of 21-year-old dylann roof says he allegedly ranted that black people were taking over the world and something had to be done for white race. he is now in custody. charleston's historical ame church is being investigated as a hate crime. the victims were shot following a bible study and prayer session. roof sat with them for nearly an hour before opening fire. wednesday night's attack coincided with the release of new data by the justice department. it reveals the number of hate crimes has been on the decline in recent years, down by more than 1800 incidents since 2008. i'm jackie ibanez. much more on the charleston church massacre, next on "hannity." all right, thanks, megyn. this is a fox news alert. the city of charleston, south carolina, is mourning tonight after a mass shooting at a historically black church that left nine people dead last night. the suspect identified as

21-year-old dylann roof was arrested earlier today some 240 miles away in shelby north carolina. he has now been flown back to charleston to face charges. now police are still trying to determine a motive but it appears to be racially charged. joining us now live at the scene of the arrest is our own mike tobin. mike? >> reporter: sean, this really is a remarkable example of the authorities, the media and the public working together. that's why you arrived at that rapid arrest with dylann roof being taken into custody before 11:00 this morning. this is where he made his initial appearance. this is also where the shelby police chief said the tip that got him arrested came from a business. we now know that business was a florist or a flower shop and the tip really goes back to one of the employee debbie dills, who was driving to work late. she spotted that 2000 hyundai elantra on the road. she'd seen it all over the airwaves, all over the news. she drove up close and got a look at that bowl haircut on

roof also that she had seen on the air. she made a call, not to the police but to her boss at work. he called police. that's why they said the call came from a business. she pulled away initially and then she said she felt compelled to keep following that hyundai. she stayed on the phone with her boss ultimately 35 miles until she arrived at a point where she saw lights were flashing. she said he never drove fast, never drove erratically, he just kept on driving. incidentally, in her interview, debbie dills said she prayed a lot, and she believes that god put her in position to make that call sean. >> all right, mike tobin, thank you. it has been a very emotional day in south carolina. watch this. >> we woke up today and the heart and soul of south carolina was broken. and so we have some grieving to do and we've got some pain we

have to go through. parents are having to explain to their kids how they can go to church and feel safe and that is not something we ever thought we'd deal with. >> governor nikki haley, her emotions very understandable. tonight we're learning more about the shooter, dylann roof was reportedly arrested for a different incident a few months ago. police charged him for using a controlled substance. some report the drug found on him are used to treat opiate addiction. joining me now, geraldo rivera, dr. about ablow, we've had so many of these incidents, one after another, sandy hook, columbine, aurora, where we keep looking at these

medicines the kids are on, the drugs that they're taking, the psych drugs that they're taking. in the end are we going to find this is another case of that? >> well, sean suboxone is an opiate. the combination of the two acts a little bit like methadone, if you used to be on oxycodone and or percocet or heroin and getting tolerant to it and using more and more. >> but dr. ablow, you're basically replacing one opiate for another if you're on oxycontin or oxycodone. then you take this suboxone aren't you substituting one opiate for another, but you don't need the increase in doses? >> yes. some people procure this to get high and some people trade it

it is a drug of abuse as well. they'll trade it for other drugs. what we seem to know about this young man is that he either needed this to detox from an opiate or he procured it on the street. either way he has a history of some kind of drug dependency or drug abuse. >> how do drugs prescribed to get off opiates get abused by them? >> because addicts are cagey. and they'll swap them for other kinds of street drugs. what i've learned in 25 years of practicing psychiatry, where there's one street drug and even one used to treat addiction, there may well be others. and there are so many designer drugs now that you would want to know that about this person. were there other drugs involved. my gut feeling on these psychiatric drugs present at these violent scenes is that more psychiatry was needed not less. that there was not enough in the way of a holding environment.

>> but columbine, aurora, sandy hook, there's this mysterious reluctance and resistance to reveal this to the public and often it's a long time after the incidents occur that we actually find out about it but it happens often. so you're saying maybe these drugs are prescribed but not monitored. and do you suspect based on this earlier drug arrest that this could have played a part. >> it certainly could have. the fact that they're involved this these events doesn't mean they caused them. it might mean these folks are psychiatrically ill but not getting the help that they need. so we need to tease it apart. i agree, sean we should look very deeply into it. >> all right. let me go to geraldo. geraldo, we do know some things here. we know that one survivor begged him to stop. another survivor was allowed to live and was told i'm going to let you live because i want you to tell the world what happened. another case where one of these shooters wants fame. apparently the shooter said i

have to do it, you rape our women, you're taking over our country, you have to go, which indicates perhaps with this historically black church that this is racially motivated. so my question to you is i know we often go into the psychology of people that commit these crimes, but this sounds to me that somebody who can walk into a church, sit in a bible study for an hour, it's pure, unadulterated evil to me, it's just in the heart of this person and no amount of gun control that is going to stop that. your thoughts. >> i absolutely agree. this was a racist judas. this was man who inculcated himself into the parishioners these wonderful people at a prayer meeting here at this historic church the mother emanuel ame church, the second oldest ame church in the country. this was a person that seeped of evil, that he may have used

drugs or was high at the time. i don't know anything about that but i do know that he sat for an hour with these people. he looked in the eyes of the pastor and other people pretending to care about their bible studies, to be a sincere adherent to christianity when instead he was plotting the savage murder. and then you talk about the utterance. i'm here because you're raping our women and taking over our country. this is a pathological, sick person. this is just like a member of the kkk without the hood. this is charles manson, someone who tried to start a race war. by slaughtering innocents, sean. this is a despicable human being, and i don't even give him credit for being sick. >> dr. ablow, we can psycho analyze this kid's brain from now till the cows come home but he obviously had a racist intention and there's something inherently evil and dark about a human being that can sit there

in a prayer environment with people for an hour getting to know their good heart and then pull out a weapon and just start firing. >> listen, sean most, in my opinion, and this is a great philosophical debate. it's a great debate to have on your show. it's very high minded. the most evil i have learned is illness. maybe all of it. the bottom line is we're going to find out this is a sick kid. now, the ability to sit there for an hour -- >> wait a minute. is evil spiritual? are you saying that evil is biochemical? i think most spiritual counselors would argue it's the former. >> i think you can live on through things that are so painful and so traumatic that they have a neurochemical toll, and they have a toll on your spirit. maybe the two things have confluence. if we look at this kid, this young man's life history, no doubt there are things about it

that will curl the hair at the back of your neck. and these aren't accidents. i've yet to find anyone who do horrific things who didn't live through horrific things. i don't think that's a coincidence. >> geraldo, there was the earlier comment, i'm not going to dignify it by playing it, that this blame on the fox new channel, i've watched a lot of incendiary things being said on msnbc, for example, by the reverend al sharpton, at freddy's at 125th street on the morton downey, jr. show about what he -- the different epithets he has used against gay people and racist comments i think he has made about buildings, et cetera. your thoughts about that attack. >> you know i lament when people like that state senator talking to bill o'reilly earlier made that really wrong-headed dumbass remark about fox news. where does he get off saying

that? there is so much that is valid to report here. number one, that the people are of charleston south carolina have come together, black and white to mourn this awful loss. they are standing united, there's no violence here, there is just utter sorrow. and anger at the perpetrator. and i have my own anger. i look at the person that you and dr. ablow have described, and you accurately report that he had these run-ins with the law having to do with narcotics. it's clear that this kid in his late 20th year on earth was beginning to get into some very dangerous territory. they find the skinhead videos in his house, the other racist references. he is wearing the patches from south africa and from white dominated rhodesia back in the day. it's clear the kid is going through whatever that disintegration he's going through, but then on his 21st birthday, if these reports are correct and his father gives him

a .45, you give a drug adult troubled 20-year-old, you give him a .45? i would submit that the father is guilty of the grossest irresponsibility. but i also say going back to whether or not this guy is crazy, let me just use the layman's terms, i'm not a learned in the psycho analytical world. he is as crazy as all the other kkk members. he's as crazy as charles manson was when he thought that he also, as this kid did, could launch a race war by committing an atrocity so vile that it divided the races. taking advantage of the racial divide in this country i think manson, it's more about manson than it is even than the four little girls who were killed in the birmingham church bombing in 1963. it is an awful, awful event that happened here. i just -- my heart's broken. >> my heart's broken, too. you mentioned the facebook photo, the display of the

flag of the apartheid era of south africa or another flag of white rule in rhodesia, now zimbabwe, obviously. do we miss signs? we have a roommate who has come out and spoken and said that he was into segregation. he wanted to start a civil war. he said he was going to do something like this and kill himself. why almost in every case after the fact do we find out all the evidence was there, even posted on social media and then we say, oh, you know, all these people say, oh, we saw this was coming. how do we miss that, geraldo? >> look at adam lanza. his mother had guns all over the house there in newtown, connecticut. all over. and the kid was clearly going off the deep end. she missed it. and he killed her as a result. in this particular case, again, where was the dad? how can the father be so

disconnected from the son that the son arrested two times in the six months leading up to his 21st birthday and still give him a .45? and the fact that he had all of this racist paraphernalia in his room, you know, parents, the kid's living with you, you got a right to go in that room. you can't let this be a surprise to you. you can't unleash this sociopath, this heartless, hateful person to wreak this violence. these were the best sean these were the best, the pastor, the state senator, the people who have worked in this church 30 years, 40 years, people graduating college. these are people -- the nation weeps for what happened, what this punk did on this ground of all places. it's just something, sean, that is utterly utterly shocking and outrageous. >> all right, guys. we have to take a quick break here. we'll come back and

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me you need to know i'm going to be in glory with my brothers and sisters in christ that left here. >> the woman you just heard from is being hailed at a hero tonight. debbie dills reportedly saw south carolina shooting suspect dylann roof and helped alert police who arrested him earlier today in north carolina. the 21-year-old gunman is now in the charleston county detention center. we're expect him to be arraigned tomorrow. joining us live on the ground from charleston is fox and friends co-host ainsley earhardt is with us. and with us south carolina state representative peter mccoy jr. ainsley, i know you're from this area. i know this is a hard time for the community. tell us the very latest. >> hard time for our country, and definitely hard time for those of us who grew up here or live here because this is just not charleston. it's a loving place. it's a wonderful community. this is a historic area. and you've been here sean. you know how nice the people are here. and we all hate this, that it's happening here in this great city. and i'm here with representative

who represents this area. and i know that you were really good friends with representative pinckney. tell me what your relationship was like. he was democrat. you're republican. >> you made a terrific point when we started this interview. this is a city built on hospitality and love. the love shown over the past 24 hour gives me complete confidence that love will overcome what happened 24 hours ago. senator pinckney let me tell you about this man there are hundreds of people behind me right now still at this church waiting to take a picture, waiting to lay flowers. he was a senator and a great man that was called to serve god at a young age while he was still a teenager. he was with the president of the student body at allen university. he was a man who always thought before he spoke, he had a fantastic big booming voice. when he spoke, people listened. a man of honesty and integrity. he is an icon here and will be sorely missed.

>> he was very important. you looked up to him. any stories that come to mind? >> absolutely. being one of the more conservative members in the south carolina house, it's sometimes unusual to work with democrats. my very first bill dealt with concussions in student athletes and dealing with children. senator pinckney took a fantastic interest. once i passed it out of the house, i went to him right away. and he was the first senator to help me get that bill passed into law. he took an interest in children he took an interest in their well-being. he took the lead from there. >> sean he made an indelible impression on so many people here in charleston. we were out by the church earlier tonight. i want to show you video of people we met, an outpouring of a lot of tourists and people who live in the area who were there to lay down flowers in front of the church and light a candle. take a listen to what this community is all about. >> when you actually come here to the church, what went through your mind and your heart? >> my heart just sunk. i just didn't know what to say.

my heart just -- it's so bad right now. >> i just wanted to come down and show support for the families and there's not much that i can do or anybody can do. >> i think the lesson is sometimes we never know who is in the midst of us. we must be vigilant and cordial at all times. >> taking the lives of others in extreme manners is cowardice and weakness and it's shameful. >> what was your reaction when you heard the news? >> i don't know. i just cried. i couldn't believe it. >> how do we get past this as a country? >> i don't know, prayer. >> what's your reaction when you hear that? >> when i hear the reaction of the love and the outpouring of support that is coming not only across this state, but across this nation, it gives me hope that we will rise up has happened here, become a stronger city a stronger group of people and move past what's happened here.

>> let's change topics here. as a former prosecutor here in the charleston area, what happens next for the suspect? he was extradited here. what happens tomorrow? >> i prosecuted thousands of cases right here in charleston county. he's landed, he's in detention, over on leads avenue which is out the detention center. there will be a magistrate bond hearing tomorrow. but jurisdictionally they are not allowed to set a bend on a murder charge. so he will sit in jail until a circuit judge hears that bond. >> death penalty, can we expect that? >> i tell you right now, we have a fantastic solicitor in scarlett wilson. i think that scarlett needs to sit down with the federal government and decide because i know the feds are investigating here too, which one of those areas can basically punish this guy the most. and if there are aggravating circumstances you would go for with the death penalty. if i were prosecuting this case, i absolutely would go for the death penalty. if you go into a church and people are sharing faith and studying the bible and you murder innocent folks and basically lay terror on the city, that's an aggravating circumstance in my mind that

would call for the death penalty. >> sean, i lived on smith street which is just a few blocks over when i was doing an internship at the nbc affiliate here after college, living with my sister on smith street. i'm originally from columbia which is two hours away. and that is where the suspect was from. and my source my law enforcement sources in columbia i've been talking to them all day, they have said they went in and they searched his father's house. they didn't see any suspicious. then they went to his mom's house. they did find skin head paraphernalia and anti-african-american videos. it leads them to believe obviously that was evidence at the time of hate crime. and as you were speaking earlier, did talk to his roommate who said he had been planning this for about six months. back to you, sean. >> what a sad story. ainsley, thanks so much and all our best to the community out there. we go back to fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera who is on the ground for us tonight. i look at the life of this pastor and this senator. he began preaching at the age of 13. he was a pastor at the age of

18. graduated from allen university in '95, studied at princeton, the university of south carolina, lutheran theological southern seminary. he became the youngest african-american elected to the legislature when he was just 23 years old in 1996, got in the state senate in 2000. he was named as one of the african-american community's 30 leaders of the future by "ebony" magazine in 1999. he is survived by a wife and two young daughters. such an incredible story. what a future he had in front of him. what a sad, tragic loss of a great hubie all accounts. >> you know, i have to say something. what you just recited has made me more emotional than anything since i got here today from new york.

to have that life wasted by this savage racist, selfish, narcissistic sociopath, what a waste. and for all of the resume that you stated so eloquently sean you have the situation two other things. one, you talk to the republicans on the other side of the aisle. this was the state senator who reached across and wanted to work together on the two sides, the two political sides, red and blue together. and if you want another measure of the man, who is it that takes time out from their busy lives to run a prayer service, a learning session, a prayer you know where they teach the bible and the message and the meaning. i mean, who does that? who uses their free time so selflessly but the best among us.

that's who died here. that's who was slaughtered here. again, i go back to this racist judas. he was the judas. he sat with them, he looked in their eyes, he pretended to pray with them and to be attentive and following and a faith-based person and instead inside rather than christ, rather than god, rather than goodness, there was this malignant evil knowing the whole time as he counted down 45 minutes, 50 minutes, now i'm taking out the .45 that my dad gave me for my birthday, now i'm shooting and now i'm shooting and now i'm reloading and i'm shooting again and going to the one survivor saying i'm leaving you alive so you can tell them we're killing these black people because they're raping and they want to take control. where does this come from? this is outrageous, this is

savage. you know i believe, sean that the racial divide in this country is our biggest unresolved issue. it's our biggest domestic issue. it's more important than the infrastructure and the climate that's changing and all these other issues that are significant and important, but not as urgent. this is something that all of us taking an example from the people of charleston pan these people. white people black people young people old people coming here to this church, to the mother emanuel ame church coming here to show their solidarity that they stand together. this is the antidote to that hatefulness, sean. >> geraldo i share your passion. you look at this man's background and he's only one of the nine. you think of the two children that will never see their father again and nine families and extended families and a community and an entire city now mourn the loss of these people

for what? and the fact that we had all this evidence beforehand indicating that this guy was a racist bigot plotting and planning and scheming and nobody said anything. they had no indication. yet it was on facebook. yet his roommate knew he planned this. nobody said anything. i don't get it. >> i want you to now tell sean how you feel about what happened here and how you feel about the fact that you're standing shoulder to shoulder with your fellow charlestonians, regardless of race. you first. >> i wanted to pay my respect and stand with people of all races and show we should respect the victims and not the killer. he wanted to create a civil war. and really he just create adwar against himself and brought us together. >> and you, sir. do you feel that there is a war against blacks that there is a racial war?

what is in your heart? is this just one psycho path, a disgusting person who should not be noted? >> to be honest, i mean, i'm not sure at times. sometimes i come and i think, you know we're all together as one. and then other times i think, you know we're not for this act and other acts towards black people. and so to be honest, i don't know. i'm down here just showing my support, showing that, you know, i do care about first off black people because i am black but also white people as well. everybody. but to answer that question, you know, i'm not really sure but i'm down here showing my support. >> and i appreciate your presence and your sincerity. >> and you, ma'am, why you here? >> well we just came down. my husband is the pastor at our church. and we were actually -- where we live is only about ten minutes

from where he was picked up and arrested today. we were actually already planning on coming down to charleston for the weekend and so just to be here at this time and we were just in church ourselves last night. to think that that could have happened anywhere and unfortunately it happened here and with this group of people like you said, it just a senseless travesty of -- you're at a loss for words. i mean you really are, because it's not about blacks, it's not about white. it's about people doing wrong to other people. >> and pastor in god's house. >> it's definitely humbling. it's somewhere we think that we're safe. it's somewhere you feel like you can come and just be yourself. >> i'm glad you're hear. sean back to you. >> geraldo, it is amazing. you're right, if we can't go to our own churches and feel safe, it's scary. you know, in spite of evil and tragedy in this moment, you see a community like that coming

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knew him very, very well. south carolina state senators ronnie groom and larry saab. also joining success kyle green. he said the reverend was a mentor to him. thank you for being with us. senator grooms, let me start with you. i look at the resumé of the pastor and his career as a senator. 13 years old he became a pastor -- i'm sorry, he was preaching at 13, was a pastor at the age of 18, youngest well studied in the doctrine of the church. youngest african american legislator, just 23. state senate not a few years later. tell us about this incredible human being, and this tragedy. he leaves behind a wife and two children. >> he's someone i've come to know and love over the years. we've served in the assembly for 18 years, the last 15 years being together in the south carolina senate. there's been issues that we've disagreed on. i'm a conservative republican, he's a democrat.

but when we disagreed, it was behind closed doors. but publicly when we came together for the good of south carolina, we let everybody know. we've done some remarkable things over these years. he was my colleague, he was my friend, he was my brother in christ. he preached the good news of the gospel of jesus christ. he was faithful to his god, his lord, he was faithful to the people of this state, he was faithful to his wife and family. he's the kind of role model that we need in our nation. >> senator, i look at the church, i know it's an historically black church with an incredible history but yet there were people of all races that went to this church because of the great respect of the pastor, correct? >> i think that's absolutely correct. when you look at senator pinckney and what his life typified it really reminds me of what albert einstein told us years ago when he said "only a life lived for others is a life worth living."

i think because of his attitude and his character was across the racial divide, folks followed him. folks gravitated towards him. that's the kind of intoxicating effect he had on people he came in contact with. >> how refreshing a conservative republican and a pastor and the senator got along so well. kyle, you say he was a mentor to you. how? >> yes. i graduated from jasper county high school and clementa also from jasper county as well. and we attended the same high school. not at the same time because he was a few years older than me. but one day he came back my tenth grade year. and he spoke that it doesn't matter that you're from a small town. what's important is that you can dream a big dream and you can go out into the world and you can do some unbelievable things. when i sat in the student section and i heard this man speak and i was like he's one of us. and it just reminded me that i want to one day go back and i

want to speak the schools and i want to encourage kids to dream big and to understand that their life has a purpose and they're not just here for a reason. he took me under his wing as like an understudy and he would always give me bits of information, things to look forward to, things that i should try. he was always there for me. like he didn't let him being a state representative or senator affect like our relationship. he never thought he was above me. i could text him, send him a message on facebook and he would text right back. and he was just always there for me. and now my kyle speaks company i go all over the state speaking. it was all first out because of me hearing him speak. he planted a seed in me and allowed other people to water it. but it was all because i heard him speak that i wanted to do the same thing that he did. i do exactly what he is. i am a servant for the people. i serve the people like he did,

but i do it in a different way, just like he did. >> this happens in a lot of cases where radical islamic terrorists we find out later they're very active on social media. in this particular case you know you have this facebook photo of this young man displaying a flag of an apartheid era of south africa. you see another flag of white-ruled rhodesia, now zimbabwe. then you have a roommate that says he was a segregationist. he wanted to start a civil war. he said he was going to do something like this and kill himself, and he did it. but we're hearing it after the fact. are we not paying enough attention to these people that are stating clearly and unequivocally what their intentions are before they do it. why do we always find out after they do it that they've been telling people and saying it publicly? >> there are a lot of strange people in this world, you see a lot of strange things. but what we saw today was the face of evil.

>> i agree. >> evil came into our community. evil has taken the life of someone i care about. evil has changed our community. and how we respond to this tragedy will define us -- will define us for years to come. i want us to follow the example of clementa pinckney, preaching the good news of the gospel of jesus christ. talking as if to what does the lord require of thee but to do justly to love mercy and to walk humbly with our god. if we come together as a people and follow the principles of christianity so eloquently laid out by senator pinckney over the years, our community will prosper and we will be strong. >> senator saab, this young man sat there for an hour in a church as people were praying. he knew their good heart, he knew their good intentions. this isn't even a sunday.

it's a bible study on a wednesday night. sat there for an hour knowing what he was going to do. but brack back to the issue. a lot of times when these incidents come up, they have telegraphed what they are going to do. this man telegraphed what he was going to do and we don't pick up on it. do you think we need to fix that senator sabb? >> i do. we have to pay attention to what is being said. not only can we sit silent and allow them to express their views to us, but we've got to take a stand to the extent what they say is wrong. to the extent of what they say is racist the extent of what they say is evil. to be silent is almost endorsing or giving consent. >> i agree. >> there ought to be an outrage when that kind of thing is expressed. let me say one more quick thing on this notion of being in the church. i think when you look historically persons who wanted

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>> it's starting. i think the next few days we need to continue. people need to know we care. and i think this is an opportunity. >> pastor? >> you know sean i agree there is a reality of mental illness for some of the acts of evil but most evil is the result of a willful rebellion against god and his laws which people have to be accountable for. we cannot ignore the spiritual component. this is the war against good and evil. evil seems to have won in charleston it won't win forever. it has been the hope of christians for 2000 years. . >> i remember in the 60s, in 2008, our division started. this should be the first day for

us to get back together, get back on track the way we were in 980s when everyone was together. these race baiters say that. let us heal together. black, white it's one. nine human beings were killed in a house of god. this should be moving forward. let's heal. >> guys unfortunately that is all the time we have left this evening. thoughts and prayers go out to people in charleston and south carolina. thanks for joining us we'll see you back here tomorrow night. you know, in any job any profession image matters. i want some gray...but not too much. only touch of gray uses oxygen

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this is a fox news alert. massacre at a church, nine innocent people praying and studying the bible gunned down inside historic african-american church in south carolina. place say the white gunman joined a white prayer meeting spending an hour sitting next to the pastor before fire on all of them. 6 women and three men all murdered. tracking down dillon roof in north carolina. on the team coverage from south carolina to north carolina, we start with geraldo rivera live in charleston herald? -- geraldo.