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ap that he had around his wrist -- leland: i'm still thinking medicine was merv going to be your career -- never going to be your career choice. martha: no, never my career choice. leland: thanks, have a great weekend. "happening now" starts now. martha: bye everybody. ♪ ♪ jenna: the investigation into a chilling plot to kill police officers in boston feeds another arrest. hello, everybody hope you're off to a great friday, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. officials picked up a second person aware of plans to carry out attacks with knives. rahim was shot to death last week by authorities in boston who sought to question him david wright was arrested that same night. the charges and the exact relationship to the men are under seal now but the complaint against him will be made public before he appears in court in a matter of hours. chief intelligence catherine herridge
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has been doing some digging on this, she's live in washington. catherine? >> reporter: well, thank you jon. according to the u.s. attorney in boston nicholas rubin sky will appear in federal court just three hours from now his arrest coming as a shock the his neighbors in rhode island. >> a couple cars came around the corner, and then they kind of went into the yard and so i stayed out and watched and a couple of minutes later he came out in handcuffs. he was always a nice kid and i didn't see him doing any harm. >> reporter: fox news did a deep dive review of the online and social media accounts associated with him when his home was first searched after rahim was shot by boston cops outside cvs on june 2nd. his youtube page included links to a well known cleric who uses his facebook account to promote violence, and he is accused of caddallizing the men who -- radicalizing the men who beheaded a british soldier in
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the streets of london in 2013. the young british soldier was targeted outside his barracks and hacked to death with machetes. the youtube page linked to the rhode island suspect also included a how-to guide to make machetes without power tools, and audio chants with the stamp of the islamic state. investigators are questioning whether he edge couraged rahim to launch the attack in boston and may well be the digital link to isis overseas. also an analysis of the social media traffic shows a link between one of the boston suspects one of the garland, texas, shooters as well as an american in somalia fighting alongside al-shabaab. jon. jon: so many tangled webs. >> reporter: it's a real network. jon: catherine herridge in washington, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jenna: keep that in mind at home we turn overseas as the white house considers a new network of bases in iraq to support the country's army in its fight against isis. it's been described as the lily
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pad strategy after the obama administration announced it will deploy another 450 u.s. troops to equip and train the iraqi forces. the plan is already drawing criticism that it's too little too late, and our next guest says this strategy is a recipe for u.s. casualties. lieutenant colonel bill cowan is joining us, fox news military analyst. why do you believe that, colonel cowan? >> well, jenna f they follow through on the plan, and i understand it's still in the making, to put what they call the lily pad concept bases throughout anbar province, we're going to be putting u.s. troops out there at risk. every one of those bases if we have people out there is going to require a heavy level of security to safeguard and protect. and remember a 140 mm rocket -- and i'm sure isis has plenty of them -- has a about a 7-mile range, and it could be fired from the back of a-up truck or hump -- a pickup truck. so the perimeter around every one of those bases is going to
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be quite large. the security perimeter is going to require a lot of effort to protect it, and i think it's a recipe for some americans somehow being injured or killed. jenna: i know this hits close to home for you your son is serving you, of course served as well colonel cowan. there seems to be attention constantly when we look at the military and military strategy between those behind the wire and those who have been outside the wire. talk to us about that. is that what's happening here there's this plan that's drawn up by people that have not actually gone to this area and fought this enemy? >> well, you know, thanks for asking that question the way you did there. i'm sure there's plenty of people in the pentagon that understand exactly what's going on here. i think some of this is being driven from the top leadership and maybe even in the white house. remember there's a lot of symbolism, symbolism about having u.s. bases in areas that are either threatened by or could be threatened by isis. more symbolism than reality about what we're really trying to do. i'm sure there's plenty of
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people in the military who are looking at this and saying you know what? this is mission creep at its absolute best, and we're going to pay a penalty for it. jenna: what would that penalty be? >> well we'll lose some americans. when we have those bases out there, they have to be resupplied. that may be by convoys or by aircraft and, of course, isis has plenty of means of shooting down aircraft. as you look at the entire notion of putting these bases out there in al anbar in threatened areas, areas where isis has been out there working it's nothing but a recipe for threat to u.s. forces, u.s. lives out there and none of us -- and thank you for mentioning my son who just went over for his sixth tour in afghanistan -- none of us want to see any more americans anywhere suffer casualties on the battlefield. jenna: not without strong leadership and a well defined plan. talk to us a little bit more about this lille hi pad concept -- lily pad concept. lily pad is a way to describe what would be, apparently these
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small bases to go across anbar province. you have the complete opposite of that in an area of the world like south korea where we have massive installments and tens of thousands of troops. what do you think is the right strategy in iraq? >> well, remember quickly, going back to vietnam and even iraq and afghanistan, we had what was called forward operating bases that, indeed, were out there in the area where the bad guys were but those were operating bases, bases from which aggressive operations could be conducted against an enemy. in that case you wanted to be out there because you could do something against them. in these cases we're putting people to help and advice assist and maybe make the sunnis feel a little bit better about our presence. here's what i believe right now first off, i don't believe we need to train more iraqi troops. there's plenty of good, experienced iraqi combat troops. what they lack is leadership, unfortunately, thanks to maliki and even the current prime minister who have not filled the rankings with good, effective
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combat leaders who can lead those young iraqi troops out there. and secondly, we haven't really shown the iraqis that we're 100% behind them. when we run 10-15 airstrikes a day, they know we could be running hundreds a day a thousand or more if we wanted to if we were really engaged with them. so i don't think there's any level of confidence on the part of the iraqis that we, the united states, are really engaged. and i don't think the lily pad concept is going to bring that level of confidence for them to carry the fight that we want them to. jenna: and that brings us back to the mission. i'm going to leave the middle east for a moment and talk a little bit about russia. sources tell me that really russia remains a big area of concern for this administration and what vladimir putin is up to. there's a new story out today about crowd funding a war and what the report suggests is that there's dozens of groups in russia that are raising money through social media like a start-up here in the united states, and that's what's actually funding these quote-unquote, separatists that are fighting ukraine's central
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government. what do you think about this report, colonel cowan? >> you know jenna that's -- i think it's deception and deploy on the part of putin and the government. how many russian civilians do we really believe want to fund a separatist movement in another country where we have questionable motives? putin's motives aren't questionable. remember, when putin went into the crimea in eastern crew crane, he did it -- ukraine, he did it by sending in russian agents and special operations forces dressed up to look like loanings. there to look like locals. he now owns crimea, and he's really got good control in the eastern parts of ukraine. so funding now, funding's different because the movement of money can be watched carefully through international means, and i think putin is aware of that. what he can do now is okay, i'm going to have the people fund this. we're going to get money to these separatist groups by the people. i think the people really jenna, is the russian government once again stepping up. they're going to funnel money out to people in the russian
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population have those people put money into the crowd funding, and that's how they're trying to move money into these insur gent groups. once again it's putin on the move, he knows what his goals and objectives are. the reality is he's going to continue to push in eastern ukraine until he accomplishes his goals. i think his ultimate goal is all of the ukraine. it might take him some time to get there, but nobody's slowing him down at this point. jenna: that's why we want to make sure we continue to pay attention to that as well as iraq and syria. always a pleasure to have you on, thank you very much. >> my privilege jenna. thank you. jon: tonight will mark one week since two convicted killers were last seen in a maximum security prison. now the nearby upstate new york community is on edge as hundreds of officers continue to comb the woods and search homes. the governor of new york warns the law will be tough on anyone who helped richard matt and david sweat break out of prison. governor andrew cuomo says investigators are looking at several people who might have had a hand in the plot, among
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them joyce mitchell on right, a prison employee. david lee miller live with the latest on the hunt in new york. david lee? >> reporter: jon, a source close to the investigation tells fox news the woman we've been talking about at length joyce mitchell, did, in fact, agree to provide transportation to the two inmates after they broke out of the prison. the two inmates were reportedly waiting for a vehicle once they emerged from that manhole according to our source. mitchell agreed to provide that vehicle at that location, but at the last minute she changed her mind and did not show up. the inmates, according to our source, did not have a plan b, and it is for that reason authorities now still believe the two inmates david sweat and richard matt, are still on foot in this area. sniffer dogs have picked up their scent. now as for the details of the escape itself, they are still murky. it is believed that power tools were used to cut through the
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steel wall and the pipes inside the prison. the question remains how did these two inmates get their hands on the tools. this morning a short time ago the district attorney here said those tools those power tools did not come from joyce mitchell. listen. >> ms. mitchell, based on our investigation has not provided power tools. she has not provided any form of power tools to east sweat or matt. -- to either sweat or matt. >> reporter: the district attorney did say however, that mitchell did provide the inmates with contraband, but he would not elaborate. at in the hour jon, according to new york's governor, it is possible these two inmates could be as far away as mexico or, in his words 4 miles from the prison which is not far from where i am now standing. jon? jon: and nerves still very much on edge there where you are. david lee miller, thanks. so as police question prison worker joyce mitchell, we're going to take a closer look at the serious ramifications
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involved if she helped two murderers break out. our legal panel here in about 15 minutes with that. jenna: well, hillary clinton hoping to turn the page after recent scandals. clinton is set to hold the first big rally of her presidential campaign in new york city tomorrow. will the speech be a game changer? our political panel will be here to discuss. plus, 12 bank robberies and no arrests. the fbi hoping this guy wearing a yankees baseball cap will strike out soon. we'll tell you about that. and a suspect rams police cars during a wild chase but officers -- what officers say started it all. >> everything was locked up. i had never seen so many cars, police cars, cop cars. i've never seen that many before. >> it's a little scary, you know? just like -- [laughter] you never know what happens when you're sleeping.
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the case stemmed from sex parties held during the global financial crisis. he says he didn't know the women involved were prostitutes. a violent police chase leaves one officer with minor injuries in minnesota. investigators say a woman spotted the suspect lurking around her house with an axe. she called police the suspect took off, ramming patrol cars until he was eventually arrested. and the search is on for a serial bank robber in new york city. the fbi offering a quote significant reward for information leading to the arrest of this man. he's often seen wearing a yankees baseball cap. and showing a gun during several robberies. jon: hillary clinton preparing for her first major campaign event tomorrow, or so we're told. mrs. clinton will be holding a kickoff rally on new york city's roosevelt island a reboot of sorts for a campaign marked by controversial headlines. michael warren is a staff writer
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at the weekly standard. thanks for being here. wet -- betsy i thought we already launched the hillary clinton campaign. >> surprise, time for take two. look, the first few months ofhill re's official candidacy has been rocky at best. we've seen her poll numbers go down among democratic voters and general populace. things are rough right now. so the fact that she's having this big event gives her an opportunity either to recreate herself as someone relatable and human or potentially it's a risk that things might not go according to plan. so it's going to be exciting to watch. jon: i think we have a graphic that shows where roosevelt island is in comparison with manhattan. it's linked to manhattan but as many observers have noted it's pretty hard to get to. you can get there by tram or you can get there by subway and if you use the subway, you have to climb about seven flights of stairs to get up to the mainland. but she is trying to channel the legacy of the roosevelts, we understand michael.
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>> right. i think this is all a response to the narrative that, oh, maybe hillary clinton has a challenge in the democratic party or a couple challenges. you think since that first launch that happened a few months act you've had bernie sanders get in, martin o'malley get into the democratic primary race so this is a way i think to reestablish that hillary clinton has this long pedigree with, that goes all the way back to the roosevelts. it's a little weird, isn't it? why do the clintons need the roosevelts? they're the clintons. they're their own sort of brand. now, bill clinton when he was first running reached back to the roosevelts, but really they're the roosevelts of their time, so this is a little weird. it's supposed to be showing strength i think it shows weakness and maybe a little insecurity on the part of hillary clinton that she's doing this relaunch and sort of pulling back to ancient history really, in the democratic party. jon: yeah. historians who have, you know, taken a look back at the marriage of the roosevelts they
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had kind of an interesting marital arrangement. hillary clinton admits that she has had imaginary quote-unquote, conversations with eleanor roosevelt. bob bob woodruff wrote book that she was having a seance kind of thing with eleanor roosevelt -- [laughter] which, i guess really ticked off the clintons, betsy. what is the image? i mean, why call on eleanor roosevelt these days? nobody alive today really remembers much of the roosevelt administration. >> it's an interesting choice the fact that hillary clinton has been so inspired by eleanor roosevelt tells us a lot about her. eleanor roosevelt was a reformer but she was also an ardent feminist, she was active in the beginning of the progressive movement. so it's interesting that clinton is willing to hearken so far back to the roosevelts. but yeah, you're right, you know, it is a little bit unusual she's not bringing in a broader view of the history of progressivism and, you know, let's be serious here. just because hillary can hearken back to a progressive leader
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doesn't mean she's going to fool progressives. bill de blasio the mayor of new york who's fast becoming a progressive icon, says he will not be at clinton's rollout in part because she's been so cagey on things like the trade deal and income inequality. it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to help her out with her base. jon: carly fiorina on the republican side is sort of running as the anti-hillary clinton. she's been very open to the press and so forth. michael, do you see hillary's reluctance to answer the question, answer press questions her sort of -- the remoteness from everyday people, is that all going to be answered? is that going to be turned around when she starts this relaunch of her campaign on roosevelt island? >> i guess that's what they're hoping for. again, i thought we did this already. i thought this was the whole point of the road trip to iowa and going to chipotle and
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ordering food that everyday americans -- which, again, is not a real phrase but they've been using that -- doing the sort of things you're supposed to be doing when you're campaigning, but she really wasn't doing that. i don't understand why a big event on roosevelt island in new york city look, new york city's a liberal place, new york is a democratic state. she's not really sort of going out into sort of real america if you want to use that phrase. so i don't see where this is really any big change. i really think that we in the media should sort of not go along with this and see this for what this is which is really a second attempt to start the campaign. so i just don't see her really turning things around a with this event. maybe she will do it in the next couple weeks as she dose to iowa and other places -- as she goes to iowa and other places. jon: michael warren betsy woodruff, thank you both. jenna: one major city wants to help you keep track of your salt
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jon: right now police are looking at several people who may have helped two convicted killers break out of a maximum security prison in new york. among them joyce mitchell, a worker at clinton correctional facility. authorities think she might have helped the two prisoners. the district attorney said she did not give them power tools but did bring contraband into the prison. so if investigators find joyce mitchell assisted two killers in their escape what charges might she face?
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emily is a former federal attorney and former criminal defense attorney, ken zimmerman is a contributor to the national law journal and a former general counsel. thanks both of you for being here. >> you bet. jon: so take the first whack at it emily. if you were the prosecutor handling the prosecution of a woman who helped a couple of convicted killers break out what charges do you bring? >> first and foremost, accessory to the prison break and then any subsequent felony that occurs from this prison break. so sheas going to be on the hook for anything that happens while these escaped cons are continuing to escape and elude police. if there is any type of violence, robberies theft i would hold her accountable and liable for all of that. jon: every count i suppose, gets multiplied by two because there are two individuals involved, right? >> you bet. she face at least ten years just for helping them get out if she did it. if they, god forbid, they kill somebody she's on the hook for that. anything else they do. and who knows if she knew that's
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what she was up for if she tried to do this, but it's very serious, and these guys really are the worst of the worst. they're notorious. they will potentially, have a lot of violence when they get captured if history's any guide. that's what they've done in the past. jon: yeah. these are two really bad dudes who have become the first ever to break out of that prison. authorities have said she's been cooperative and i guess make the best thing you can say is besides that she got cold feet when she apparently was supposed to deliver the getaway vehicle. can she use that, you know, go to court? can she say, well, maybe i helped them break out, but i didn't give them a car. [laughter] >> she can try but it won't work. and, certainly, a jury of her peers wouldn't let her get away with that type of explanation. do we want to think that prison workers can aid and abet people in escaping, but at the last minute i just didn't drive the car away and they'll be off the hook? absolutely not. we need to know the consequences of our actions, so if she made
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the decision to help, to bring in contraband to the prison, it doesn't matter if she didn't drive the car at the last moment, and that's also the message the da will be sending with these charges they're undoubtedly going to file you will never get away with something like this, we will bring the hammer. jon: there's another issue that has come to the fore, completely unrelated to this, but microchips for humans, the idea of implanting microchips potentially, you know, to keep track of alzheimer's patients or things like that. but what about the potential for misuse? >> there's certainly potential for misuse but listen if you're killing cops, you give up your right, you give up your civil liberties your right to privacy. i'm all for it for guys like these, but it's unlikely. there may be a civil liberties fight, but also maybe more importantly the technology infrastructure that would be required to track this usually these are used in closed
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settings, at a hospital at fairgrounds but to have it all over the country, that would be expensive and hard to pull off expensive and hard to pull off jon: yeah, that's the idea, you put them in convicted convicts so they can't mount an escape like this. >> right. and as you just said the right to privacy is diminished, if anything, extinguished so there might be less severe methods of tracking like a bracelet etc., but postincarceration that's where real issue begins too and the infrastructure needed to do it. i do think within the time of incarceration we can absolutely have some type of trackable method that will work and that will increase safety of the guards as well and increase efficiency of taxpayer money as well. jon: we will keep an eye on it. hope they get those guys back this weekend, emily ken, thank you. >> thank you so much. jenna: florida senator marco rubio striking back after two unfavorable stories in the "new york times." is the mainstream media out to get this republican candidate? our panel weighs in with some
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interesting thoughts on that. and this sunday is flag day and one really big flag caught my eye. to find out just how they display it, i got some very special access. right now we're standing right above where we fly the country's largest free-flying american flag. we'll show it to you next. american flags. ♪ ♪
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the new york times and, quote elitist liberal media. this after two and favorable reports in the times and one. that claims mr. marco rubio entered light into its deep financial hole of his own making. marco rubio responded with this statement, the new york times attacked him over track it -- traffic tickets, now they think he doesn't have enough money in his bank account. if you was worth millions the times would attack him for being too rich like they did mitt romney. a pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter and fox news contributor, lynn sweet, chief of the washington sun-times, that deep financial hole of his own making the times referred to was $150,000 in student loan debt largely occasioned by his attendance at law school. why do they attacked that? >> he paid off, unlike millions
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of americans who borrow money and borrow every month on credit cards and don't pay it off, this somehow is held up as an example of imprudent financial management, the purchase of the luxury fishing boat, all 25 feet of it which would in steven kind of fit in john kerry at yacht, $7 million alongside, and when john stuart is mocking your coverage i think you have a problem. >> they did, luxury fishing boat but a luxury speedboat. we have a picture of it. it is pretty ordinary. it cost the grand but things are expensive these days. did the new york times go overboard on a hit piece? >> no. there's a lot more to the store you have not meant and, this story was talking about the financial life of a presidential
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candidate. it is neither it nor follow. interesting to note that he failed to make mortgage payments on, that he did something no one should ever do and that is close out a $68,000 retirement account. he had to pay $25,000 penalty. he comingles credit cards for his campaign to pay for personal expenses, this was a wire already, he pleads naivete, by the time you are a lawyer, some of the stuff you should know and everybody could understand you should fall behind on mortgage payment when you have jobs and making some money. if you look at the whole picture and the whole story is a reasonable look at the financial life of a presidential candidate and i am almost certain all these candidates will be financially scrub the. >> the editor of the "national
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review," the finances of presidential candidate are fair game and the narrative is possible and lived by most americans as gillian and even suspect. it will not sell funded or otherwise rich but when someone like marco rubio comes along and started like nothing, the reaction at the t malice. to been's point marco rubio's campaign, dirt-poor and didn't have a lot of training as to how to handle finances. >> he is not a trust fund baby. his story will resonate with americans. i agree with you, how he handles his finances do matter. however this story came right after another story that looked at 20 years of traffic tickets
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and came up with four for marco rubio and 17 for his wife. she is a speed demon but when you have this kind of piling on a candidate so early what this says to me is n.y. times democrats, liberals in particular are worried about marco rubio end want to get in early by looking at him first. he is the poorest of the presidential candidates, $440,000, seems like a lot to most americans but not by presidential standards. >> there are plenty of news reports diving into the finances of the clinton foundation. we're stage where journalists look at what they can about everybody. i don't know why it wasn't in the same story, one complete story. everybody is going to be looked at. neil: one of those traffic
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tickets was occasioned by red light cameras which are the worst things invented. i hate them and it is no wonder marco rubio has raised $100,000. >> a presidential issue, national ban on those. >> cash at the moment. >> thank you both. >> to your saying that there is some history there. >> on west side highway. partially through the intersection. >> the full story. jon: you are supposed to confront your future. confirm your of present -- accuser in court. >> this is very passionate. in the constitution, next hero, 1:00 p.m. on happening now. we have another original story to bring you. and all access task on the world's largest free flying
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>> let's look at outnumbered at the top of the hour. what do you have? >> new concerns about isis's ability to recruit young people when they after an american honor student pled guilty to supporting the terror group. what is it about isis drawing younger people in. >> in a stunning that date to the chinese cyberattack a union head said he believes hackers have data on every single parent and retired federal employee. sparking outrage after he said women just don't get the film good fellows. we watch it. one lucky guy on outnumbered until the top of the hour.
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>> this weekend is flagged a nationwide. june 14th is when the holiday is observed and it falls on a sunday. you likely don't have the day off of work unless you live in pennsylvania where it is counted as a legal holiday because legend says the first american flag was fair. a few years ago, one particular flag caught my attention this is just a story that fox news viewers should see. after world war ii the george washington bridge that connects new york and new jersey started flying an american flag on veterans day and other national holidays. now the flag is the largest free flying american flags in the entire world's which begs all sorts of questions. how do you take care of it? where d story? how do you and for all it? we recently got the answers and a spectacular view.
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>> this is the world's busiest bridge with an 600 feet to the top. we are going all the way up there. >> every get a little frayed appear? >> you have to have a little fear. you have to have a little fear. >> pretty high. >> a flag to appear majestic it has to be massive. >> i wanted to get an idea how big it is. >> about three feet.
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>> almost three feet across. 60 x 90, perspective -- it weighs 500 pounds. something to take a lot of pride in. >> this is what the flag is stored in fiberglass tubing all away from the bottom of the arch. >> it is all year long. >> the flag is up in the tower and the lower end deflate it. >> to shield the flag from the elements from thousands of drivers. >> that goes straight to the roadway so we are very conscious of that. nothing can fall in there. >> we had to see it.
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>> repairs are good old-fashioned handiwork. >> any patches ripped in the wind we have to do any selling, we do that. i have done selling. >> you didn't think of that when you started. >> actually i do the selling at home. >> to really understand the height and marvel of the flag i had to get a new perspective and luckily i was given some amazing access. we have to do a little climbing. these are my clause. it is a little nerve wracking. do you see what i do?
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actually unfurl old glory. >> operating it, lowering the actual flag. >> after the work of three strategically placed teams and a dozen men it is all worth it. >> good team work. >> after doing this task in the early morning hours on holidays when most of america has the day off and collect late in the day year after year i had to ask this question. do the guys like doing this or is it a little hassle? >> is not a hassle. it is tremendous. every time you get a chill every time you see it flying. something that enormous, you take a lot of pride in it.
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>> you can tell the flag is big but it is amazing to see unprecedented the people responsible for iraq's of the inspiring and what they had to say about america and the flag and why they feel such pride. that is part of the store too. you will lead them in our 1:00 hour. >> that is fantastic. >> i didn't know this, a fox news tradition, we have a picture from the 1930s, one of the first fox cameramen out there on the golden gate bridge and i noticed he doesn't have a harness like i had, climbing up to get the shots. we are carrying the tradition forward. jon: alisha is coming after that guy. jenna: he is great. have you driven and beneath the flag? jenna: it is a whole new perspective. can't wait to show everybody else. i make you were shaking up
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jon: chain restaurants tell customers how many calories they are taking in. the department of health wants restaurant goers to be aware how much salt is in their meals. counting sodium. >> we eat too much salt. we have sodas to drink and reminded to watch our calories and new york city wants to watch our sodium intake as part of a proposal by the city's health department to require chain restaurants with 15
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establishments or more to add salt shakers symbol on menus next to products containing more than the recommended daily limit of sodium. if you don't know what your daily limit should be this attempt at another government overreach program will remind you. the recommended daily intake is one teaspoon of salt for day. the average american gets 3400 milligrams of sodium per day which amounts to 1-1/2 teaspoons. too much salt will increase the risk of high blood pressure which could lead to heart attacks and strokes, city officials say this is part of a new effort to empower customers. >> we know calory posting has been well received by the public vast majority of restaurant patrons the presence of calorie information. >> city officials and experts have applauded the initiative, at a secure groups say this is an extra layer of red tape. >> we don't know where this is
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going to end. some of these initiatives started out voluntary and end ed up being mandates. that happened with transparency and sodium. >> before these sodium warnings appear on the menu the board of health would have to vote on the matter to consider the proposal in september which means citizens could stand up for or against it. >> i think the government should take care of health problems but not get into our personal life. i think health and betterment is an important part of today's society and anything that helps that is a positive thing for the community and people. >> of the proposal is approved it would go into effect on december 1st. jon: i will keep that in mind. >> movie theaters won't like this. imagine the popcorn. >> i love to fill it with as
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