be a sure deal. i believe she was a plan b. >> police need your help if you have any signs of the fugitive. call the new york state police hot line at @greta and hu#greta tonight. breaking news tonight. police investigate a new lead in the manhunt for the two convicted murderers who escaped from a maximum security prison in upstate new york over two weeks ago. there has been a credible sighting near the new york/pennsylvania border. new york state police releasing a statement saying, in part, on the afternoon of june 20th, a witness spotted two men along a railroad line that runs along route 20 in the town of friendship, new york. while this is an unconfirmed sighting, the state police is asking residents who live in this area to be on alert. hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us.

we'll go to fox news correspondent rick leaventhal for the latest on the search for the prisoners. >> this is an unconfirmed sighting, sparking a swarm of activity, 350 miles from the prison where richard matt and david sweat escaped two weeks ago. they have a possible sighting in the town of friendship, in allegheny county. police say a witness spotted the men along a railroad line that runs along route 20 near highway i-86. now, a local newspaper is reporting that the witness saw the men crawl into a pipe, going turned highway. atvs, helicopters, k-9 teams, and officers from numerous local counties, state, and federal agencies rushed to the area. as you can imagine, traffic backed up in both directions along i-86, which is a busy corridor there. and while this remains an unconfirmed sighting, it may

have been given more weight, because it's 60 miles from two other reported sightings one week ago. a man described reporting seeing two men matching the description of matt and sweat roughly 300 miles south and a bit west of here and the next day, another witness reported seeing two men with the same description, walking along a road in the nearby town of linley. the men could have covered 300 miles in a week, if they'd walked for about 15 hours a day. they also could have hopped on a freight train to make better time. now, police have talked to witnesses. they have examined surveillance footage. so far, they tell us, it is inconclusive, but these men remain at large. of course, justice, and are considered very dangerous. that's why the u.s. marshal's service put them on the 15 most wanted list, reserved for the worst of the worst. they are career violent criminals and the public is being urged to call 911 if they spot anything suspicious. judge? >> all right, rick, thanks.

and joining me now on the phone is the friendship, new york, town supervisor, bin laden bluthen. are you there? >> i am. >> thanks for being with us, supervisor. where are you now and what is going on there? >> i'm right here in front of town hall at the moment. there's a flurry of police activity, cars coming and going. they've shut off a command center here, at the fire hall, and just been pretty chaotic, actually. >> all right. and it is not -- is it still light there, where you are? >> it is just now getting dark. >> all right. and, what is happening in the area. our rick leventhal was talking about these guys being sighted under a bridge? >> that's what i was told. they've concentrated their search just east of here and the

helicopters have been flying overhead constantly. >> describe what kind of area it is. it's a rural area, i believe? >> a heavily wooded area where they've been located -- or spotted. >> and in that area, is it a big residential area or are there more farms, hunting cabins, what's up there? >> it's a few residents down there. not that many. just a big farming community down in this area, so there are kind of fields down in this area. >> so a lot of fields, a lot of foliage, big acreage, i imagine there? >> yes, yes there is. >> all right. and what are you hearing from the state police or any of the police there. what are they telling you? >> they have not released much of anything. just what we've been hearing, what we've been told. >> all right. and how -- you are, the first sighting that we heard about was a week ago in errland and linley. is there a railroad track that goes frommerland and linley towards friendship? >> yes, there is.

yes, there is. >> so in that sighting from a week ago, we're told that it was near a railroad track, and now we've heard about local train tracks along router 20. is that where you are in friendship? there's a route 20? >> yes. >> so then it's possible that they actually were on the tracks from the first sighting from last week to today. >> definitely could be, yes. >> all right. and are the police, i'm sure there's a lockdown there, but are they telling people not only to stay in their homes, but are they asking people to evacuate? >> i haven't heard any evacuations yet. i know they are searching homes here one by one and going through every one of them. >> so they're going through the homes and also checking the cars. >> absolutely. if you don't have a license in the state and you're not a resident of friendship, they're turning you away. >> anything else you can tell us, supervisor? >> i heard a little while ago, they were down at the dairy searching all the empty trailers

they load out with the cheese, they were searching them about an hour ago. i do know that. >> so there are places, a lot of empty searches where they can search. today is saturday. a lot of businesses closed now? >> they've pretty much closed all the businesses here in town. i'm not sure if they've posted them, but that's where they're concentrating their search. >> all right, supervisor brad blo blo blouvet, thank you so much. and with me right now, lenny depaul. what do you think of what he just said? >> there's certainly an intense manhu manhunt. it's an unconfirmed sighting, which makes me scratch my head a little bit. these two guys, if they're walking down main street, everybody's looking for these guys. their faces are plastered all over the place. >> but i'm from upstate new york. both of these inmates are from

upstate new york. o they know this area. they know that there are train tracks in that area. they know that it's pretty vacant, a lot of vacant fields. it's making sense to me. and then when you go back and you remember what joyce mitchell said, that they wanted here to drive for seven hours, 350 miles, seven hours, right? because they're not going to speed. >> it somewhat adds up, but you still can't, as a fugitive, you can't rule anything else out. even though all these sightings and tips are coming in, you saw how fast the u.s. marshals and the new york state troopers responded and have saturated this area in friendship, new york. which is a home run. these guys are responding and will continue to do that until all tips, all leads have been exhausted. however, these guys can be everywhere. i think joyce mitchell was plan "b." i think she's the red herring. i think someone else picked them up and she was long gone.

with joyce mitchell in the mix, law enforcement kind of zigged when they should have zagged, possibly, and put two days of effort into her statement. >> but, let me -- >> and rightfully so. >> do you think they're still together? >> you know what, it's possible. they fed often each other. i would be concerned if i was david sweat. you know, matt's a psychopath. you know, god knows what will happen to him if he needs to eliminate him. you know, he doesn't want anybody talking at this point. if i'm david sweat, i'm sweating a little bit. >> well, yeah, but you see, matt doesn't really have to worry about david sweat, because he's in for life without parole, so what else are they going to do? they can't give sweat any benefit to squeeze him to turn in matt. >> if they are separate and sweat does get arrested prior to and does give up whatever, i don't know if matt wants to take that. he did that before he escaped, before the underlying charge, the murder. i think he had threatened his co-conspirators that he would kill him. if he said anything, which he did take the stand and he said a

lot. so maybe matt learned, if these guys are together, again, it's a psychopath. you know, both of them. >> well, clearly, clearly. but joining us now by phone is john anderson, who is a reporter at the "wellsville daily" in upstate new york, which i believe is right outside of friendship. are you there? >> yes, i am. >> all right. john, thanks so much for being with us. what can you tell us? >> well, it appears that the troopers were kind of backing off a little bit, but i think there was just a shift change, and a lot of the top investigators did go back to the theme. i talked to a couple of the investigators that they were leaving, and they say the reason is, the 1:30 p.m. sighting was so strong, the description that was given by the citizens, they just don't want to give up on this lead. and they don't want to leave the area totally and have these guys hiding somewhere. there's a lot of places to hide.

this is a very rural area. allegheny county is 90 miles south of buffalo, but right on the pennsylvania border, and it's a county of 29 towns and villages, no cities. very rural. deer hunting, fishing. that's outdoor recreation, that's what this area is known for. and it is a very easy place to, you know, walk and get into hunting camps that are only used seasonal or to hide in culverts, ditches, tunnels, going down the ready, there's a lot of areas to get away in this area. >> all right. john anderson, thanks so much for being with us. and if anything happens in the next hour, we'll be back to you. but now i'm going to go back to lenny depaul. all right, lenny, these guys, i mean, on the one hand, they're saying that, you know, there was a clear sighting, but it's unconfirmed. i don't know what that means, myself. >> apparently, they must have

spoke to the person that either phoned in or sent the tip into law enforcement. and probably after that conversation, maybe they either had a second thought, they certainly feed to satisfy this lead, and they'll exhaust and they'll respond with all the assets needed in the area. so, you know, you have to -- but, again win keep saying, the public needs to stay vigilant. they have to, you know, keep these tips coming in. these guys could be anywheres. >> but, you know, i say to myself, lenny, how did they get from the canadian border to the border of pennsylvania and new york, if, indeed, these sightings are credible sightings, which they say they are. who's feeding them? there haven't been any shootings, robberies, carjackings, burglaries, all of the things you would expect from guys -- because you don't come out of prison with a backpack and some food. >> right. too quiet out there. no carjackings, no kidnappings, in reports of any robberies. they've got to eat. i would probably break into a store in the middle of the night and get some food. if it is them.

of course, there are a lot of what-ifs that continue within this investigation. these guys, who knows where they are? >> are they that capable of -- >> i don't want to give them a lot of credit, but i know they've cast a wide net, there are notices to interpol, so we're not stopping. we're interviewing and surveilling and doing what needs to be done. >> aisle go now to sheriff david clark. are you there? hello, sheriff. what do you think of this, the latest news that there was a sighting and they literally moved all the press away to a staging area about an hour away, and they ended up bringing in like o, i don't know, hundreds and hundreds of law enforcement to this area. they would not do that unless they believed there was a good cause. >> they don't have much else at this point. the trail has gone cold and that benefits, obviously, the

escapees. when the escapees came out, they wanted to create time and distance between them and law enforcement. they got the jump on it. they had a plan. when the authorities finally figured it out, it took them a while to marshal their resources, so they were losing time and distance. this is the first at least credible, or at least any kind of lead that has come in they have to follow. they've got to go through the night. the dogs, k-9s are a valuable tool in a search like this. i'd bring in air support with infraredd cameras, night vision goggles. i would about give up because dark falls. do anything you can to put this lead to rest. if it turns out to be nothing, so you can move on. because if this isn't it, it creates more time and distance between where those guys are and where law enforcement is right now. >> well, they clear have the k-9s, the air support, the thermal images. you know, we talk about fact that it's summer, so it's certainly easier than maybe in the winter. but at the same time, in the summer, the foliage is very, very big, very great, and you don't see as well as you might

see in the winter. how do you think these guys are getting along, sheriff? where are they getting the food? i mean, i assume these killers have a gun or something. >> well, that's my biggest concern with the type of sentence that they were in for, life without parole or whatever. they might not want to be taken alive. so i'm concerned about law enforcement in these types of situations in an ambush. i think they have help. i don't think -- my guess, i don't know, my guess is they're not together. that benefits them if they split up, because now there's two trails that have to be followed. >> but if these sightings are credible, then they are together. all right, sheriff clark. stay with us. i'll go back to lenny depaul. lenny, would escaped prisoners like whitey bolger and eric rudolph, those guys were living on the lam for months or even years. these guys could possibly never be found. >> it's possible. eric rudolph -- he certainly had

some help in the woods. he was out there for five years. whitey bolger, even more. no, absolutely, it's a possibility. but i don't -- you know, we are running down every lead, again, we're in other states looking at a variety of people, with the sbrenl intelligence that's been gathered in law enforcement. so i hope they're not out there that long, let's put it that way. >> and what about -- how do you think lenny -- i mean, tommy lee jones and "the fugitive," how did they know, did they have blueprints of the prison? how did they know where they had to cut to get out, to make that precision cut. how do they know this? >> that's the $1 million question. how do they know that? they're sitting in a tube. how do they make such a precision cut on that tube. i mean, that was -- was it somebody on the outside? is there others involved? others are being questioned, from what i understand, in the prison. i hope not, but i still say that there's a -- they certainly had some other help and it was plan

"a." >> we'll go to the d.a., andrew riley, later in the show, to talk about what's going on with some other corrections officers in the investigation, and we'll come right back to that. but coming up, could a new law inspired by me prevent civilians from helping inmates in the future? plus, new information from the man at the center of this case, district attorney andrew

breaking news. the manhunt continues tonight for these two vicious killers. david sweat and richard matt, still on the lam, more than two weeks after their escape. last week, i was on the "today" show about this case, take a listen. the sad part of all of this is that the laws in new york, as they exist, in terms of aiding and abetting an escape, promoting prison contraband, most of them are "d" felonies. the most you could face, assuming there is evidence to support it, is seven years. the problem right the now is that you've got these two guys, who one has life without parole. i don't understand why they don't have some kind of gps or a chip implanted in them. and earlier, i spoke with new york state senator, kathy m marchon. take a look. >> senator marchon, thank you so

much for being with us. you know, in the aftermath of the dannemora prison break, and those two inmates on the lam, you've proposed legislation in the new york legislature, that would increase the penalties for those who assist in promoting prison contraband for inmates. tell us a little about that and why did you propose the legislation. >> well, first of all, let me thank you. because i proposed the legislation after hearing you on the "today" show, talking about how it was only a "d" felony to help someone get out and escape from jail. and i went back, we checked the information, and you were absolutely right. and a "d" felony could be probation up to seven years. that certainly doesn't fit the crime of letting murderers out of jail and helping them skate. >> and also, the "d" felony as you propose it is 8 to 20 years, maximum, so it certainly is more consistent with the underlying crime and the intent.

but that is something that is kind of reactive. and it is necessary, i think it is absolutely appropriate. but looking forward, what can we do to remedy this kind of thing? sure, increased penalties are a deterrent, but what else can we do, senator? >> well, i think one of the other things we should be looking at is gps for some type of a chip, in the worst of the worst criminals. these guys are monsters. if they're in jail for raping or pedophiles or murders, we need to be able to track them, so we can keep people safe. and i think that we should be looking at that. you know, for years, we've been using ankle bracelets to monitor people who were not the worst of the worst. so using a gps or some type of a monitoring device, i think, is something that we should be looking at. >> well, clearly, when you are dealing with pedophiles who are likely to repeat their offenses, a gps tracking system has been

appropriate. but especially for someone like sweat, who was in there, life without the possibility of parole, and i would hope that the supreme court would look at that at one of those things that is essential in weighing the balance to the protection of the public, but let me go a little bit farther on this issue. there is talk now that there may be some hearings in the new york state legislature, that may be budget cuts by the governor, as seems to be reported, maybe part of the problem at dannemora. what's going to happen? >> well, there already have been cuts. we had many of our prisons close last year. i had one in my own district close. i think those all add to the concerns that we have here. i think there's a lack of personnel, and you know, our corrections officers do a tremendous job. they have a very difficult job. they do a wonderful job. i'm not second-guessing them at all. but you need to have the right tools in order to do the job directly. >> and you know, senator, when

you think about it, these guys were last seen at 10:30, and the next check was 5:30 in the morning, when they realized they were missing, you know, they had these dummies in the bed and their own hair clippings. but you would think in a maximum security prison, with the worst of the worst, that there would be some kind of a cell check, you know, between 10:30 p.m. and 5:30 a.m. i mean, that's pretty basic stuff, isn't it? >> yeah, i think it would be, as well, yet i don't want to second-guess, because i haven't been part of the investigation to know what really happened. so for me, i need to wait and see. but i do think we ought to have some hearings. we ought to have some hearings on whether a gps tracking system is constitutional, whether you can do something like that monetarily. you know, whether, you know, listening to docs tell us about their procedures and why they have those type of procedures. they must have reasons and i would like to know what they are. >> yeah, docs, of course, being the department of corrections that's been charged with the

prison system in new york. senator, thank you so much. we're going to follow this closely and hopefully these inmates will be captured and returned to exactly where they belong, prison. thank you, senator. >> we sure hope so. thank you. and with me now, andrew wiley, the clinton county district attorney at the center of this cay. d.a. wiley, thanks so much for being us. last night a corrections officer was put on mradministrative lea. what can you tell us about this? >> right now we have been interviewing this corrections officer throughout the day. his lawyer contacted me. we set up an interview that was conducted by investigators, fbi members. so this corrections member has been interviewed all day, cooperating with the authorities in providing information to us relative to his involvement with

sweat and matt. >> so you didn't answer my question. do you -- is -- >> i've gotten pretty good at that. >> all right. so i assume you're not going to answer the question as to whether or not he'll be charged with a crime. >> right. we're continuing the investigation and based on everything that we have, it is possible that this corrections officer will be arrested. >> all right. let's talk about the fact that state police are now in possession of two paintings, that the inmate, matt, had made for joyce mitchell, of her family. i don't know who the other one was. and now we hear that he was continuously, regularly, making paintings and getting them out of the prison, giving them away, both to former employees of the prison, as well as other corrections officers. now, why did the state police take this into evidence? >> well, it's evidence of the

case. it's evidence that supports the testimony or the statements previously given to us by joyce mitchell. it also supports additional crimes or charges that may be filed against correction officers or civilian employees that work in the facility, so we have to have the evidence to have probable cause for the arrest, and then, obviously, sufficient legal evidence to go to grand jury and potentially a conviction. >> andrew, andrew, we're not looking to the -- law enforcement isn't looking to beef up her credibility by saying, yes, she's right, he did make paintings. were there messages in those paintings? >> not at all. there were no messages whatsoever in those paintings, in any way to assist in the escape or for any other person of a painting of her animals. >> what about the paintings that were sent to other people. are you looking to seize those

as well? >> yes, we are. obviously, it's contraband. we want to take as many of those as we can locate, have them in custody, the people that are involved, and as a result of our interviews with the corrections officer today, we've executed some search warrants and we're looking for additional paintings. >> can you tell us where that corrections officer was assigned, would be on the honor block with these individuals? >>, he had access throughout the prison, so he had contact with the two inmates throughout the prison. >> all right. and what can you tell us about the search right now, d.a.? >> right now, we have a number of leads that have been developing today. one in particular, obviously, that has been talked about is the lead out in allegheny county, in the town of friendship. it's been reported, a resident

there observed while out in the barn area, her dog was barking, and she observed two individuals, very suspicious. she called the police and law enforcement right away, and as a result of that lead, law enforcement had directed a very strong perimeter in that area, trying to locate these two individuals. whether they are matt and sweat or not, we obviously do not know that for sure. but it's a positive lead in this case. >> all right, andrew wiley, d.a., clinton county, thanks so much. >> thank you, judge. and coming up, more breaking news on a possible sighting of the escaped new york prisoners. stay with us. ce with judge jean"

we're continuing our breaking news coverage tonight on the possible sighting of the escaped new york prisoners. joining me by phone, retired superintendent, james conway, a 38-year veteran of the attica

correctional facility in new york. are you there? >> i am. >> all right. thanks so much for being with us. this prison break, had you had prison breaks at attica, anything like this? >> we had one prison break in 84 years. april of -- april 18th of 1971. joseph "mad dog" sullivan. >> did you catch mad dog and bring him back? >> yes, we did. and he was caught by a task force in new york city, but he was out probably nine months, so. >> okay. >> so. >> what do you think -- let me ask you this. i know you're the former superintendent, but how do you think these guys were able to get the tools, aside from the fact that they have this joyce mitchell on the inside, but how do they -- do they have blueprints of the prison? how would they know where to cut? how would they know where the outside was? how would they get a ladder to reach the top of the manhole

cover? >> well, judge, this was a perfect storm, as far as prison escapes go. see, they have tools, left in inappropriate spots, that were able to fall into the wrong hands. you had staff complacency. you had inappropriate relationship with staff. and i'm sure, the plan was so elaborate, their exit strategy was as elaborate. i'm not sure that her panic attack, when she allegedly got cold feet was factual. i think the panic attack may have been when she got to the manhole, they weren't there. and they focused the search on the prison area and they were long gone. >> they used her kind of as a patsy. >> i think so. >> but let's talk about -- i want you to listen to what a former prison guard at that facility in dannemora had to say about the prison. take a listen. >> i heard they had a riot and they used gas in the yard. they usually locked the jail

down the following day, and all cells are searched. >> they would have discovered a hole. >> i believe, if the jail would have been locked down like it should have been, they would have found holes in the wall, they would have found everything. >> all right. superintendent, so here you've got a guy who apparently said just two weeks before this prison break, there was a riot, they used gas in the yard, and that normally what happens is, then, every cell is searched. but that wasn't done, according to people, because of budget cuts and overtime concerns. >> i think that would be that would be a position the officer's union would probably take. there are a lot of incidents that happen in prison involving large groups of inmates. they don't lock it down every time it happens. if it's a major incident including shots fired, shots are fired into the area, they may decide to close it down, but very likely, they felt they had the perpetrators, they didn't

feel it was necessary to close the place down. that's a very costly endeavor. programs are closed. you have a lot of, you know, ceos that are involved in the prison. >> all right. >> so the teachers aren't teaching, the counselors aren't -- >> right, right. >> the call doesn't happen. so it's a major operation to close a place down. >> had they done so, if, indeed, there was a riot. and we reached out to the new york state department of corrections, and they would neither confirm nor deny there had been a riot, but if they had done a cell search, they certainly would have found the hole in the cell, in the a block where these two prisoners were. i want to thank you very much former superintendent james conway of the attica correctional facility. >> can i add one more thing? >> sure, quickly. if the officers had been doing what they were supposed to do, and that is checks and regular at the close, they would have found that hole. >> yes, absolutely. >> just doing their regular job.

>> absolutely. thank you. joining me now by phone is peter dumas. he's the attorney for lyle mitchell, the husband of joyce mitchell, charged with aiding in the escape. peter, thank you so much for being with us. very quickly, did your client, the husband of joyce mitchell, know about any of this? >> no, he didn't, your honor. >> how could he not know? didn't he work in the prison, too. >> he did. he was a floater in the prison. he was in a number of different areas. >> did he know that his wife was being investigated, peter, for inappropriate sexual activity, i believe it was, sweat, or matt, who knows. she admitted to both, apparently. but did he know his own wife wassing wiwas being investigated? >> there was an investigation a year and a half, two years ago, into an inappropriate relationship. it wasn't a sexual relationship, it was just, they thought they were too close at that point in

time. and he was aware of that one. >> okay. and let me ask you this. the question everybody has, i mean, is he standing by his wife? >> he's not, in a manner of speaking. he's still very emotional about it. this was the love of his life. he was, you know, really blindsided by it. he's kind of questioning his -- the last 21 years. >> peter, that's so sad. you know, i get the sense that your client is, with, you know, kind of a straightforward guy, you know, just, you could -- you know, what you see is what you get? >> he is, very much so. and -- >> is there any -- go ahead. >> i'm sorry? i'm not saying it in a bad way, but he's a very simple man. he has very few needs. he lives where he grew up and doesn't really go anywhere.

>> what was his reaction, peter dumas, attorney for lyle mitchell, when he heard about the possible plot on his life? >> i think he was in shock. i don't -- we talked about it briefly, lyle and i. but, it almost doesn't register on his face, because he can't really believe it, you know? >> so sad. so sad. all right, peter dumas, i suspect there's no possibility that he's going to be charged with anything? >> i'm certainly hoping not. from what i've talked to him about, and from what i've talked to the investigators about, i don't really think there's anything he could be charged with yet, but i've been defending people for 15 years, you know, there's always something that could be -- >> you never know what these prosecutors are going to come up with. peter dumas, attorney for lyle mitchell, thanks so much. >> thanks, judge. coming up, the latest on the search for these two escaped new york prisoners. they are dangerous.

welcome back to our continuing coverage of the manhunt intensifies near the new york/pennsylvania border for the two escaped murderers. with me now, fox news military analyst, colonel david hunt, along with retired u.s. marshal service commander, lenny depaul, who i called tommy lee jones in "the fugitive." >> do i get a nickname? >> i don't know you. >> i just want to know -- >> what do you think, you have been a colonel for many, many years. you've searched for people in the woods, in the jungle, and they've searched for you. what do you do to hide? >> the biggest thing is preparation. what plan to have. you've got to give them credit. as much as you don't want to, this is an elaborate plan, took

a long time, a lot of help, both inside with people who want to talk about not just one woman, both inside and out. so it's a plan and how quickly they can react to changes as they're being chased. the second piece i learned is, you've got to have one person in charge, one group. the army had a problem with this for a couple of years with bergdahl and we didn't find him. i think in this case, the federal government like the marshals, not the states are being charged -- >> stop right there, stop right there. lenny, you and i have been in law enforcement a long time. the biggest secret in law enforcement is force. who's in charge? >> jeanine, when you're down range, it's a chaotic scene. >> who's in charge? >> in this particular case? >> new york state police? >> absolutely. >> now, he's saying they shouldn't be. >> no, they're not. >> you only say, we're assisting them, but you run the stuff. >> we're pretty good. we're the premiere agency in the

government for -- >> that's all i wanted. back to you, hunt. >> by the way, i've worked with the state police -- >> oh, they're all great. >> day don't have the assets, day don't have the reach. >> they don't have the experience. >> the u.s. marshals are unarguably one of the finest special operations group in the government. straight up, have been for 50 years. >> let's talk about it. people have searched for you in the jungle. what do you to stay hidden? >> only work at night. stay in very, very crowded areas, no communications, period. i mean -- >> what about a scent, what about a dog catching your scent? >> in my case, we had prepared by eating the enemy's food for like a month and a half. >> what does that do? >> the sweat you give off is -- will smell vietnamese, in this case, instead of like -- we also

had the ability not to use the bathroom. >> what does that mean. >> you don't go to the bathroom. >> how do you stop yourself from going to the bathroom. didn't elvis presley die from that? >> the issue is not to go to the bathroom, the pill afterwards. but dogs can scent anything and everything. you asked me what we did. they knew all this, their prep is pretty phenomenal, considering what they did and six or seven hours. and this is a pr problem. they've got, besides conflict >> what do you say to them? >> i agree with the colonel. how are you going to get them. i hope they're contained in that perimeter. they have to look at that right now in upstate new york, but i think there was a plan "a." i think they had other people helping them. and to get back to the new york state troopers, they are a bunch of great people. i do have them on my task force and they're pretty good at what

they do, also. >> but you guys are going to be in charge. >> here's the thing. >> here's the the more people in law enforcement we can get to look for these guys, the better off we are. i'm concerned when they were there last week, they waited a week to tell us. the state police waited a week to tell us. i'm from upstate new york. you have family in new york, they're entitled to know if there was a sighting. shame on them. thanks so much for being with us. coming up, new information on the man hunt for the escaped killers. ancestry has come out with a new version. now they have lifestory. it literally lays out somebody's life, from birth to death. when i was using lifestory, i discovered my great grandmother. she went through a lot. two sons go to fight in world war ii. she lived through the depression. and she made it through all of that. here i am. just because she survived, and she kept going.

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the massive man hunt continues for two convicted murders in upstate new york. we'll check in with rick for the latest in the search. is there any update? >> reporter: well, no capture of these suspects yet. we're told by the state police this was a potentially significant sighting today in alleghany county. there's been 1500 tips and leads that state police have pursued and that possible sighting in irwin last saturday wasn't reported to police until tuesday.

they had to send investigators down there to interview the witnesses, look for surveillance footage. it was released on friday. >> they got it on tuesday but they made a decision to release it on friday. why? if you say there's 1500, why aren't they talking about the 1500? if you have family living in upstate new york you should know tuesday or wednesday. that's just me. >> reporter: they have to investigate every tip. >> of course. >> reporter: they send their team down there. >> why did they release it? >> reporter: i think because you had two sightings in close proximity to each other. >> along the railroad tracks both sightings were along the railroad tracks. by the way, these guys are familiar with the terrain. they are from upstate new york. let me ask you a question. i hear you're the fugitive.

>> reporter: i was. >> what did you do? >> reporter: it was bit of a stretch. i played a reporter in the film. >> that's pretty great. you were a reporter. will you do it again? >> reporter: if the boss will let me, i'll do it. >> the boss is great. of course, he'll let you. you're great reporter. >> reporter: thanks. >> all right. that's it for us tonight. i want to wish all the wonderful dads out there a very happy father's day. to my own dad, dad i wish you were here but i know you're in a better place. i miss you.

>> we start with a fox news alert and a possible siting for two convicted murderer ares considered armed and very dangerous. i am heather childers and this is the fox report. david sweat and richard matt may have been spotted nor the pennsylvania border 350 miles from the maximum security prison where they escaped. multiple agencies are searching the hot spot nor the house of friendship. and this is possible sitings by lindley and erwin. they are allowing