don't like bad boys. i did when i was younger, but -- >> you grow out of it. >> that's one of the things i want to ask you about harris -- >> andrea. you still like bad boys? your husband's a good boy. >> my husband is. but he's not perfect. and every now and then you kind of see that side, and -- >> you kind of like it. >> it keeps it interesting. yeah. >> it makes us think about what they're going to be like in the future. do women think they can change a bad boy? >> no. >> in their 20s they do.

>> when they're young they do. >> yes. >> my grandmother united statessed to tell me you can -- used to tell me you can change a man in diapers when he's a child -- [laughter] but when he gets older you cannot change a man. >> you can't -- >> you've got to love him for what he is. [inaudible conversations] you've got the magic touch. that you could bring a rogue to his knees. can you bring a rogue to his knees? >> we'll see. [laughter] it's an "outnumbered" special taming a bad boy. >> i love it. [laughter] >> again i mean i'll report back, i'll let you know. >> you can inspire somebody to want to be the best version of themself, but you can't change them. >> i don't know, i do think handsome guys get away with murder. personally i think funny guys get away with a lot. >> you know what? the humor lasts longer than the looks maybe. >> yeah. >> all right guys.

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