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s. >> we rush to defend or condemn before processing what's seen and race always takes first place. each day we're greeted with a news or broader film. ugly tape that invites outrage. a fight in the store. a cop pepper spraying someone. no one records the good stuff because you can't sell that to a restless, jaded public. and that's what we are. imagine if you were doing your job a salesman a banker a plumber, and somee you 24/7. as you work he just stares and hums. and when you screw up he posts that on facebook. congratulations. you're now a cop. don't get me wrong. i'm for outing the bad ones.
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but in a world of tattle talesñgeç if i were a good cop i'dyyl5uáju the cameras at us. >> i want to throw to this down on tape of the attorney for the eric casebolt. let's go to that shall we? >> eric regrets that his conduct portrayed him and his department in a negative light. he never intended to mistreat anyone, but was only reacting to a situation and the challenges that it presented. he apologizes to all who were offended. as he commonly said he's facing possible criminal charges so he has to prepare for $fbz"ár @r(t&háhp &hc% >> so kimberly, a local story in a maul texas town we have a national press conference where an attorney has to say, a police officer has apologized. is this over or should we make this a bigger bigger story? >> you mean this particular case? >> yes. >> of casebolt. >> yes.
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>> right. i think he tried to like get out ahead of it by saying look i'm going to step down. word is that he was getting death threats, his address was released. he was becoming a very dangerous untenable situation for his family. so a mistake by the officer does not justify violence against him or his innocent family members. so what i don't like to see is the hysteria and pandemonium that is created by rushes to judgment where people say this guy should be taken out, the whole thing. i still think are going to do an investigation. let's see what happens. i'm not entirely sure what charges they are going to bring against him in this particular case. i don't know. good luck to them on that. >> dana you got these rowdy kids, right? you got a cop that probably he admits the emotions got the best of him. that now becomes a data point in a narrative that yet again cops are brutal racists. and that's where it always leads. >> and then people connect dots. you could =rñ through and even in this past year year and a half
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you could name several instances where megyn kelly last night led with baltimore. there's developments in that story, the freddie gray case. there will be more on that. i agree with you. all these local issues are now becoming national issues. they don't necessarily have national solutions. the only thing they really have is national media attention. the solutions are still local. >> local. >> and that's why i try to exercise some caution in looking at all of these things because we don't know what it's like on the ground there. i don't know what mckinney, texas is like. up don't know what the pool situation was. i don't know what the cops were dealing with. but i am also for ensuring that law enforcement has the ability toí1m?ñ exercise their judgment and their discernment. they have to make snap decisions. sometimes they are wrong and he will have to pay the consequences for that, possibly. but condemning an entire police force? all the police in america for these local instances seems like a slqñeslope. >>y ,u eric the little one makes a good point. >> her, not you.
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>> we have national press that kind of leads but it's the local solutions that matter at the end of the day. i hate saying that.hñú' cf1 o but it's the problem for the local communities >> yes. and look one of the things in the monologue i agree with a lot of. the one part i would push back on is rather than not embracing the technology of the cell phone, i would like to go the opposite spectrum and say, you know what let's go out and put a body cam on cops. now this is very popular among cops because the vast vast vast majority of cops are good cops. once in awhile you'll come across one that's bad. and he is the one that all the media will point to. the al sharptons willo$kdñ point to race baiters point and say see all cops are like him. get it all on tape and seat good stuff they do so when someone starts pointing a finger at this guy for pulling his gun. look at this. he had just come from two suicides. >> right. >> so he could pull that tape and say, this is what i dealt with an hour before i made that call. so was i wrong? possibly i was wrong.
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maybe i was wrong. i don't know. but there's a reason for what i jt did. and then -- >> he was first on scene. >> then maybe people would say he made a mistake he's a good cop so he doesn't have to turn in his badge. >> his well career is done now. >> cell phones areor obvious reasons. you see things you haven't seen before. should there almost be like a protective almost like a -- like why can't there be an army of drones that are up there watching what cops do? or what the populist does? >> i think there are. >> there should be. >> i thought we had a big debate about that last week. >> did we? >> sorry. we said we couldn't do it. on numbers. looking at people and recording their actions? >> right. >> if you get called to a suicide to prevent a suicide and as a cop you go on the body cam. no look the guy was about to commit suicide. we have health privacy laws that prevent us from talking about anybody's health care. now we're talking about body cameras that would film
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>> not a good idea. >> you have privacy rights. the question is how do the cops handle the tape that exists. it's not to say they shouldn't have the body camera. the police chiefs around the country are almost unanimous in saying they want the cops to have body cameras. it's a number of police unions. we're all for the26 body cameras. >> for police accused falsely many times. >> it would clear up people who are falsely accused which is a great point. the hoetd hold up is in response to local solutions. oftentimes the funding not only for theu cameras but how you store the material? that will come with the help of the federal government. federal government can help you to get body cameras. the idea of the training and saying when there are bad cops that the federal government will take a look. i think again that's an important function of our government. >> government checking the cameras? >> no. the federal government has the rights. somebody feels their rights have been violated that's interesting
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to me. >> you had the intent. >> then you blew it. >> the whole bottom fell out. that was terrible at the end. >> federal program which allows us against feds getting involved. we don't want them to have access to that. that's got to be a local police department. and if a local community wants to subpoena the tape they can do that. funding can come on a matching grant. president obama approved 25 million bucks, police departments around the country can come with matching funds and they can take some federal money, take their own money and get body cams. we need a lot more money. but the i think it solves -- you know when this is really going to matter? god forbid there's a massive race blowup in this country over the summer. where you can feel the tensionsed rising everywhere. if they just start this right now. let's get the cameras on cops right now so that we can avoid situations before they happen not after. >> this is really interesting. one thing about the story is this happens in a suburban community.
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this is no hard-ass town that's a tough neighborhood. and these are not poor black people overwhelmingly these are kids. so i think that's what caught the attention. now, when crazy is all of a sudden all these activists type show up and want to make it ferguson or baltimore. this is not the case. this is a joke. then they got the hands up. you know from watching the fox news channel, even the obama justice department said that was a hoax. there was no hands up in ferguson. >> that was a lie. >> but guess what? the national people now have taken to this. i think they undermine their own credibility when they do that. much as the officer was wrong, overreacted to a bunch of teenagers in bathing suits who weren't hiding anything i think when the activists come in they hurt themselves and hurt the larger issue of dealing with cops who get out of control. >> i think that's a fair point and a fair point to end on this segment and go to we just had a presser on the manhunt.
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very important news here. it was government cuomo telling us what's happened with these missing inmates. go for it. >> we need to find these escapees. they are dangerous men. they are killers. they are murderers. there's no reason to believe they wouldn't do it again. they're going to be more desperate than ever. so we're doing everything we can. it's a top priority to find them and to bring them back. >> so pú )rs!erly we have breaking news press conference telling us we haven't found these people. amazing breaking news. >> he said they're very dangerous and we need to find these people. did you pay attention? >> they always say they're very dangerous, do not approach them. just once i'd like them to say please approach them. go up to them tell them your name, invite them over for coffee. we know not to approach them. >> they are very seriously dangerous individuals. it's probably going to end very badly in some kind of shootout
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with the police. we've seen this before. let's see what's going to happen. i was hoping he was going to say we've got a good lead and we're close or something of that nature. >> that was a cya press conference. make it look like they're doing stuff. >> they were thanking people. >> thank you so much for sitting here every day as you do at 5:00. equivalent of that. >> can i add a little something to that? i think beyond cya. governor cuomo has had a tough time3p lately with some would say questionable decisions getting out in front of it. the minute this thing was announced he was up at the prison walking through, photo ops all over the place. here's themcia pipe they cut through. here's me climbing down ladders. this is far different from some of the other things the way he's handled other things. >> it's always about pipes with cuomo. we can't handle fracking and we can't handle escapees who made it out through a pipe. >> e cigarettes. he doesn't like those, either. you know what i find so
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fascinating. i love these stories. the point about this story that fascinates me is apparently there was a woman working at the prison. she was involved in helping these guys who were making material or clothes or something. >> taylorske tailors. >> the theory is she helped them get the tools. now she's checked into a hospital. >> she had a big panic attack when it actually worked and they escaped. wow. >> she got used apparently. >> well you know what? there's a nice jail for her. >> that's why you're a prosecutor. >> people have choices in this life, juan. responsibility. >> ever since you were made commander of the star trek enterprise. enterprise. [ laughter ] >> i could never do that. do you have a final thought? >> nanu nanu. >> that's mork. you're confusing mork with
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just days after the president admitted he didn't have a complete strategy yet to fight isis his administration announced as many as 450 additional troops will be deployed to iraq as advisers. here's josh earnest on why the decision was made and why it took so long. >> what can we do to better support the strategy that has been laid out by prime minister abadi, and what can we do to capitalize on those developments of our strategy that have proved effective in iraq. and the best way for to us do both of those things is to essentially expand the capacity of our train, advise and asignificance mission in the anbar prof province. >> what took so long? >> the specific request that was received from prime minister abadi did not come until after the fall of ramadi. >> on monday president obama blamed the pentagon for not
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finalizing a strategy for him. but the former head of the defense intelligence agency says it's not the military's role to set policy. >> the president has to be very clear about what it is that we want to do. he then has to put the right structure framework, people in place to accomplish that. >> okay. and i agree with that. >> i was stunned by his comments two days ago or three days ago. stunned. >> stunned. that's the reaction. we still don't have a strategy yet eric. this is even like what a year later when he was talking -- we don't want to put the cart before the horse and we're still waiting. we're still waiting. >> ten months since he said we don't( want to rush right. don't want to rush into the strategy. so 450 trainers are going to go to iraq. it's kind of like the football team that sucked and you try and fix it by hiring more coaches. if the iraqi army doesn't want to fight for iraq it doesn't
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matter how many trainers you send. i'm not suggesting -- >> i don't think that's a fair assessment. >> why not? >> the criticism has been that they're not at varsity level. they're not ready for primetime yet. >> right. >> they're not adequately trained. >> right. so it feels to me like the administration is caving to the pressure of sending some people over there. they're going to get 450 over there. that is really going to be a game changer? i don't think so. i think maybe helping the kurds fight this thing, or at some point going, wow, is a three-state solution the best answer to this after all and somehow negotiate a three-state solution between the three? again, you know where i am. the more money and people and equipment we send over there, the more money and equipment ends up in the hands of the bad guys and the people end up dead. >> okay. so instead we give them the caliphate discount card? everybody sign up now. get your newsletter. i don't think that's the solution, though. dana. >> i think that the president is
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(l&jjt guessing himself and the military a little too much. i think that there would be more support for additional advisers or whatever he wants to call them. i think he just would have to make that case. but if i were the president in the white house i'd go back to basics and ask the basic questions. do we have a compelling national yes? yes or no. >> yes. >> if we do what are we going to do about it? if we don't what has changed since you told us that we did. if you take those three things and can answer them thats help you find thedaq strategy. i would say the president right now has got to start thinking about what kind of situation does he hand off to his successor. it's only 18 months away. >> a messy one. that can be wasted in five minutes of well we're not sure. let's not be premature. let's not rush into a strategy. we've been hearing that for awhile. i think we expect more of the same, greg. >> i think the obstacle is ourselves. it is a triumph of a certain ideology that portrays any kind of american concern as aggression. but i personally i don't see the difference between sending our
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best fighters to nigeria to slaughter bocabow boko %haram and sending troops to deal with ebola. sending aid to haiti during an earthquake. it's up to the world to tell americans what aid they should decide to get. you can't just say send us your doctors and your money. if you're going to borrow our lawn mower you better mow the damn lawn or we're going to mow it for you. we can't keep sitting here and laboring and the illusion that because we're far away we don't have any input? that the distance didn't stop 9/11. they flew the planes here. ocean privilege does not exist anymore. the world is small. we cannot rely on distance anymore. we have -- nobody around the world can tell us where we're going to go if we believe that our interests are at risk. >> right. so here's the thing for me. you guys are sitting here saying, oh, there's no strategy.
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the president -- i just think that's way overblown. you're talking about a military strategy. let's have an argument about it beginning with the fact that i don't see the iraqis doing anything fdhb themselves. and i think that asche carter defense secretary these guy don't have the will to fight. they weren't driven out. they drove themselves out. come on. >> maybe because they felt ill equipped and weren't properly trained. >> come on. >> president obama's the one that pulled us out of there before they were ready. >> you are making things up. >> no, i'm not. >> we trained a lot it doesn't matter if you train them and they don't have the will to fight. >> you know better because you're the hearts and minds of every single one of those iraqi people that signed up to fight? >> they definitely are laying down -- they've laid down the arms that we've provided them and the training and they've left it there. >> why is that? >> they flee city after think. because they have no will to fight. that is really part of it.
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>> the peshmerga have the will to fight. >> and the kurds. >> they are also very trained still super fighters. [ overlapping speakers ] >> they're committed because they have a sense they've got something to lose. they're fighting for their land. we have trained the kurds. training the shiites. but the sunnis are the ones that so far this shi'ite-led country has not allowed us to train. now under the president's new plan we're going to get the sunnis in. we hope they'll be willing to make the fight. >> i say kimberly you're exactly right. >> can i do one thing your lawnmower analogy is perfect. the problem is these guys, these iraqis keep giving our lawn mower to the bad guys and they're mowing our lawn with our own lawn mower. >> what kind of crazy thing is that? >> to help pinpoint places to bomb that's a good move. >> exactly. >> i think that's what it is. coming up some of the worst
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♪ millions of college grads are saddled with the heavy burden of student loan debt. so what's the solution? don't pay it off, according to author lee siegel. in an op ed in the "new york times" on sunday siegelekñh brags about defaulting on his loans and is encouraging americans to do the same. >> i don't advocate people go out and destroy their lives. what i was saying in an ideal situation when things will only change through some kind of crisis, which is the way social change occurs. in an ideal situation if everyone put their collective foot down and said enough already, and there was a
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national boycott of loans the system might change. >> so jordan wiseman of slate had a great response if you're interested we'll put it on our facebook page. he said "after pursuing not one not two but three degrees from an ivy league university siegel chose to default on his student loans at taxpayer expense because he felt that paying them back would have hampered his ambitions of becoming a writer." spectacularly bad advice? >> yes. especially since he's such a bad writer and choosing symbolic statements over common sense. if he's telling students to default that will for the government to garnish their their wages 15%. the interesting thing here is that would you ever -- you would not pay the school loan. would you ever do that for a;sr car loan? no they can repossess your car. they can't repossess your education because you already have it. it's like dining and dashing. he's telling you to eat the meal and then run. the solution is the same as
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dining and darndashing. catch that person make him go into the kitchen and do the dishes. lee siegel should be forced to go back to that campus and work at the campus doing serious menial labor because he's a crook and stupid crook and dangerous crook and the times should not have run that article. >> i agree. i think the times should not have done it. look at the other people they've had in recently like 6ñíqputin. let me ask you, so the mortgage debt bubble that was a huge one. the student loan debt bubble is now even bigger than that was. >> exceeding $1 trillion. if you look at siegel's op ed he nails it. he calls himself out in the very first line of the op ed. it says "i went with my mother to the local bank a long defunct institution. the reason why the local bank is a long defunct institution is because low lives like you walk on the loans. you shouldn't be doing that. it got so bad the government said i'll tell you what. we'll now back the loans that you people like siegel are defaulting walking away from. so now the taxpayer's on the hook, too.
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so all those people that you think you're doing a social justice thing by telling kids to walk on the loans? thod z jobs. those are people who are losing their jobs at the banks. those are also taxpayers who are working hard paying their taxes to support all those defunct lone that is you're recommending right now. i think he should go one step further. he should have to write stupid inaneb.s. for like a year. can't write any columns or books. >> kimberly in your book "i very good financial advice. one of the things that could happen if you were to take siegel's advice you would rack up collection fees. your credit score takes a hit. it's very hard to ever get that back. as greg said your wages could be garnished. you could lose your professional license or your driver's license. you could be ineligible for future federal aid and ineligible for repayment plans and forgiveness. you're totally on the hook. >> this is really irresponsible. what you're doing is this to me is committing a crime. you are intending to commit a
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fraud and steal. you are no better than a thief or a felon if you do this. because if you take something you have no intention to pay for it that's stealing. >> he said it because he's white. he has white privilege. he doesn't think he's committing a crime because he's a white liberal. >> dual diagnosis. white privilege with -- >> you're a black kid you'll have hell in your life. >> but a comfortable writer. >> this is entitlement gone bizarre. i think all of you are kind of nailing the obvious. i think this guy is nuts. i think he's :rude. i think he's narcissistic and selfish. i don't like it at all. i think education is a gift. if you didn't make the decision that you're in and i'm promising i will pay the money back you should pay the money back. you should make an effort. >> the american taxer's going to pay for this guy. >> hammering the obvious point here. the not so obvious point is the political point. he's playing into populist
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elizabeth warren sentiments that say oh, you know what i think he wrote something like this. oh the big tax fraud people. they get off. the inside traders they get off. all of the folks on wall street with their inside nepotism. they get off. >> he's an occupy wall street kind of l(;.jguy. >> this is what this is about. but it is misguided. you are hurting people, lee siegel. >> you know who paid off all his student loans? >> every one? >> senator marco rubio. that was in the "new york times" yesterday and they're giving him a hard time. >> they gave him a hard time. >> saying he really wanted to follow his passion it wasn't fair he couldn't follow his career passion because he had student loan debt. >> entitlement. >> how many millions of people have to,0/y take a job to pay off loans. >> a very good reminder that parents as you sit down before your kids go to college this semester, this fall sit down with them and really talk to them about the major and what do they want to achieve. you have to do a little bit of cost calculation before you enter into that. >> come on dana. are you going to say because i was a philosophy major i had no
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hope? >> i think philosophy major is a very good major. it teaches you great critical thinking. >> my mother said what kind of job will that get you? let's go onto this topic. jerry seinfeld thinks there's something creepy going on in america an it's hurting the world of comedy. that's next on "the five." let's take a look at your credit. >>i know i have a 786 fico score, thanks to experian.com. so what else are you going to throw in? leather seats? >>and this... get your credit swagger on. become a member of experian credit tracker and find out your fico score powered by experian. what do you think of when you think of the united states postal service? exactly. that's what pushes us to deliver smarter simpler faster sleeker earlier fresher harder farther quicker and yeah even on sundays. what's next?
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last week jerry seinfeld revealed why he won't perform on college campuses anymore. politically correct student can't take a joke and jerry thinks p.c. is killing comedy. last night he said the problem stretches beyond just universities. >> i do this joke about the way people need to justify their cell phone. i need to have it with me because people are so important. >> right. >> you know they don't seem very important the way you scroll through them like a gay
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frenchñw king you know? i did this line recently in front of an audience. and comedy is where you can kind of feel an opinion. and they thought, what do you mean gay? what are you talking about gay? people say, well that's offensive to suggest that a gay person moves their hands in a flourishing motion and you now need to apologize. there's a creepy p.c. thing out there that really bothers me. >> greg it spills into the media. but now into comedy too. >> here's the thing. jerry seinfeld is today's rip van wipg el. he's just waking up to something that has really been going on for 40 years. remember, big brother was supposed to be government. big brother is actually the activists. the actual -- the protester is now the biggest threat to free speech that we have ever seen. he should probably stop whining because he's very wealthy and he can speak up and speak out and sponsor events on campus to talk about these speech easies which
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are like prohibition you had speak easies where the booze flowed. now have the language flow. sponsor events where you can have comedians go over there and where restrictions are restricted. people can say whatever they want. he could do it. he's got the power. >> you turned that into a positive statement. >> you have blowback for speaking your mind. >> obviously being a journalist and being on fox you get blowback. i'm going to tell you something. i get blowback when i'm on college campuses. if you challenge orthodoxy. what's interesting about this for me is if you challenge liberal orthodoxy. if you say to the kids you knowlz what, think about what you're saying. think about what you take as an assumption. think about how people have to live. think about what the police do the earlier segment the fact they're human beings too. oh all of a sudden you're not fitting into the existing narrative that they've all bought into and now you're the bad guy. this is very interesting to me that liberals are buying into this. the interesting part of this argument is that somebody wrote back to jerry seinfeld and said
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hey why don't you make fun of the people in power rather than making fun of women or poor people or mine people or minorities. >> how about having to respond to those types of demands from the public. >> i thought maybe that jokes that go out of fashion. like the types of jokes go out of fashion they change. good clean fun was in favor for awhile. then there was like the profanity-laced. remember eddie murphy? i thought it was hilarious. i don't know if that would have been funny to my grandmother. kids today i think they laugh at two things republicans and cat video. >> that's a good point. pushback on conservative humor. >> they think that's hilarious. >> he makes a good point. now he's saying that comedians even to like think twice or three times, check the list. get it approved. i don't know. before they make some jokes if they don't want to get in
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trouble. so i'm all for maybe the speak easy situation. >> mark your calendars for the first time ever. i agree with bob c!stas. he may have finally made a good call. >> i wish caitlin all the happiness in the"]$] world and all the peace of mind in the world. however it strikes me that awarding the arthur ashe award to caitlin jenner is just a crass exploitation play. it's a tabloid play. in the broad world of sports i'm pretty sure they could have found -- this is not anything against caitlin jenner. i'm sure they could have found someone who was much more -- much closer to actively involved in sports who would have been deserving of what that award represents. >> and personally i think the one they should have picked,
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lauren hill, the college basketball player who spent her last days raising awareness of cancer in young people. that ñperson lauren hill should have won that in my opinion. so k.g. your thoughts. >> no. i second that. i think that would have been a fantastic pick. and i think appropriate in keeping with the nature of that award. to designate it to someone like this, a young woman trying to create awareness of the terrible disease of cancer and that it does strike down young people in the prime of their life. >> the arthur ashe award for courage in sports has been given to some i don't know questionable characters. as far as their ties to sports. your thoughts on this pick. >> i think bob costas is exactly right. this is all about money. "vanity fair" putting jenner on the cover, all these magazines, all these stories. i just think, you know what? people again this is so p.c. we're being progressive about this. no. i think you're just shutting down arguments and making people feel like you got to buy into this. and it's all about making money for these media organizations.
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>> making money. >> i have to say i'm tired of the reality star driving of the news. because you could do that almost every night now so they get the reality show then the news coverage about their reality show. in this case i would like to have a right not to have an opinion. i don't want to have to care about everything. but what jerry seinfeld was talking about in terms of the mob mentality, p.c. mentality, that extends to something like this where you have to have a particular opinion and they wantv you to express it or else then you are also a sexist racist whatever, bigot. >> you know what it is. you have to pick a side right? if you don't have an opinion in this case you have to pick a side. but it has to be -- >> their side. >> -- their side or you are a bigot. i take some kind of offense with bob costas when he was talking about the broad world of sports. that's exist. >> so rude. >> well done. >> apology.
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last week hillary clinton made a push to expand voting rights in a clear bid to appeal to minority voters. a group still struggling in today's economy. unemployment among african-americans almost double the national average while their poverty level is nearing 30%. this morning's "washington post" says as a result some black voters are disillusioned. of course. they're wondering if the first black president wasn't able to make our lives better hmm. does that mean hillary clintong"'t should automatically get our vote? what do you say, dana? >> i think they have a right to ask the question. she had a broader speech. but the thing that wasl picked out and that her team really pushed into the media was this voting rights issue. if i were her, knowing that she's going to have to make sure that she gets voters to the polls especially african-americans, i would be talking about how to improve economic opportunity, school access to better school and maybe even school choice. that could be a bold thing that she could talk about.
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and also safety in their communities. i think those are the three things. however there's another thing going on here. she really only has to worry about turnout in five states. okay? because she knows she's going to win california and new york. so there's pretty much only she need to talk to african-americans in virginia m3iúa florida, iowa colorado and ohio to get to that magic number of 270. >> eric what strikes me is i don't think she's going to take dana's advice. but i do think she is going to demonize republicans. in other words, i'm not barack obama. you're not going to be voting for me as a fellow black person or the first black president. but don't forget the bad guys on the other side. >> so you're right. probably that will be likely strategy. but one of her biggest support groups is wall street. one of the biggest reasons why the income inequality gap in america has widened under president obama is because wall street the top echelon the top maybe i don't know 5% are making more. the bottom 20% isn't keeping up. going up but not keeping up.
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i believe if free markets. i'm in favor of that system. if you can make more make more and go ahead and do it. however if you're talking income equality which is a catch phrase for the left more of the same is going to create a continued widening of income inequality. so she hasn't shown us anything that's going to be different from president obama. so you could look at it as hillary clinton as a third obama term. you're going to get more of the same. high unemployment among african-americans. high poverty rates among african americans. and a widening income inequality. >> so kimberly if you're a republican and you're trying to reach out to minority voters or let's say women even who are again she's counting on women to turn out in big numbers. what do you say as a republican? >> republicans are going to have to make the case for themselves don't just blindly check the box again for the democratic party. what has the democratic party done for you lately? are you satisfied with what president obama did? do you want a continuation of that? or do you want to make a brave and courageous choice and be
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fearless and do something better for your families and your country and stop penalizing entrepreneurship. get the economy back on the right track. small businesses educational and opportunities with new jobs for those kids that are grad weight. that's what moms care abo% dana. >> we're running, obviously. >> here's the thing. i was reading this "washington post" article. the guy says i made history voting for obama. but it didn't make a difference in my life. >> yeah. it's time to wise up that nobody fares well under an expanding nanny state. we've watched decades of harm of an unbrided government interference. a president that represents all americans helps black americans most. both parties are at fault. you have the arrogance of the white level that they know they can do anything. anything and blacks will still vote. you have the ambivalence of the right who have conceded votes of millions of people because they've kind of given up. these millions of blacks and
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minorities, hispanics, actually share conservative values. they do. it's been shown in surveys. they don't know how and they have to learn to communicate better -- >> very cynical. if some on the right wanted to drive divisions they would talk about her support and expanded support on immigration. >> here we go. >> that's how you could actually split that vote. >> i think you're going to have a campaign. one more thing up next.
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one more thing, dana. >> i need a graphic dana's family vacations recommendations. >> then everybody would leave. >> that was long. >> my family recommendation. something i got to do on monday. went to the ronald reagan library in simi valley. i went with my friendsdg tracy and joe. that's macy their daughter. i went with my husband. that's john highbush who runs the library. i did a book event there for "and the good news is." the crowning achievement of the day was that macy english as a surprise was asked to come up and lead a gathering of about 1200 people in the pledge of allegiance. she didn't even blink. she was just perfect. the library is so inspiring and well done and put together. you should really consider taking your family this year. >> simi valley is awesome. they
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sim simi. >> who likes pant suits? not me. >> okay, captain kirk. >> whatever. this is hillary clinton instagram. >> red, white and blue? >> i like that it's colorc[> might have to change multiple times in a day. >> all pant suits. pretty cool shot. that's adorable. that's why i did it. >> very nice. iyq hink they need the fox fashion department in here. >> greg's goats in pajama news. all right. it's a big trend in brooklyn goats in pajamas. interesting here we got a lot of goats walking around looking very stylish. you foe how you make a goat smile? say goat cheese [ laughter ] >> i can make you laugh at the dumbest jokes ever.
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>> you take them out of afghanistan. >> clean one. that's funny. >> eric? >> okay. ever really want to catch a foul ball at a baseball game? ever really want to do it with a bare hand? how about taping yourself doing it? watch this. >> now that's amazing. mike deóxd the whole thing. biloxi shuckers against the mobile bears minor league. that was pretty cool. >> so mark lazarus, the nbc sports chief, well, he loves hockey. he's showing it getting good numbers but he has a complaint. too many beards. look at patrick kane. look at henrik lundqvist. the chief of nbc sports says we want to see faces, he wants the faces to be recognized and fans to root for their[%2nl heroes. so no more james harden no more brian wilson. cut the beards gentlemen! if you want to be famous and get
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endorsements. >> that's beardist. you hate hair. what have you got against hair? >> have you ever had a beer? >> um -- >> probably not. back to iraq. president obama reverses course returning hundreds of american troops to a country under siege. now one recurring question. is it enough? this is "special report." >> good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. if action es do indeed speak louder than words, today's announcement that president obama is sending hundreds of troops back to iraq could be interpreted as a tacit admission that his administration with drew too many too fast. the president's critics have contended as much as isis terrorist rampaged through parts the administration meanwhile, insists it's deali
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