miss tweet it to us. that's it for this week's show. thank you to my panel and for all of you for watching. hope to see you here next week. ♪ >> time for "sunday house call." >> marc siegel, professor of medicine at nyu and author of the inner pulse, unlocking the secret code of sickness and health. >> and dr. david samadi professor at lenoxville hospital and chief of robotics surgery. good to see you. >> you have always had some type of viral infection. remember what you had? the meez les or mumps of whatever else we used to get? a new blood test can allow

doctors to trace the viruses that we have been exposed to. dr. siegel, they are going to find out everything about me and know what i have got. >> not everything but find out what you are infected. a virus is a tiny packet of genetic material. rna or dna. genetic material. what's it is in the body we can't see it until it makes you sick. there is a sub clinical infection where you are not yet sick. you may have been exposed to it and may never be sick but i need to know whether you have seen a virus before, because those viruses hidden in your body can lead to auto immune diseases, cancer, all kinds of problems. i look at it this way -- it's like a crime scene. if you were at a crime scene you want to know who the perpetrator is, you follow the suspect, right? these days we check dna at the crime scene. so we don't have to do all of the investigation now. we figure out from the dna who

all the possible suspects are and line them up. that's what this is. it is not ready for primetime. just in research out of a big study at harvard. it was looked out at south africa, asia, the united states and in south america. they looked at 569 people. that's just the beginning. not going to be in the doctor's office for a couple of years but when it is i can map you and tell you what you have been exposed to. >> wouldn't that be great for doctors, would it help doctors avoid misdiagnosing? >> that's a good point. i think the test is about -- the name of this is virscan virsc v-i-r-s-c-a v-i-r-s-c-a-n. they take your blood and can look at the history of what viruses you have been exposed to. normally when someone comes to the office you look for one type, someone will come for hiv test, worried about hepatitis. now we can look for 206 viruses with one cc of blood. virscan is the name.

why this is important is because it is all about predicting what's coming up which is is what you said. if i can predict what you have then i can prevent it, which is exactly what it is. somebody is exposed to hpv. why is that important because they can get cervical cancer. if i find out ahead of time they have hpv i screen for cervical cancer. if you have hiv you are prone to other cancers, et cetera. hepatitis c can give you liver cancer. this is absolutely important. prediction, prevention and personalized medicine which is what we look for. $25 is the price of the test. it will probably be out in the market in about a year from now. >> what do you have to do now? do you have to test for each one of those viruses right now? >> yes. you have to do it on a virus-by-virus basis. i want you to understand what we test for. we test for antibodies. when you have a virus or bacteria, your body makes antibodies to it. those antibodies can stay around

for decades. we can look in the past and see what viruses you had as a kid. right now we have to do it virus by virus. >> the potential is not just viruses and cancers but we can tap in to inflammatory bowel disease and arthritic conditions and that's the future of medicine. >> how so? >> a lot of antibodies that marc is talking about, inflammatory cells in the blood you don't know. by the time you have abdominal pain or weight loss, the disease is here and it's too late. the concept is we find it early on, we know the history of this and look for that. that personalized medicine is the way of the future because your viruses -- on the average, by the way, when they looked at the series of this 560, in america there were an averages of ten viruses. you have ten, marc probably has 15 or 20. people in peru and south america had more viruss.

>> ten every day like right now. >> you are exposed to more than that. these are main groups of viruses but there are subtypes, many thousands of subtypes you may have been exposed to. >> can i have a lot of viruses in me and not know about them? >> that's the point of this. there are silent viruses. somebody may have hpv and no symptoms or hiv and may not know about it but this will detect and we can help them. >> it will save a lot of money in health care costs as well. >> because you can predict in advance. take a disease like multiple sclerosis. we know it is an auto immune disease where the immune system attacks the brain. we know a virus probably caused it but never found out the virus. with this test we can play sherlock holmes and find the virus that caused ms in the first place. as david mentioned, if we find it in advance we may be able to prevent mrk s or diabetes or inflammatory bowel disease.

>> that's amazing. >> you point out we could be exposed to viruses and not know it and in a couple of years when this is available we will find out. >> especially for women with cervical cancer i think this plays a huge role. hpv virus can float around in adults, men and women can have it and you can prevent penile cancer and cervical cancer and for a 2 a -- $25 test. >> when it is available it will be routinely used in the doctor's office. >> a quick programming note. last week you may have seen a segment. new research on post traumatic stress disorder in our veterans. today we want to give more information about that and give credit where credit is due and tell you the department of defense does have a major leadership role in this in

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well, the cdc releasing its well with, the cdc releasing its newest report on the current status of melanoma or skin cancer rates in the united states showing the number of people diagnosed with the disease has doubled over the last 30 years, doubled over the last 30 years. is that because more people are hitting the beach, or is there something more insidious happening? >> this is not good news for us. skin cancer is the most common

type of cancer and probably a combination of what you described. people are not paying attention to covering themselves or being exposed. 90% of the risk factor is ultraviolet light. despite everything we have said on the show and doctors have encouraged we see the rates are up. 65 thousand new cases of melanoma which in the next 10 to 15 years could go to 100,000. we are spending close to $500 million in just taking care of melanoma, which is a deadly disease. if you inspect it early and find it early and the recommendation is to see a dermatologist once a year so they look at the entire skin, that's the way to go. i want people to know, which is important, we have said it many times is that the abcd of melanoma. if you put a line across any regi region, irregular borders,

change of colors and six millimeters. and pale skin, freckles, older people and some precancerous lesions which is a big name, these are risk factors for skin cancer. >> we are talking an screening patients for possible skin cancer. ironically it is mainly young people who are out there with little clothes on having the most expose sure to the sun. is there an age when you are too young to be screened for skin cancer? >> not really. in younger people it is women more than men and over 50 men more than women. so it turns around. i want to add to what david said you look for. the e in abc de is enlarging. unusually shaped, large because they are pretty large when you first see them, different colors to them and the borders are irregular but it is getting bigger. anything like that -- they come to me as an internist and i send them to a dermatologist.

anything unusual looking to your skin. we have been trying like heck to prevent this. we are talking about sunscreen, hats, we're talking about full clothes. if you have freckles, fair skinned. we are on the lookout for these. yet they are getting worse and worse. by the way, when a dermatologist starts to look at a melanoma, they want to know how deep it is and could it have spread to other organs. because fit spreads we really have a problem. immunotherapy, and when it is at that point it is quite deadly. david, what is the reason this is happening? >> this is a good question. we know ultraviolet is the main reason. whether people apply enough sunscreen, that expose sure is a problem but the point you are bringing up, there are a lot of red, pale, scaly lesions that you may have. something like keratosis where

it you would not pay attention to it. it could be behind the ear, the side of the leg s. a good dermatologist could prevent it from becoming melanoma. applying sunscreen certainly in the midday where the sun is strong. >> the other thing you talk about sunscreen, people put it on once and you think you are done for the day. you are not. it should be every two hours. >> especially when you are in the water. i want to emphasize another point. it occurs in areas you are not looking for it. on the scalp, ears, legs, in the pubic area. you don't know where you will see it. on your bikini line. you have to look for it places you wouldn't expect. >> you go to the beach and think, okay, i'm going to use it at the beach, you can be walking in the mall, going to the parking lot and you get exposure. >> and on cloudy days you still get exposure. but out of the four of us the two with lighter skin is higher

risk and then me with olive skin and you are well protected because the pigmentation covers you from the risk of getting this kind of cancer. >> however, i can. >> that's my point. >> it maybe more apparent. she maybe less likely to find it. everyone thinks and we say over and over, the beach, the beach. i was on my boat yesterday and forget to put the sunscreen on. barbecue, sunscreen. david said n the shade sunscreen. >> i'm going to refuse to look for a bikini line. >> i don't have bikini lines. no, no. serious note. just to throw it out there for the sake of conversation, if in fact the ozone layer is getting thinner. >> oh, boy. >> i don't care. i'm going to say this. then perhaps we should look at a different formula for sun screen that deals with the more expose sure that's coming through. >> that's in europe. europe has better sunscreens and

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on an 81-milligram aspirin regimen, but i heard that taking buy provens and aspirin can be dangerous. should i worry. >> if you're taking it every day, i would worry. but once in a while i don't worry. i worry about ibuprofen, because it did damage the kidneys, can damage the liver and especially the bowel, especially in drinkers, so i don't ever like the idea of taking ibuprofen every today. on top of that, talking about ibuprofen and aspirin. we use aspirin to protect the heart and protect you against the stroke. now in everything, but certainly in select groups, but the problem is ibuprofen may deactivate that. you can't take it for eight hours before. keep they separate. >> this is actually a very good point.

>> that is debatable. i'll see what mark has to say, but if you are taking aspirin and combine that with ibuprofen, they're competing for the same receptor, and ibuprofen can knock the aspirin out and you basically don't get the full effect to protect your heart and stroke. also, when you combine it, you call a problem. i think once in a while it's okay, but the big question, should -- is what people need to know. people that are at high risk, diabetes, those at high risk, yes, but everybody that's just going out there and taking it is

putting them at risk for a bleed. over 100,000 because of bleed from aspirin or ibuprofen. >> you ask them why are you taking aspirin? because my neighbor is taking it, knock a good sign. >> it has been shown it thins your blood a bit, so it makes you healthier? >> no question that low-dose with had emwith aspirin, and there are a lot of studies, but should everyone be on low-dose aspirin? not everyone. >> certainly your doctor should endorse it. >> advil could call inflammation -- could you me -- retain fluid. >> because it interferes with the kidney getting rid of fluid. >> so if you take both, wait a half hour -- >> if you take the aspirin, before you take the ibuprofen. if you take the ibuprofen first,

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whitening. what the dental association is saying is dentists should recommend all this stuff, just don't go carbomight they say is safe d. they want your dentists to say. it's what we're saying here, check with your doctor first. it becomes hydrogen peroxide, there's some concern about teeth sentence activity and gum sensitivity. there's no evidence that the products we show caused long-term problems, so i think white energy are okay, provided that your dentist is in the loop. the ones in the office are much more powerful. >> i think this is a big debate and i'm not going to take a stand on it, but especially in alabama, the supreme court said if you want any of these done, you should see a dentist. i personally seeing a dentist once a year, twice a year to examine the gum, making sure there's no gingivitis, going to

the doctor all the time to whiten your teeth, you can go to cvs or any of the these places are and get the whitening strips, and that's about 10% heed rho gen peroxide. the key is not to leave those strips for a long time, because longer is not better. it's going to cause sensitivity, et cetera, but to go to doctors for simple things like this, it can increase the cost and could be -- so this is the big debate. >> made a great point before, where you're saying the lasers don't work. only the -- the dentist uses these white ner, the lasers don't add anything? >> i think for a lot of these procedures, you should go to the doctor, those should be done in the hands of dentists. for simple things such as, you know, toothpaste or strips, those kinds of things, you don't

really need to go to the doctor. same argument against vitamins, and anybody pulls out a laser in the basement, don't do it. >> whitening is toothpaste is -- or -- more next week. \s manhunt now under way for two convicted killers who escaped from maximum security prison in upstate new york. david sweat serving a life sentence for killing a sheriff's deputy, richard mac serving 25 years to life for kidnapping and murder. now there are growing questions about how exactly they pulled it off. hello, everyone, this is america's news headquarters. thank you for joining us. hello, everyone. the breakout is being -- the two hardened criminals use power tools to make their way out of the correctional facility about 20 miles from the canadian