when kevin jorgeson needs light, he trusts only duracell quantum because it lasts longer in 99% of devices. chanteuse. i'm bill oereilly. don't forget the spin it is a story that has generated hundreds of thousands of headlines and plenty of krit schism. tonight, for the very first time the family that became famous for their conservative christian values and their 19 children speak out about a painful secret involveing their oldest son and the actions he knows were inexcusable. welcome to "the kelly file," everybody. i'm megan kelly. just hours ago, i sat down with the star of "19 kids and counting." we discussed the serious allegations of inappropriate

touching some 12 years ago by a teenaged josh dugger. some of the topics we were discussing are troubling and not intended for younger viewers. but, first, a look at how we got here. >> "the duggers." a clean cut family of 21, 10 boys, 9 girls. from the outside looking in seemed to live a charmed and sheltered life. keeping together with our megafamilies we're each in charge of certain areas. >> he organizes and straightens the pantry. >> self sufficient extremely well-behaved. the family first rose to prominence in arkansas where, in the late 1990s and early 2000s, gym bob dugger served in the state house of representatives. but it was in 2004 that the duggers gained national notoriety. >> if you lost count, allow us to help. >> first, with documentary ris of their unusually large family.

and, later, with a hit series on tlc. today, known as "19 kids and counting." the show focuses on their devout faith and strict courting rools that includes chaperons and no hand holding before an engagement. >> we think it's a great plan to be pure for the one that god has for you and on your wedding day, get to enjoy all the physical aspects of that relationship. >> the program was an enormous hit, drawing millions of devoted viewers. but with celebrities, came controversy. criticism as what some view as their more controversial opinions from their views only abortion. >> the doctors and nurses are being paid to stop the lives of millions of unborn children. >> what's really at stake here is the american family. marriage is central to the family.

and every single child deserves a mother and father. >> their detractors even starting a petition demanding that their show be can sed, accusing the family of gay fear mongering. the shows ratings continued to soar. the daughter of jill dugger the network's biggest telecast in four years. and then a bomb shell. may 19th, 2015. in touch weekly reports the duggers 27-year-old josh had been named in a prior sexual abuse investigation. two days later on may 21st the magazine reprints what turned out to be an illegally released police report. it reveals that josh while 14 or 15 years old, forcibly touched at least five girls in 200 and 2003. the report makes clear the victims include josh's younger

sisters. the duggers include church elders. they sent josh to a kind of rehab program and reported him to a state trooper who was an acquaintance of the family. however, no formal investigation was launched until police received an anonymous tip in 2006. by that time the statute of limitations had run and no charges were filed. the day of the second in-touch report josh dugger issues an apology writing in part 12 years ago, as a young teenager i acted inexcusably for which i am extremely sorry and deeply regret. i hurt others including my family and close friends. his parents and wife of six years also issue statements. wife anna saying josh told her about his past before they got engaged. and she was shocked, but that he had gotten help humbled himself before god and changed the direction of his life. the media helped. >> big news coming out of the

cross section of the conservative cultural wars in reality tv. >> tonight, tlc pulling its hit show "19 and counting" off the air. >> josh dugger and his family are portrayed as the picture of perfection. >> how dare they shame the lgbt community. how dare they condemn them for their immoral lifestyle when they are. when the duggers are the immoral ones? i say screw you jim bob and michelle, screw you. >> why would a family with such a painful secret launch a reality tv show? and was it hypocrite kal to preach family values knowing of their own son's repeated sins. i asked them that and much more in our dugger family interview right now. >> take us back to 2002. how did you first learn that there was a problem with josh? >> well 12 years ago, we went through one of the most darkest

times that our family has ever gone through. and our son, josh came to us on his own and he was crying. and he had just turned 14. and he said that he had actually improperly touched some of our daughters. and -- >> we were shocked. i mean, we were just devastated. i don't think any parent is prepared for a trauma like that. and i think we had one ray of hope in that josh had a tender conscious and he was the one that came sure on his own, even though the others didn't know anything of his wrong doing. >> this is a young boy who has come to you with shocking information. what did he say? i mean how did you respond to him? what was that like? that exchange? >> there was so much grief in our hearts. i think, as parents, we fit, you know we're failures. here we tried to raise our kids

to do what's -- to know what's right. and, yes, one of our children made some really bad choices. and i think, as a parent we were just devastated. >> did he explain why? was that a question that you ask? >> he said he was just curious about girls and he had gone in and touched them over their cloets while he was sleeping. they didn't even know he had done it. so we went -- the first thing was to protect the girls. >> the girls all sleep together? >> yes, the girls had two bedrooms at the time. >> how many girls are we talking about? >> we had five girls at the time. and, so in iway he went in and said he had done this. so we first off, of course really talked to him and then we went and talked to all of the girls, the children. >> he was so important for us as parents to talk to our girls and make sure that nothing else had happened. one by one, as we talked with them none of them were aware of

josh's wrong doings. >> so they learned about it from you? >> yes, yes. >> how, at that point, he had said that he had done this to how many of the girls? >> that was the two. >> okay. but neither one had any recollection? >> they did not know. >> and what was their reaction when they learned it from you? >> they didn't -- they really didn't know. what happened was we asked them at first if anything happened. and then after some other things happened that we actually shared with them. and we actually -- but we took a lot of steps. first, we tried to deal with this in-house, as parents. we were in shock. we were trying to figure out what was the next step? but really looking back we did the best we could under the circumstances. >> what am i going to do? he says he touched two of the daughters. and you don't know what to do, right? >> at that point now, nobody knew about it besides michelle and i and josh. what did we do with the investigation.

besides the girls, we talked to them and they didn't know that anything happened because they were asleep. and so we talked to him, we put all kinds of punishmenteds on him. we watched him, like, all the time. i took him to work with me and he just i mean we just poured our life into him. >> when you went to bed, at night, during that time frame, were you scared? were you worried? he's 14. he's having this problem. what's going to happen when we duoto sleep? >> nothing ever happened like that again in the girl's bedrooms after that. so we had safeguards that protected them from that. but there was another incident where -- two different incidents where girls were like laying on the couch and he had touched, like over the couch and actually touched the breast while they were sleep. and so -- over the cloets. and so it was a very difficult situation. but as we talked to other parents and different ones since then a lot of families have

said that they've had similar things happen in their families. and so this -- i mean this is for us of course this is public shame that our son did this at 12, 13 years ago. >> when you heard that the behavior had resumed, describe what that was like for you? >> we thought, you know at first, that josh you know, was on the road to mend first. but he was still a kid. you know? and he was still a juvenile. he wasn't an adult. and so there was a couple more times that he just came and told us what he had done. again, this was not rape or anything like that. this was, like touching somebody over their clothes. there's a cup 8leouple incidents where he touched them under their clothes, but it was, like, a few seconds. and he came to us and was crying and told us what happened.

and it was after that third time he came to us where we really felt like you know what we have done everything we can as parents to handle this in-house. we need to get help. that's when we went to outside folks and asked some very close friends if they could come over. so my best friends came over, we talked about it. and, so at that point, we pulled josh out of the home and we knew of a man who mentored young men. he was running a little training center in little rock, arkansas. and under the roof you had little rock police department on one side and a prison on the other. and he said josh would come down there and do some construction with him and he would work with him and hopefully get him straightened out.

>> some people said why did they wait? why didn't they go to authorities or counseling at the very first time he came to you? >> i talked to somebody who worked at one of those juvenile youth sex offender that till sills and he described how they actually take care of the situation down there. and the success rate is not very good. and so we felt like that going from a perspective of really reaching hishearted first would be important. that's why we sent him down to little rock -- >> did legal ever pop into your mind? >> as parents, you're not mandatory reporters. the law allows for parents to do what they think is best for their child. and so we got him out of the home and we sent him down to this place and that was really probably the best decision we made through this whole process because it was at that place. this was the first time josh was

out of the home. he had just turned 15. and it was at that point that he came in himself and god really worked in his life. matter of fact he broke and he went and asked god to forgive him. he went back and asked those that had offended him to forgive him. but we felt the last jurisdiction to make things right with was the law. >> i'll get to that in one second. the subsequent incident involved daughters who were awake. at least a couple of them? >> there was a couple. and they didn't really understand, though. what happened. >> it was more his heart, it was his intent. he knew it was wrong. but it wasn't to them. they probably didn't even understand it was improper touch. >> i know that the ultimate one, before you really got help involved a very young daughter. i'll avoid the age because i don't want to identify anyone

specifically. but the single digit. what was that like for you to hear? you must have thought for some time this is a pubescent boy, i don't know what he's going through, but when it moves to a young daughter -- >> right. at that point, that's when we pulled him out of the house and said he can't be here. so we pulled him out and he went through that working with that man and -- >> yes, the counseling. and then when he was done with the could you please ling the counseling but it was a christian base -- >> it really had a huge impact on his life. that was the turning point in his life. and this man really reached his heart. >> and before josh went away in a period where the girls knew and he knew and you knew when you're living in the house together what was that like? what was the dinner table like? >> we tried to make things as normal as we can.

but, also michelle and i both were keeping an eye on josh all of the time. and watching his behaviors, watching his attitudes. >> and prior to him leaving, were you concerned for the safety of your daughters? >> we definitely put safeguards in our home. >> and we actually talked to our daughters and reminded them about wrong and right touch and about if anybody ever touched you in a wrong way, for you to come and tell your mom and dad. >> immediately. and so we were trying to protect and watch and make sure that their hearts were safe they had a safe place to talk. and, at the same time putting boundaries and safeguards up in our home. >> yes, we weren't giving up on josh. >> up next the terrible choice these parents faced.

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when the duggers discovered what their teenage son had done in the family home they were faced with several questions, including what they should sell police and how to protect their children. and that's where our story picks up. >> you know i have to protect my daughters at the expense of my son or vice versa? >> you know i think it's -- in a situation where we felt like our son's heart had gone astray i think jesus shared a story about he had a hundred sheep and one went astray. and there he was, he took care of the 99, but he also went after the one that went astray. so as parents, we still love josh and we love the other ones but we're going to protect the ones that are in our hands, but, also we're going to make sure

that josh doesn't make any wrong choices. >> it doesn't mean that you're not a good shepherd. jesus was a good shepherd but he went after that one that went astray. so we think as parents, we were trying to do the best that we knew how to help this one and protect these. and i feel like true that as we came to that point where, you know josh share edd improperly touching the young one, we were devastated and we said we've got to send him out of the home. he has got to go. and seek counsel and get help. >> did you feel -- >> i mean it was, like that evening -- >> they took him out. >> he just was weeping and shared immediately what he had done. so we were weeping and the little one was, like what's

wrong? why is josh leaving and we're all leaving. and, for days and days i was saying you know josh has done some very bad things. and he's very sorry. >> yes, but i was thankful. the ray of hope was that josh had came to tell us and his heart was still soft. we wouldn't have known. >> all of this you learned from josh? >> actually none of the victims really knew about this or understand what he had done. >> what do you think about that? as a parent did you feel guilty when you learned that his behavior had continued and other girls in the house had become victims? >> yes. we i think as parents, you feel like a failure when one of your kids does something wrong. you feel like if i had done some more training, that maybe this

wouldn't happen. truth is kids will make their own choices and their own decisions even though you've taught them what's right and wrong. >> i'm asking you as the father of your girls than as the father of josh. it must have been very hard to look at your little one and know that you know, the behavior has been on going, as difficult as your position was. >> right. i was so thankful though, that josh came and told us. and our girls, even though this was a very bad situation, as we talked to other families who've had other things happen a lot of their stories were even worse. >> just to clear it up there were four daughters and a babysitter outside of the family? >> yes. >> and you notified her about the incident? >> yes, he called her up and asked for forgiveness and she didn't nope that he had done anything, either. so it was more just like a --

>> a fondling. >> a touch while they were asleep. for most of them. and there was two other incidents that were when they were awake and it was just a bad thing. it's something that we'd like to forget. >> let me just back up to the therapy. you sent josh to this treatment center. but was there more therapy for josh and/or the girls? >> yes. what happened was when josh came back from little rock and we felt like the last step was to make things right with the law because he had broken the law. and so we took him down to the local police station, actually, the closest one to our house. and it was arkansas state police headquarters and walked in and talked to a man there. >> let me stop you there. what was that like? how do you make the decision as a parent to bring your kind to law enforcement and turn him over. >> we felt like it was an important step for josh to confess to the police what he had done because he had broken

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welcome back to our exclusive sitdown with the duggers. since the story broke about josh dugger molesting young girls a dozen years ago, the tabloids has suggested this family went out of its way to hide the secret. sarting with how the family first decided to approach the police. >> how did you choose the person to whom you would surrender him. there's been some question about whether you chose a friend,

someone who you knew would go easy on him. >> yeah i had a toy business for years. so i did know a lot of the officers around here. but we went into arkansas state pligs and -- >> at police headquarters? >> at the police headquarters. walked in, this man was there. we went in and talked to him and said hey, my son has something that he needs to share with you. and we actually took a witness with us. we went in and sat down and he shared everything. >> he told it all. >> he told everything. and we had no idea what that officer was going through on his own. >> so the audience knows, that officer is now in jail for 56 years for child pornography charges. did you have any idea he was involved with that? >> we had no idea. that came out years later. we were shocked to read that. >> so craig only chose that guy -- >> i didn't know anything about this guy besides he was an officer there at the head quarts. >> and from prison now where he's serving for child

pornography, he said he only told me about one ins debit. >> i'm questioning why in the world would he say that. he actually violated the law in this case himself by not reporting it. >> so the bottom line is josh told them everything. >> everything. >> five victims. >> in fact we took a friend with us because we wanted to make sure that we had a witness that wouldn't -- that would verify that we had shared everything. >> and then you said that he gave josh a stern lecture. >> he did. >> did he warn him that the law could come after hirm. >> yeah he said and if you continue down this path you're going to destroy your life and you could end up in prison. >> when that was over you think it's over, i assume. >> we didn't know. a few weeks went by, a few months went by. >> you're waiting and when the doorbell is ringing, you're wondering whether someone's there to arrest him. >> and then later, there was

somebody that called the hotline and said that the duggers had reported this before. >> we're going to get to that. but first i want to ask you about the koungsling. but the counseling josh got in that treatment center was that the only counseling he ever received? and what about your daughters? >> no josh actually went and had complete -- >> professional yeah: >> all of our children seek professional counseling. after this all of our children received professional counseling including josh to pay for his own counseling. >> did you feel when josh had been through all of this he had gone to the christian-based treatment program. he had gone through counseling he had gone to the police and he emerged back into the home. did you feel that he was a threat still? or did you feel -- >> not at all. >> or that he could be trusted a

at that point. >> did you ever worry that the treatment didn't work especially with so many young treatment in the house? >> no, no. josh was a changed person. >> and we still had those safeguards in place. there were a lot of things that changed in our understanding of parents. like you know the first child, the first time to come to this place in his life and there's things that -- even since then i think that why we don't let boys babysit. we don't let, you know they don't play hide and seek together. and there's just a lot of things that we put in place. we said you're not alone in the room with someone educational. always be out visible. and so we just -- there's boundaries that we've learned.

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it's only two of us. how much dirt can we manufacture? more than you think. very little. [doorbell rings] what's this? swiffer sweeper. i came in under the assumption that it was clean. i've been living in a fool's paradise. the duggers moved on. in 2004 their large brood began to gain attention in 26media. with the family in chicago and about to go on the oprah win free show someone leaked writing in part you need to know the truth. they are not what they seem to be. harpo studios faxed the letter

to authorities and a police investigation was formally opened. according to the now-revealed police reports, which, as juvenile records, were not subject to disclosure a judge is dealing with that separately the family told police that josh had been inappropriate with five girls. five victims were interviewed and confirmed that josh was sent to a christian treatment program. each victim said no other abuse had taken place by anyone else or by josh after counseling. ultimately it was determined that the three-year statute of limitations had run and authorities had decided not to bring charges. >> so it's all behind you for all intent and purposes. and then in 2008 you launched a reality tv show. what would make you launch a reality tv show about your family given this past?

>> you know back early on after all of this was taken care of back in 2003 we actually had a magazine that came to michelle and said hey, can we do a story about your family. and we said, yes, that would be fine. >> but are you thinking at all, wait this might not be a good idea because when you bring cameras into your home they tend to discover things. and people get more interested in you. >> we have nothing to hide. we had taken care of all of that years before. and when they asked us to do the reality tv show all of this had been taken care of five years before. and we had a clean bill of health from the state. we had said you're going to counseling, we told the police. >> did any of the girls or did josh say whoa, hold only, mom and dad. hold on. >> we had no figure because everything was taken care of. that was a -- that was actually a sealed juvenile record. and so -- and they had told us that all of his stuff was done as a juvenile. this was all stuff that was

sealed and this is stuff that under law, there's no way that this could ever be brought out. >> did you lev e live in fear that it might come out? >> i don't know that we lived in fear because we had all resolved it. it had been forgiven. we moved on with life. >> when you heard that in late may, that the story had broken that you hnt been given a heads up by any of the official police involved that they were going to do this what was your reaction? >> i said guys i know that there's a lot of families out there that are hurting. and you know what this isn't something that we wanted to come out. but if people can see that josh who did these very bad things when he was a young person that god could forgive him for these terrible things then i hope other people realize that god can forgive them and also make them a new creature. >> was there any motivation for

this police chief to want to hurt your family? >> i'm really not sure. >> he definitely wasn't caring about the victims. >> have you had any prior dealings with her? >> josh had talked to her one day at a meeting and he said hi to her and stuck out his hand and she had turned and wouldn't talk to him. she was getting ready to retire. and just you know ef even a few weeks ago, she said i'm getting ready to retire. there's a few things i want to do before i retire. i think i was on the list. >> any chance of you suing her or the city for this disclosure. >> we're talking to some attorneys about that right now and we'll see. but i think the big picture is protecting juvenile's records. and i think that's something that we want to be an advocate for protecting juvenile records because of the mistakes that

juveniles make when they're young should be sealed. >> how is this -- this isn't so much focused on your son. how has this affected your daughters, the release of this information. >> i think our daughters have you know, they were shocked to hear this. it's something that crushed them at first. >> they did not want this out publicly? >> no, they didn't want this out. no victim wants their record or their minor story to be told. every victim should have the right to tell their own story, not a tabloid. >> the main charge we've heard from your critics has been they are hypocrites. they preached family values. josh once said we are the epitome of conservative values. and, yet, they had this secret and they weren't honest with the world about who they were. >> i don't think you'd go up to total strangers and say hi my name is so and so and i want you to know what i did as a child

and share everything about your past. every family has things happen in the families. and some families may have darker things than others, but everybody has something. >> what about what -- what the critics are going for is that you shouldn't have bchbeen preaching about moral values when you had a secret like this in your own family. that you shouldn't be calling other people sinners when you, yourself, are sinners. >> our son violated god's principles of doing some improper touching. that was terrible. but, yet, i think it's been said that what josh did was inexcuse inexcusable inexcusable, but not unforgiven. >> michelle, pletlet me ask you, you were in the news for making a robo call that suggested transgender people might want to

go in the bathroom of locker room of girls and that they may be child molesters. folks have used that in the past week against you saying how could you unfairly in their view compare transgendered people to child molesters, suggesting that they are child molesters, knowing what you know about josh? >> i think that protecting young girls and not allowing young men and men in general to go into a girl's locker room is just common sense. >> but this is different because you injected child molestation into it. >> i think you said pedophile. pedophile is an adult that preys on children. josh was 14 and had just turned 15 when he did it. but he was a child preying on a child. >> you do not view josh as a pedophile. >> no. >> what i'm asking you, is can you understand the critics' reaction to this news. >> i can understand it.

but i know that every one of us have done things wrong. i feel like this is more about there's an agenda and there's people that are purposing to bring things out and twist things to hurt and slander. >> so were the duggers targeted by the tabloids because of their christian believes? they answer that question and talk about the future when we come back. heir christian beliefs? they answer that question and talk about the future >> what happens to the duggers from here?

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so so what's next for the duggars and their show? and do they feel their beliefs made them a target? watch. >> do you think that the backlash against the duggars has been greater because people object to who you are and what you stand for? >> i think some out there do. >> yeah. >> do you think in particular

your christian beliefs are at issue here? >> i think as people on the outside think, well christians are supposed to be perfect. they're supposed to say, you're supposed to live this perfect life. no you know what? all of us as christians we struggle every day. >> what happens to the duggars from here? >> i don't know if the rest of our family should be punished for the act of one of our children stuff that happened 12 years ago or not, but, you know we are fine whether they film this or not. we're going to go on and live life. we're going to go on and serve god and make a difference in the world. >> enjoy our children and our grandchildren and continue on with life. either way, we're at peace. >> do you think the show will cancel? has tlc given you any indication? >> at this point, our family is trying to regroup from these attacks. when you're in every newspaper, everything around the world it's been an unprecedented

attack on our family. and this informations was released illegally. so i'm wondering why all this press is not going after the system for releasing juvenile records. that is a huge story. now what our son did 12 years ago, is i'm sure it's a major story to them too. but hopefully justice will be served on the ones that released juvenile records to protect other juveniles from their records being released. >> it must have been terrible. i'm sure you're going through hell right now. >> i think what's devastating as a mama for me we took our children not safety center the children's safety center. we trusted them. we took them to the police department. our children poured out their hearts. they shared everything. and then to have their trust betrayed and for all of their information and everything they shared to be turned over to a tabloid, for those things to be twisted and, and shared in a

slanderous way, story after story, tabloid after tabloid, as a mom, that breaks my heart for my girls, because i think this is such a horrible they've been victimized more by what has happened in these last couple weeks, than they were 12 years ago, because they honestly they didn't understand or know that anything had happened until after the fact when they were told about it. and so i think, there's not, we, in our hearts before god, we haven't been keeping secrets. we have been protecting those that honestly, should be protected. and now what's happened is they've been victimized. but people with an agenda and a, for whatever profit they think they're going to gelt that in this, one thing i know is ha god is going to use all of this for good. >> michelle jim bob. thank you so much. >> thank you for telling our

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offenders are male. 85 to 90% of them are never arrested for sex crimes again. if you know a victim in need of help call the national abuse child hotline. and in a stunning followup to our interview, we sat down with two of josh duggar's sisters today. it is a remarkable exchange with jill and jessa who discuss what josh did to them and what they felt when they learned that their story had gone national. >> they can't do this to us. >> and yet they did. >> and they did. >> this was something done to protect kids? both those who make mistakes or have problems and the ones that are affected by those choices. it's greatly failed.

>> our sit-down with the duggar sisters airs friday night at 9:00 eastern. we want to hear your thoughts. follow me on twitter @meagan kelly. hi i'm greg gutfeld. one of the great things about being a host, you get to join the host club. it's totally exclusive. nobody knows about it. i conditions know where it was until now. here it is. let's check it out. hello? hello? >> all right, all right. all right. i like this. i like this. >> i can do it. >> this is where all you guys hang out? i have a new show. i'm actually a new host. i have my own