ridiculous. >> i guess i understand why they drink so much after that. >> that's it for us. i'll see you back here at the fox report and you'll be back. >> i'll be here in one hour from now at 6 p.m. >> we'll see you at 7. we've seen a trend. these so-called community leaders only call for justice when there is a political game to be had. >> trayvon represents a wreckless disregard for our lives that we seek and we come to tell you tonight enough is

enough. >> michael brown's blood is crying from the ground, crying for vengeance crying for justice! >> your peace is sincerely needed as i work to deliver justice on behalf of freddy gray. >> disgraceful of the yesterday two more senseless homicides in baltimore. a woman and her 7-year-old son gunned down, making them the 37th and 38th homicide victims in the city this month. rich lowery writing in politico says quote if you're a young black man shot in the head by another black man almost certainly no one will know your name you're a statistic, not a cause. just another dead black kid from city somewhere. politically, useless to progressives and the media. harsh criticism by lowery, but i kind of agree with him. do you agree withally him? >> i think what rich is reflecting something he's been a reporter and editor of national review for a long time.

we've beenting covering this forfo years and he also is quite an expert when it comes to urban development and urban issues in cities. so when he speaks about something like this, i thinke it's with some experience and s also some passion because he's looking at this saying, okay, where are the protests on behalf of these people? there is not going to be. we all know the reason why. so he's saying truthful words.ay i thinkin they might be hurtful to some people. they hear that and think we deserve more. you need to help us and maybe they do need help. one of the things i was thinking is at this point the baltimore police department, this might bepo a time when they want to reach to the federal government and ask for either some sort of help whether it be more advisors or a task for or someone to help them get a handle. >> do you want to call out so-called community leaders who use times like this when it's politically expedient for them to and make cases out of these different tragedy whereas as

rich points out literally hundreds of black men are being killed on a weekly or monthly basis and no one is talking about it. >> i do. i said it earlier in the week and i want to reiterate it again. look, you have people -- thereok sure been a protest -- what happens every day in places like baltimore, chicago parts of new york and every inner city issa inexcusable. we have a duty to remember we're not just here to prehe can test against the man. alsotest protest against the fact that there are millions of children whose lives are put in danger every single day by the circumstances in their communities and we need to -- i don't know what the answers are. we need to not just invest in those communities but look at the fact that these people are in danger and address it and not just grand stand the way al sharpton tends to do.

>> ugly fact here is when you make fewer arrests there tends tore more crime. and those who suffer are not writers or slate or media matters. they're actually minorities in those communities. we talked about a truce between gangs during the rioting and the looting. thats with a lie and we see that now because a lot of these people are victims of gangth violence. so there never really was a truth about the violence. however, the problem that i see t the bigger problem with this is in is now becoming another one of those political ping-pong games where you have the activist groups on one side and the pro law enforcement on the other side and we're all using bad things to bolster ouro arguments. so when we look at the looters we say see see see. they see somebody shot, they go, i told you so. there are three things i think that need to be done. one, we have to acknowledge that there are past sins that havet been done against blacks that have contributed to the way society has been for the past 40 to 50 years. we also have to acknowledge

there has been a decline in values, in family structure. that has affected the community just as bad. the third thing is admitting that the government policies that were put in place to address these sins and these ills have done nothing to make it better. in fact, they have done to make it worse. the end result is you really need -- we need to stop playing politics and admit that the body of politics has always been one sided in the cities. it's time for the left to listen to the right. to let black conservatives in and listen to them. if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. but it can't get any worse. >> what are they so afraid of? a >> right. are they afraid of being s wrong? >> they're afraid of being wrong and afraid of losing the momentum and money for their causes because it has become very politically rich for them to be able to do this. they're able to get out there their voice for their organizations and they profit off of the loss of life and the destruction in communities. >> you'reon i right. so they>> y can -- these community leaders or african-american community leaders can make a big

thing. they can make a big push saying, we need to fix this problem when it's a police officer who kills a young black man. we have ae woman and a child shot last night. a woman and a child. did anyone know that? did any of the community leaders get out there and say this has got to stop, we have to fix this? no. unless it was a cop shooting them andno the races were a white cop and black woman and child i guarantee we'd see every one of themmen tonight. >> you're absolutely right. this infuriates me about my side and i feel like more people should be saying this who are liberal as i am, look, there is an epidemic going on in our cities and we can't just show up when there is a white cop shooting a black suspect, which by the way more often than not is reason for people to protest that. but you alsonk have to show up when one african-american kills another african-american. you can't just let it go. you can't just say well, we'reca only going to focus on the white versus black.

>> that's the only narrative they're interested in advancing and focusingus on, which is a real shame because to me, that'so racist. why doesn't it matter when you have one black shooting another black and killing -- loss of life should matter, regardless of the color of the skin, regardless of who is behind the trigger. they care about it and dosk thein right thing. i think that's very morally corrupt to not do so. >> so we have a deadliest month in baltimore last probably 15 years or so. up with of the deadliest in their history. a lot of people are trying to figure out why. but we've been talking about this at the table. when you point fingers at law enforcement, you would expect something like this was going to happen of the the confusion created by the community leaders is dangerous and deadly. listen to baltimore police commissioner expressing the concerns his officers have when engaging a suspect even if it's just a traffic stop. >> there is a level of confusion within the police organization. they've said this to me so repeating them, when i get out of my car and i have reasonable

suspicion, but i make a mistake will i be arrested for it? >> i can't imagine having to be on the front lines with the bad't guys and not knowing if my decision will be supported or if i'm going to be arrested for them. thatat confusion is result not guilty a dramatic drop in arrests and greg pointed that out. here are the numbers in baltimore. arrests are down year over year n 58%. >> wow. >> imagine when you y did "the five" and one of your opinions was off, you could be prosecuted or demonized or go to jail. that's how it is for cops. h they're in a profession that if you do the job incorrectly or perceived incorrectly, it's overf for you because there isn't any support or back up. if you make a mistakes as a plumber, you fix it and everything goes on our get sued. but if you make a mistake as a cop, you're more infamous than jesse james. everything is over. maybe you deserve it when you

make that mistake. but on the whole you don't smear an entire department, an entire profession based on isolated incidents. we don'tn do that with radical islam. why do with he do that to police? >> it's terrible. you don't doois that to firemen, do you? >> i'm reading a couple headlines. murder rate jumps 15% in new york city. a shootings involve children, 500%. kids afraid to walk to school. what do we expect? >> the community under siege and this is what happens when you demonize a nation wearing blue. that's the problem because they are -- they're more reluctant to get involved or pursue or track the leads down to do this type of thing because they're worried about getting arrested now or getting prosecuted more than they're even worried aboutge getting shot. that's how crazy this has become. and they've been putting it onare the line for thousands and thousands and thousands of years in communities to try and make

it better and now it's like when they wake up in the morning they're all of a sudden the bad guy. how did thatwake happen? >> how did we get here? >> i think we got here through a variety of accomplishments bad events on both the right and left. i willf say this, kimberly, you made this point. you shouldn't demonize an entire department because of a few bad people of the there are a few bad people that need to be prosecuted. eric gardner was inexcusable. those people need to have been prosecuted. you can't demonize -- >> there was a finding on that. >> there was. but you can't demonize an entire nypd based on what happened to him. you can't demonize a police department inmore. >> something to watch tomorrow, the former mayor of baltimore and former governor of maryland is going to announce he plans to run for president. it will be interesting to see if he includesng any sort of solutions or thoughts on the

fact that his city is in this much trouble. >> people are planning on protesting and saying he had direct hands in a link to what happened and the violence and eruption of it in baltimore and the police department because of his politics and ideology with respect to his policing. so wait for that. they will be res protesting and trying to tie him into it. >> next, the five taliban commanders in exchange for beau bergdahl could be free to return to the battlefield in days. will the white house do something to stop their release? and it's facebook friday. post your questions for us now. we're going to try and answer a bunch of them ahead

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battlefield and traded them for an accused deserter. on monday the taliban leaders are free again when their one-year expires in qatar. >> monday morning, they are going to rejoin isis. they have been caught communicating with the taliban. this is one of the biggest mistakes president obama has made in releasing those five because there are men, women, somebody's child is going to have to get back in that fight and go engage with them again. >> but the white house doesn't seem worried about them returning to battle. >> we have a really with qatar. we transferred a number of detainees with some security restrictions in place to ensure -- and this is something that the secretary of defense asserted to that these individuals did not pose an undue threat. >> but are you appealing to the government that they stay longer? >> we are in touch with the

qataris to do whatever is necessary to protect the american people. >> this is a troubling issue to many americans, and it should be dana. this is of real concern. they are going to be back in business through some bizarre program between the united states and the administration. >> they will be supported also by their fellow taliban and it's likely they will rejoin the fight. i think they know that. one thing we probably won't ever know about until there is some movie made about it in the years ahead, we knew that this was coming. the federal government knew it was coming and even though our intel services are not the most row best they have been in that region i would imagine that there will be surveillance of these guys. it's coinciding with a possible lapse in our intelligence gathering because there's a congressional fight over the nsa program and what chaffetz and josh earnest were saying is we know that they have been

communicating by phone and e-mail with people overseas whether that be in the united states or not, that is something that we have to be really mindful of. it happened at a really bad time. >> the timing is conspicuous and it does kind of highlight the fact that those people are very strong about the nsa and overreach by the government counterbalance on the other side with the idea of liberty and freedom and privacy rights. eric you're on the other side of the issue. >> i don't see what one has to do with the other. of course every taliban phone call who calls someone who ends up calling the taliban, the nsa issue is far bigger picture, far more wide sweeping than people who have any contact. >> how so? >> the nsa issues that you can't hope to find the needle in the haystack. >> we can rehash this if you

want. i'm fine with it. are we saying that the taliban -- we're not going to track the phone calls? >> your in favor of profiling, basically? that's the only option that you have. if you don't data minor dot bulk collection the only collection that you have is just profile. i want rand paul to say i'm pro profiling. >> i'll speak for myself. yes, profile. >> okay. >> go to court and say, i want to go after this person this group of five or this group of 500 and name them no problem. but i want to go after 310 million americans -- >> you have to be able to identify them with specificity and you have to have information to be able to do so. >> no, you don't. >> how do you know which one? >> no you don't. k.c. unfortunately, you don't

need to name them. >> the point is you have to have some kind of -- >> who? that's the point. if you identify them -- when you identify them, you can profile -- >> how do you identify them without the information? >> you profile before you identify. >> we're okay at this table with gathering the data of 310 million americans who may have nothing to do with terrorism whatsoever but it's okay we're going to collect data. >> i'm don't agree with that. i'm talking about having a wider investigation so you don't let people -- >> here's what i'm saying you have to be able to conduct an investigation. >> of course. >> part of a thorough investigation as opposed to saying let's listen to all of the muslim phone calls. you have to cast a wider,

broader net. >> i never disagreed with a broader, wider net as long as you identify -- how do you identify? that's all i'm asking. very simple question how do you identify? >> profile. >> right. say you profile. >> i did say it. profile away. don't make the full extent the whole population of america your profile. >> or the entire muslim population. >> or an alleged -- >> how do you find the information to be able to do that? >> right now, all of our information may be mined. it's not like they are going through it with a fine-tooth comb. i assume there are metrics to be used. >> so for example, the guy this week busted in texas, arrested with trying to provide material support to isis american guy, american name american sounding name no one that you wouldn't have necessarily said i'm going to put him on my profile list. but let's say one of these five

taliban people called somebody overseas but then they said -- it's not like you would even know who it is. that number matches. why does that number match? that's why we've got to go and try to check it out. that's when you go to the court and say, we've got a ping on these two numbers. are we allowed -- judge, can we go forward and check this out and then the judge says no. >> it's always going to be "yes". >> if i have a ping from a terrorist calling to america, yes. >> how do you -- the law and the argument is that you don't have to define the people that you want to profile. >> information acquisition. how do you develop the probable cause to say this person is -- >> probable cause. you nailed it k.g. go for it. >> how do you get the probable cause? you have to do an investigation. you have to be able to go out

there. >> but probable cause for the full extent of the population. >> it's a search and seizure issue. just because of the fact that somebody has drugs on them doesn't mean we all have to be patted down. >> that's very irresponsible, julie. we're not talking about a drug deal. >> we're talking about a ping of a phone call. >> data collection. we're not getting in your phones. if there are abuses in the process, address the abuses but don't throw the baby out with the bath water unless you're okay with profiling. >> i am. >> but in the long run, profiling will not work as terrorists change. they will no longer look like the terrorist that you think they do. >> i don't want to profile people based on their ethnicity or religion but based on whatever they come up with the metrics. >> how do they get the metrics? >> the metrics would evolve. >> that's the nsa program. >> no. no. all of our data -- let me put it

to you this way. all of our data collection i shouldn't have my phone calls gone through. >> they are not going through your phone calls. >> then why do they have them? >> it's the haystack so they can find it when they are looking for something. don't worry, they are not after you. >> get a call to one of these guys and it's going to ping and they are going to take a closer look at her. >> exactly. >> i agree with eric. >> oh my god. we're going to give dana an aneurism here. >> because you guys don't ever answer -- you go round and round and avoid the central question how do you find the people that you are trying to profile? >> metrics. >> what metrics? >> the only thing left that you have is data collection because profiling will never be -- >> and if something happens, i guarantee you the attack on civil liberties from the federal government if there's another attack will be worse than anything you ever imagined. >> well i still have to say

this. how do you find anything -- you think the drug analogies are not -- it's a crime. that's the problem. how do you find anything without defending your civil liberties. >> open the border who cares. >> no one said that. still to come on "the five." >> i don't know what you're talking about there. still to come on "the five," facebook friday. maybe that will go better. first, clinton cash

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economy. you know the statistics. something is wrong when top ceos earn 300 times more than the typical american worker. or here's my latest least favorite statistic. the 25 biggest hedge fund managers earns more than all the kindergartner teachers combined. >> greg i see that you are smirking back at me. >> 38 cents is a lot. >> not to the clintons, it's not. >> my attitude about it is this. i don't begrudge rich people running for office. god knows that fdr and jfk came from wealthy families. but my issue is with politicians who exploit their wealth and try

to not have policies not because of the rich but policy what would that be. >> many policies don't last. >> to help the rich? are you out of your mind? >> health care. >> let me say this, i don't think there's a conflation between somebody's personal wealth unless they are pursing policies that help them make a lot of money. >> are you looking at me? >> i am looking at you. >> this is what makes the left the left. hypocrisy is okay in the good of the greater good. there is wealth as long as you don't have it. if you're a republican and rich that's evil. if you're a democrat and rich that's great. the standards that liberals hold

for bill clinton on sex are identical to what they hold with hillary on greed and -- they are lower than the worm -- what is that? >> she's trying to turn wall street into the occupy white house. >> okay. greg? >> i wasn't listening. >> when he was at -- in private equity one of the things they would do is go in and fix the company and that resulted in layoffs. whereas the clintons who amass an amazing amount of wealth from foreign governments who want to influence top world leaders, including hillary clinton when she was at the state department or improving mine for the russians on uranium, that's okay because it's for the greater good. here's an example. carly fiorina gives 100% of the money she raises for her charities to the charity.

what were the clintons? 13% on the dollar. there's no democrat that could be upset by the hypocrisy of the clintons. we're going to have to accept that. >> it's a joke. it's beating on the hedge fund guys. because she's taking all of the money. >> that's a good point. >> she's very friendly to wall street especially when she ran for senate, she was taking a lot of -- so was the clinton foundation i about the way. you can go to the clinton foundation and scroll through their donors. it's riddled by donors. >> assuming that she's going to stick to that. >> she's basically champ generaling the middle class. she's taking shots at people who make a lot more money. >> we've got to leave it at that. stay tuned. facebook friday is next.

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all right. it's time now for one of our favorite segments on "the five." facebook friday. we answer your questions. i haven't even cheated. this is my favorite. >> usually you look. >> it says please start here. i have instructions. to greg from becky d. if you could have any guest on your new show who would it be? >> she didn't say living or dead so i would say lee marvin but he's dead. so i have to pick somebody who is alive. >> if you're really good you could bring him back to life. >> betty white? >> president obama. i've been putting my calls in. he hasn't returned a single call yet. we're going to meet for lunch first, feel each other out. >> talking points every day. i'll mention it to him. >> thank you. >> kimberly this is from fred k. do you have any advice for a

minority criminal justice major who just graduated? >> follow my lead. >> read your book. >> here's what i would say they should do. get involved with some of the groups like i was with a legal association. there's a lot of mentoring groups that help people get connected with enturninternships and things like that. that's important because you want to be able to have an experience going forward. >> la raza? >> yeah. that's what the legal -- >> aren't they hardcore left wing? >> there are also different law groups that actually help minorities in law school to get ahead. >> all right. >> i'm with you. >> and then there's a latin spice group. >> to julie from william b. what is your favorite vacation destination? >> i went to istanbul a while ago and i loved it. i thought it was fantastic. >> pricey. >> well it was pricey.

it was price tea getting there. i thought it was amazing. the tourists are a little -- >> did you go as a reporter? >> i did not. >> that makes sense. >> why would you bring that up? >> karen s. i like this question for you eric, "i have two young boys. what would be your most important tip on raising boys?" >> wow. >> that's a good question for you. >> it depends on how old you are. i think you have to be tough love. i try this. in fact my son just texted me in the break and said dad, curfew is at 12:00, there's a big party tonight. his friend is having a pool party. i said can i stay until 12:30? i said absolutely. don't do anything that will get you in trouble. you have to stay tough on them. >> where is this party? >> new jersey. >> you know what is terrible

the parents had no idea about that party. >> that's a good thing. keep the parents apprised. tough love is the hardest thing to do but you have to do it. >> laura s. asked me, "dana has mentioned foods that she doesn't let herself eat." >> okay. a couple things like bagels buttered popcorn, hot tamales. things like that glu. >> you don't eat that stuff? that's very strange. >> to greg from james c. will you be holding a private screening of entourage? >> yes, i will. i will meet you at the port authority bus station saturday at 7:00 a.m. >> and will you save a seat next to dobbs?

>> yes, dobbs will be there. >> kimberly this is from paul. what was your favorite city or state to live in and if you could live anywhere, where would it be? >> it was probably san francisco but now i'm -- it's a close tie with new york. >> is that when you were with la raza? >> kimberly, as soon as you said la raza i thought, she will never hear the end of it. >> back in the day, they were very good in law school. hate to be honest around here. >> who is your favorite gop candidate and why? >> dana perino if she ran but i don't think she's running. i like rubio but i wouldn't vote for him. >> eric from monica if you were offered a guest role on "house of cards," would you take it if they had you playing a left liberal?

>> i could pull that off. president underwood, we have to do something about these republicans. i'm tired of them. it's all cutting taxes. they never think about the little people. >> oh oh. >> excellent. >> i'm going to skip one and ask this for greg do you have a ritual before the show? >> well i have two rituals but one i can't talk about. >> that's what i was hoping for. >> kids. >> i'll be -- >> i'll be seeing you. >> i have a cracker and some water and then i do -- >> are you in prison? >> i do a ritual dance. >> ten jumping jacks? >> yes. ahead, greg is going to talk about his new show. he did a push-up challenge on the "today" show. did you make it off the ground? stay tuned.

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all right. it's time for "one more thing" and greg is up first. >> hi everybody. i'm on my new set. i'm going to stay here until sunday. when my show is on. kathie lee and hoda challenged me to do something. >> here we go. >> one, two, three, four five six, seven, eight, nine ten. >> great, baby. >> who you calling out? >> gee whiz, dana perino. >> who else? >> i have to call in another person? >> three people. >> i don't have three friends. >> kimberly guilfoyle and let's

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westfield high school they did an art project on police brutality and throwing the cops under the bus. i thought it was awful. the good news is check out bronswick high school in bronswick, ohio. watch. >> with everything going on and everybody going crazy because all of the shootings, we're sayings, don't believe in it. don't believe that this is the only thing going on in the world. >> and so watch there, they continue to -- this young man organized a day locking arms with the cops and that's the -- remember this is brunswick, ohio which is near cleveland where a lot of issues have been going on with cleveland and the police department. more brunswick, ohio less of westfield, new jersey. jewel julie, you're up.

>> nunatak. >> correct. >> it was. the winning words were scherneschnitte and the second one was nunatak which was an exposed rocky element or a glacier. >> what is the tiebreaker? >> i agree. >> in soccer they have those -- what do they call it? >> yeah. they should have kept them there for three days until somebody won. >> how about a speed test? >> the thing is that girl that girl vanya shivashankar her sister won three years ago. their parents are obviously doing something very right.

>> shivashankar. >> a tiger mom is involved in there somewhere. >> dana, you're up. >> you don't have to go to an ivy league school in order to be rich. get this you should go to a college in the bronx. that's what the study said. manhattan college, home of the jaspers, i would add, they surpass all eight ivy league schools. after ten years, you take $120 compared to $100,000. and more than all four institutions combined. the logo of your school is not as important as the quality of your education. >> that's fascinating. >> moms and dads need to know this. to brookings institution or our facebook page. >> also save money. don't go to journalism graduate

school. >> no you don't need that. just start writing. >> dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." greg gutfeld's show fox news alert. more rain on the way for parts of texas as devastation gets worse and worse. i'm arthel neville. welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's newsw3 headquarters. >> i'm eric shaun. topping the news as we say sadly the death toll is now risingt( inçó texas. we have newñr dramatic video of the desperate race to pull vhctims from the ragingñr flood waters. >> plus, the battmu overi] the patriot act andi] the collection of cell phoneko dataçóyut((rr'g azv critical stageç with the key deadline setq to expire at midnight tomorrow. iraqi forces trying to drive isis out of