justice department. we're told amir raban was charged with possessing a firearm with intent to do a lot of harm. that is now the 11th time in the past month. i think it's safe to say they're here. good night. this is a fox news alert. i'm eric bolling. 21-year-old dylann roof appeared in court for the first time since being apprehended yesterday after the murder of nine people in a charleston church wednesday night. the judge james gosnell announced the charges. >> mr. roof is charged with nine counts of murder. i do not have the authority to set bond on these charges. on the count -- one count of possession of a weapon during commission of the crime, a violent crime, i'm setting your bond young man, at $1 million. >> also appearing in court were the families of those so callously slain by this murderous thug. they chose not to condemn and seek vengeance but to forgive

and offer prayers. they asked god to have mercy on his soul. >> we welcomed you wednesday night in our bible study with open arms. you have killed some of the most [ inaudible ] people that i know. every fiber in my body hurts, and i'll never be the same. tywanza sanders was my son, tywanza was my hero. tywanza was my hero. but as we said in the bible study, we enjoyed you, but may god have mercy on you. >> on behalf of my family i too thank you for not allowing hate to win. for me i'm a work in progress. and i acknowledge that i am very

angry. but one thing depayne has always joined in in our family is that she taught me that we are the family that love built. we have no room for hate. so we have to forgive. i pray god on your soul. >> i will never talk to her ever again. i will never be able to hold her again. but i forgive you. and heaven rest on your soul. you hurt me. you hurt a lot of people. but god forgives you and i forgive you. >> that was heart-wrenching listening to the families of the victims. almost to he one they said i

forgive you. >> what an incredible lesson of love and mercy, their graciousness spirituality devotion to god to try to understand to try to rise above this horrific act of violence. their family members and loved ones taken away from them. like they said they can never talk to them again. but the last thing so many of them said was have mercy on your soul. i think that's the best way to sum it up. >> julie? >> you listen to that and you hope that you have that kind of charity in your heart. if this were me i would hope i would be as forgiving. i frankly don't think i could be. and i think it just says so much about these people in this community, that 24 hours after this happened they were able to come out and do this. it is heart-wrenching. >> i would say i like this way of doing the court hearing where you get to actually hear from the victims' families on the day, rather than waiting six or seven months from now when this crime has been processed in our minds. this is actually very raw.

i think that's one of the reasons it was so compelling and emotional. i admire them obviously for being able to get up and say what they did. and i think that because they are dealing with a hurt that is deeper than anyone else that their mode of forgiveness is the way to healing. and then it is incumbent upon the people of south carolina and us then, to make sure that the justice is carried out. >> greg? >> that might have been the most powerful expression of any human emotion i've ever seen in my life. i'm like -- i will never be that good. and we witnessed unmitigated pure evil. and that to me is like the most -- best example of what is good that i've ever seen in my life. and i am not religious. but i see this and i can't begin to understand like does religion make great people? or do great people go to religion? i don't know.

all i know is what i saw. i can't even understand. i can't even comprehend that. it's so beyond me. and so amazing. i'm gob smacked. >> julie, you pointed out how good are these people to be able to have that emotion at that moment and they're the people the families of the people who were in church on a wednesday night at 9:00 never expecting something like this to happen. >> you know one of the most devastated parts of the story -- there are so many. but one of the most devastating is reports of this killer this alleged killer i should say, said that he almost didn't do this because everybody there was so nice. >> too nice. >> everybody there was so nice. he didn't want to kill them. i mean it is incomprehensible. you see the community they must have come from when you see the families and the way they reacted to this. it's incomprehensible. >> ainsley earhardt is outside the church to offer us information on the victim's families. >> reporter: eric listening to

your conversations it really i think you sum up how the charleston community feels about this. of course it is evil and they are sad. however, they are using this opportunity to share their faith and hoping like you said greg that people do see the good side of religion and do see what forgiveness is all about. these powerful messages are going to change the hearts and lives of other people that are watching. and i think that is their goal in all of this so that their loved ones do not do i in vain. reverend dr. daniel l. simmons sr., a 74-year-old was killed. he worked for the church for 30 years. his granddaughter stood up and she said this "there is proof that they the victims, lived in love because they cared about your soul. she said that to the suspect. and then went on to say hate will not win. myra thompson also was killed 59 years old. her family members said i forgive you and my family forgives you. but we would like to take this opportunity to repent. repent to the one who matters most in life christ she says so he can change your ways no

matter what happened to you and you will be okay. do that and you will be better off than your right now. truly caring about the soul of the man that took their loved ones. it's unbelievable. the theme here is that hate will not win. that the people of charleston and this community will learn to forgive or have forgiven. and that's the theme here. we're not seeing protests. we're not seeing blacks against whites. we're not seeing democrats against republicans. we're seeing unity in this community. my sister lives here. i asked her what was your reaction. she said i am saddened i am sickened. i am shocked by this. but she said i have found hope seeing how my city has come together in unity. there is going to be a unity walk here across the cooper river bridge which connects charleston downtown charleston to mount pleasant. that will happen on sunday where people link arm in arm and they walk across this bridge. it doesn't matter what color, what denomination what your political affiliation is. and i think the overwhelming theme here guys is despite all the evil in this world --

because as we have seen there is evil in this world -- good overcomes evil. and good will always win. back to you guys in the studio. >> ainsley, thank you very much for that report. it was a woman on her way to work at a florist shop 250 miles north of charleston who helped bring the manhunt to an end yesterday. listen to debbie dills' incredible story of how she helped the police nab the racist murderer. >> i'm not a hero and i'm not brave. i got a little nervous. but i just started talking to the lord about it. i wasn't sure it was him. and i didn't want to get anybody else in trouble or be overreacting. so i called my boss. and he said well we need to call somebody. and he got on the phone with the kings mountain police. he stayed on the phone with me. i was able to catch up with him and get right behind him and get his tag number. and the kings mount police and the shelby city police caught him within a matter of minutes.

>> and now that he's been caught and charged let's bring in mike tobin outside the courthouse where today's hearing took place. mike tell us a little bit about that. >> reporter: well the one thing we know about the perp right now he is not going to get out of jail before he goes to trial. the judge, thomas james gosnell said he doesn't even have the authority to issue a bond on the nine murder charges. he did put a bond of $1 million on the weapons charge. but really it's overkill. this kid won't be able to make the bond. and it would still have to happen somehow outside of murder charges. it's not going to happen. he's going to stay in jail until he ultimately answers for those charges. one of the things quite interesting about where he's staying, he's in the same block as officer michael slayinger being sleigher charnl /* /* slager charged in the shooting of michael scott. >> you talk about the weapons charge of the gun.

if the father bought the gun, he's claiming he bought the gun himself. if his father or someone had bought the gun knowing he had a criminal record or he was taking drugs. i would assume he would be arrested. do we know anything about that? . we haven't seen any efforts toward a prosecution in that case. but i'm sure the question has been raised particularly back in the offices of the solicitor or the prosecutor out here. at best that's a very irresponsible thing to do. when we know now that this kid did have some trouble. it was also on taking drugs, we know when he was picked up in february he had some drugs that people take when they're trying to get off opiate. there's a strong indicator he had been doing stronger drugs. we know we've got all this racist language in his background. so allowing this kid to get a gun was sloppy at best. >> dana? >> mike from where we sat when we were his upping to the families who were addressing roof from what i could see it didn't seem like he expressed any sort of emotion.

do you know differently? or have you heard anything differently after he confessed? >> reporter: no. and i think every indication is that he is dry and possibly a sociopath. because you heard him answer a few matter of fact questions there in court. and no indication of emotion or guilt at all. >> julie? >> does he have a lawyer is he using a public defender? i'm curious as to whether you have the celebrity lawyer that is come and try to defend these cases. i'm curious as to who's defending him now, a public defender or whether there's some celebrity lawyer on his way to try to get this guy off. >> reporter: so far it's a public defender who showed up in court. i didn't catch his name because i was listening over a cell connection. >> mike any other information about the family or anyone show up on his be half while he was there in court answer together charges? >> reporter: you know we did see some of the family members show up in court. it was terribly sad. a lot of them were escorted. some were holding the older

women by the arms as they walked in really i think more than what we heard from the family members -- well you can't top what we heard from those family members in court. but watching them coming and going, it really felt like you were looking at people who were emotionally broken. >> mike thank you very much for that report. so what should happen to dylann roof? south carolina governor nikki haley who was quite emotional yesterday said there's only one punishment necessary. >> we absolutely will want him to have the death penalty. this is the worse hate that i've seen and the country has seen in a long time. we will fight this as hard as we can. >> kg seems like an obvious choice. >> well right. but there's still going to have to be a process. aggravation, multiple homicides. he has confessed to it. so it's going to be about the penalty phase. it's obvious he's going to be held accountable for this. the options are life without possibility of parole or death penalty. >> what are mitigating circumstances? what could possibly be mitigating? >> we're going have to see.

a development in his background. somebody that was suffering from some mental disease, illness or defect. was this somebody under the influence of some kind of medication. so they'll perhaps try to do something like that. it's going to be very difficult to prove in fact that he didn't know the nature and quality of the offense that he was committing that he didn't have the intent to kill because there was some planning premeditation. then of course as evidence in the aftermath when he drove -- well first of all drove several hours to get to that specific location going a church a house of worship where you're not going to have weapons. so a lot against him. >> i'm not for the death penalty. i think i've said that before. i don't believe in an eye for an eye. i think the worst punishment you could give anybody is life in prison without the possibility of parole. if that were me i'd rather be killed. i said that before as well. but the worst thing you could do to this person is life in prison without parole and that's what he should get. >> i know kimberly is not here to be interviewed. but can i ask you something about a process like this? if you have a killer who has confessed, can the process of getting to this penalty phase be then sped up and not have to

drag on for two or three years? >> that's a great question. what should happen and needs to happen is a whole hearing to determine whether or not it was a valid confession did they follow all the proper steps. once a lawyer gets involved are going say hey listen i might try and throw out the confession for my client get any kind of evidence statements excluded. then they start to work on some of the other factors. one of other things mitigation would be his youth, his age. but you have to make sure that this is something that with stands legal discernment and review upon appeal. so it's very difficult to just mail it in. unless he wants to plead guilty and they think that he's able to assist in his defense and in that decision. >> final thoughts? >> yeah. just to reiterate how much -- what a terrible person i am compared to those lovely people that we saw. my suggestion is to -- for the rest of his tiny long life he should be strapped to a chair and his eyes should be pulled open "clockwork orange" like and misdeeds should be played over

and over again. and the last feeling in his life has to be excruciatingly painful. then i'll be happy. >> all right. when we come back the blame game continues in the aftermath of the south carolina massacre. meanwhile, the prosecutor vows to bring justice to the community and the victims. >> my mission toys bring justice for this community, and especially for the victims in this case. and we will do it efficiently and effectively. and we'll do it behind the scenes so that we can be successful.

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xfinity is perfect for people who want more entertainment for their money. after such brutal crimes we've left with people asking how come we don't do anything about it? we to do something. we arrest and punish the vermin responsible. then of course we argue about guns. although often it's only the loudest, sometimes british voices we hear. then we return to our neutral corners and wait until the next crime occurs. this shooter, why name him, should be boiled alive. the rest of us though should seek common ground or we'll go around this track forever. number one, obviously when a racist act occurs it's proof racism exists and may never ever go away. a leftover scab from the early days of group living. however, when you use this murderous act to represent a greater whole, as if society

itself pulled this trigger, then you diminish evil. our revulsion to the crime, not the crime itself indicates who we are. when this shooting took place, society didn't rejoice. instead hearing the news was like ingesting ipecac. it made us sick to our stomachs. a racist country doesn't recoil. so this was a racist act but it was also terror. forget mental illness. if this punk is deranged then so is isis. seriously, beheading people on a beach is just as crazy. insanity should be case-by-case not race by race. fact is calling him deranged is a cop out. he planned his cowardice. he almost changed his mind. young men, be they white, black, arab don't need a screw loose to be evil. all they need is infamy a toxic belief and a path. what they don't need from us is an excuse. >> so there's been a lot of blame going around because that's what happens the next day. they blame drugs, kimberly they

blame guns. they blame fox news. i can play that tape later. they blame society. they blame gentrification. i don't even understand half this stuff. this just a natural human need? >> right. because we struggle to try and understand and to make sense of something. because you don't want to actually say pure unadulterated evil like the devil exists on earth but it does. what happened in charleston is evidence proof of that i think, conclusively. so they try and blame guns and do everything. but it's misdirected. it's not really helpful. it's just operating in a state of denial. the guns don't sit there and do things on their own. guns are used to save lives every day as well. and to defend others lawfully and legally in this country. so you shouldn't confuse the two. >> julie, a lot of people they mentioned deranged crazy. but there's millions of people with mental illness who don't shoot black people in churches. >> right. >> and sometimes it just seems that that's another go to spot

for some reason. >> i'm so glad you called this an act of terror. because if this guy were a muslim we'd be calling him a terrorist. this guy is a terrorist. there's no two waits about it. what he did was perpetuate an act of terror against black people. that's what he did. what i get offended by are people saying well you know we have to look at mental illness. yeah there's a whole bunch of different things you want to look at. that's fine. you want to look at gun control look at gun control. look at mental illness look at mental illness you. have to look as this is an act of terror exactly as if somebody from isis came here and shot up a synagogue or shot up times square or anything else. this is somebody trying to perpetuate terror upon an ethnic community. that's something i think is lost in the sauce here when people say he had needs, he was sick, he was deranged. he was a lot of those things. he was a terrorist and that's what he was. i'm glad you called it. >> he had an ideology and he attacked based on it. >> that's terror. but he's also a racist.

he literally said you people are having sex with our wives and taking over our country. listen. if you have a problem with president obama not being able to call a muslim extremist a muslim extremist, for whatever ideological reason he doesn't want to do it you can't sit here and be white and say that guy wasn't a racist. he was. he is. and should be treated that way. it should be a hate crime, terror crime, hate crime. give give it all to him. i would say give him whatever form of capital punishment you can give him in south carolina. interesting, though. the gun debate, i can't believe within hours of this murder -- this terror that president obama brings up the gun debate the first time he hits the camera. listen this is not the time to litigate it. but wow, in my opinion that was too early. >> when was a good time? >> i don't know. maybe after they've they're buried. >> after everybody moves on? that's the problem. everybody will move on and we'll go beyond it. it's going to happen again. >> greg and i will point out

once again it's a place where there are likely not any guns that some crazy madman goes in and shoots the place up. but i just would hope we would have waited a few days for that. >> dana, i want to play this. john stewart did a serious monologue on this. he was very moved. and i want to play a piece and then ask you a question about it. >> okay. >> al qaeda, all those guys isis? they're not [ mute ] compared to the damage that we can apparently do to ourselves on a regular basis. >> the issue i have with this is "we." i'm not sure if i'm misreading this. but the idea that we do to ourselves, the idea of extrapolating a horrific event to society at large. am i misreading this? >> i took it another way. >> okay. >> which was just along the lines that human beings can do to themselves. i don't think that he was -- i would have take it a different way. i do think that on the question whenever people want to have that debate about guns i

actually think because that debate is ongoing and it is not going to be solved quickly, there is a part of this law enforcement issue and intelligence sharing that we know that he was on facebook. we know he was looking at the racist web sites. we know that he was writing these types of things. and are we going to get to a point where we can allow law enforcement to have some sort of deterrent to be able to get in front of these things and check someone out, whatever it might be. those are very tricky fine lines when it comes to our civil liberties as they stand. but there might have been a way on this -- when we're looking at a digital war -- to not lose it either when it comes to isis or even domestic terrorism. >> all right. when we return for the first time since his suspension disgraced anchor brian williams speaks out about his lies. does he deserve a second chance? that's next.

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the brian williams apology tour has officially begun. in his first interview since being suspended in february for lying about being on a helicopter that was brought down by shell fire in iraq williams opens up about his tall tales. the tv anchor did not specifically say he lied but that he told the story correctly for years. well, until he told it incorrectly. brian blames the mess on his ego. >> it had to have been ego that made me think i had to be sharper, funnier, quicker, than anybody else. i told the story correctly for years before i told it incorrectly. i was not trying to mislead people. that to me is a huge difference

here. one is too much. any number north of zero is too many. we can't have it. i can't have it in my life. i can't have it in my work. i can't have it in the company we work for. >> the disgraced journalist was demoted to the breaking news anchor role at msnbc when he returns in august. lester holt meanwhile, will take his place on ""nbc nightly news."" here williams reflects on his suspension. >> it has been torture. looking back it has been absolutely necessary. i have discovered a lot of things. i have been listening to and watching the what amount to the black box recordings from my career. i've gone back through everything. basically 20 years of public utterances. >> quite an extensive process.

so eric are you buying this? was this a good apology? was it nbc that made him go out and do this? >> well i think nbc was smart to push him to go ahead and do it. i think if he wanted to stay on tv it was the only way he was going to stay on tv by doing it. i think as for nbc and brian williams it's as good as it's going to get. so he's going to go back to msnbc now. i believe he was there before he was chose ton go to nbc and then finally getting the big anchor job. but things have changed at msnbc in the last few years. just imagine the toss from al. thank you, reverend al then starts reading his news. or the other toss the other way now over to you melissa harris perry. by the way, beautiful earrings you're wearing right now. okay he will be on tv. he's good on television. people will watch brian williams. but for once now maybe for his opinion instead of his journalism. >> it will be interesting. communication-wise dana, do you think the message was conveyed and this will satiate the

public? >> i think so. i thought he looked humbled. this is one thing i really admire. the humiliation was not stronger than his desire to go back to work. he knows it's a major demotion. he knew he had to do this interview. can you imagine how difficult it was getting up this morning knowing you have to walk in there and in front of all of the people that you used to be -- you were the head of the network and now you're being subjected to an interview by matt lauer? and i thought he sounded very humble. and i think, though the desire to work the understanding that in order to live a meaningful life he needs to have a reason to get up every day, a place to go a goal to meet. and i think that msnbc was probably the open place he was going to be able to go. he had very few allies within nbc. i would imagine that he will actually improve msnbc. >> maybe he wants to keep his contract and his money. and that's a way to do it. >> that's what you do when you take over something, right? >> that's true. >> what i'm saying maybe he wanted to keep his money and his contract too. still in the family. financial aspects probably at

play as well. greg? >> i mean it makes sense. nsnbc is the island of misfit toys. he will fit in there as kind of like the new leader. and people will come and watch and see if he screws up. it really is though the media version of solitary confinement. he's -- it's the second level of punishment that he's going through. but this is a problem i'll never have to worry about because nobody takes me seriously. >> he'll be babe in toyland over there. >> why is he good enough for msnbc but nod good enough for nbc? are they implying msnbc deserves less credibility than mbs? >> msnbc is the frank stallone to nbc sly stallone. >> why do we subject people in

the public eye to self- self--flagellation? i don't like >> it because americans are forgiving. you know if you do this interview, like now he's basically -- what else is there left? >> i guess it's the self-analysis. not so much he apologized. the oh, my god, i messed up. come on. just put out a press release and let's go. >> i would say the reason for msnbc versus another nbc proper nbc the big knock he's the journalist. he's supposed to be factually accurate on everything that comes out of his mouth. clearly we know that's not the same standard nbc has for msnbc. it's highly opinionated. some of the stuff we go oh, really? he's not going to be held to the perfect journalistic standard he would at nbc. >> he said look it wasn't my first choice. i would have loved to have my old job back. but i think he does want to work. hopefully he's going to further define his will golegacy. when it comes to being a

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resume's and you have to figure out a way to basically narrow it down. if someone doesn't have college degree would your instincts be to discard it or keep it in the pile? >> let me clarify. it depends on what type of job. but for example, when i was working with business -- oil trading business. and people come to me all the time. i have this experience that experience. it didn't really matter. some of the best people most successful people in that type of business had no degree. literally i stood next to a guy a cab driver for ten years prior to getting into a trading place and one of the most successful traders on the planet. it was instinct. same thing that makes athletes and military people good as well. unless it's a sort of field you absolutely need a math or science. if someone doesn't have that you want to make sure they're qualified for the job first. >> kimberly there are so many people that will ask us for career advice. could you look at my resume'. hat in a way this is a little bit

dangerous. we do know that over our lifetime if you do have a college degree you are more likely to have more wealth. there are exceptions. do you think it's changing enough that parents can maybe let off the gas a little bit? >> i guess they can. i guess it's all about your own self-determination your focus and your live. there are still people and organizations that care about degrees. i think there is no kind of down side to having one. the rest is what you make with it. if you think you're going to walk down the aisle, have the diploma and greatness is going to pull up like the taco truck in front of your apartment, that's not going to happen. but you can help speed it up along the way, getting the jobs internships, reaching out to people to get help and doing something about it. that's the great idea. and the good news is we can teach you how to make the case. >> the thing that bothered me in this poll greg i understand that computer technology and access to it and being able to understand it which i wish i knew more about it is important. but one of the things i thought is that having good family

connections is important to being -- getting a job rather than going to college. >> sad but true. >> do you think it's true? >> i think maybe, yeah. but i'm more interested in education. because they used to teach you how to think about things. it was about how to think. >> think critically. >> think critically. now we're teaching people how to feet. there's no more thinking it's feeling. students are now enrolling in anger. if you take a gender studies major you're going to teach gender studies. it's not going to help you in any other case. i have no discernible skills. i articulating an opinion will not change a tire or install a toilet. and if there were a mass catastrophe on this planet i would be of no use to anybody except for repopulating. >> you're not creating any jobs. >> repopulating? god help us! >> stay with being annoying okay? >> you have a 2-year-old son. >> i do. >> how much time do you devote thinking about his future college career? >> 24/7. i hate to admit it all the time. i wish i weren't one of those

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as you may know i may not always see eye to eye with president george w. bush on politics. but i think we can all agree he's a pretty amazing dad. in fact president bush was named father of the year in an event sponsored by the national father's day committee in new york city yesterday. while accepting the award from his daughter barbara, 43 opened up about how fatherhood and family changed his life. >> i think the most important priority for a dad is to be a dad. in my case i might have been slightly self-absorbed at times. but when i became a dad, i only had one real job. and that was to provide for

these little girls. was i always successful? i don't know. they can be the witnesses. but i know this it was my priority. as a matter of fact i don't think i would have quit drinking had it not been for being a dad. you see, what happened to me was, alcohol was becoming a love. and it was beginning to crowd out my affections for the most important love if you're dad and that's loving your little girls. and so fatherhood meant sobriety from 1986 on. >> all right, dana. between your book and this i'm actually starting to come around on your old boss. >> mission accomplished. >> but i've got to tell you, you and i were talking about this. i got it. talking about it earlier. that's a pretty amazing story that here's somebody who quit drinking almost immediately because of the girls. >> in his book "decision points" he writes about 14 most important decisions in his life.

the number one decision the one that starts the book is his decision to stop drinking. i really shouldn't be up there but he was like a second father to me. i guess we could say that. i know a friend of mine who was a speech writer for him. on the morning that this guy's daughter was born he had a speech due to the president. he was worried and he thought oh my gosh should i give him the speech? what do i do? his wife's in the hospital room. the phone rings and he says oh, my gosh the oval office. but it was the president not calling to ask about the speech. he said i heard that you are the new father of a daughter. and for men, having daughters makes us want to become better people. so when i heard the father's day remarks today i remembered that. >> that's interesting, eric. you are the only dad here on this panel. hopefully as far as greg knows. >> can i comment on that? he seems like an absolutely amazing father. and i get it. and i agree with you, dana. that when you're a father and you have daughters it makes you want to be a better father makes you stop drinking. if you have a 17-year-old son makes you want to drink a lot

more [ laughter ] >> boy, it's not an easy job. but hats off to george w. bush. congratulations. you earned it. >> yeah. well to me that was a testament to how great drinking is. that the only way you're going to quit drinking is if you saddle yourself with some insane responsibilities. that's why i'm putting it off for awhile. >> i think you should have responsibilities. >> i have kids in the wine cell cellar and they're all pinots. >> kimberly first i want to say happy father's day to everybody. secondly there's a lot of mothers out there who are both mothers and fathers to their kids. and you and i are both single moms. >> exactly. >> but i have to say my hats off to them. obviously happy mother and father's day to you. you're one of them. >> thank you. well yes. well i mean my dad is great and he's alive. but i think the bush family is

wonderful. i really enjoy hearing about them. i'm super delighted that they've served our country so beautifully and in such a fine example of a united family together. wonderful parenting. so a lot to learn. >> how beautiful is barbara bush when she introduced him. >> beautiful girls. >> it's interesting. you watch those girls grow up then you see the women they've become. so congratulations. >> happy father's day everybody. >> to all the awesome dads out there. >> one more thing is up next.

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all right. time for one more thing. i'll kick it off. tomorrow morning a big cashing in. rand paul discusses his brand-new tax plan. two new entrants into the gop race also including jeb bush and this guy. >> i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. i tell you that. >> i think he taps into a vein of distrust of career politicians. >> and that goes on. it's good. 11:30 tomorrow morning. check it out. dana you're up. >> okay. i last night got to have dinner with malala the young woman at 11 years old she started a blog about little girls in pakistan who should be allowed to go to school. she was shot in the face by the taliban.

she survived. she has decided to tell her story. it is an absolutely amazing one. she stopped by "the daly show" last night before we had dinner. >> sometimes people do things that it has been forced upon me or i haven't chosen this life the reality is that i have to live this life. sometimes we wait for others and think that martin luther should raise among us nelson mandela should raise among us and speak for us. we never realize that they are normal humans like us. if we step forward we can also bring change just like them. >> she's absolutely amazing. this october there is a documentary that is being released it's called "he named me malala" her story about her family and what she's trying to do through the malala fund to bring educational opportunities to girls everywhere. i didn't have a personal dipper with her but a group dinner and she really touched my heart. >> one person can change the world and make a difference. >> julie? >> recently visitors in los angeles took the opportunity to pose with arnold

schwarzenegger's wax figure. look what happened. >> because i am. cane help you? >> no touching. >> do you want to come into the shot? [ screaming ] >> thank you. >> you scared us! >> oh, my god. i think it's amazing. he was doing it as an opportunity to promote his charity "after school all stars." good job, governor. great job. >> very good. greg you're up. >> all right. time for greg's eternal questions about life! >> wow. >> yes. the question for the panel. at what number of pages of a document do you decide not to use a stapler but a paper clip to hold them together? >> 20. >> 20? interesting. >> depends on how long the staple is. >> that's not an answer. >> are you talking about the big fat paper clips?

>> i don't care. >> are you joking about binder clips? >> she's saying binder clips. >> no. the ideal number is 14. >> i don't use paper clips. >> of course you don't. >> i think it depends on what you have free. >> the staples are different lengths. >> enough with your questions. i only asked the question. >> it didn't take off. >> no one knows. wrong. it's 37. >> i'm a midget mclaughlin. >> all right. yes, enough of that. bad visual. and visual of a few good men. because the u.s. marines are resurrecting a historic name. so the army has the green berets. the navy has the s.e.a.l.s. u.s. marine corps bringing back their old moniker of the raiders, marine raiders for the special operations forces otherwise known as marsofs. >> i'm offended by that. >> yes, you would never qualify. >> but on a positive note we're

happy for the marine corps god bless them and their service. >> thank you for your service. anyway that's for us. happy father's day. we'll see you back here monday i'll be back tuesday. special report on next. relatives of those shot down in the south carolina church massacre speak directly and emotionally to the accused killer. this is "special report." good evening i'm chris wallace in for bret baier. we're learning more tonight about the young man who has reportedly confessed to murdering nine people in a south carolina church wednesday night. dylann roof appeared in court today for an extraordinary session in which relatives of the victims directly confronted him, and some forgave him. a vigil is about to begin to mourn the dead. we are also getting first person accounts of the grief and despair he