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and it's an incredibly interesting subject matter that you guys tackled. >> trying to make sure that we understand that the left is trying to shut down debate in america and that's what it's all about. and america loves its fun. and at this time we will tell people how to get there. we are awaiting the white house briefing at the bottom of the hour. including how to defeat the islamic state terrorist army. when he admitted that he still does not have a complete strategy to take them out. he is now wearing the pentagon's request to send additional trainers to iraq. it's been one year to the day cents isis shocked many by capturing one of the last

largest ditties. >> we are fighting and optimizing us. you know we have in a need of refining. we have this effort to train and equip and offer advice and assistance to iraqi security forces. and so this will be an ongoing process. harris: ito it completely goes with it or doesn't. the pentagon says of the strategy may not be working in the white house says that there's no complete strategy. >> i think that the word that i would use his incoherence. what is art government trying to

do here i just think it is so disheartening to see the commander-in-chief a year ago come out and say okay, we don't have a strategy. this week he comes out and that we don't have a complete strategy. and he's talking about this just like he has no responsibility for it sometimes. americans sit back and say that is a real lack of leadership. >> one of the things he's not doing is reminding what is at stake. we are getting stuck on the word in this demented to where we are with strategy. these are the facts, roughly 3080 u.s. troops doing this training right now. they are requesting 400 more. we already have more than the number of iraqis being trained right now by the u.s. forces.

>> and it takes a lot of time. even with adequate training and wonderful intentions that doesn't necessarily bear fruit. i think that the president likes it when we are stuck. i really think that he uses that to his advantage and then he just waves the other party for rattling this. but sure, it's difficult to come up with a strategy against them in iraq, in syria all these other places. but don't give up on the country. you owe it to the people of the united states of america to appear like you're doing your job and that you haven't given up. harris: what does this say that we have more in the game than the iraqis do? if we have more u.s. troops on the ground sending potentially 400 more, and they have roughly 2600 that are being trained. will we hear what they say about the request?

>> he is really good about giving speeches we have seen the president of compelling speeches and make a case for drawing down the war in the middle east and afghanistan. he did that before, he declared the war on terror over. so how do we know that he can put together a very detailed timeline and strategy when he wants to reed and he did. we telegraph that the world. why he's not standing up and making the case because he's very good at getting into the bully pulpit and doing it is beyond me. tell us why. give us your strategy rather than say that we don't have one when the dod is saying that we will. and i think it's a real -- it shows that he wants these presidential contenders to take the ball from him. because if he can run out the clock with just enough time, these other candidates will take over the debate on what to do. harris: i wonder how hillary clinton feels about that.

>> i want to rule out because could the u.s. possibly not be answering the question or if there is one, just not tell what the strategy is? >> that would be a charitable explanation. but if that were the case, you would think that we wouldn't have spent the last year seeking isis continue to make games. if we do have a secret strategy it isn't working. >> even if they are considering using those troops in a different way or increasing their role to increase the accuracy, it seems to be focused on right now. but josh earnest, in his reply i don't know about you guys but i talk about this and i have something almost perfect. so there's not really a strategy

that is outlined by the white house right now. so how can he be talking about refining the strategy? >> you have been saying this about the iraqi forces. we need to find ways to give them more confidence. this is their country. >> were they fighting for? what are you doing putting a uniform on someone like where is your passion? if i was the president i would like to see some compassion from him. instead of excuse makers saying that we are putting the final touches on things. and it's like that is not acceptable. that is a strategy and you can still be passionate about that. >> we know that the appetite for war in this country is waning. it's going away. people are very open about the fact that we have spent so much particularly in iraq.

>> i think that if we would have gone into iraq and remove him from power based on intelligence that we had it if we didn't find the weapons and we laughed, i think that there could be a different feeling in the united states of america. i think that people are tired of seeing lives lost. as you point out, the iraqis are not even fighting for their country. they give up their weapons and they run the other way. so why are americans dying for this? something they're not willing to save? i mean i think the american electorate is very savvy on this issue. when they have a commander-in-chief that doesn't leave, why should this and their children to that reign. >> where are they going when they abandon those weapons? >> i guess it's the sensitivity that people will get stuck on her. but then the other question has

to do with a sectarian war that's been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. and you know, we are not training any iraqis. they are not willing to train with us. you have a iran on the ground, another government, they are looking at this. and they are saying that we are going to have to convince them to fight and i could take a long time. >> hearts and minds come it goes back to democracy and if you really cared about her why did we let it fall in the first place two that is why we make a compelling case to go back and get it now. >> that's also admission of failure going back to the part of the president. >> okay, we are going to watch this. what makes news we are going to bring it to you. no doubt the first question is going to be honest.

and as we await a supreme court decision that could potentially got obamacare. health and human services secretary sylvia burwell on the hot seat defending legislation before lawmakers say it's a failure. what happened when she was asked repeatedly what the obama administration will do if the supreme court strikes down the subsidies? we have a lot going on this morning. and the so-called food police getting busy in several major cities. and the plan is in work to target sodium in one spot and soda pop in another. a way to make americans thinner and healthier. and there's more on "outnumbered", fox news.com news.com/outnumbered. we love it when you tune in and chime in on mine.

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pentagon is asking for. this typically what we've been told is that they would have a training and advisory role only. 3080 u.s. troops on the ground reportedly we are going to add to that. that will make the number again bigger than the number of the people that were actually training their. we just want to put that in context. the white house press briefing doing 15 minutes. but this is the headline. no doubt we will bring you news from the briefing as it happens. >> a supreme court decision being awaited for obamacare that could cause millions of americans to lose their health insurance. a contentious hearing on capitol hill just wrapping up. sylvia burwell talking about the affordable care act.

>> i thought her testimony was coming days after president obama said that he had no plan b. at the start of testimony, it did get heated. watch what happened when the house ways and means committee paul ryan asked secretary burwell with the obama administration is going to do if the subsidies are struck down by the court. >> critical decisions will sit with the congress and states and governors to determine if the subsidies are available. >> the question is is the president going to say i have this one-page deal, take it my way or the highway is that going to be their position enact or is the administration going to be willing to work with congress to find a way to get more health care freedom? >> the marketplace is a market. it uses private insurers. >> the question is what will the administration do? >> the problem is they have made

a decision. harris: while the obama administration refuses to start an alternative, senate republicans will be ready with a plan. >> depending on what the supreme court decides we will have a proposal that protects the american people from a very bad lot. obamacare was the single worst piece of legislation that has been passim last five centuries. you're understanding that deductibles and premiums are going up. what we will do is offer a proposal to protect the american people. harris: you're going to have to make some sense of this for me. the supreme court should strike us down but they don't have a backup plan to fix it if they do. democrats for the administration

is confident that the supreme court is going to leave everything as it is. >> just come it's going to be interesting to see what happens in this decision and neither party is showing all of its cards just yet. the republicans say that there's a plan. when that interview continued he was seeking some clarification from senator mcconnell and i would not put it past him. i think they probably have some sort of a plan. if the subsidies get thrown out, that is how it fits signed by the president and this is 100% on them if they strike it down because that is what they wrote what they are going to try to do is blame republicans. republicans need to be ready for that talking point with an alternative. >> that is the point, they are not saying that they have a

contingency plan. >> paul ryan is one of the individuals with does have a contingent a plan. i'm wondering why they can't share with us now. >> there's a lot of things that they can do getting rid of the mandate for pregnancy services for women under 55 years old and also they could open up state lines they could do a lot of different things. but i think that this is a fight that the white house fears that it's going to lose and they want this fight meaning that they're going to lose the supreme court battle that they want this political fight to use against republicans as a major wedge issue. >> i think that the republicans are being as critical as nancy pelosi was. let us know let americans decide, i that's part of the problems that we have. our choices have been diminished not only in health care but responses to the crises that it's growing. >> by the way, this is an unpopular law.

all-time low last week. because premiums and cost are going up for american that are the opposite of affordable care act. >> with the premiums rising health care choices are still going down. >> we will be watching. harris: for now, more on where we started in a story that continuing to develop. via the white house and decisions of what to do with u.s. troops in iraq. and i confirm that for you just moments ago. 450 additional troops we have learned. this is what else the president has been saying. it's still do 10 minutes away but is coming it is coming out of the white house ahead of that. so the president reporting has extradited weaponry and equipment materials to iraqi forces to include the sunni forces and peshmerga forces in the far north of iraq.

and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff have been saying that we have to figure out how to raise their confidence and get them into the game. well, if you give them the weapons of the prime minister has said that they need over in iraq, perhaps i would do it. we are watching a part of that story as well. as the white house briefing starts and josh earnest steps of gillette turn, we will bring it to you after the commercial break i love making sunday dinners. but when my back hurt, cooking all day... forget about it. tylenol was ok, but it was 6 pills a day. but aleve is just 2 pills all day.

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"the new york times" today attacked him because he could not afford to pay for college or arrogantly describing his debt as a financial hole of his own making. the attack is just the latest in the continued hit against marco rubio and his family. his campaign making hay by fundraising not times piece calling them silly attacks by the liberal media. and i agree with that. this is so desperate and pathetic traitor tells me that they're scared of marco rubio and it also shows what a joke that "the new york times" is to come. speeding tickets for him and his wife and i also heard that he left some tags on a mattress once and had his windows tinted in high school. i'm just kidding. >> he's a monster. if i am him, i am sending flowers and champagne to "the new york times." because there's nothing better for a republican running for office to be attacked especially in a silly way by "the new york

times." >> that would be financially irresponsible. >> that sounds like something he would do. [laughter] >> here's the other point. not only is this an opportunity for him to go head-to-head with "new york times" in an opportunity to draw contrast with hillary clinton. like oh, i got were speeding tickets in 20 years, she hasn't driven a car in 20 years. let's talk about the clinton's finances this is a win-win situation for him. harris: going to the money point, i've been having some fun on twitter. but his point about the money. the comparison about the money between marco rubio were you can say yes i went to college and i have that white americans it's tough raising a family with four kids come i wasn't born with a over a spoon, contrasting the clintons and those speeches to pay the bills come a could be a political winner. >> one half million dollars averages to about $321,000 per

year. isn't that the price tag on a lot of speeches that the clintons have gotten over the past several years? >> you're talking about a guy that has been making a pretty good living at which he had many jobs paying that amount of money and unfortunately i think he could have owned it a little bit more. he came back and sort of responded that this wasn't some fancy power boat but a fishing vessel. i don't have a lot in savings, but i have a young family. and i have bills to pay. put yourself out like the average american and anti-the best they can. >> he is. and this is a political winner. how many families have credit card debt, student loan debt small children they are still struggling. >> yes maybe i should open a college savings account, a lot of people don't have millions of dollars sitting around and the luxury of saving money for decades. after 2008 a lot of people took a financial hit. many say okay maybe the guy is

like this. steel and has anyone heard of slate magazine? owned by "the washington post"? you know i thought it was really interesting when they wrote about this. one of the writers said that this is a win-win situation. the reason is because he comes from such humble beginnings and you might not know what to do with some of that money that he gets in so he might act like a lot of those twentysomethings and so he might pay some debt and buy a car. >> i do think that he's handling it well. i think he's handled it masterfully. he showing that "the new york times" overreaches. they always overreach and then they end up looking ridiculous on us. harris: we will talk about it as it makes more news. new questions over why the medal of honor was denied to a soldier who risked his life to save

others. a former reconnaissance marine earl plumlee resented with the solar star, two levels below the medal of honor. and attack was launched on a coalition base in afghanistan. key in the conran poss militants harris: he and his comrades fought off the opposition. he was recommended for the nation's highest military award but was ultimately given a lower award. all of this happened when this officials were investigating whether he tried to sell a rifle scope all mine. it yielded no charges and an army spokeswoman saying in the case of sergeant earl plumlee, the army's senior declarations board unanimously recommended that the sergeant not be awarded the medal of honor. it would be incorrect to say that he had an award that was downgraded.

it was the silver star that recognizes acts of valor. so come into force on us. what are your thoughts? >> it boggles the mind that we sit on the couch and we have talked about these stories before. i think that the last one that had us perplexed was one was when the purple heart recipients were not getting awarded. and i don't understand that. when you're working in a government with so many people and you have a dod that is so big, and know that the va scandal is part of it is. where men and women who go to war our heroes and they seem to be missing benefits missing words. the response from the white house isn't rapid. no one is saying fixes before becomes a story. that is what we seem to have with every kind of crisis. someone would stand up and say

we have to do something about this. it's not that i'm all of these other military scandals. >> have we been that war is an issue for so long that the people who are in charge are just an exercise to do it all? >> the other thought that i have is that we live in a culture where we give kids awards in the classrooms and no one feels singled out. >> you know you have to have that perfect record an image to receive the award. well they are looking into that right now. they have this year-long review in the works and how they award act of heroism ashton carter expected to receive the recommendation, was called for by chuck hagel. but they are looking into it. i don't know the war in the position where i am not in position to judge how they are doing this. but certainly it's going to bee if they will make any changes raised on. >> ago that we suffer in military said that this was what

that. but they did examine the situation and there's a unanimous decision to give him the solar star rather than the medal of honor. the interesting question for us and we are amateurs, we are not the ones making the call, to what extent in someone's bravery is unquestionable it's an extraordinary thing. >> how much of that impact whether that person is deserving of it? >> second of all, what about the general who looks at this incident and says no, he does deserve the medal of honor. >> there was a navy cross awarded to family not too long ago as well. in that case the navy and the marine corps had recommended this medal of honor recipient and they wanted him to get it. but this was secretary robert gates denied the award amid

questions about whether that person who serve was too injured to understand what he did. and have we been up for so long as a nation that maybe we are just not understanding this? >> one of the complaints is that fighting is that there have not been enough awards for iraq and afghanistan. but it's not comparable to other wars that have been fought. >> does it draw attention to the wars is also a question? >> no, i also just remember what someone in the white house minute ration would we call him? >> honor and his action. harris: sugar and salt is the latest target of the food police. you propose warning on soda pop ads indicating high salt content. others think that it is just too much government overreach we will talk about it next.

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recommended daily value of salt. and meeting final approval this is something that supporters say will help people make healthier decisions because you're incapable of making those decisions yourself. others they that it's just too much intrusion from the state. there's been all of these reports saying that salt is necessary salt is not the enemy. it's going to keep you from getting dehydrated on a hot day when you're out for a run. that you need salt. with these people seem to do is kill the fun. >> that is what we write about. how these nannies, whether it's the food police or the thought police or the language police, they are not just making the country are less free place to live but it's cramping our style little bit. you're right, the government was wrong about salt for many years about what was healthy and what wasn't healthy. we are adult human beings we can make decisions about what

totally want to drink. we know that it's not good for us. but delicious and we will make choices as free people about what we want to eat and drink. to have these bureaucrats coming in with their new plans no advertisements on public land. it's just -- big killjoy. >> it's making us less free. it's also making us less healthy. isn't there something about joy and result? >> salt equals freedom. more saltshaker is next to an item, that's what i'm going to order. >> but to their point, they don't trust us to our own devices. especially in new york it has its own health care exchange more control over the people here because if they are paying the tab, you better watch out. >> there's a direct correlation between the investment that the government feels that making in health care and the choices they would like to make.

>> you are very health conscience. and you know, going to challenge this debate. there was a study that was released and the institute for health metrics undervaluation. it's a research group that is funded by this foundation. they did a study in a 23 year time frame whereby they found that not only is it just obesity rates developing but it's hitting the emerging market and mexico's diabetes rate of 52% is up. the united states is up 71%. globally it is on the rise. some people just don't know how to eat and they do need help. >> you know you're absolutely right, we need more government interference. we need the government to wake us up every morning and they need to be told what to eat for every meal.

>> i'm not in favor of the government telling us what to eat, but i'm just paying that there is a problem and it needs to be discussed because i think rarely needs to change. >> there is a disconnect but the less people reliant on themselves and their making bad choices because they no longer trust themselves. >> there's a difference between making people aware and giving them the information and forcing them to digest it the way that you want them to digest it. we can report and they can decide. >> you are right, you have to get the information out there. i have to dietetic parents and they drink a lot of diet soda. but it has a lot of sodium. we live in a nation where we can have a conversation with a drink in the class. so what are we going to be talking about? sumac going back to the purpose of government. people forget that this is a

problem. everything is a problem. the purpose is not to use the tax code to influence behavior or be punitive. that's not the purpose of how the government was structured we have completely lost how we are supposed to operate as a nation on the federal and state and level. >> when it comes to this, it looks like the guys could be fair game as well. low hockey ratings have the players like the blackhawks. get rid of those shaggy beard and show their attractive faces. is this the answer? what have we been missing?

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>> big developments in the aurora, colorado, movie massacre. three jurors were dismissed raising questions about possible mistrial. will the judge allow the case to continue? and high price hobbies versus personal privacy. and a great guy swats his neighbors drone out of the air. now the neighbors out $1300. and is it the wave of the future in energy? harnessing the power of wind screening high in the atmosphere. one company says that it could power the world. we have it for you on the next "happening now." >> thank you. it looks like it's not just female athletes executives may be trying to as well these days. some want professional hockey players to ditch the playoff beards saying let's get their faces out there and talk about how young and attractive they

are. what model citizens they are. we will be talking about corey crawford or other players, they hardly have a monopoly on beards. check out brian wilson. and here is the red sox mike even tom brady known to go a little scruffy here and there. and these are all attractive people. >> i like beards come i guess it depends on your personal preference. i agree that he should go out the goatee. and i don't think it affects the game come i don't think it affects viewership. i don't think there's millions of americans that tune in to this for 30 seconds. >> let's face it a lot of them are missing teeth. it's kind of the look.

>> i will concede that fans may enjoy looking at them is a totally absurd suggestion it's not going to happen and they better not touch that. it's like a badge of honor. in search of the holy grail. >> it's pretty easy on the eyes. >> you know, i have just a couple of things to say. he thinks that the guys are less recognizable if they have facial hair. and that seems odd to me. that seems rather odd. and i think that this probably came from a pr thing or maybe

the media relations were telling him we want the players to look just like they do on their little cards or head shots but it is a tradition. he said that it made them less recognizable. >> they do it in baseball as well. hockey is not the other sport. >> i support mvc. i love facial hair on men i'm all for tradition and i do think that he can recognize these players but i have watched these playoffs before. and you can get so many more women and people watching. a lot of people say look at how clean-cut they are more women turning in. but i think it's very interesting. >> we should clarify.

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♪ >> well in his race for the white house, one of the big questions that is asked of hind say graham who would be his first lady. he is unmarried and said there are a few options. i have a sister and she could play that role in necessary and i have a lot of friends. we'll have a rotating first lady. historically when the president is a widower or bachelor daughters or sisters and other female relatives filled the role. so kennedy, >> why are you going to me first. >> why wouldn't i. what about a rotating first lady? >> it is a reality series based

on lindsay graham first ladyship. >> like the bacheloret. >> and will you accept this rose. that could be good and a reality show or something to raise money for charity. nnorth carolina or something. >> and for the troops. >> lindsay graham is a veteran. >> do you think this is going to hurt him or mainstream or left stream going to prod him. >> he's not going to be the nominee and it would be the issue if he was an republican nominee. i have an open mind and i don't see him being a nominee. and something to talk about in the outnumbered couch. our last bachelor president was pat buchan an. >> i thought it was bill clinton? >> he forgot he was married. >> and paula, weird.

>> and harris you know how i feel about rotating chairs. i think they cause problems. >> i feel like kennedy, why are you coming to me. i want to know why he was say this? >> he was asked. >> and that's your answer. >> and like really? >> and you running for the presidency, obviously your entire life is open. just look at marco rubio and the new york times pieces. >> i am single and the beautiful ladies in my family will stand by me. but i will rotate i don't know. >> he said i have a sister. >> it sounded like i have a sister and turnstile and like harris said they will be. maybe he is keeping his options open. >> i don't think we have to worry about that because i don't think he will make it very far. >> we'll make it from outnumbered right now in the overtime part.

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