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r life. you want it in realtime instantly, this is what you've got to watch. and i hope you'll be there on monday because it all kicks off. this weekend, yet another presidential announcement. hello, everyone. i'm eric bolling along with dana per renoen perino and kimberly guilfoyle and eric gutfeld. we've seen a trend of community leaders only calling for justice when there's a political gain to be had. >> trayvon represents a reckless disregard for our life that we see too long. and we come to tell you tonight
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enough is enough. >> michael brown's blood is crying from the ground. crying for vision crying for justice. >> your peace is sincerely needed as i work to deliver justice on behalf of freddie gray. >> and yesterday, two more senseless homicides, a woman and her 7-year-old gunned down making them the 37th and 38th homicide victims in this month. "if you are a young black man shot in the head by another young black man, almost certainly we will not know your name you are a statistic, not a cause. just another dead black kid in some city somewhere, politically useless to progressives and the media." >> well i think that rich is reflecting he's been a reporter
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for a long time. we've been covering this for years and he's quite an expert when it comes to urban issues and cities. so when he speaks about something like this i think it is with some experience. and also some passion because he's looking at this saying okay where are those protests on behalf of these people? there's not going to be and we all know the reason why. so he's saying truthful words. i think that they might be hurtful to some people. every time i hear that i say well you need to help us. maybe they do need help. at this point, the baltimore police department this might be a time when they do want to reach to the federal government and ask for either some sort of help or a task force. >> you know they make cases out
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of these different tragedies whereas, as rich points out, hundreds of black men are being killed on a weekly or monthly basis. >> i do. and, look when there's a freddie gray being shot what happens every day in places like baltimore and parts of new york and every inner city is inexcusable as well. we have a duty to remember that we are not just here to protest against the man. we're here to protest against the fact that there are millions of children whose lives are put in danger every single day by the circumstances in their communities and we need to -- i don't know what the answers are, quite frankly. but we need to take a hard look and address it and not
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grandstand the way that al sharpton seems to be. >> ugly fact here, when you make fewer requests, we talk about the rioting and looting. that was a lie. we see that now because a lot of these people are victims of gang violence. there never really was a truth about the violence. however, the problem that i see, the bigger problem with this is it's now becoming a political ping-pong games where you have the activist groups on one side and the pro law enforcement on the other side and we are all using bad things to bolster our argument. so when we look at the looters, we say see, i told you so. there are three things that i think ought to be done. there are past sins that have been done against blacks that have contributed to the way society has been for the past 40 to 50 years. we also have to acknowledge
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after that time there's been a decline in values in family structure. and that has affected the community just as bad. and the third thing is admitting that the government policies put in place to address these sins and ills have done nothing to make it better. in fact they have made it worse. the end result is we need to stop playing politics and admit that it's time to let black conservatives in and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. it can't get any worse. >> what are they so afraid of? >> are they afraid of being wrong? >> they are afraid of being wrong, the momentum for their causes because they are able to get out there, their voice for the organizations and they profit off of the loss of life and the destruction in the community. that's the truth. >> you're right. so they can -- these community leaders or african-american
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community he had leaders can get to the podium and make a big push and say, we need to fix this problem when it's a police officer who kills a young black guy. we have a woman and a child shot last night. a woman and a child. does anyone know that? did any of the community leaders get out there and say, this has got to stop? we have to fix this? no? unless it was a cop shooting a woman and a child and the races were a white cop and they were black. >> you're right. this is what enfewerinfuriates me about my side. look there's an epidemic going on in our cities and we can't just show up when we said there is a white cop shooting a black suspect which, by the way, more often than not i think there's reason for people to protest that. you also have to show up when one african-american kills another african-american. you can't just let it go. you can't say, we're only going
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to focus on the right versus black. >> that means that it's a real shame because, to me that's racist. why doesn't it matter when you have one black shooting another black and killing -- loss of life should matter regardless of the color of the skin regardless of who is behind the trigger. care about it and do the right thing. i think it's very morally corrupt to not do so. >> we had the deadliest month in baltimore in the last 15 years or so and a lot of people are trying to figure out why the confusion created by the community leaders is dangerous and deadly. listen to anthony batts. >> there's a lot of levels of confusion within the police organization. they have said this to me. if i get out of the car and i'm
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stopped for reasonable suspicion, it's probable cause. if i make a mistake on t. will i be arrested for it? >> i can't imagine having to be on the front lines with bad guys and not knowing that my decisions will be supported or if i'll be arrested for them. that decision is causing a dramatic drop in arrest numbers. in baltimore, the numbers are down year over year 58%. >> imagine when you did "the five" and if one of your opinions was off, you could be prosecuted or demonized or go to jail. that's how it is for cops. they are in a profession that if you do the job incorrectly, there's no backup. if you make a mistake as a plumber, you fix it. if you make a mistake as a cop, you are more infamous as jesse
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james. maybe you deserve it but you don't smear an entire profession based on isolated incidents. we don't do that with radical islam. why do we do that to the police? >> it's terrible. you don't do that to firemen, do you? >> from one website, baltimore gets bloodier as arrests stop. shooting of children are up 500%. kids are afraid to walk to school. >> the community is under siege and this is what happens when you demonize a nation wearing blue and that's the problem. they are more reluctant to get involved or to pursue or attract the leads down to do this stuff because they are worried about getting arrested or prosecuted more than they are about getting
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shot. thousands and thousands of years to make it better, they wake up in the morning and they are all of a sudden the bad guy. >> i think we have a variety of those events on the right and left. i will say this. >> right. >> there are bad people who need to be prosecuted. look i think what happened to eric garner here in new york was not excusable. people disagree with that but they need to be prosecuted. they are not. >> you can't blame an entire nypd for what happened to eric garner or freddie gray but based on the evidence so far, should be looked at. >> something to watch tomorrow. the former mayor of baltimore and former governor of maryland martin o'malley is going to announce plans to run for president. it will be interesting to see if he includes any sort of
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solutions or thoughts on the fact that his city is in this much trouble. >> people are planning on protesting and saying in fact he had direct hands in a link to what happened and the violence and eruption of it ialtimore and the police department because of his politics and ideology with respect to policing. wait for that. they will be protesting and trying to tie into it. >> all right. we'll leave it there. the five commanders let free in exchange for bowe bergdahl may be able to go back to their country.
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we took them off the
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battlefield and traded them for an accused deserter. on monday the taliban leaders are free again when their one-year expires in qatar. >> monday morning, they are going to rejoin isis. they have been caught communicating with the taliban. this is one of the biggest mistakes president obama has made in releasing those five because there are men, women, somebody's child is going to have to get back in that fight and go engage with them again. >> but the white house doesn't seem worried about them returning to battle. >> we have a really with qatar. we transferred a number of detainees with some security restrictions in place to ensure -- and this is something that the secretary of defense asserted to that these individuals did not pose an undue threat. >> but are you appealing to the government that they stay longer? >> we are in touch with the
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qataris to do whatever is necessary to protect the american people. >> this is a troubling issue to many americans, and it should be dana. this is of real concern. they are going to be back in business through some bizarre program between the united states and the administration. >> they will be supported also by their fellow taliban and it's likely they will rejoin the fight. i think they know that. one thing we probably won't ever know about until there is some movie made about it in the years ahead, we knew that this was coming. the federal government knew it was coming and even though our intel services are not the most row best they have been in that region i would imagine that there will be surveillance of these guys. it's coinciding with a possible lapse in our intelligence gathering because there's a congressional fight over the nsa program and what chaffetz and josh earnest were saying is we know that they have been communicating by phone and
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e-mail with people overseas whether that be in the united states or not, that is something that we have to be really mindful of. it happened at a really bad time. >> the timing is conspicuous and it does kind of highlight the fact that those people are very strong about the nsa and overreach by the government counterbalance on the other side with the idea of liberty and freedom and privacy rights. eric you're on the other side of the issue. >> i don't see what one has to do with the other. of course every taliban phone call who calls someone who ends up calling the taliban, the nsa issue is far bigger picture, far more wide sweeping than people who have any contact. >> how so? >> the nsa issues that you can't hope to find the needle in the haystack. >> we can rehash this if you
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want. i'm fine with it. are we saying that the taliban -- we're not going to track the phone calls? >> your in favor of profiling, basically? that's the only option that you have. if you don't data minor dot bulk collection the only collection that you have is just profile. i want rand paul to say i'm pro profiling. >> i'll speak for myself. yes, profile. >> okay. >> go to court and say, i want to go after this person this group of five or this group of 500 and name them no problem. but i want to go after 310 million americans -- >> you have to be able to identify them with specificity and you have to have information to be able to do so. >> no, you don't. >> how do you know which one? >> no you don't. k.c. unfortunately, you don't
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need to name them. >> the point is you have to have some kind of -- >> who? that's the point. if you identify them -- when you identify them, you can profile -- >> how do you identify them without the information? >> you profile before you identify. >> we're okay at this table with gathering the data of 310 million americans who may have nothing to do with terrorism whatsoever but it's okay we're going to collect data. >> i'm don't agree with that. i'm talking about having a wider investigation so you don't let people -- >> here's what i'm saying you have to be able to conduct an investigation. >> of course. >> part of a thorough investigation as opposed to saying let's listen to all of the muslim phone calls. you have to cast a wider, broader net.
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>> i never disagreed with a broader, wider net as long as you identify -- how do you identify? that's all i'm asking. very simple question how do you identify? >> profile. >> right. say you profile. >> i did say it. profile away. don't make the full extent the whole population of america your profile. >> or the entire muslim population. >> or an alleged -- >> how do you find the information to be able to do that? >> right now, all of our information may be mined. it's not like they are going through it with a fine-tooth comb. i assume there are metrics to be used. >> so for example, the guy this week busted in texas, arrested with trying to provide material support to isis american guy, american name american sounding name no one that you wouldn't have necessarily said i'm going to put him on my profile list. but let's say one of these five
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taliban people called somebody overseas but then they said -- it's not like you would even know who it is. that number matches. why does that number match? that's why we've got to go and try to check it out. that's when you go to the court and say, we've got a ping on these two numbers. are we allowed -- judge, can we go forward and check this out and then the judge says no. >> it's always going to be "yes". >> if i have a ping from a terrorist calling to america, yes. >> how do you -- the law and the argument is that you don't have to define the people that you want to profile. >> information acquisition. how do you develop the probable cause to say this person is -- >> probable cause. you nailed it k.g. go for it. >> how do you get the probable cause? you have to do an investigation. you have to be able to go out
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there. >> but probable cause for the full extent of the population. >> it's a search and seizure issue. just because of the fact that somebody has drugs on them doesn't mean we all have to be patted down. >> that's very irresponsible, julie. we're not talking about a drug deal. >> we're talking about a ping of a phone call. >> data collection. we're not getting in your phones. if there are abuses in the process, address the abuses but don't throw the baby out with the bath water unless you're okay with profiling. >> i am. >> but in the long run, profiling will not work as terrorists change. they will no longer look like the terrorist that you think they do. >> i don't want to profile people based on their ethnicity or religion but based on whatever they come up with the metrics. >> how do they get the metrics? >> the metrics would evolve. >> that's the nsa program. >> no. no. all of our data -- let me put it to you this way.
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all of our data collection i shouldn't have my phone calls gone through. >> they are not going through your phone calls. >> then why do they have them? >> it's the haystack so they can find it when they are looking for something. don't worry, they are not after you. >> get a call to one of these guys and it's going to ping and they are going to take a closer look at her. >> exactly. >> i agree with eric. >> oh my god. we're going to give dana an aneurism here. >> because you guys don't ever answer -- you go round and round and avoid the central question how do you find the people that you are trying to profile? >> metrics. >> what metrics? >> the only thing left that you have is data collection because profiling will never be -- >> and if something happens, i guarantee you the attack on civil liberties from the federal government if there's another attack will be worse than anything you ever imagined. >> well i still have to say this.
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how do you find anything -- you think the drug analogies are not -- it's a crime. that's the problem. how do you find anything without defending your civil liberties. >> open the border who cares. >> no one said that. still to come on "the five." >> i don't know what you're talking about there. still to come on "the five," facebook friday. maybe that will go better. first, clinton cash allegations. thank god for the clintons. stay tuned. ♪ just because your bladder is changing doesn't mean you have to. with tena's unique super-absorbent micro-beads that lock in moisture and odor... you can keep being the one with a new story. tena - lets you be you. well, a mortgage shouldn't be a problem your credit is in pretty good shape. >>pretty good? i know i have a 798 fico score thanks to the tools and help on experian.com.
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bill and hillary clinton have a new cash controversy. >> because we are going to have to stand up to the people who want to keep the decks stacked in favor of those at the top. we're going to have to fight to make sure that the success of our country is shared across the
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economy. you know the statistics. something is wrong when top ceos earn 300 times more than the typical american worker. or here's my latest least favorite statistic. the 25 biggest hedge fund managers earns more than all the kindergartner teachers combined. >> greg i see that you are smirking back at me. >> 38 cents is a lot. >> not to the clintons, it's not. >> my attitude about it is this. i don't begrudge rich people running for office. god knows that fdr and jfk came from wealthy families. but my issue is with politicians who exploit their wealth and try to not have policies not because
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of the rich but policy what would that be. >> many policies don't last. >> to help the rich? are you out of your mind? >> health care. >> let me say this, i don't think there's a conflation between somebody's personal wealth unless they are pursing policies that help them make a lot of money. >> are you looking at me? >> i am looking at you. >> this is what makes the left the left. hypocrisy is okay in the good of the greater good. there is wealth as long as you don't have it. if you're a republican and rich that's evil. if you're a democrat and rich that's great. the standards that liberals hold for bill clinton on sex are
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identical to what they hold with hillary on greed and -- they are lower than the worm -- what is that? >> she's trying to turn wall street into the occupy white house. >> okay. greg? >> i wasn't listening. >> when he was at -- in private equity one of the things they would do is go in and fix the company and that resulted in layoffs. whereas the clintons who amass an amazing amount of wealth from foreign governments who want to influence top world leaders, including hillary clinton when she was at the state department or improving mine for the russians on uranium, that's okay because it's for the greater good. here's an example. carly fiorina gives 100% of the money she raises for her charities to the charity. what were the clintons?
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13% on the dollar. there's no democrat that could be upset by the hypocrisy of the clintons. we're going to have to accept that. >> it's a joke. it's beating on the hedge fund guys. because she's taking all of the money. >> that's a good point. >> she's very friendly to wall street especially when she ran for senate, she was taking a lot of -- so was the clinton foundation i about the way. you can go to the clinton foundation and scroll through their donors. it's riddled by donors. >> assuming that she's going to stick to that. >> she's basically champ generaling the middle class. she's taking shots at people who make a lot more money. >> we've got to leave it at that. stay tuned. facebook friday is next.
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all right. it's time now for one of our favorite segments on "the five." facebook friday. we answer your questions. i haven't even cheated. this is my favorite. >> usually you look. >> it says please start here. i have instructions. to greg from becky d. if you could have any guest on your new show who would it be? >> she didn't say living or dead so i would say lee marvin but he's dead. so i have to pick somebody who is alive. >> if you're really good you could bring him back to life. >> betty white? >> president obama. i've been putting my calls in. he hasn't returned a single call yet. we're going to meet for lunch first, feel each other out. >> talking points every day. i'll mention it to him. >> thank you. >> kimberly this is from fred k. do you have any advice for a
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minority criminal justice major who just graduated? >> follow my lead. >> read your book. >> here's what i would say they should do. get involved with some of the groups like i was with a legal association. there's a lot of mentoring groups that help people get connected with enturninternships and things like that. that's important because you want to be able to have an experience going forward. >> la raza? >> yeah. that's what the legal -- >> aren't they hardcore left wing? >> there are also different law groups that actually help minorities in law school to get ahead. >> all right. >> i'm with you. >> and then there's a latin spice group. >> to julie from william b. what is your favorite vacation destination? >> i went to istanbul a while ago and i loved it. i thought it was fantastic. >> pricey. >> well it was pricey.
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it was price tea getting there. i thought it was amazing. the tourists are a little -- >> did you go as a reporter? >> i did not. >> that makes sense. >> why would you bring that up? >> karen s. i like this question for you eric, "i have two young boys. what would be your most important tip on raising boys?" >> wow. >> that's a good question for you. >> it depends on how old you are. i think you have to be tough love. i try this. in fact my son just texted me in the break and said dad, curfew is at 12:00, there's a big party tonight. his friend is having a pool party. i said can i stay until 12:30? i said absolutely. don't do anything that will get you in trouble. you have to stay tough on them. >> where is this party? >> new jersey. >> you know what is terrible
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the parents had no idea about that party. >> that's a good thing. keep the parents apprised. tough love is the hardest thing to do but you have to do it. >> laura s. asked me, "dana has mentioned foods that she doesn't let herself eat." >> okay. a couple things like bagels buttered popcorn, hot tamales. things like that glu. >> you don't eat that stuff? that's very strange. >> to greg from james c. will you be holding a private screening of entourage? >> yes, i will. i will meet you at the port authority bus station saturday at 7:00 a.m. >> and will you save a seat next to dobbs? >> yes, dobbs will be there.
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>> kimberly this is from paul. what was your favorite city or state to live in and if you could live anywhere, where would it be? >> it was probably san francisco but now i'm -- it's a close tie with new york. >> is that when you were with la raza? >> kimberly, as soon as you said la raza i thought, she will never hear the end of it. >> back in the day, they were very good in law school. hate to be honest around here. >> who is your favorite gop candidate and why? >> dana perino if she ran but i don't think she's running. i like rubio but i wouldn't vote for him. >> eric from monica if you were offered a guest role on "house of cards," would you take it if they had you playing a left liberal? >> i could pull that off.
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president underwood, we have to do something about these republicans. i'm tired of them. it's all cutting taxes. they never think about the little people. >> oh oh. >> excellent. >> i'm going to skip one and ask this for greg do you have a ritual before the show? >> well i have two rituals but one i can't talk about. >> that's what i was hoping for. >> kids. >> i'll be -- >> i'll be seeing you. >> i have a cracker and some water and then i do -- >> are you in prison? >> i do a ritual dance. >> ten jumping jacks? >> yes. ahead, greg is going to talk about his new show. he did a push-up challenge on the "today" show. did you make it off the ground? stay tuned.
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now, i'm sure there's other stuff on tva the same time, maybe "the good wife." we always know how that show ends. she drinks a glass of scotch. beautiful, now, my new show i have no idea how it's going to go. it could be like a sloppy joe or a sloppy greg. if you like "the five," i'll be doing the same thing without any mention of royalty or soccer or jasper. in fact you won't see royalty, soccer jasper. well maybe jasper. there will be a few guests. i promise very little because it's more fun to overdeliver. my goal is not to have a panic
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attack. in conclusion give it a shot. it won't change the world but maybe you won't change the channel. >> all of those clips with you earlier in the show have you see kung fiery yet in. >> no. >> you'll love it. by the way congratulations, good luck. >> thank you. >> i want to talk about your show. >> okay. >> you've given me some previews. i can't wait to watch it. i was obsessed with it. >> there's some weird things in the show. >> i told her about it in the green room. >> for people who want to know more about your show i
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interviewed you. i think that's a good place to go. >> it is a great place. >> that will help. >> that will help. >> that provides some substance. >> kimberly any suggestion or help? >> we don't have proof from our sponsor about what to help you eat or drink but, yeah i think people should tune in and i'm kind of interested to see what it's going to offer. >> very good. all right. we've got to go. "one more thing" is up next.
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all right. it's time for "one more thing" and greg is up first. >> hi everybody. i'm on my new set. i'm going to stay here until sunday. when my show is on. kathie lee and hoda challenged me to do something. >> here we go. >> one, two, three, four five six, seven, eight, nine ten. >> great, baby. >> who you calling out? >> gee whiz, dana perino. >> who else? >> i have to call in another person? >> three people. >> i don't have three friends. >> kimberly guilfoyle and let's
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see who else. bill o'reilly. >> who? >> bill o'reilly. he's not going to do it. anyway that was interesting. back to you guys. watch me sunday. >> all right, kimberly you don't want to do your pushhp-ups now, do you? >> well i could. i pledge allegiance to the flag. take a look at this. it's fantastic. chris pratt aired a video showing his 2-year-old son the pledge of eye allegiance. maybe we should all do this. >> isn't that nice? a reminder of what the flag stands for in this great country. go home and teach your kids the pledge of allegiance. >> i think it was last week i brought this to you, westfield
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high school they did an art project on police brutality and throwing the cops under the bus. i thought it was awful. the good news is check out bronswick high school in bronswick, ohio. watch. >> with everything going on and everybody going crazy because all of the shootings, we're sayings, don't believe in it. don't believe that this is the only thing going on in the world. >> and so watch there, they continue to -- this young man organized a day locking arms with the cops and that's the -- remember this is brunswick, ohio which is near cleveland where a lot of issues have been going on with cleveland and the police department. more brunswick, ohio less of westfield, new jersey. jewel julie, you're up.
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>> nunatak. >> correct. >> it was. the winning words were scherneschnitte and the second one was nunatak which was an exposed rocky element or a glacier. >> what is the tiebreaker? >> i agree. >> in soccer they have those -- what do they call it? >> yeah. they should have kept them there for three days until somebody won. >> how about a speed test? >> the thing is that girl that girl vanya shivashankar her sister won three years ago. their parents are obviously doing something very right.
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>> shivashankar. >> a tiger mom is involved in there somewhere. >> dana, you're up. >> you don't have to go to an ivy league school in order to be rich. get this you should go to a college in the bronx. that's what the study said. manhattan college, home of the jaspers, i would add, they surpass all eight ivy league schools. after ten years, you take $120 compared to $100,000. and more than all four institutions combined. the logo of your school is not as important as the quality of your education. >> that's fascinating. >> moms and dads need to know this. you can go to brookings institution or our facebook page. >> also save money. don't go to journalism graduate
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school. >> no you don't need that. just start writing. >> dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." greg gutfeld's show is sunday night at 10:00 p.m. everybody. the obama recovery goes backwards. the economy contracts in the first three months of the year. so now what? this is "special report." good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. as the headlines scream of one foreign policy challenge after another, president obama is heading into the weekend with another domestic problem on his hands. the economy is going backwards. the gross domestic product, the gdp, fell from january through march, its worst performance in a year. correspondent kevin corke has reaction from the white house. >> reporter: it's no big deal. that's

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