interesting. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, new accusations of racism and police brutality after a new video surfaces of a white police officer arresting some black residents this time in ohio. i'm megyn kelly. what started with a mother dropping off her kids at the pool has become a national debate. one of the children apparently broke the pool rules. he was asked to leave. his family objected and things went south from there. this is a different one from last week. just a short time later the scene in ohio looked like this.

[ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ screaming ] >> that mother her adult sister and a 15-year-old boy were arrested along with the 12-year-old girl. does the tape tell the whole story? the mom shown on that tape crystal dixon is here with her attorney. we hear from sheriff david clerk. first more in our west coast news room. >> we have more than five

minutes of video showing what happened before the incident during and after. for context we will show you the progression. it begins after the mom, crystal dixon, was asked along with the children to leave the pool. dixon confronts the pool staff asking for money back. when the staff declines she walks back into the park and you can see an officer approaches her and he begins asking her to leave. she refuses to leave and refuses to show her i.d. a park ranger then comes over at one point and starts threatening to make arrests unless they leave. that's when the officer appears to grab crystal dixon's arm. listen to this. >> don't touch my mom. >> don't touch my mom. >> don't touch my arm. >> get off. >> i ask you to go. >> get off. >> now to the 12-year-old girl in question. look at this surveillance video inside the pool staff building. you see the girl in the black bathing suit will walk over and

come and hit police. and then more kids come over as the camera switches angles. you can see they start hitting the officer. that is when a pool employee calls 911 and begins describing the very scene. listen to this. >> there are two officers here fighting with them. >> cell phone video shows an officer wrap his arm around the 12 year old's neck to move her from the wall to police cruiser. the girl begins screaming. a female police officer tries to calm her down. the family of the 12 year old says she suffered a broken jaw. while she was cuffed and crying on the ground the girl only complained about getting pepper spray in the eye with the officer telling her how to relieve the burning. listen to this.

>> blink your eyes. the more you blink. blink, blink, blink. >> now fairfield police also say crystal dixon asked one of the kids to get a taser from her purse. the police chief believes under the circumstances his officers acted with great restraint. the mayor believes the police acted properly and believe if she had just given her identification this all could have been avoided. >> thank you. joining me now is crystal dixon, the mother who dropped off the kids and who is subsequently arrested along with her attorney clyde bennett. let me start with the injuries to your 12-year-old niece. was she hurt? >> on behalf of ms. dixon i am not going to allow her to answer too many questions because she

has criminal charges pending against her. she can answer basic fundamental questions. if you ask her about what transpired that day you expose her to potential information that could be inconsistent with her best interests for the criminal trial. i will not permit her to answer questions about the case. >> let me ask you whether the 12-year-old niece was hurt. what were her injuries? >> my understanding was that she sustained serious injuries as a result of the altercation. >> keep in mind you have a 12-year-old girl -- that's my understanding. that's my understanding. you have a grown adult male trying to subdue a 12-year-old girl. how much force is necessary to subdue a 12-year-old female if you are an adult grown man? you have to take that girl and throw her against a car and you have an amount of force on her? if you do that is it plausible

to sustain injuries? the answer is yes. >> the problem is that moments before we see the officer do that to the 12 year old we see the 12 year old hitting the cop repeatedly in that other surveillance video that was not highlighted by the family's defenders. here it is on the screen. she punches the cop and then they turn the corner and more punching ensues. so the police say they were well within their rights. what say you to that? >> i have seen the video and i have seen what purports to be this young lady hitting the police officer. if you are a grown man, you are physically grown and have physical capability to subdue a 12-year-old girl without using excessive force what type of force is necessary to stop a 12-year-old girl from striking a grown man? the grown man can do a lot of things beside forcibly grabbing her and throwing her against a

motor vehicle and then pressing her body against the motor vehicle. >> what do you think of the moment -- the other piece of the surveillance where you see what appears to be the young woman punching the officer, he appears surrounded by family members. at that point the backup wasn't there. it was just this cop and one other. and they turn the corner and you see the family members come and one other cop. the police are saying he felt threatened. >> you saw small children and teenagers screaming and being frightened by the fact that their mother was being physically attacked by a police officer. you did not see children attacking the police officer but for the one 12 year old who made contact with him a couple ofims to. if you are a police officer you do not have to resort to that level of force in order to subdue a 12 year old. the other individuals were not making contact just surrounded by their mother frightened by

what was going on. >> i know that you are pregnant and expecting a baby and that was part of the issue between you and your sister. your sister did not want them to man handle you because you are expecting a baby. yet a lot of people see the tape and say then just comply. when the police tell you to do something just comply and deal with it later. what do you say? >> let me answer that question. >> are you going to let her answer anything? why is she here? why don't you just let her say what she wants to say? >> can i answer your question first? >> i want to hear from crystal because we are almost out of time. i am giving her the floor to say what it is she wanted to say to viewers tonight. go ahead, ma'am. >> can i make my point? and then i will let her speak. >> go ahead, clyde. >> there is a fundamental misunderstanding that wrou have to do what the police tell you to do. the fact of the matter is in the

law in this country and the state of ohio is that the police must have probable cause that you committed a crime and that you are about to commit a crime before they engage you, before they grab you. in america you can't just go up to a person and grab them. that is what happened in this case. that is wrong. >> i got it. >> when you ask the question you ask you are basically avoiding the misconduct. >> your point is why should she have to comply with what was an illegal order. that is going to be your argument. >> go ahead. tell us what you wanted to tell us tonight. >> you can speak with clyde. >> thank you both for being here. >> i got it. thank you both. with us tonight sheriff david clark. there you have it. the cops didn't need to use that amount of force to subdue a 12 year old and other family members. >> that was a textbook response by the police department totally

appropriate use of force. i think even a little more force would have been reasonable under the circumstances. they were getting no compliance to their lawful commands. i'm getting sick and tired of people engaging the police in these situations not complying, resisting arrest fighting the police and think the police should just go home. >> they say it wasn't a lawful command. he was stopping her demanding i.d. and she had no obligation to comply. >> it is not up to her or those folks as to whether it was lawful. that gets solved later on in a court of law. when an officer gives a lawful command like if they tell you to jump off a building that is not a lawful command. when they say to leave or put your hands behind your back or you are under arrest you must comply. when you get into a physical confrontation with a law enforcement officer i would like to use that for a training tape on how officers should behave

and respond in those situations. when you get into a physical confrontation with a law enforcement officer you can expect to get hurt because i expect that officer to win. i will answer the question as to how much force is necessary to get a 12 year old into custody, reasonable force. another reasonable force to overcome not meet resistance but overcome resistance. those officers acted appropriately. they were clear in their command and like i said they probably could have used other intermediate weapons, batons tasers to meet the physical resistance. they didn't. that was restraint beyond the call of duty. i am tired of these individuals thinking that they can confront the police in these situations and the police are going to back off. >> now there is an allegation of racism as well. >> there is no racism there. there is no racism. i'm tired of that too. every time a white officer confronts a black individual

right away people jump to race. i have one thing for those people in this situation here. i think there was a racial component, three words, shutup already. >> always interesting getting your perspective. thanks for being here sir. >> my pleasure. >> what do you think? facebook.com/thekellyfile. i can feel the comments coming. we also had a kelly file exclusive in the case of a student suing an elite new england college after the school refused to consider evidence that might clear him in a sexual assault case. for the first time his attorney speaks out and wait until you hear the new details. plus breaking news on brian williams and his future at nbc news. the big headline and then media reports surfaced that donald trump hired actors to cheer his presidential announcement. why not? the trump team is denying it and dana perino is next on why this could become a bigger deal. this man is accused of

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you can pay for a lot of things in life. you can pay for actors. he is very rich. one thing you can't pay for in american politics is votes. he has 62% negative rating with gop primary voters. and a lot of ways i think what is happening in this article is they are running for president. so things are different. so the hollywood reporter finds out there is an e-mail from the donald trump team to a casting agency saying we will you $50 for three hours of work if you wear a t shirt and clap for donald trump. that is called astroturfing. it happens. some campaigns do it try to steal a crowd with a bunch of people. it is frowned upon. you can do it. trump campaign is denying it. the casting agency is like i'm not going to return that phone call. when you are running for president you have to start answering a lot of things including specifics. >> maybe. hillary clinton doesn't.

maybe he will follow that model. if he does he doesn't have to answer for everything. what about donald trump? he is a successful businessman, tv star. we took herman cain seriously, both successful business executives. why not donald trump who has almost $9 billion in success? >> people are welcome to. i'm looking at the numbers. he has a 62% negative rating with the gop voters. that is a deficit you cannot buy your way out of. he will probably make the debate. if you say things to people that sound popular and they feel good like if you say i'm going to bring back all of the jobs from china that to me is political malpractice to say things like that to people who may have lost jobs in ohio and think maybe they don't think trump is going to get my job back. it is pretty serious business.

this is the most important job in the world. he is not the boss. he is auditioning for the job, interviewing for the job. at that point you have to be able to sell yourself not just your brand, but why you should be the person in the job. >> do you think he hurts the republican party as some have argued? they say he is going to be making crazy assertions about mexicans raping women and that is going to tarnish the gop brand. will it? >> i don't know. maybe in the eyes of like the mainstream media. they will give donald trump all of the air time that they possibly can to achieve that goal to make the republicans look silly. if you have 62% of republican primary voters saying i would never vote for him then i think what's in the republican party is not going to hurt them. >> dana perino, always interesting to get your perspective. also tonight big news on rachel dolezal. the naacp chief who had to quit

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breaking tonight new details on the beheading out of oklahoma. that was our lead story september 26 2014 the day after the brutal beheading of one american woman ask the attempted beheading of another inside a food packaging plant in moore, oklahoma. we learned the only suspect was this man, a recently released convict and convert to islam.

the vicious brutality of the attack shocked the entire country. as we learn more about noland, his violent past and interest in radical islam the nation paid attention. trace gallagher brings us back to that day with the interview with the one woman who survived the attack. >> the reason he was suspended from his job is because two female employees filed a complaint that he made inappropriate religious and racist statements and that he quote, didn't like white people. immediately after being suspended he admitted going home grabbing a large bladed knife and returning to get revenge against those who complained. here is the initial 911 call. >> what is your emergency? >> moore, oklahoma. we have someone attacking someone in the building.

>> that someone was 54-year-old colleen huff rd who was attacked from behind and beheaded. the killer went after 43 tracy johnson and now for the first time johnson talks about her horrifying ordeal exclusively to "the kelly file." >> so he got to you and what happened next? >> he started slicing my neck. i have a hole in my face. he cut a hole in my right index finger and wouldn't stop. and i'm screaming for help. and didn't think anybody was going to come around. >> but the cfo who is both a reserve sheriff's deputy and a member of their elite force grabbed a rifle and opened fire wounding nole nd and stopping the attack.

his actions gained him national attention and awards for heroism. here he is. >> i'm very grateful that i was there. i don't know how i would be mentally if i wasn't. i don't view myself as a hero. i view myself as put in a position i was prepared. >> prepared in the nick of time to save the life of tracy johnson. listen again. >> do you think he was trying to decapitate you? >> yes, ma'am. >> he was actually in the process of beheading you? >> yes. he got a millimeter within my jugular. >> where did he cut you? >> the right side of my neck. >> would you mind showing us? >> all right here. >> did he slice you or did he stab you? >> sliced me. he was slicing me. >> and other employees say while he was slicing and attacking he

was shouting arabic statements. we know he converted to islam and that his social media foot print included a depiction of someone beheaded with a quote that read i will instill terror in the hearts of unbelieveers. he used his facebook page to celebrate the attacks of 9/11 showing twin towers burning and posting islam will dominate the world and we need more for allah. the fbi was brought in and the debate began over whether it was work place violence or terrorism. many believe terrorism cut and dry. it is murder which is what the d.a. charged. tracy johnson can't decide if terrorism or racism was the motivating factor. >> thank you. tomorrow night our exclusive interview with tracy johnson, the one woman who survived that attack that day in moore,

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very few rights is known as john doe. he hired a lawyer and discovered evidence which appears to clear him in the case but amhurst will not hear him. john doe's attorney began an interview with me tonight by elaborating on the nature. >> she started by saying it was all coerced, but then when she got to the investigative stage and then said actually it was -- i did it willingly at first and changed my mind in the middle. >> just so viewers can see what she testified to because we have a transcript to it. john raped me the night of february 4, 2012. in my initial report i did not agree to perform oral sex at the beginning. i said no repeatedly and

physically pushed against him john did not listen and held me down. is it not plausible, has it not happened in prior rape cases that a victim consents and even though it may seem preposterous to some says i no longer consent. >> the fact that she willingly consented at the beginning at a time in her testimony and the findings of the panel mr. doe was himself incapacitated should have left the panel to conclude that she had committed sexual misconduct and not him. beyond that it became clear that in fact she was really the moving force behind the sex for the entire event. >> so the audience knows john doe had his hearing and was expelled and then his ex girlfriend who is the room mate of the alleged victim here came

forward and said hold on. in that hearing i, the girlfriend of john doe, told the investigator that there were text messages they needed to follow up on. and she now swears i was surprised to see they never followed up on it they never called the witnesses involved in texting the alleged victim on the night in question. and so now she says i will set the record straight. i have obtained the texts and here they are. these texts show the alleged victim the accuser that night saying my room mate knows me. i wasn't an innocent bystander talking about she is going to break it to the room mate that she had a sexual exchange with the room mate's boyfriend saying i just did something so stupid. and then she laments that he was too drunk to make a good lie out of it when the room mate comes back. you bring all of this. john doe brings this after the

fact and says hello. what does amhurst say? >> amhurst considered it for a year and declined to do anything about it. >> you're claiming that this is a denial of john doe's due process rights and that it was gender discrimination against a college male? >> well that's right. there was no fair procedure here. he was told on november 1 that he was charged with an offense that occurred nearly two years before. within six weeks there was a hearing, expelled labelled offender. his future was in ruins. he wasn't allowed to have a lawyer and wasn't allowed to investigate if he knew how to investigate because he was told he couldn't speak to anyone about it. he had to go through this -- given an adviser who was a

member of the administration who was prohibited from advocating on his behalf. >> so most damming testimony as i see it -- put her to the side in the proceedings was somebody by the initials of l.r. who told the investigator that john doe confessed the assault to her. how do you defend that? >> well in fact nobody believed that. investigator didn't believe her. it is clear the hearing panel didn't believe her. john doe was so intoxicated that everyone agreed that he was incapacitated and they therefore discredited the notion that he had confessed. >> the texts that were revealed after the hearing that could have been revealed during the hearing included the revelation that the alleged victim had a sexual encounter with another man.

do you think that something more -- something should happen to sandra jones? >> we are not interested in prosecuting ms. jones but interested in getting relief for this man who was a wonderful student. he was a first generation citizen of the united states. hoo he was doing so well. the world was his oyster and in a six-week period of time his future was in complete ruins. >> how is he today? >> he suffers from shame and embarrassment. he is depressed. he doesn't sleep at night. >> he has no college degree and he has been labelled a discipline problem by the school. thank you for coming on and telling us his story. >> thank you for having me. sandra jones is the alias used for the alleged victim in the case. why is a larger media not

covering john doe's story? i want to get to the brian williams news in a minute but where are the media on this? where are they? >> i haven't seen a major media report except in home state and if john doe would come forward that would help drive the story. male college students don't make sympathetic victims in the eyes of the media. that is a designation for women especially in these cases where the assumption is men are pigs. in some cases the charges turn out to be not true and i see very little interest on the part of the mainstream media. >> what about the "rolling stone" case? shouldn't the media have their antenna up to tell the other side? not every allegation is true. >> the "rolling stone" debacle should have reminded us all that

sometimes these allegations turn out to be false, exaggerated. i didn't know about this story until you reported on it. seems to me the text messages in real time from the woman who was the accuser kind of blows the school's case out of the water. there are some disputed facts. you would think this would be a story for more than "the kelly file." >> devastating to this woman's case. she can never pursue this case in a court of law. i want to switch gears. there is big news out of nbc news and brian williams. have they reached a decision on his future? >> people familiar with the process tell me that brian williams is not expected to return to nbc anchor chair but will remain with the network under this scenario handed over to lester holt. it was impossible in the wake of brian williams making up the story and other questions that

was such a strong revolt maybe not too strong a word by many in the news division against him returning to the anchor chair. as it dragged on it became difficult for nbc to bring him back. people i have talked to expect he could go to msnbc which has been ratings challenged. or he could become a correspondent or a combination of the two. >> wow. that's an amazing story for someone who was at the top of his game not that long ago. confirming it tonight. the "new york times" confirming it. we appreciate it. good to see you. also tonight, the white woman who quote identifies as black may be looking at a big new gig. plus what happened when a big soccer official suggested the reason women's soccer is getting more popular has little to do with the women's athletic skills. we'll take that up.

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reality tv show. of course she does. >> so hasn't gone well her coming out party. the world got the chance to know her. two separate production companies have approached her about doing a reality show. she according to radar online more are coming because of her family and bizarre things that have come out. >> we are going to see like the makeup routine? >> she hunted as a child for dinner with a bow and arrow. >> no she didn't the parents say. >> turns out it is not true. this might turn out like every reality show. there is real to rachel and real to us. i ask the reality experts who are located in our room if this show comes off and it is bizarre, what does it remind you of? i put it in the category of buck wild where it is like jersey shore to rural community or amish mafia which did not last

long or the category of bridalplasty where different brides compete to change the way they look right before the wedding and the category of dancing in the dark where two people talk to each other in the dark and turn lights on and see if they want to date. >> i have to get to netflix and hulu. in other weird news that you don't think could be real but is, the upper west side of manhattan is a lovely place. now you can be a racist not only against people but dogs. >> here we go. you have to get a dna test if you have a mutt and have to go to a veterinarian to make sure you have the type of dog that this condo complex which is luxury will find acceptable. >> no weiner dogs or hot dogs. >> if you have a shih tzu and you don't have to bleep that if you have a maltese, palmom don't

apply. there was an issue with aggression. >> look at bosh in her halloween outfit. >> if you have a st. bernard don't apply. a pit bull basset hound. >> president obama has said bans on certain dogs are ineffective. >> i want you to walk away with and viewers to go home with -- most of them here -- you have a lot of great facilities and everything is shiny and clean. i'm not saying "fox & friends" isn't. i could use some -- it is the owners not the breeds. it's the owners. it's not how big your dog is or

how small. >> bailey is my aggressive side and bosh is my sweet side. women's soccer is in trouble but not according to the brazilian football confederation who thinks they look hot and are getting attention. >> 5 million people watched women's soccer last night. the ratings have gone up 285%. the brazilian soccer federation thinks they know why. for a while they were dressed like men. now if you want to be popular women now dress up, they look elegant. they wear shorter shorts and tighter shirts. you know what i blame? i blame women. >> really? >> because women are watching. men would imply they like this. >> the cause of and solution to all of men's problems. >> i think i just ended up with a disgender. >> this is an enlightened man.

why don't you come on and have a discussion about why you think women are doing so well in soccer. that ought to be interesting to watch. >> it would be fun to watch you talk soccer. >> great to see you. also tonight big news out of washington where they declared war on french fries. no artificial flavors, colors sweeteners preservatives, and no artificial smiles. because clean dressings, taste better. panera. food as it should be. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands

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well you may have heard that the food and drug administration is looking to ban transfats. my next guest is wondering why the obama administration wants to take on french fries but not

isis. >> find me an enemy he can name. he warns this military graduation warns them about climate change. now he with agree he's going to protect us from microwave popcorn and french fries. i've got a deal i'm a father as well as a governor. i'm a husband. i'll protect my kids from the orio cookies if he will do his job and protect us for the terrorists. >> you have to walk and chew gum at the same time. transfats are really bad. they sky rocket the bad cholesterol. why should we eat them? >> i'm sure it's true. we could live forever if we ate nothing but kale. this is my choice. you're probably right. i would remind folks it was the government that pushed transfat. this was supposed to be the healthy stuff. they said eat this, don't eat butter. the science is right. the point is this, we don't need a nanny state.

why is this the administration's priority? we have an enemic economy. we have iran on the verge of becoming a nuclear power. radical islamic terrorists on the loose. i wouldn't mind this if he said radical islamic terrorists is the real enemy. >> he's concerned about radical transfats. >> we'll have an announcement on june 24th. you have an invitation it you want to come down and do your show. i've been praying and talking to my wife. we'll make our announcement next wednesday. if i get in this race it's about making a big change. we have a president who is trying to turn the american dream into the european nightmare. he describes success as more borrowing, mowre taxing. we need big change. we've tried on-the-job training.

we have a first term senator that gives great speechers. there are a lot of talkers running for president, we need somebody that can get the job done. >> i don't know who you might be referring to. i have no idea. good to see you, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> we'll be right back don't go away. a love affair. a quest. the next horizon. everyone loves the chase.

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woman nearly beheaded on u.s. soil by a radicalized co-worker speaks out for the first time. her story is harrowing. don't miss it tomorrow night. live on "the kelly file." we'll see you then. welcome to "hannity" we're broadcasting in trum tower where yesterday donald trump announced he is running for prooensesident of the united states. he will be our guest for the full hour. here is how this went down yesterday. >> our country needs a truly great leader. we need a truly great leader now. we need a leader that wrote the art of the