day. do not be jejune in writing to the "factor." thanks for watching us tonight. miss megyn warming up. i'm bill o'reilly. please always remember the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, one week after president obama gets hit for praiseing his own foreign policy which he bragged had "ended the major ground wars," he does it again. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. it happened late this afternoon at the white house as the president was making remarks to asian leaders and sharing his take on our place in the world. >> people don't remember when i came into office the united states in world opinion ranked below china and just barely above russia. and today once again the united states is the most respected country on earth. and part of that i think is because of the work that we did

to re-engage the world and say that we want to work with you as partners with mutual interests and mutual respect. >> and he went on. unfortunately, we didn't cut it. to talk about how this is in large part thanks to the fact we have ended the two ground wars and he has pursued a policy against terrorism. we'll get that cued up for you. but while the polls suggest that america may again be popular, critics suggest that america needs to be more engaged. in reports out of iraq we learned that the islamic state terror army captured or destroyed more than 2,000 u.s. armored vehicles in one battle. from syria the bbc detailed how the terrorists' just released cell phone video appearing to show jihadists torturing a 14-year-old boy. as the militants reinforced their control of at least half of that country. they've got half of it now. in yemen, which was relatively recently touted as a success story in the president's mideast policy there was a glimmer of good news as an american hostage has been freed.

but excuse me foreign news services are reporting that there are still u.s. citizens trapped there at risk of kidnapping or murder. on the other side of the world the navy on friday released pictures of the chinese appearing to put artillery guns on uninhabited island in the south china sea where they can threaten vital shipping lanes. so far the chinese are ignoring u.s. calls to stop. and to bring us full circle the head of nato last week warned about a "dramatic expansion of nuclear bomber flights from russia," a move he called deeply troubling and dangerous. our fox news digital politics editor. fox news contributor and veteran of the iraq and afghanistan wars. and ceo of concerned veterans for america. guys thank you very much for being here. pete, let me start with you. unfortunately we didn't cut the sound bite long enough because he went on in that sound bite to say "once again the united states is the most respected country on earth and part of that is because i think of the work we did to re-engage the world and say we want to work with you as partners with mutual interests and respect. it's on that basis we were able

to end two wars while still focusing on the very real threat of terrorism and to work with our partners in places like iraq and afghanistan." this just happened a week ago. it just happened. and he does it again. even despite universal just shock in response to his comments that seemed to say let's celebrate those two ground wars are done it's great, we're just focused now on that one little remaining battle of terror. >> it boggles the mind. he lives in a bubble world of delusion and arrogance that none of us can relate to at this point. he says that he ended two ground wars and is now just focused on terrorism. not only did he not end two ground wars but he created a war in libya induced a war in lebanon, invited a war in the ukraine through weakness, exacerbated the war in syria through not having a strong policy on red lines and what we were going to do there. he has invited a pandora's box of chaos by living in a

delusional world that by retreating from battlefields you improve situations. and that's why to watch what he said about iraq especially as a veteran myself that was a place they touted as a victory in 2009 2010. today descended into chaos. yet he just steps back and says we're much more respected. find me an ally right now that respects us more from the uk to israel to the ukraine to anybody else across the country. there's only two countries that respect us more today, megyn, than they did in 2009, and that's iran and cuba because they're benefiting from our policies right now. >> i don't know. maybe they like us more. but he may be right on the polls, pete because we looked. the gallup poll apparently gallup polls a bunch of countries every year to find out who believes in leadership like who has the best leadership which country has the best leadership. and back in 2007 and 2008 the united states was at 38%, 34%. china in 2008 was above us at 40%. and now today china's fallen to 29%. and the united states is finally above them at 45%.

so the president may be right. we're beating china. >> well there's a low bar. it bumped up. it's also bumped down. there's also a bbc poll that shows an entirely different trend. and there also any countries that were added to that poll since 2009 that they're more weighted toward liking the united states of america. hey, i like more countries to love us. i invite that. i want that. but if you're looking without -- if he's got to cling to one talking point and one poll to claim that the world is better and our friends like us more when in reality where the boots hit the ground our interests are being washed away and our gains are being given away it's hard to argue that our friends would like that. >> why is he so focused on whether we're liked and respected? i mean i realize it's relevant. it's not an irrelevant question. but he seems very focused on that. and is the real question whether we're liked and respected or is it whether we are safe? >> well that's the biggest question. he goes with liked. he talks a lot about mutual

understanding and he doesn't talk as much about respected. respect is very different. respect is earned. respect is earned through allegiance and standing by allies in difficult moments, by making sure your word means something, by finishing things you started. so for him it's about being liked. it's about unclenching our fist and just shaking hands with anybody for the sake of shaking hands. as opposed to having a strong stance when it's difficult sometimes and doubling down where you need to. our previous president at least understood that. i think world leaders respected that about him. maybe they didn't like him all the time or love every move that he made. but there was a veneer of respect that unfortunately right now with this commander in chief we just don't have. >> pete, good to see you. >> thank you. >> joining us with more chris dyer waltz. so we're beating china. >> that's right. >> i mean that's good. >> moving we're -- pete mentioned the bbc. polling the world is impossible. and there are a lot of people who try a lot of different ways

because you have to do on the street interviews face to face. it's a disaster. but you can get some snapshots. and we can say that in that bbc metric the united states did surpass china and move into a hot eighth slot as the eighth most popular country in the world. but of course as pete pointed out, you pointed out, that doesn't have beans to do with whether or not you're actually respected. being liked -- >> it's like the miss congeniality award. you didn't really place in the top 10. top 10 yes. top 5. you're still well liked. which he seems to accept as a victory. >> the european union is very well liked. i highly doubt anybody thinks that they draw much water when it comes to shaping world affairs. >> but here's the more important question. i was trying to get to this. oh we have the sound bite now. unfortunately, it's 9:07, and the show starts at 9:00. but my team does a great job anyway. tonight they cut the sound bite a little wrong. here it is in all its glory. >> it's on that basis that we're able to end two wars while still

focusing on the very real threat of terrorism. >> there we go. end two wars. end two wars. end two wars. he says it over and over again as if it will make it real. but it isn't real. we are still involved in a war. >> in afghanistan we've got almost 10,000 troops still in afghanistan. some of them sadly getting killed by the people that are supposed to be their allies sometimes. we have more troops in iraq and we will have more and more and more troops in iraq and syria as time goes by. you can feel it. you can sense that that's what's going to happen. >> but this is a real world philosophy because i think president obama and some on the left would really like to accept that because we pulled the troops out of iraq that thing is done we're out, it's over whatever happens there now is somebody else's problem, and we can, you know, take our kids to soccer practice without having to think about it, which that would be nice to wrap that warm cozy blanket around us. but the experts say it's false.

>> well first of all, it's better if it's baseball practice. but the reality is for the president it's great that the world likes us. it's more important that the world respects us for goodness sake. but we don't care. in the business of politics we don't particularly care what the rest of the world thinks. we care about national security. how safe and how secure do americans feel? and we're pretty good at polling public attitudes in the united states and do you know what voters in america agree? they feel less safe. they feel like their position is more in peril. for the president to use a legalistic definition to say because he ordered combat -- major combat operations to be over that we're not at war, that this is supposed to encourage us at t-ball practice is not going to cut it and the polls continue to tell us that americans feel very unsafe in some cases unsafe as they were in the shadow of 9/11. >> mm-hmm. it's like what is it about the

beheading, including of several americans, that we don't find war-like? is it war-ish? you know war ry? i don't know. but it feels like real war. chris, good to see. you. >> you bet. >> second amendment supporters say the department of justice is now trying to use new rules, though they were quietly released right before memorial day weekend, to get the gun control the president couldn't get passed. remember at the time the democratically controlled sthatd?sthatd senate? dana loesch is here to explain. and in baltimore the day freddie gray was arrested -- since the day freddie gray was arrested 51 people have been killed in baltimore. 51. 47 of them have been black. not one has died at the hands of a police officer. we'll take a look at that. plus the reverend al sharpton could be in hot water again for preaching a political agenda and how from the pulpit at the request of that tax-exempt

organization the naacp. judge andrew napolitano is here after this break. >> don't come up in here and think they're going to have four or five days of convention. we're going to have another convention outside. [ applause ]

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as long as the lifestyle -- [ cheers and applause ] roaches will do whatever they want to do in your town. but the minute you cut the light on roaches will fly. roaches will run. they ask you why al sharpton come to cleveland? tell them i'm a roachologist. [ cheers and applause ] >> well that was reverend al sharpton speaking friday at a church in cleveland, the site of the 2016 republican national convention. the cable news host using a house of worship to simultaneously attack police criticize republicans, advocate for the democrats, organize street protests and promote his

msnbc broadcast all in one. all at the request of a tax-exempt group, the naacp. i spoke about this with fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano moments ago. >> the naacp invites him. he speaks in a church. he does basically everything you can do to undermine the republicans who will be going there including announcing his little rally he's going to have against them. and i can't -- how many ethical problems has he created? >> well he's created some ethical problems and even some legal problems. the naacp is tax-exempt. the government gives it the ability to exempt its donors from paying taxes on the donations they make to it. the same is presumably the case i don't know this to be so but the same is presumably the case with the church in cleveland where he was standing in the clip you just ran, and from the pulpit in which he was speaking. so the question is how far can he go to violate the irs regulations? because the naacp and the church

voluntarily waived their first amendment privileges to advocate for legislation or for and against candidates in return for that tax-exempt status. that's where he gets -- not him but they would get in trouble. >> exactly. so the rules say you cannot if you maintain your tax-exempt status if you're the naacp you cannot directly or indirectly participate in the opposition of any candidate for office. now, you tell me whether he sounds like he is opposing a candidate for office. here's another sound bite. >> i'm talking about jeb bush and scott walker and the rest of them running that's going to come up in here and think they're going to have four or five days of convention. we're going to have another convention outside. [ cheers and applause ] >> now, that's where he -- that's where he's wearing his msnbc hat and not his i'm

standing at a tax-exempt pulpit speaking to an organization that sent its folks here using tax-exempt funds hat. because he really made a mistake by mentioning names. i think the irs would leave him alone, would leave the naacp alone -- again, i don't mean to say him. he can say what he wants. leave the naacp alone and the church alone if he sort of pushed in their direction, we want a government that's more responsible -- >> which the naacp has been doing for years now. they were investigated by the bush administration back in 2004 for similar behavior. >> and exonerated. >> not exonerated but they were not prosecuted. they didn't lose their status. >> when he mentions names, he should have consulted lawyers first because that's what would cause the irs, if we had a neutral irs interested in enforcing the law -- >> that's where i wanted to go. this is the same irs who investigated all of these groups these tea party-linked groups these republican groups

because it smelled a rat. it said we think you're getting too political just based on your name based on the fact you stand for freedom. and this guy can get up there and the naacp can sponsor p it and the odds of there being any investigation into that are zippo. >> and he knows that. he understands that. the obama irs is not going to investigate the naacp or that church in cleveland. so he will make the most of that situation to draw attention to himself and his legitimately held beliefs in an effort to gin up those beliefs in the face of the republican national convention which is what he's talking about. >> so at least the four viewers of msnbc will know exactly what they're getting when al sharpton is out there on election night. fair and impartial. >> how many viewers did you say? >> i have four. i may have overstated it by one or two. just kidding. they have a few more. >> he's a character and he's fun to watch but when he starts mentioning names, political names that he wants these groups to oppose -- >> i don't know. >> -- he's really pushing -- >> i think you're going to get a lot of pushback on he's a fun character to watch because i

think he's done real damage. with the stuff he was saying about the police and he went on to hit the police again here. about how officer wilson was in no fear for his life a fact that was not true and the d.o.j. disproved him on. he's really caused some havoc. >> in that case he's making up facts, and sometimes he does that. >> good to see you. >> good to be with you. more than a dozen new gun regulations are on their way to becoming law, basically. as the d.o.j. unveils its plan to tackle gun control without the burden of having to really answer to you. dana loesch is next on exactly what they are doing. they're doing it. plus lots of reaction to the news of our upcoming interview with the duggar family. howie kurtz is here on how the media has handled the recent coverage of one of america's most famous families. >> each one of them also.

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a terribly sad loss for the vice president this weekend as joe biden's oldest son, beau died of brain cancer at age 46. a bronze star veteran, beau made waves with a moving introduction of his father at the 2008 democratic convention. he also turned down a run for senate despite his popularity as delaware's attorney general so he could bring one of america's most notorious child molesters to justice. the vice president called his son the finest man his family has ever known. beau biden is survived by his wife and two young children. well second amendment supporters are sounding off in a new series of rules being proposed by the doj. critics argue these will allow the administration to accomplish more gun control without having to go through that annoying congress. here to explain, dana loesch

host of "dana" on the blaze tv and author of "hands off my gun." that's exactly what it is. you can argue whether it's good or bad. but it's clear the president couldn't get his gun control agenda through congress through the democratically controlled senate at the time and now he is trying to do it through the executive branch through the department of justice, what he could not pass through the people's elected representatives. >> absolutely. megyn, thanks for having me. he's even been unsuccessful at the state level, as a lot of bloomberg-backed lobbyists have discovered recently with colorado and texas especially where you see open carry and campus carry moving forward. but with regards to the department of justice coming up with this it is weird, and a lot of people are questioning why the doj is involved in pushing these regulations that directly impact and regulate second amendment natural rights -- >> what do they do? what are the new regulations going to do? >> that's what's interesting. because they're always incredibly vague about this as they always are whenever they announce this.

two things we do know the first of which is that the department of justice would like to see the atf modify at least one of the rules that it has and make it to where if someone is convicted of misdemeanor domestic assault that they are no longer able to go out and purchase a firearm. which they're not as it is already. and this is something that the supreme court recently upheld just last year. and with that -- >> the supreme court -- didn't the supreme court limit it to you have to be convicted of something, like a physical assault for domestic violence? >> right. it has to be a violent physical assault. right. there has to be bodily harm. because this kind of differs state by state, and what they're trying to do megyn, is they want it to be this blanket term instead of doing it as a case-by-case basis as it has always been done. and there are people saying well wow, one instance that isn't really malicious, one instance could actually invalidate someone's second amendment natural rights forever, that's a really serious thing. and the second thing, megyn, that they're looking to do is in my opinion they're looking to make it a little bit easier to

adjudicate someone as being mentally unfit. now, we saw a problem with this just recently with new york state in which you had last year 34,000 people were found to be mentally unfit to actually go out and legally possess a firearm. and these people had all they had done megyn, is just go and seek out mental health -- psychologists, go talk to a psychologist recently mental health. and there are a lot of mental health experts out there that are saying look there's a huge difference between someone who is a dangerous threat and someone who is an assumed threat just because someone goes and maybe speaks with a psychologist maybe it's a mother who had a child and is going through baby blues. >> this couldn't get through the congress. >> right. >> so this is going to happen. unless something extraordinary happens, the rules being proposed it will be finalized in the fall but this is going to happen unless -- because it seems a little odd that -- i mean i've heard it before. you couldn't get it through the congress. which is kind of how the process

is supposed to work. and therefore it's gone another way. i'm doing it. >> and there was a reason why it was difficult for it to get through, because it wasn't supported not just by the majority of american voters but it wasn't supported by the majority of congress. you had harry reid when he was still the senate majority leader stripping out controversial portions and portions he thought were unfit, for instance, from dianne feinstein's quote unquote assault weapons ban bill. but not only that but this is something that there's never anything concrete never anything completely specific but this is a feature of this system. it's not supposed to be super easy to shove through huge sweeping changing pieces of legislation that have -- >> it's a way of creating entirely new laws. the last time i checked it was supposed to be the congress's function. and then the president signs it. that's how the bill becomes a

law. as school ofhouse rock helps me recall. this is a very controversial issue. >> it is. and something huge to point out, megyn, if you look at the recent mass shootings, if you look at james lee, who's the guy who went into the discovery channel headquarters if you look at james holmes in colorado -- >> don't sigh any more of their names. >> i know. these are instances where you have individuals who clearly could have easily been adjudicated mentally but the process wasn't followed. with the arizona killer the guy who shot at gaby giffords this is a guy who had been banned from his college campus. his college -- >> we need to shore up the mental health system. that's absolutely -- >> exactly. >> and very much remains to be done. >> and people need to follow that process. thank you, megyn. >> great to see you as always. from baltimore tonight come some troubling new numbers and one big question. since the day freddie gray was arrested 51 people have been killed in baltimore. 47 of those people have been

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from the world headquarters of fox news it's "the kelly file," with megyn kelly. >> well the final numbers are in and baltimore just recorded its deadliest month in decades. in may 2015 there were 43 homicides. before that the record high was in august 1990 where there were 42. and the bigger story tonight, baltimore is not the only city

seeing a rise in its murder rates. over the last five months violent crimes are up sharply in some of america's biggest cities including chicago, new york philadelphia and milwaukee. mark fuhrman is a fox news contributor and former lapd homicide detective. andell brown is a civil rights attorney. thank you both for being here. so mark let's start with how we were teasing the segment. in baltimore they had over 50 deaths. 47 of those have been of african-americans since freddie gray was arrested. and not one was at the hands of a police officer. and there are no protests. there is no al sharpton. there is no one rioting in the streets over it. it's only the freddie gray incident in baltimore that led to all that. >> well it's not politically advantageous for them to riot about blacks killing blacks. this is business as usual in a

lot of these communities. i mean the gang members are shooting other gang members and drug dealers are shooting other drug dealers and there's fights going on. and that's the dynamics that exist in a lot of these places all over the country. but what is missing now is the motivation and the morale that's necessary for these officers many of whom work these areas by choice to actually go in and actually aggressively chase down these guns and these drug dealers and the gang members and keep them moving intercept them and sometimes arrest them. that's what keeps the crime down. when you don't back the officers and the city government and their own police department turns their back on them they're going to do the job by the book. >> andell what about these numbers? because you look across the board, and they're up. they're up considerably. milwaukee's crime versus the same period last year murders, not just crime, up 117%. denver up 90%. new york city is up 15%.

los angeles, homicides down by 10%. shootings up 23%. so the doctors are getting better but the criminals are too. >> megyn, it is the government's job to keep the people honest to make sure they're abiding by the law and doing the right thing. it is also the people's job to keep their government honest whether it's the president or a congressperson or the police officer that's working on their street. to somehow imply that it is the fault of the residents and the citizens of these places to use their american right to speak up and speak out when they think there's a problem that criminals decide to go and do crazy things i think is wrong. we have to speak out and speak out. but they should also speak up and speak out about issues that affect education, about issues that affect jobs in their communities and about violence in their communities. they should stand up against those things as well.

>> what really happened here mark was we saw ferguson. you know there was a major investigation into that cop who wound up being exonerated. and then on the heels of that came baltimore. and certainly in baltimore you can't deny the fact that the homicides are up at record numbers and the arrests have been cut in half. >> well, megyn, when you look at ferguson if we just -- >> go ahead, mark. >> if we take ferguson and we just focus on ferguson what we saw is a rush to make the facts as the mob chose to make it instead of waiting for the investigation to be done by an outside agency. and the officer was exonerated. and clearly michael brown was clearly always the aggressor and the suspect and the officer was clearly always the victim. but it started a ball rolling across the country and now that is why the focus is on white officers against a black suspect. and the black on black murders

can go on unchecked and nobody knows their names. there's no demonstration. nobody cares. but there's something else that is really clear that people don't understand. the people that live in these communities are actually condoning it because they don't pick up the phone with the anonymous phone call who's got the gun who's driving the car, who pulled the trigger, who's selling the dope or anything else. so they're part of the problem. they're not part of the solution. and all the demonstrations in the world won't solve that or save one life. >> what about that andell? because the critics have said this is what people wanted a less aggressive police force. and they say careful what you wish for. >> what people want is a police force that does their job like the majority of police officers do with integrity, honesty, and compassion. the few officers that decide to conduct themselves in a criminal manner should be held accountable, just like anyone else who breaks the law. just like if the president doesn't do what he's supposed to

do. many here would be asking for them to be held accountable. so asking for those members or those whoen gauge in a wrong activity to be held accountable doesn't mean that we don't want them to do their job. >> this is not the last -- >> quickly, mark. i've got to go. >> megyn, i can't disagree but the problem is this. the officers aren't wrong by aggressively getting out and actually shaking people down and getting guns off the street. but they are afraid that if they do that they'll not only have a mob but their own department will throw them to the wolves. >> we've heard that directly from the police commissioner. guys thank you both. for the last couple weeks one of america's most famous families has been in the media spotlight. after one son's confession rocked the duggar clan. howie kurtz is next on the media, the duggars, and "the kelly file." >> in today's world it's probably a little odd having

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son josh admitted that he had "acted inexcusably" 12 years ago, hurting his family and his friends. trace gallagher has more. trace? >> reporter: megyn, in the early years of michelle and gym bobb duggar's marriage they did practice birth control on and off but after a couple decided to forgo contraceptives and allow god to decide how many children they'd have. thus the name "19 kids and counting." before reality television jim bob duggar served in the arkansas house of representatives and later lost a run for the u.s. senate. in 2004 michelle duggar was named arkansas young mother of the year. the couple's primary source of income was from rental properties. their reality show actually began as a series of one-hour specials on tlc documenting them and their 17 children. as the family grew so did their exposure. the specials became a regular show and tlc's biggest hit. watch. >> came down with chicken pox.

and we knew that that meant that any of the others that were around her that hadn't had them yet would probably be getting them too. >> now the duggars have 10 boys 9 girls, all with names that begin with j. all home schooled in tawny town arkansas. they're devout independent baptists who focus on faith in god, purity, and modesty, including a strict dress code for girls with no shorts tanktops or skirts above the knee. all dates are chaperoned. and the duggars use the buddy system where an older child is assigned to a younger one to help through primary care. but their family values system took a hit when a report surfaced about the oldest child, 27-year-old josh duggar seen here with his wife. watch. >> you get to see all those little features and it just makes you go wow, there's my little baby right there. it's really awesome. >> police documents reportedly show when josh duggar was 14 and 15 he molested five underaged girls including his sisters.

josh duggar issued a statement saying and i'm quoting, "i confessed this to my parents, who took several steps to help me address the situation. we spoke with authorities, where i confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive council." in the police report the alleged victims' names were redacted. the police report also says that only after josh duggar's second confession did jim bob duggar his dad, notify elders at the church who recommended josh duggar get counseling at a christian work camp. the father also notified a state trooper but the trooper didn't report it to higher-ups. when the police were eventually tipped off and conducted an investigation, the three-year statute of limitations had expired. since the controversy, 20 of the show's sponsors have pulled out and tlc has pulled the show from its schedule. now the duggars are speaking out to megyn kelly to "share our hearts with you about the pain that we walked through as a family 12 years ago, the tears we shed the forgiveness that

was given." the interview clearly is piquing interest but so is the interviewer. watch. >> i think it's smart that they're going to megyn kelly and they're fools if they think that megyn kelly's going to go easy on them. megyn kelly is tough and she's putting journalism ahead of any sort of politics. >> tough, fair and balanced. megyn. >> thanks, trace. joining me now with how the media is handling this story, howie kurtz, fox news's media analyst and the host of "media buzz." thanks for being here. so that's fine. i'll take that reputation as a tough but fair journalist. however, this isn't going to be a cross-examination of a family. it's going to be an interview. i want to hear their story. and i think america wants to hear their story now. and what's been remarkable to me as i admit somebody who doesn't watch this show is to see how many in the media have handled it. from you know jumping to

they're the worst, the house of horrors, this is sick sick sick to people like this woman on cnn trying to make this the problem of the republican presidential field. watch. >> some republicans may have what is becoming called a josh duggar problem. what are we talking about? some of the presidential gop candidates and also likely candidates have posed for photos with the christian conservative reality television star. now, let's be clear. this is long before any of the scandal surrounding him emerged this week. >> bill clinton was accused of rape. he has been accused by several women of sexually assaulting them. but the fact that a presidential candidate has posed with some random member of the family that's going through this issue is somehow a problem for the gop-ers? >> it's amazing.

that cnn report had plenty of company in dragging in the republican presidential candidates into this. look i've been pretty disgusted by how some liberal media types are using what's obviously a family tragedy to score political points. here's piers morgan. "shameless hip ok are cy from ultra right conservatives who preach beening goody goodies." where is the media outcry overt fact that someone in law enforcement leaked to "in touch weekly" and to the arkansas democrat gazette josh duggar's juvenile police records which are supposed to be sealed and sacrosanct some critics enjoying this scandal so much megyn, they can't even be bothered to mention that. >> they received it through a freedom of information act request but the law did not allow the release, and anybody who's in law enforcement knows you're not allowed to release the sealed records of a juvenile. and in particular where the victims are also juveniles. because what's happened here is josh duggar's private personal sealed records have been

improperly released. it doesn't excuse any of his behavior and it's not meant to diminish it either. but the records of the young girls have also been released. and in particular their identity because the police records leave very little doubt about who they are and what family they are a part of. so all of this, you know it's one thing if the duggars want to talk about it and we'll get into that but the media didn't even pause. and there is a question about why they were so excited to feast on this carcass. >> well sometimes people on the right feast on when a liberal icon falls into trouble. so many in the mainstream media i think -- it's a juicy story. it's a newsworthy story. everybody's waiting for your interview. but you know couldn't wait to feast. i think that's the perfect word. now, look there are legitimate questions here for the duggar parents about why they didn't do more to contact the authorities when they first learned of the alleged abuse in 2002 why they signed up the family torefor a reality show with all the scrutiny it brings when they had this dark secret.

>> absolutely. i will ask all of that. i will ask them about all of that. nothing is off limits. i don't plan on getting into the specific details about what was done because my understanding is the victims the victims don't want to discuss that either. and if you want to read it you can see it in the police report but you shouldn't be looking at any way. it never should have been released and so there are questions for many in this case. from josh duggar to the parentslvi to the police chief who did something the law clearly said something he shouldn't have done. again, you can watch the sit down with the duggar family this wednesday at 9:00 p.m. eastern time and then we will have a special follow up on friday evening at 9:00 and we'll reveal the details of that on wednesday night. up next a familiar face makes history. first by being the cover of a wheaties box and today, gracing the cover of "vanity fair." bruce and now, caitlyn jenner.

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jenner says she would go on speaking tours and war a bra and panty hose under her suits. they were shot at jenner's home in malibu. the world saw jenner do an interview with sawyer a few weeks ago where he looked nothing like the cover. turns out he underwent several hours of facial reconstruction surgery since then. the shoot has a video which was narrated by cai thetlyi jenner. >> it was always living that lie. every day, always had a secret from morning until night. kaitlyn doesn't have any secrets. as soon as the "vanity fair" coversv comes out, i'm free. >> jenner says if she were lying on her death bed and had kept the secret she would have been saying you just blew your entire life. a author of friday night lights wrote the article and said he

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