>> time now for "sunday house call." >> hello, everyone. welcome. joining us dr. marc siegel. author of the inner pulse, unlocking the secret code of sickness and health. >> and dr. david samadi. chief of robotics surgery. good to see you both. >> you've always had some type of viral infection. remember what you had? the measles or the mumps or whatever else? now the new blood test may allow doctors to trace the exact

viruses we've been exposed to. are they going to find out everything about me? >> not everything. i want to start by what is a virus. is virus is a tiny packet of genetic material. once it's in the body, we can't see it until it makes you sick but there's something called a sub clinical infection where you're not sick and you may have been exposed to it but i need to know if you've seen the virus before because those viruses can lead to auto immune diseases and cancer and all kinds of problems. i look at it this way. it's like a crime scene. you want to know who the perpetrator is and you follow the suspect. these days we check dna at the crime scene. we don't have to do all that investigation now. we figure out from the dna who all the possible suspects are and then we line it up. that's what this is. it's not ready for prime time.

it's just in research out of a big study out of harvard. it was looked at in south africa, asia, the united states, and in south america they looked at 569 people. that's just the beginning. it's not going to be in the doctor's office for a couple of years but when it is, i can map you and show you what you've been exposed to. >> would it help doctors avoid misdiagnosing? >> that's a good point. the name of this is vir scan. and what they do is they basically take one part of your blood and look at what you've been exposed to. normally you would look for one time. someone will come worried about hepatitis. imagine now we can look for 206 viruses with one cc of blood. it's all about predicting what's

coming up which is what you just said. if i can predict what you can, then i can prevent it. that's what it is. somebody is exposed to hvp. that's important because they can get cervical cancer. if i can find out ahead of time, i'm going to screen for cervical cancer. if you have h hiv, you're brokened to ore cancerther canc. prediction, prevention and then personalized medicine. $25 is the price of this test. it will be out in the market in about a year from now. >> what do you do now? you test for each one of the viruss? >> yes. you do it on a virus by virus basis. i want you to understand what we test for. we test for something called anti-bodies. when you have a virus or bacteria, your body makes anti bodies. we can look in the past and see

what viruses you had as a kid. right now we do it virus by virus. >> the potential for this is also tapping into a lot of inflammatory bowel decide a arthritis problems and things like that. that's the future of medicine. >> how so? >> a lot of these anti-bodies mark is talking about, inflammatory cells floating in the glad, you don't know because by the time you have the symptoms, the disease is here and it's too late. the concept is we find it early on and look for that. and that personalized medicine is the wave of the future. on the average, when they looked at the series of these 5 560. in america there was an average of ten viruses. you may have ten. mark probably has 15 or 20. people in other countries had more viruses than the u.s. >> do we have these ten every day? >> no. you're exposed to more than

that. these are the main groups of viruses but there's subtypes that you may have been exposed to. >> can i have lots of viruss in me right now and not about it? >> that's the point. there are silent viruses. somebody may have hpv with no symptoms or hiv and not know about it but this will detect and we can help them. >> it will save a lot of 911 in the health care cost as well. >> right because you can predict in advance. let's take a disease like multiple sclerosis. we know it's an auto immune disease. we know a various probably caused it but we've never been able to find out the virus. with this kind of a test, we can actually find the virus that caused it in the first place. as david mentioned, if we find it in advance, we may be able to prevent ms or diabetes or inflammatory bowel disease. >> that's amazing. >> you both pointed out we could be exposed to viruses and not

even know it and when this is available, we can find out. >> especially for women with cervical cancer, this is a huge role. hpv with float around. men and women may have it without knowing and you can prevent pe nile and cervical cancer. for a $25 test, this is a no brainer. >> when it becomes available, would you as a patient have to request it? >> i hope not. i think it's something routinely used in the doctor's office. >> we have a quick programming note. last week you may have seen a segment on new research on ptsd. we want to give a little more information and give credit and tell you the department of defense does have a major leadership role in this in ptsd in research and they provide substantial amount of funding in dealing with those who serve and have given so much.

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well, the cdc releasing its newest report on the current status of skin cancer rates in the united states. showing the number of people diagnosed with the disease has doubled over the last 30 years. doubled over the last 30 years. is it because more people are simply heating the beach or is something else happening? >> >> this is not good news for us. skin cancer is the most common type of cancer and it's a little bit of a combination that you described.

people are not paying attention to covering themselves. 90% of the risk factor is what you see right now. it's ultra violate light. and despite what we've seen, we see the rates are still up. we see about 65,000 new cases of mel know in a. in the next 15 years, that could go up to 100,000. if you inspect it early and you find it early and the recommendation is to see a dermatologist once a year so they look at the entire skin, that's the way to go. what i want people to know which is very important and we've said it before is the a., b., c. of skin cancer. you should go see a doctor. besides the skin, obviously

being male and fair skinned and freckles, older people, exposure to ultraviolet and some precancerous lesions, these are risk pafactors or the skin canc. >> we're talking about screening. it's mainly the young people who are out there with little clothes on having the most exposure of the sun. is there a age you're too young to get screened? >> not really. younger people, it's women more than men and over 50 men more than women. i want to add what david said about what you look for. the e and it is enlaunching. you're looking for something that's unusually shaped, large, because they're pretty large when you first see them. different colors to them, and that the borders are irregular and it's getting bigger. they come to me as an internist, i send them to a dermatologist. we've been trying to prevent

this. we're talking about sunscreen and hats and full clothes. if you're fair skinned, we are really on the lookout for these and yet, they're getting worse and worse, and by the way, when a dermatologist starts to look at a melanoma they want to know how deep it is. if it spreads to other organs, we have a problem and we have to get oncologists on board. when it gets to that point, it's really quite deadly. what is the reason this is happening? >> >> well, i think this is a very good question you're bringing up and we know that ultraviolet is the main reason. i think sunscreen, not having enough is a issue. there are a lot of red, peale lesions you might have. no you would not pay attention to it. it could be behind the ear.

a good dermatologist can detect them and prevent them from becoming a real melanoma. apply sunscreen and certainly in the midday. >> what about stay out of it. you talk about sunscreen. people put it on once and think they're done for the day. >> especially when you're in the water. you have to reapply it. it tends to occur in areas you're not looking for it. in the scalp, on the ears, on the legs. in the pubic area. you don't know where you're going to see it and so you have to be looking, on your bikini line. >> you go to the beach and you think that okay, i'm going to use it at the beach. you can be walking around at the mall and going to the parking lot and you're getting exposed. >> or even on the days that are exposed. the two of you that are lighter skinned are at higher risk and

then me, and then you're well protected buzz your pigmentation protects you. >> however, i can get it. >> that's exactly my point. you have to apply sunscreen. broad spectrum. >> you may be more likely to find it as well. and in terms of activities, we say the beach. i was on my beoat yesterday. i forgot to put on the sunscreen. bbq, sunscreen. david just said in the shade, sunscreen. >> i'm going to refuse to look for a bikini line. >> i don't have a bikini line. on a serious note, just a throw it out for there for the sake of conversation. if, in fact, the oh zone layer is getting thinner, i don't care. i'm going to say this, then perhaps we should start looking at a different formula for sunscreen that deals with the more exposure coming through. >> that's in europe. europe has better sunscreens than us and they have -- >> can you get it in america.

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and back now to "sunday house call." we talk about everything that worries us. one viewer writes, quote, i'm on

an 81 milligram aspirin regimen. i get headaches so i take ie should i worry. >> if you're taking it every day, you should worry. if you take it occasionally, wouldn't worry. it can damage the bowel, especially in drinkers, it is a big problem. i don't like the idea of taking own pro ibuprofen every day. on top of that, you're talking about ibuprofen plus aspirin. we use aspirin to protect the heart and protect against a stroke, not in everybody, but in select groups over the age of 50. but the problem is ibuprofen may deant separate th deactivate that. if y you can't take it for eight hours before. keep them separate. don't take them at the same time. >> this is actually the very good point. and i think it is a good idea to

repeat what he just said. a lot of patients are taking 81 milligram of aspirin because it has a cardiac protection factor. that's debatable. i still think not everybody should be on aspirin. i'll see what mark has to say. if you're taking aspirin and combine that with ibuprofen, together they are competing for the same kind of receptor and ibuprofen can knock the aspirin out and you basically don't get the full effects of aspirin to protect your heart and stroke. so people may be taking it saying i'm safe and when you combine it with alcohol and other things, you put a huge load on the liver and cause a problem. should everyone take 81 milligram of aspirin, which is what people need to know. >> not everybody. people who already had a heart attack or stroke, people at risk, people at high risk, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, those at high risk, yes. everybody that is going out there and taking it is putting themselves at risk for a bleed.

over 100,000 people go to the er every year because of bleed from aspirin or ib proefen. >> this is an important point. you ask them, why are you taking aspirin? my neighbor is taking it. not good science. increases the risk of bleeding and colon -- >> it thins your blood a little bit. it can make you out there. >> no question that low dose aspirin can you whether with colon cancer. a lot of studies out there about this. should everyone be on low dose aspirin, the answer is no. >> i agree. your doctor has to -- not prescribe it but endorse it. >> dr. siegel had no idea that advil could cause inflammation. pardon me, retain fluid. >> retain fluid from it, absolutely. it interferes with the kidney getting rid of fluid. bring fluid back and it can damage your heart. >> if you take the ibuprofen first, got to wait eight hours.

>> this makes sense. advil can -- >> you know something, you have a lot of other things, you can do swimming, you can do yoga, meditation, a lot of these science pains is all from stress. and popping pills is not the way to go. >> all right. >> we'll get to that -- >> we'll have a debate on twitter about this. >> we bring it all to you. okay. we're going to talk about this when we come back. is one of the most popular cosmetic procedures, but now one state is cracking down on who is allowed to perform teeth whitening. ♪ when you're living with diabetes, steady is exciting. only glucerna has carbsteady, clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. so you stay steady ahead.

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he needed help all day so i adopted him.st dog in the shelter. when my back pain flared up, i thought i'd have to give him away. i tried tylenol but it was 6 pills a day. with aleve it's just 2 pills, all day. now i'm back! aleve. all day strong. and welcome back. according to alabama, issuing a major ruling about a common beauty treatment saying those popular teeth whitening procedures should only be performed by licensed dentists. dr. siegel, lots of questions here, because we can now go to the drugstore and get strips. are we talking about strips or if you go to one of those places where they do this kind of stuff to you, hard core whitening. >> that's where you start. the dentist with the hard core whitening. what the american dental association is saying is that

dentists should recommend all of this stuff, just don't go to your pharmacy and pick up -- something called -- up to 10% the ada is saying is safe. but don't pick up the whitening strips yourself, they want your dentist to say it is okay. it is what we're saying here. check with your doctor first. then go with those. the carbonite peroxide, there is concern about teeth sensitivity and gum sensitivity. there is no evidence that the products we showed cause long-term problems. i think whiteners are okay, provided your dentist is in the loop. the ones in the office much more powerful. >> i think this is a big debate. i'm in the going to take a stand on this. but i think a lot of people say in alabama, the supreme court basically said if you want to get any of this done, you should go to see a dentist. i personally think seeing your dentist once a year, twice a year to examine the gum, making sure there is no gingivitis is

important. this is going to cause more pain and more issues. now, the argument against going to doctors all the time, for simple, you know, whitening your teeth is you can go to cvs or any of these places and you can get your whitening gel, or strip, or toothpaste, and that's about 10% hydrogen peroxide and works well. the key is not to leave those strips for a long time because longer is not better. it is going to cause sensitivity. but to go to doctors and for simple things like this, it can increase the cost and this is a big debate. >> you made a great point before we came on here, you're saying the lasers don't work, right? they don't add anything. only the whiteners, the dentist uses while the e s the whitener >> a lot of the procedures, like lasers, you should go to the doctor. those should be in the hands of dentists. for, you know, toothpaste or a strip, those kind of things, you don't need to go to the doctor.

same argument against vitamins and should they be written by doctors. >> anybody pulls out a laser in the basement, don't do it. >> more next week. the manhunt is on after a prison break that sounds like it is straight out of the movies. two convicted murderers have an elaborate plan to break out of a maximum security prison. now law enforcement hot on their trail. a live report coming up. top lawmakers blast the obama administration's response for reports chinese hackers gained access to the personnel records of america's spies. >> personnel management is a real attractive target. it represents the holy grail of access within the united states government. >> coming up, how the chinese could use the information they got to fake their way into more secure computers and threaten national security.