go to itunes. don't forget. donald trump on greta talk. good night from washington. see you on facebook and gretawire and twitter. 6789s tonight on red wry, i sit down with an exclusive interview with the paper bag if question. joyce mitchell accused of sleeping with one of the escaped murderers 100 times in a prison closet. but was it 700 minutes of heaven or hell? what luxury car company designed a working hover board? my money is on delorean.

prison guard gene palmer now sits in jail awaiting a second hearing later today. he was arraigned last night on several felonies accusing him of assisting in the matt and sweat. they say he delivered frozen meat to the inmates. he is the second employee tied to the plot. matt and sweat have been on the run since june 6th. items belonging to the fugitives were found in a hunting cabin. >> regarding shotguns there are reports a shotgun is missing. i do not have evidence that a particular shotgun is missing. i would point out those not familiar with the area just about every cabin or out building in the north country has one or more shotguns or weapons. >> federal defenders have been appointed to represent dylann roof. he's the man accused of gunning down nine people in charleston

last week. federal charges are likely. last night 150 people packed in to the basement of the historic church for bible study. the first there since the shootings. if you are planning to be away at all for the 4th of july weekend with you are not alone. americans are expected to travel in big numbers this independence day thanks to a stronger economy, rising consumer confidence and cheap gas. aaa estimates 42 million people will wander 50 miles or more from home. the most since 2007 right before the recession. red eye starts right now. for all of the headlines, log on to fox news.com.

welcome to red eye. let's check in with andy at the red eye news deck. what are you doing there? working on something. >> a couple of theories i have. >> nothing you want to share? >> not at this time. >> wednesday andy our third show is hump day. isn't it? >> that's what the kids say. >> when i was a kid every day was hump day. >> i don't want to know what that means. >> i had to ride in the middle seat. >> i said i didn't want to know. >> a great show tonight. >> bring it on. >> our normal mott crew and rob foreign yea. >> how did you get him? >> i dug up dirt on him. >> excellent. >> see you soon. let's welcome our guests. he's lighthearted because his bleeding heart lost too much blood. editor in chief john devour.

she's taken more pictures than thomas crown. he already regrets coming here. enough about them. let's get to the news shall we? donald trump is beating almost every candidate in new hampshire. success there would boost his fragile ego. a new poll jeb bush led the jam-packed gop field with 14% of the vote followed closely by trump. he said i'm not thrilled. how could bush be in first place? this guy can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. >> pollsters warn any surveys this early tend to be 100% accurate in predicting the election winner. this is amazing stuff. welcome, ron. >> thank you for having me.

you should have a lot to say about trump. actually you did. i was reading the journal today. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> i read it every day. >> appreciate it. >> does trump have a shot or does that matter? is he acting as a spoiler or what? what's his role. >> he is a spoiler. i'd like to think he's upset he is second to jeb bush. anyone behind him has to be suicidal. anytime he gets a speech three things happen i wince and then on second reaction is to mock and throw up a little bit in any mouth. then i stop to think this guy really does matter. this is why. he is a reflection of the anger in this country right now. there's a majority of americans that don't like the republican party, democratic party, think the country is on the wrong track, think the american dream is dead think politicians are more worried about their political careers than the country. they are looking for something different. i don't think they want donald trump but when he says things

that washington is run by losers. we can't win anything. he is channelling that pro-tst angry, mad as hell not going to take it anymore. >> i get the quote. i took it out of the national journal. put it on the screen. the political establishment can mock trump, the person but shouldn't under estimate what his candidate means. it is assault on the central and cynical two parties. the best way to pin win is the least awful alternative to a dwindling pool of voters. >> if i were a republican instead of a liberal heart throb, i would be deporting donald trump right now because these authentic. he's off the cuff. talking off the top of his head. it's crazy what he is saying but these authentic. other candidates are scripted. what we are seeing is crazy

winning over dishonest. he's not -- he's talking from his weird heart. >> haven't his positions changed? i remember ten years ago, didn't he say he was going to run and he was a gun control candidate. >> raise taxes and build roads. you are right. some people are good at faking ai authenticity and trump is doing it. he does seem to be less packaged than hillary clinton and jeb bush. >> obviously he's running against republicans. doesn't it say a lot, his popularity to the fact that it is hillary clinton and who's big on the republican side jeb bush. maybe that has something to do with it. >> people like him because he's not a typical collision. when you poll people they can't stand democrats, republicans in congress. hillary is a disaster. you can't throw her in to an interview. she's too afraid to sit at the table and do an interview because she doesn't do well.

she won't sit with any of us. >> would she be afraid to come here? >> she's terrified of tom. >> i'm scared of him. he would try total confidence in himself. she's afraid of herself. lack of fearlessness. sitting a the table she could handle any question. >> i disagree. i don't think she would do well at all. i think she had a harder time with media. unlikable candidate. big problem. i think donald trump appeals to people. he is a charismatic guy. he does appear he's speaking from the heart. the problem is he wants to champion universal health care and gun control.

>> whatever works. >> he stands for nothing. conservatives are not going to back him. >> you contractually obligated. >> i wouldn't be here if it weren't for him and his pageants and his brand. that's the thing, right? we have bush and clinton, both well known names. a lot of early polls are about name recognition. but clinton and bush are two names that have to rebrand themselves. they are two new people who are running. they are not the past. they don't want to be associated with the past. trump is an already established brand that has done very well. he's not trying to rebrand himself because he doesn't have to. >> that's true. >> i think people like that. he's not pretending to be one of us. he is not reinventing his story. he is what he is. >> no one that donald trump should be president. >> ever? >> the rest of the camp could learn something by his message.

people are tired of folks like that. >> the fact he can speak for five minutes without blowing up is a skill set. candidates both parties need to learn. a lot of these candidates talk off script they say insane things out of the gate. >> trump says insanes things ou of the gate. >> but he can talk for five minutes. >> every day. >> on a daily basis. >> 45 minutes sill lil kwi. >> all the said is the whole country is filled. >> it is true. he is the only one who hasn't changed. he's trump. jeb is no longer bush he's jeb. hillary is hillary. i believe there are four candidates. bobby jindal made it official posting a video of himself and his wife telling their children the news. >> talk to you first and then you can tell your friend and

then you can tell everybody at baseball tomorrow right. not going to tell everybody at soccer. mommy and daddy have been thinking and talked a lot about. this and we decide we are going to run in the presidential campaign. >> that's good? >> what about you? >> i always put a go pro in the trees when i'm talking to the kids. >> i thought it was the nsa. >> you could tell the kids are excited. they perked up about hearing about a puppy possibility. >> if we move to the white house, you can have a puppy. >> yea! >> we need some conditions here dad. >> the two conditions they name it finnous and the kids aren't allowed to pet it. the camera continued to record as the family revealed dark secrets. >> how many fish have we killed in this house? >> john is there anything funny about a family of fish killers

in the white house? >> can't have that. immediately discredits him. that and the fact -- bobby jindal i'm not a fan. he reminds me of an evil wizard's assistant. something about him that i don't like. >> evil wizards need assistants? >> they do. there's something about him that makes the liberal in me -- >> what is it? i think he is a refreshing candidate and speaks his mind. he said something -- i wish i wrote down the wrote. he was talking about immigrants saying if you are going to immigrant in this country roll up your sleeves and get to work. because of his ratings i think he is able to say something like that. imagine if jeb said that. >> it is the constitutional principles that give him the nausea. can't handle that kind of thing. i don't think he will be president but he had a hard time responding to the state of the union address a few years back. i worry he might choke on a

debate stage. i need to see more of him but there are better candidates marco rubio, rand paul. ted cruz scott walker they are looking more toward those guys and part of it is there are so many options right now, who else are they going to pull, are you or i going to run. anyone could step up i'm running for president on the gop ticket. >> is he running for vp. >> most likely spot for him is vp. first of all, he is probably the smartest guy in the field. as governor has what had a lousy record. cutting taxes too far and not raising enough revenue. his apriefl rating is lower than barack obama's. it is hard to see how the translates to the presidency. >> are you a fan? >> no. i don't like the words he uses. when he announced he was running

for president he said join me on his website. why would you encourage anyone else to join you in running for president? we already have enough candidates. but that said why does everyone keep joining the race? would you -- i say compete compete for president for 2016 when there's a large pool of people a large competition, part of that year or part of year where there aren't many standouts and you are one of the few. i feel like it is more impressive if you are there the year when there are 2,000 people. >> going to be a fun year and fun stage. i think at some point we have 13 now it's going to get confusing for people. people are going to start to say we have enough already and will start to ignore the people that declare later. unless you are a scott walker who's a big name and everyone has been looking to bobby jindals and other candidates will get lost. >> i'm not supposed to give advice but if he promised every in iowa a puppy. >> i'd vote for him.

>> puppies always work. former inmate says the prison worker accused of helping two murderers escape had sex with one of them over 100 times in a sex closet. i hope they didn't wrinkle my dinner jacket. the inmate told "the new york post" that mitchell and sweat would go in to a storage room at the end of their shifts in the tailor shop where they worked. he said mitchell was tickled by the attention. i know that look because i had it whenever a girl talked to me. >> you did? >> i did, yes. that look of -- when the girl who's like above you in -- >> out of your league. >> you are not an ugly girl anymore. >> you are a handsome guy. >> did you go to an all boys school? >> no. >> you went to all boys catholic

school did you not? >> i went to public school all the way. >> i went to an all girl catholic school. >> that's who i am thinking of. >> you like the bad boys. >> i don't like the serial killers or murderers, that's a bit too. i stick to the small crimes tom. >> petty theft. >> i can't believe the stuff that goes on in prison. >> sexy. >> this is crazy to me. they should have a reality show. i want to see this televised. this is a television show that i unfortunately would watch. this is fascinating to me this was going on in the closet and then -- this story is just fascinating. >> snuck the tools in. >> nobody heard it. >> and also raw meat. >> food network. get the food network involved. >> we laugh but i think the prison should be like the old alcatraz where you couldn't get out of your cell and everyone wore black. i don't want people walking around going to the tailor shop. i don't like that. >> getting your raw meat.

having sex closets. >> terrible. >> i did not know that prisons had sex closets and if you have sex 100 times with someone in the sex closet you are dating. >> oh special. >> do you think it was 100 times? people tend to exaggerate don't they? >> what do you think of the sex closet. >> this reminds me of 1998 when no one matters. the new blue dress. >> it is like prison escaping from prison whatever but these bad guys are out there and i hope nobody gets hurt. >> it is scary. >> if they do i will feel bad for having humorous segment about this. >> look at. this i know one of them looks like me. coming up who's the biggest sinner in baseball? if you guessed it is a yankees you are right. stay tuned more "red eye" in just a few.

i remember the days when we could put a star athlete on a pedestal and not have to worry that he'd fall. they knew they were role models and lived up to their status. but we live in an age of fallen heros and it's a rare athlete that doesn't manage to let us down at some point. lance armstrong juiced his way to victory, hudson bet on baseball but the most egregious of all, derek jeter who made hundreds of millions paying for the yankees took his girlfriend out for pizza in rome and split the check. that's right. captain clutch goes dutch. say it ain't so bro.

we can forgive a lot but $400 million tightwad i don't think so. i almost didn't wait for my little moment with tom. >> too eager to get to it. >> come on. i have been waiting to take down jeter for years. i knew there was something wrong with him. he's cheap. >> i love the yankees and caain. let me go on record saying that. but honestly this guy makes a fortune. he is not embarrassed to have this story written. i don't care what discussion happened i don't care if he said no i can get it. if i made that much money -- >> if i did that voice for her. >> somebody takes me on a date you be a man and pay that bill. especially if you are worth that much money. be a man. >> be a man, pay the bill. >> pick up the check like a real man. >> hi picks it up and puts it back down. >> i'm the pretty one. i wasn't the ugly girl.

>> your girlfriend makes a good salary right? >> she pays for the pizza. she buys me anything i want at papa johns. we're that rich. we don't even look at the bill. just -- look i respect derek jeter. i'm a fan of the mets. rich people are cheap, isn't that like a conservative eddic thing. don't rich people stay rich because they are cheap. >> i'm not sure. >> jo ann, come on you are often taken out on the town by rich sugar daddies. you wouldn't want to split a check, would you? >> free meal and compliments. we are asking the wrong questions. i want to know what was on the pizza, i want to know if they ate it with a fork and knife and if they had a servant wipe their mouths for them. i think in a week we will find out this was an ad for american express because they both used their black amex cards to pay

for this. >> it was their black amex cards. >> it might be an ad. >> what was the pizza, truffles? >> i never thought about that. two black amex cards. of course it was a stunt. ron, you haven't been saying anything but your eyes have been blinking. >> okay. here's all i know about derek jeter as a tiger fan. first of all, i hate him. isn't he the guy when he was single every time he brought a woman he would give her a gift basket. >> how did i miss that? >> didn't get a basket? >> no. we have time for the most important story of the day. >> i'm jealous i didn't. lexus created a real working hover board. aisle i'm still learning to use my skateboard. i can tell you about it or just show you the video.

♪ ♪ i'm not convinced. is this a lie? i don't believe it. >> what was that bs. >> hover board. >> that doesn't exist except in my dreams. i want a hover board and i want to be on a hover board and i want to die. >> sounds morbid. >> but it is lexus. awesome. >> this is what they promised isn't it? >> you have something above the frame, well balanced and practical. nothing to do with politics. >> you love the michael j. fox in back to the future. didn't you want one of these. >> i want a marty mcfly with my

hover board. i have been dreaming about this forever. i loved marty mcfly. i love nerdy boys. >> this is amazing. >> this is my opinion. >> look all the stuff that we see in movies that could never happen. i'm telling you in due time deloreans terminators they are all coming. i know i talk about terminators every time i'm on the show. it is coming. you better learn to ride one. >> i am willing to bet ron and i tried to our hands on one of those. remember at boys life they would say you can liv tate all you need is a vacuum cleaner. >> we will have a phone that we can pull up information on it and someday it will happen. >> it is amazing. >> what do you think hover boards cool for you? >> i once tried to use a skateboard and threw my back out when i was like 12. might have been the back brace issue. i don't know this isn't for me.

lexus great cars if this were a real thing it would be the upper echelon of hover boards. i don't know. >> okay. coming up, andy's futile attempt to find a flaw in my performance.

live from america's news headquarters a second new york state prison worker is behind bars after charged in connection with the escape of two killers. gene palmer is accused of promoting prison contraband an tampering with evidence in the escape of sweat and matt from the clinton county correctional facility in dannemora. bail was with set for palmer during arraignment last night. $25,000 cash or $50,000 bond. he's due in court later today. hundreds of law enforcement personnel are looking for sweat and matt who escaped three weeks ago. a federal judge officially sentenced dzhokhar tsarnaev to death yesterday. the judge telling tsarnaev he will be remembered for murdering and hurting innocent people. he offered an apology at the

hearing but some victims say they are not buying it. >> he said he was remorseful. i find that hard to believe since i have come to a lot of the trial and never really saw that at all from him. it really does not change anything for me because what he took from me i'm never going to be able to regain. >> reporter: attorneys for accused mass murderer james holmes start to present their defense today. they said the case will focus on mental illness as they try to convince jurors he was insane when he opened fire in a packed theater in 2012 killing 12 people. thousands of people filing past the open casket of south carolina state senator clementa pinckney to pay their respects yesterday. pinckney was the pastor at the emanuel ame church in charleston and one of nine people shot to death during a bible study group last week. president obama will deliver the

eulogy at pinckney's funeral tomorrow. now back to "red eye." welcome back to find out what we got wrong and what we missed from tv's andy in the red eye news deck. >> what do you got there? >> little coffee. >> i will let you get to that. >> okay. >> tom, you said -- oh trump is in second place in new hampshire. you said the poll results may indicate that trump needs to be taken more seriously. >> yeah. >> no. >> you can't argue with the numbers. >> i can and i shall and i will. and i must. >> don't under estimate the republican voter, andy. >> that i would never do. or the democratic voter. trump says of jeb bush he couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag whereas trump has proven he is a good negotiator.

strump a reflection of theening aer in the country which is a fair point. of course the candidate almost never win. >> always a first time. >> don't scare me like that. >> john you said of trump's popularity it is crazy winning withing over dishonest. you think he will beat hillary. >> first of all, on the record. >> hillary is too afraid to sit at that table right now. i don't know if afraid is the right word for that. how do you think she will do in a debate with bernie sanders. by avoiding press she may hurt herself down the road. >> she's not good at it and she knows it. the more time she spends out there the more problematic it will be. she was promoting her book and the media was all over her. bernie sanders is like a

caricature in a cartoon but people are excited about him. hillary needs the practice. >> you said clinton and bush have to rebrand themselves. but in hillary's case she is 92. hard to rebrand at that point, don't you think? >> yeah i think the past was a long time ago. >> very long past. >> john, i like you compliment trump. you wouldn't be a happier democrat. >> i think it is great. i want to vote for him in a primary. >> absolutely. i could actually see you registering as a republican. >> just to get him on the ticket. trump jindal. >> let's talk about jindal. here's why i'm never voting for jindal. the video from his website. as you noted he has hidden cameras in his trees and who knows where else secretly recording conversations with his family. i don't trust a guy like that to maintain oversight of the nsa. john you said something about

jindal reminds you of a wizard's assistant. >> wizards can be any race. >> all right. >> one day he could be a wizard. in fact, in some ways he's a wizard of louisiana. a grand wizard. >> you said you don't like that jindal was inviting people to run for president because we have enough people running. is it possible he might have been talking about a human centipede thing? >> oh, yeah. if there's parade and everyone is in a costume together. >> that's sort of what i meant. >> bless your heart for not knowing what a human centipede is. >> is that something you do in a sex closet? >> just be happy you don't know. >> okay. >> tom, as you know during the show i monitor in realtime the red eye twitter feed. >> yes. >> i have a question for you,

someone with asked when will you formally endorse hillary. >> i do not endorse candidates. >> i will let him know. >> former prison tilly mitchell -- by the way, what we calling her janet. >> she has a lot of names. >> she had sex 100 times if a prison closet. great discussion of whether tom is a good looking guy. informative for viewers. is the human centipede 100 times in a closet. >> it really isn't. >> do you know it must have to do with 100. >> i believe we have a clip from the movie. can we put that up? i kid of course. >> tom said you like the bad boys. >> petty crime. >> that's how it starts. >> but no it gets too democrat dramatic. you have to keep it simple.

i like rescuing a guy from prison but i don't want to have him in there for years. >> that's how it starts and next thing you know you are married to manson. >> true. >> >> all cough 0 days ago you were interviewing ross on this show and said you thinktaire confinement are good and you don't like stuff like that. >> i don't think that solitaire is god. alcatraz where you have a bunk mate and play chess with them. the good old days. >> all right. ron, you said you learned in 1998 with clinton -- '98 or '88. >> '98. nobody remembers the infraction that only the sex counts and clinton said i did not sexual relations with that woman and turns out he wasn't counting oral sex as isle is relations and now mitchell told her husband she did not have sex with either of the escaped cons an now we find out she was going

to the sex clos set with him. it is possible she took a clue from the former president and that's what they were doing in this closet. >> do you think this is an impeachment offense? >> i hope so. derek jeter went dutch at dinner. you said i remember the days when we could put a star on a pedestal and not worry he would fall. what days like these. mickey mantle would literally fall. >> i'm talking about figuratively andy. the only kind that mattered. >> hate on another yankees. i see how it is. >> you said you are a fan of the mets. >> will have them. >> you see the problem there, right? >> not at all. >> you can look it up after the show. >> you said you want to know what was on the pizza. did they eat it with a knife and fork. it was half pepperoni, half broccoli and they did not eat it with a knife and fork. >> really?

>> my main concern jeter is 40 and she's 25 which seems a little old for him, i think. i'm just afraid she might not be around much longer and she has her black card. she can afford to split a pizza. >> i think it is an endorsement thing. >> it might be. well spoken. >> thanks. lastly lexus video that shows a hover board, only thing it shows is that magnets work and we knew that already. it shows absolutely nothing else. >> how do they work? how do magnets work. >> they work. >> could be a wizard. >> i think it is interesting you said you were for hover boards as long as women aren't allowed to ride them. >> this is the hardest thing i have ever done. this has been the longest five hours. >> you lie, andy.

>> i'm done. >> i can pretend he's over there. >> he's over there. we're lying. he's over there. ron, thank you. >> thank you for doing the show. honestly. great to have your viewpoint. i know you have to go back to washington and fix that town. read the national journal. coming up what your dog really thinks of you and first tonight's red eye poll.

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a man in virginia was awe warded $500,000 in punitive damages after his anesthesiologist insulted him during a procedure. the man, d.b. no relation to cooper went to the doctors for a colonoscopy. before being anesthetized he hit record on his smartphone voice recorder to make sure he captured the post op instructions instead of pert nert information, d.b. heard the medical professionals mocking him thusly. >> after five minutes talking in preop i wanted to punch him in the face. >> round and round we go. wheel of annoying patients we go. where it'll land nobody knows.

>> d.b. voice. "game of thrones." >> yeah. >> andy. >> thank you for inviting me. >> oh that's right. i probably should have mentioned. so glad to get you here from the red eye news deck. >> last minute. i will try to help out. >> andy i don't have much sympathy for this patient, d.b. he's a real pain. i think he annoyed them and he was unconscious who cares what they say. >> at worst they were unprofessional but if we're going to make fun of people for being unprofessional we can't do that really. other thing he sued them for defamation. no one would have known those things except that he sued them and we just played the recording. i don't understand what the jury was thinking here. >> i can tell you what the jury was thinking. they are thinking i would never want to be in his position. that's the most vulnerable position you can be in to be under anesthesia to not know

what is going on. you are supposed to trust your doctor. they falsified records saying he had hemorrhoids when he didn't. >> she was joking about that. >> no. they actually did. if you look at the case if you look at the case and the paperwork -- >> well you know. >> he just made that up. >> i think i read something. >> she said she was going to check hemorrhoids and she might have been doing him a solid. >> i'm a terrible patient. i'm a terrible patient. this happens to me. i went for an end i don't see copy. i tortured everyone. i was convinced the sedation was making my heart rate raise. i know they are talking about me. all i want to know is how he got his phone in there and was able to record this because that's what i want to document i know they are saying things and quite frankly i need the cash. >> we know it was a colonoscopy so we know he couldn't have

hidden it. >> he put it in his pocket. >> they say it was in his pants and his pants were under the table. >> yeah. >> i've -- apparently that is where you put your valuables. >> this man was betrayed and hurt. have you ever had a colonoscopy? >> no. but i'm going to go get one. >> you are only if you go the hospital. >> you are vuler in able. you are open. this is why tort reform. >> he claimed he was recording because he wanted to make sure he got all of the pertinent doctor's instructions. >> basically he probably tortured them on purpose and acted like a psycho and recorded it hoping he would find something that he could sue for

and get the money. is that what your implication is? >> you are right on target. >> you and i, man. same page. >> he recorded it and they mocked him while his butt hole was open. he's vulnerable. you are on your side. >> what's wrong with mocking? if he was being chatty kathy during the procedure and once he was out. >> they said he might have syphilis or tuberculosis. >> he's vulnerable. bunch of tough guys. >> said he wanted to record pertinent post op instructions. >> the op post is go to sleep and forget this sglapd there are certain dietary restrictions. >> we know he was -- they don't have law against recording. obviously he was lying. >> man of the people. close things out with a bedtime story.

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coming up tomorrow, mike baker, gavin mcginness and ben donovich. at bedtime as a kid i didn't worry about color or size i matched one garanimal to the other. soon we will be doing pushups wearing poppies. an athletic company is putting size shaming to bed by replacing numerical sizes with flower names. the website says we don't want women to feel bad ordering a size that society has deemed unacceptable. we want you to get what fits. to find your size use your measurements not society's idea of what you should be. yeah society, stop being judgmental. a rose by any name still smells like sweat really. these are workout clothes. >> isn't this a brilliant way to

get women to forget what size they are? >> no. because when you go on the website you have to enter your size to know what flower name you are. you are reminded -- if you go to the website, you have to click -- we might have a visual. i wanted to see what it was. i believe i'm a poppy. but then i wonder are the names of the sizes, i guess the daisy, technically the gerber daisy is the biggest flower which is offensive. you know? >> wait a minute is this women's clothes. i was excite. i can't get some daisies or poppies. >> doesn't matter to me. when i workout i work do it as the greeks worked out, naked and hairless. >> oh. >> i don't care. >> i'm not ashamed of my body. >> this explains the colontheodore

david coleman -- colons no copy. >>. [ laughter ] i'm not going to look that up. i will not. you workout, would this help you choose workout clothes? no. i want to be a calla lily. they are pretty and elegant. then we will have women competing, i want the cute or the skinny or dainty flower. no matter what -- >> are they talking down >> people suck. that's the bottom line. >> it doesn't make a difference. if the biggest flower is daisy or daal ya bigger one. if that became the society's way of actually determining sizes, it wouldn't be any different. you would be like look at that daisy over there. it makes absolutely no sense. >> she thinks she's a poppy. >> double daisy. >> all right.

guys. well thank you for being here. andy thank you for joining the panel in my pleasure. >> that does it for me. i'll see you tomorrow night.

tonight with calls for change across this country in the wake of a deadly shooting in charleston we have a dramatic exclusive on a story of murder hate and race. this one not in south carolina but in the country's heartland. welcome to "the kelly file" i'm megyn kelly. a week ago tonight a young man corrupted by hate walked into a church in charleston and murdered nine african harn-americans in an act