jenna: we will see you in an hour. outnumbered sparks now. >> this is outnumbered. i am andrea tantaros and here is andrea smith, kimberly guilfoyle, author of the new book making the case how to be a best advocate, co-anchor of after the bell, melissa frances and one lucky guy flew in from the west coast back to the couch a tv superman actor dean cain, his new movie, the action thriller he is outnumbered yet again. >> i am happy to be outnumbered.

look at this group of ladies, casual friday. >> you are starting on the right note. >> very happy to be here. >> this is a good crew. let's get right to it. get ready for a n military jargon you may not have heard. the obama administration weighs how to defeat isis. the white house says the president is open to establishing a series of outpost's called lily pads. that is where american advisers would work with iraqi troops and local tribesmen end the bases would be manned by iraqis and americans would not engage in ground combat but they would play a more active role close to to the front lines and could increase the number of u.s. troops over is there. this is after the administration announced the opening of a new base in and bar province, an isis stronghold with an additional 450 american troops

but 4 republican presidential nominee mitt romney is giving that move a big fund is down. saying the president is going at this backwards by sending american troops in harm's way with no clear mission or objectives. governor mitt romney was on the kelly file last night. >> stand back and say it is disconcerting for the commander-in-chief to send 415 men and women into harm's way and still we don't have a strategy for you to be successful. the president is going about this backwards. we are putting in a few people here and there without knowing why they are there or what they're supposed to accomplish what the end game is. we don't send men and women into harm's way until we understand the mission from the beginning, how we know whether we have won and how we get out. >> does mitt romney make a point? it is not just the mission the president hasn't articulated. it is the goals and the most important thing is defining who we are fighting. he hasn't called out the enemy. there are three huge things

missing when you send americans whether they are advisers or troops into harm's way. >> that is a perfect example of why i voted for mitt romney for president. very clearly defined strategy. they would love to hear that from their commander-in-chief. we need to take the gloves off of our fighters having advisers there, tough to be in and we are slowly inching back, mission creep all that stuff will happen in these men and women put themselves in harm's way, at and it is a flat out misnomer. you have combat boots on the ground, and i am not ronald reagan fan, peace through strength and the stronger we are out there, the better our negotiations will be period. >> if you look at the numbers there will be 3500 american troops on the ground and these

advisory positions which is equivalent to an iraqi brigade. attended bill cowan was on happening now and he said this is not what we need. the iraqis need leadership which we should be the ones leading on these lily pads. >> lily pads, they also call them for operational bases, these are going to be targets for isis because they will be in strategic positions to disrupt any operational supplies coming in from the militants, from isis they will try to be in those positions but they will be in harm's way so will they be supported or just targets and are we further and in an unnecessary reckless way endanger ring american lives. i share that concern with the former governor, mitt romney. i don't know that there's a clearly defined plan which seems to be in response to the polls, just throwing some numbers at it, some bodies to look like he is doing something but it is it

the right call? >> using the lily pads you think of frogs but i think of sitting ducks. i think this is not going to disrupt isis. i think it might draw them in a little closer. kimberly mentioned the number break down for us $2.74 billion spent to date fighting isis, $9 million per day and it is a fight many military experts say we are losing. >> it is one thing to talk about throwing warm bodies and to harm's way, more american soldiers into harm's way without a defined strategy and the money angle, the first airstrikes began in august, the american people sent $3 billion fighting isis, that comes under $9 million a day, 55% of that on air strikes, in quarter of that weapons and arrest involved in missions with military carriers. if you are talking about a lot of money and unlimited amount of money at this time with no

defined strategy from our commander-in-chief. >> if they don't take military action, what if they are attacked? then what? we have known before the iraqi military dropped weapons and ran the other way so what's our advisers of this duty we need one adviser to say you are screwed and the. we don't need 3,000. >> talk about not having. on the ground this is getting into icicles water and in jeddah time because we are progressing in this direction, sending more people over is there to reach out to sunni tribes to make connections, we need to be in or out, one or the other and this is a strategy that is sure-fire to lose. we need to do what we do decisively and this is more of exactly the opposite of that. you alienate everyone. >> like the hokey pokey, one in and one out. isis appears to be stepping up its efforts to recruit young

people. the terrorists releasing a new video showing a training camp for children in mosul, preteens learning martial arts and running through obstacle courses. it wraps up with a stage roadside attack. just one day after a 17-year-old on a student from virginia pled guilty to assisting isis making him one of the youngest americans to face such charges. years fbi assistant director andrew mccabe on something like this could happen. >> this is a young man that formerly had promised, and intelligent young man, he is articulate but seduced by this propaganda drawn in to this radical extremist ideology and showing you how seductive the propaganda is, how directly these terrorist organizations reach into our homes and speak directly to our youth. >> they are recruiting them quicker than we can kill limb. one small detail, this is happening in mozilla, where do

you think the lily pads are going to be? >> i feel bad for those advisers that are going over air because they should be protected and are going to be in harm's way. the thing i don't understand, my son is 15 years old, maybe it is because we fear in america are so sanitized to what is going on over it there, they're recruiting faster than we can kill them, we need to kill some faster. >> academics, likely reasons behind this trend, being seduced in what appears to be somewhat easy way and numbers that they're recruiting them includes a lack of maturity and the feeling of being disconnected from society couple with the seat availability and seductive quality of extremist the serial online. take whatever you want from that but bottom-line in every case

you see, facebook a pro isil blog, are on their. we were talking yesterday on the couch about how al qaeda was crumbling because isis is making terrorism more fun. giving and trucks, promising all these things and demographics are outweighing demographics in the west. if women are being recruited in the wives and wives are having multiple kids then they find their kids troubling images for jihad. >> we are talking about a couple things. the video yesterday, children being trained, that is evil at its worst. that video is so disturbing to watch it is just more and more evidence of something we can't ignore, training children to hate americans to kill and perpetrate evil. talk about teenagers getting disaffected and going online where their parents are my kids

are a lot younger, they don't have and medtronic and social media i am looking about what they're doing online, i am not with the mall the time and looking through the history, where are the parents and families in these situations? >> we don't get into the breakdown of the family. >> that is a huge problem. if you don't have parents around, they can be right for radicalization. >> former gained prosecuted in l.a. the d a's office you saw young men who fell disillusioned or disfranchised. it is a seductive, online presence and their campaign is seductive to people who are very vulnerable to being radicalized. they are winning the war on social media by far. parents very actively involved in making sure to instill the right values, they can become disaffected and susceptible to

this type of influence. >> general stanley mcchrystal said we need to win their minds but if we don't have an administration willing to talk about radical islam and identified the enemy and have colleges and universities that will talk about that without fear, radical islam and teach it how do we get young kids to stop joining isis if they don't do that? >> eventually they are going to know. will be as horrible, the veil will be pulled back and they will see it and hopefully they won't want to be in it. if they decide to go into it gloves are taken off, so much of a fight. >> that is the problem. >> hope they don't strike us first. looks like a cyberattack on government workers was worse than the obama administration acknowledged. a union head saying he believes hackers have sensitive

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>> welcome back to outnumbered. cyberattack on our government far worse than originally thought. the president of the american federation of government employees saying in a letter, quote, we believe the central personnel data file was the target database and the hackers are in possession of all personnel data for every federal employee, every federal retiree and up to 1 million a former federal employees. that includes social security numbers and birth dates. the office of personnel management has tried to downplay the scope and seriousness of this breach. when first reported last week the agency settle limited personal data are identifying disinformation was breached.

we know that is not the case. it is pretty much everything on every one 100% of their information was taken. >> when you look at what they did it seems they are trying to compile the data base where they know everything about government employees and looking for ways to profiles them, whether that is for blackmail purposes down the road, no one really knows but when you talk to ceos who are in charge of cybersecurity, companies like one of our greatest companies in the u.s. they don't work closely with the government enough. no matter what, they don't want to be near the nsa but behind closed doors they say the opposite. they want to work with the government to help us protect ourselves and companies from outside hackers the government is not cooperating, it is a situation we are not solving

very well. we have to take this more seriously. >> cybersecurity is one of the biggest threats on the table rudy guiliani was on yesterday and said that. one of the biggest threats, so many people were affected and the breach when on for so long and dejected. over a a year went by. >> what does rudy guiliani know? is amazing so terrifying but the fact it agencies talk to each other and do we know that? >> beijing, shocker. shocker. united states needs to get back?

>> absolutely. we didn't do this but if you think we did, you are considering coming after us, we will consider this an act of war by the united states of america against china. china is outpacing us in this area no shame about it they steal what they can because they want technology, and military secrets to improve their own capability as it relates to nuclear submarines, making them quieter and for the u.s. to detect some of their vessels of they copied our technology, the biggest crooks on the block. >> the information is out there. what will they do with it? >> that is the scary thing. i don't think the administration is doing nothing. think about the big story out of washington d.c. the big trade deal. with the one country selectively and deliberately and shrewdly left out of the trade deal by the administration and most congressional republicans? china. i think the president sticking

it to them, that is why republicans are on board that is blasting the chinese want. and we are trading with them the chinese were left out of that, left out of this deal, very smart. it is still does not resolve the problem you have said which was they're getting information, at this is an time when the administration on the other side of their mouth is arguing to have more government control and have them have more access about information through obamacare and government programs. >> the companies can't get government to help out, they're spending a fortune. >> with competing against u.s. corporations. >> it is nuts. hillary clinton about to introduce the new star of her campaign talked about her late mother and lifelong lessons from her mom about everyday struggles. will this resonate with

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>> ready for hillary? new york city former secretary of state officially rolls out her campaign with all the trappings of a boisterous political rally but we may see a side of hillary we rarely see. according to the campaign hillary will make her late mother the core of her speech and her campaign as she reachedes out to middle-class voters. she is expected to detail the lessons she learned from her mother who robbed working-class childhood foolhardy can't abuse. is this going to work? they are worried about the numbers. the big rollout bring out her

mom. >> what i don't understand is the cognitive dissonance of the campaign. you hear one message reestablishing the obama coalition which is minorities and younger voters but everything hillary clinton is doing is the opposite of that. she hasn't given a car, she is talking about dying her hair, talking about her mom and looking very grandmotherly talking about her grandchild sewing is the opposite of what she needs to be doing if she wants to put together the obama coalition. the real strategy is getting women. if she thinks she can get female voters to the polls, specifically single women she can put herself over the top and win. traditionally if you look at the numbers, white male voters don't turn out in her favor but maybe she can win. >> will all be roses every day with that scooby do -- >> her real problem what they're trying to address is reliability or lack thereof. she is not warm, somebody

anybody empathizes with or connects with. a lot of people know how they feel about her loved her, hate her, vote for her or not but they are bringing her mother back out and she is someone abandoned by her parents as a young -- living with paternal grandparents she worked as a housekeeper, her own mother has a tough story but they brought out an ad in 2007 before she lost in iowa so she tried this before. the problem is humanizing her and i don't know they have done that. >> that is a compelling story about her mother but americans might be saying what does that have to do with why i should vote for you. it is not hillary's story per se. >> i am not voting for her. not going to happen. i voted for her husband who was extremely likable. a real ability to talk to

people, a whole different person. she is not him. as a candidate she has a record as secretary of state that i don't like. benghazi was a big problem. i can't ever get past that and the private e-mail scandal, that is a gigantic big goose egg. there is no way. no matter what they do i will never trust her as of voter. i can't trustor i can't give her my vote. >> how will this connect and relate? >> it is about her like ability or lack thereof and humanizing her but a lot of this is about the money. she has the opposite of what most americans had too much according to some critics looking at her campaign she made $30 million last year. if you were to point out the fact that she came from lot modest upbringing maybe this could improve the way middle america looks at her. they look at her now as a pretty

rich woman. a majority. comments like i got to pay the bills. >> your favorite. she loves bringing out her mom. we have seen her do this before. campaign school to see what resonates with people and those e-mails i was e-mailing about my mom's funeral because it polled well going back to her phoniness. wishy needs to fix. the other big-name announcing a white house run in coming days is jeb bush. on monday former florida governor jeb bush is expected to officially announce his candidacy and also he is getting big endorsements from top florida republicans, reportedly including 11 of the state at 17 republican members of the u.s. house but george was -- jeb bush is joining a massive field that will keep growing. of our ten republicans have declared and plenty of time for more to jump in the race and they will be jumping in the

race we heard about donald trump also jumping in the race, scott walker has yet to jump in the race. and ran out of room on screen. >> release small picture is going to be the entire screen. is this a modern-day record for candidates? i can't remember any point in time they're being this many people coming in but how does jeb bush distance himself? his name is jeb bush disease already distanced from the crowd just by that. >> blessing or a curse? >> bose, depends on who is voting lose something he has to define. there will be 18 by the end. what will it be? >> it will be tough to break ahead but back to the money point, this is something you have been talking about. he is amassing a huge -- can money change the minds of likely republican primary voters a lot of whom are very conservative and already have their mind up,

like or not like? >> he can raise a lot of money, he has the ability to raise a lot of money and put up a good fight in this race separating him from the pack but i have been saying, we asked marco rubio with such a big field going to hurt or help the republican party eventually help and bring out the best person, and need to focus on the economy. jeb bush needs to bring it back to what americans care about and explain what he did in florida, what did he do? he cut taxes showed willingness to do that. if he can explain to the american people about everyone here businesses across the country that will be a good thing to focus on. it might not be what he wants to talk about because in the republican primaries as much as he wants to talk about the economy they want to get him on common core and other e shoes and almost like that gained mentality where they gained on the one when he enters the race i can see that happening. >> hillary has a likability problem, jeb bush has an

excitement problem. not a lot of people are excited about him and he is enormous war chest and republicans should hope that doesn't the money doesn't just eclipse the other candidates who might have a better shot at that. that should be the main focus among republicans, you know who is on the opposite side. republicans need to pick the person best suited to be hillary because that person you would think would be more palatable almost no matter what republicans and hillary clinton, rally behind that person as opposed to the person who has the most money. >> that is not how republican primaries go. they are thinking how conservative they are in the minds of likely voters and jeb hasn't had the best headline so far aside from headlines about his great fundraising, he has had trouble with iraq campaign shake-up stories. a good couple weeks and has to have a good and impressive roll to distinguish himself not only from his brother and father but

gop contenders that i'm very hungry. you have seen nobody backing off. they all want to get, fox news is holding a second presidential debate for the candidates that will make the main prime-time debate qualifications so that will be interesting but i like that. let everybody get in and get after it. why you should be the next president, the candidate and i am the one to be her. >> a two year stage. >> making the case. is that the name of your book? >> i will be doing that. >> i would rather see you do that. personally -- floyd may weather topping the list, speaking of boxing, highest paid athletes in the world, raking in a cool $300 million. what to do with that money. what is wrong with society when a boxer makes 6,000 times more

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$67 million, raising questions about our priorities as pro athletes make thousands of times more than middle-class folks, police, teachers, nurses, many struggling to make ends meet. what do you make of this? you were at one point a professional baseball player. >> my contract was $76.3. it is a free market for those guys and if they can earn the money god bless them, go get it, with actors and entertainers, you earned it, go ahead and do it, lebron james is the best basketball player in the world, lionel messy or christian rinaldo are the current best soccer players in the world. only one or two people can get there. i say they earned the money. teachers and police officers are woefully underpaid but there are a million other reasons. >> so much money is coming from sponsorship deals. let the free market work, that is how much money they can make.

>> it is about entertainment escapism, wish fulfillment, the reason those guys make some much money as little kids want to go out and buy their jerseys and also escaped from their everyday life and they're boring jobs and watch these games and support it. where we go wrong is when you see kids wanted growth to be professional athletes and don't have a hope of doing that. they are not going to be professional athletes of any type. sorry, kids. like elon musk. >> i tell them if you want to idolize someone look at someone like elon musk who is out there making rocket ships real things making electric cars. >> using government subsidies. >> taking advantage, he is playing the game the way the rules were dealt to him. >> he made the best of that. we have a problem with this?

there are doctors out there that operate on infant's breens they do amazing work. why doesn't the market renders them? >> you are the best brain surgeon in the world you are not taking home a couple dollars a year, you are probably making millions of dollars and making what the market will pay you but i agree the only difference is a soccer star retiring early, another point is a lot of these athletes of our really attractive and that is why they get big sponsorship deals. rinaldo is so attractive, he breaks cameras he is so good looking but he gets the sponsorship deals because he is handsome and composed a number of -- >> i have been seeing that a lot. and hundred athletes, billion dollars combined end in small

countries and those companies are profitable for them. that is why they're doing it, paying them a force and not losing money. >> the market supports it, why not? i do it on pay-per-view, i love boxing so that guy -- was a little bit disappointed. $100 or something i would have gotten that. >> be honest. >> i love soccer. >> renault the -- >> all right. you know that movie good fellows? those gangsters something about that movie. to doesn't? according to one film critic women don't. now he is feeling the backlash after writing a piece on why women just don't understand the movie. they don't get it. ♪

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>> we have more outnumbered for you but jenna lee will tell you what is happening in happening now. >> we are expecting a key vote in the house on a big trade bill that will allow the president to negotiate a massive trade deal with asia. many democrats are opposed to that. the president is lobbying on capitol hill. we have the results and where does next. molly lie and is there joining us with the latest on the help criminals may have gotten from inside the prison and the dow taking a big hit a 150 points. possibility of a greek default, stocks lingering keeping an eye on your money and we will have that on the top of the hour. happy friday. >> the movie good fellows reached its 25 food and everyone film critic at the new york post is feeling the social media backlash after publishing a

piece called women are not capable of understanding good fellows. he writes to a woman they are low lives, to guys they are hilarious they are heroes. when the sex in the city girls in around at brunch a tightly knit click but their rule is always be sympathetic and supportive as each describes her problems. and jell-o shows us guys hang out together and don't like to talk about the women in their lives because is too real. one thing to say to kyle smith at the post to shares are building, go get your shay ryan box and come down and join us on the couch because we have a thing or two to teach you about women. i love that movie along with godfather ii and casino. what do you think? we don't get good fellows? >> i love the movie i think it is fantastic, a classic they talk about the character from

good fellows, i think it is cool, classic movie, i love films like that, i love the film bad boys. i just love it. martin lawrence whatever. i.t. of these movies. i don't want to watch steel magnolias. >> it was really big, i love the fashion step complain about everything, got sold. lisa and men? do you think men don't understand good fellows? >> this guy is right for. i am kidding. we are talking about kyle smith and his outlandish over the top statement, he got exactly what he wanted. a big reaction and that is it and if i produced it i would be very happy because numbers will spike back up again. >> what do you think? talking about good fellows being the guy buddy movie, everyone has their back, he forgot in

this end ray toyota turned everyone in. what great friends they are. >> that is what he wrote. this is a small group of guys who always have your back, women since they are irrelevant to this fantasy and it bothers them. >> whyou put that on? >> seriously. women -- are friends with each other. he wrote this to get this response and made him awfully happy. >> written by women in would be described as henry hill victimized by abuse at an early age traumatized by the responsibilities of caring for and handicapped brother, victim of a criminal element when social service agencies were sadly lacking. is that how you would describe it? >> that is how liberal would describe the movie. forget about it. forget about it. i love the sopranos and all these movies. i am not going to confront kyle

in the elevator but he is a little off base on this one especially in new york city where women are pretty tough. we are not exactly -- >> only difference i will acknowledge with men and women is we don't walk around quoting it all day like men do. >> we don't -- >> i had a number of people get their shine box, i do quote this one of fair bit, but it is funny talking about how it is the entourage of the last decade or two, celebrating 25 years but there you go now. he is not your daddy's that man, dc comics's new caped crusader ditch the cape and body armor and replace it with the skin tight bodysuits but the the action hero's new physique cause body image issues for males? one lucky guy, superman, feel

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supreme hero's chiseled and muscular body but one riders worried it could cause body he shoes for smale readers. to you first the man on the couch. >> i have a lawsuit the reason being they took a shot of me early on posing for the superman costume and clearly put that on the batman. that is certainly me. i am 12 years old there. this comic book artist, amazing, that stuff looks awesome. good for batman. >> might make somebody not good about themselves. >> thank you for coming to me. they are all skin tight. >> i was bad girl, cat woman, didn't go so well hard rock in vegas, lots of girls tried to jump me and pull my tail. >> where is the show going? >> the point it is ok for women

to wear skin tight stuff. we are worried about to collapse body each use. >> the rise of the metro sexual. >> you set the trend with your skin tight -- now look at that. all over the place. thanks to you. >> those are not friends that i endorse. >> you have the new movie out, a vendetta. >> it is of man movie. i go to jail to get my revenge on somebody who did something terrible the bad guy getting his come up, it is glory, bloody, tale within get some revenge. i did everything. the big show, 7 feet.

use it revenge isn't there something else. we're still talking about it. >> this is a fun movie to make. >> we adored making it.

if you ask for things in the right way, you can get ahead as kimberly taught us. >> i thought that i advocated on beapproximate half of myself. and now i realize i should be doing more. and you and your background and it is pretty revealing. and you know as a prosecutor as a child and you talked about your family life and that's what viewers enjoyed reading. we are all blessed so much on the couch and you can impact and reach someone and bring joy and financial happiness, why not. >> all right.

kimberly and dean cain melissa thank you for joining us on the couch. we'll be back monday. "happening now" starts right now. >> we begin with a fox news alert. president obama making a rare visit to capitol hill trying to twist arms ahead of a critical vote to give him trade authority. >> the president is trying to win over support from everyone. including the congressional democrats. we are covering the news now. >> it is like watching the movie. >> with two murderers still on the loose, fears are growing after an elaborate prison break. and new information on the prison worker who may have helped them escape. >> terrifying moments as a explosion ripped through the cafe. and now the search for