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♪ >> great show, greg. >> a special edition of "the o'reilly factor" is on tonal. it's the factor's most compelling -- >> what we are discussing is how we should have a discussion. >> barbara walters sits down with "the factor" for her last interview. i have many questions for her. is there a war on woman? killing jesus was a huge success. kelsey grammar has a lot to say about his role. king har added on. >> people will be surprised to see how evil you are in this movie. you're an evil guy. i wrote you evil and you played it evil. >> okay. >> and also actor gary sinise
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about why he is so passionate about helping american wounded vets. >> really the vietnam war veterans that educated me about what they had been through and how terrible it was for them to come home. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the primary anchor on univision jorge ramos asked me for an interview. i immediately said okay because mr. ramos is a stand-up guy. he comes in here when we ask him. the interview is interesting because jorge and i see the world very differently. >> thanks so much for inviting me to your set. >> a pleasure. you always come on "the factor," jorge. you are a standup guy and so i'm happy to talk to you. >> this is the no spin zone. so when it comes to race, politics, immigration, you are clearly right wing. >> well, that's your opinion but i would say that i'm a problem-solver on immigration, for example, which is one of your big issues, all right? >> sure. >> i want everyone to be treated fairly.
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i don't oppose a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens in america. i do not oppose that. >> but you want to secure the border. >> correct. because i don't want the merry go round to continue which i don't think does the country any good. chaos doesn't do anybody any good. >> but you want an impenetratable border. >> well, it's possible. if it's made a felony they won't do it anymore, will they, jorge? >> will they? >> will they jorge? make it a felony to overstay their visa they won't overstay their visas anymore. >> they are coming because we are giving them jobs. >> all right. so let's revise that and have a worker program. i'm for a fair immigration law. >> but to say that you want to secure the border that's just an excuse to do nothing. >> well, no, if i were the president, i would secure the border, jorge. if you have 150,000 children crossing the border, you don't have a secure border.
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>> no, no, no. >> come on. >> that's exactly the opposite. what it means is that the system is working. therefore, they are detained. they surrendered to the authorities. >> they shouldn't get to the authorities, you see, in most countries you can't get to the authorities. you can't even get in because of the way they have it structured. we need to have a system whereby it's impossible to physically get in unless you go through the process. you can do it. >> it's almost impossible. anyway, you claim there is not such a thing as white privilege in america. >> correct. >> many african-americans disagree with you. and some of them believe that, for instance, trayvon martin and michael brown were killed simply because of the color of their skin. >> i respect that belief but i don't believe it's based on facts. when 99.9% of the arrests made in the united states and african-americans are arrested out of proportion to the rest of the population, result in no harm to no one, you must say that the police aren't targeting anyone.
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>> don't you think that michael brown died simply because -- >> what? do you believe that -- >> he was shot. he was completely unarmed. >> you have to let the process play out first. you are jumping to conclusions. do you believe this police officer in ferguson woke up and said i'm going to kill a black man? do you believe that? >> not like that. >> do you believe that he hated black people this police officer? >> we don't know that. >> that's right. we don't know it? >> we are seeing examples of african-americans, african-americans being killed. >> you are seeing a few. not many. a few. >> i'm sure you saw this article by nicholas christophe in "the new york times." >> yes, i did. >> when whites just don't get it. i think he is talking about you because he is mentioning you. >> of course he is talking about me. >> he demonstrates when it comes to net worth, income, employment -- >> yes. >> life expectancy. >> yes. >> incarceration rate. >> right. >> that whites are doing much better than african-americans. >> and asians are doing
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better than whites. >> is that white privilege? >> no. is it aigsz asian privilege that asians do better than whites. >> i know you want to talk about that but here we are talking about there is a white privilege in america. >> there isn't. that's a myth. >> what is it then? >> what it is that you have to look at the successful' people and what makes them successful. therefore i took the asian american community and i said here is why they make more money than whites or blacks because they keep the family together, because there is an emphasis on education, because there is parental supervision of children. those things in the asian-american communities are in stone. while it's eroding in the white and it's almost nonexistent in some black areas. the government cannot solve those problems. if you have 72% of children born out of wedlock in the african-american community, 72%, you're going to have poverty, jorge. >> there is white privilege in this country. let me jump to another thing. >> sure. >> as an irish catholic you said that the idea of writing "killing jesus" came from the holy spirit.
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>> right. >> really? >> yeah. you are catholic, right? >> no. i was born catholic. i'm not a catholic anymore. but it is very dangerous to mix politics and religion. >> i'm not mixing politics. i'm an ordinary citizen i wrote a book. >> you are not ordinary citizen because you are suggesting that god -- >> no. i'm an ordinary citizen, american citizen, jorge. >> talked to you somehow. >> you were born catholic, correct? >> yes. >> in the catholic and christian religion, there is god, right? >> yes. >> and where do we get our talents from? where do we get our inspiration from? >> yeah, but to say that the holy spirit talked to you. >> where do we get it from? are you a christian now? >> no, i'm not a christian. >> you are nothing? >> no. >> you understand the christian theology. >> of course. >> i believe in that, is >> that okay? >> of course, that's your own belief. >> i believe in it. i believe there is an active god who inspires. when i was asked when i got the idea from jesus i think i was inspired by the holy spirit. you object to that? you object to me stating my religious beliefs as an american? >> that's your belief but if
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you are suggesting that god talks to you and then you constantly every single day give your political opinion, it's -- >> jorge, you are drawing a real crazy arc here. i believe i'm inspired because i believe i'm in the christian theology. you don't believe it. but why do you object for me saying it? why can't i say what i believe? >> you can say whatever you want. >> thank you. >> thanks so much for talking to us. >> it's a pleasure. >> and allowing us here in the no spin zone. >> it's a pleasure. patriotism on deck. actor gary sinise millions raised for vets who need help. mr. sinise is moments away.
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money for the gary sinise foundation. ♪ >> here now, mr. sinise. how many of these benefits do you do a year, do you think? >> oh, gosh. we have a lot of money to raise at the foundation. we are doing a lot of things, building homes and resiliency events. the band is part of my foundation. i'm doing various fundraisers and the band fundraiser. it's maybe 35 concerts a year. >> all right. so almost every weekend if you are doing 35. that's a lot. now, plain. there is a foundation. i have a foundation named after my parents. you have a foundation. what does your foundation do? >> it's a military support charity. that's what it is. i have been involved with vets going back to the 80's. after i played the wounded veteran in "forrest gump" in the '90s, i got very involved with our wounded. and then after september 11 we needed help with iraq and afghanistan, supporting our men
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and women. so i volunteered for the uso, started going out there. and helping military charities like the independence fund. i got involved with them. >> with the track chairs and everything like that. >> i got involved with them in 2000. >> your foundation does what? >> one of the programs that we have is called rise restoring independence, supporting empowerment, that means we want to provide specially adapted housing for our wounded veterans. >> okay. >> mobility devices, track chairs, that kind of thing. adapted vehicles. >> right. >> we want to do things to empower them and give them their independence back. >> that's very, very important. so you played an amputee in "forrest gump." you got to talk to some the vets and you got empathy, is that the word, empathy for them that you felt it was your mission to do this? >> partially, and i had been involved with vietnam veterans groups going back to the 1980s. so i had very serious compassion for them. >> what was it that attracted you to the
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military side of it? >> the military first of all, on my side of the family. world war i, world war ii and korea on my side of the family. it was really the vietnam era veterans that educated me as a young man about what they had been through and how terrible it was for them to come home. when we started deploying to iraq and afghanistan, i didn't want to see that happening to them. >> you weren't in the military yourself, right? >> no. i was -- >> and i didn't serve either. i can't say that i do nearly as much as you do for the military but certainly we have raised millions of dollars for the track chairs here as the folks know. when you do these things, it's hard sometimes. i mean, it's hard because you are a busy guy, a successful actor. you live out on the west coast. you have got a family to take care of. yet you're out all the time. does that ever weigh on you? >> well, it does. but there is a lot of satisfaction also when you see that can you do something to help somebody. >> absolutely. >> there is a lot of spiritual nourishment you get from that.
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>> spiritual nourishment. you are a believer in god. >> yes, sir. >> and christianity and helping others? >> i have felt in some ways that i was called to do this. i have a -- there is a thing that i can provide. there is a thing that i can do. there is a way that i can raise awareness. there is a way that i can give back. >> you are using your fame, obviously, for good to do this. i kind of do the same thing. i figure, a million to one, actually 20 million to one i'm here. so i might do some good. the guy -- when i visit the wounded and try to make a big deal out of it, but they are almost stunned to see you. you know it's -- and it's me. it's me the one, i'm the one that is privileged to be with them, you know? >> i'm sure they are stunned to see you, bill. >> they are. we didn't know you were so tall. that's auld, you know -- >> i'm sure they are stunned. >> i bet you feel the same way. i don't want them to think that i'm anything special.
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they are the special ones. you know, they are giving and sacrificing for the country. >> they don't expect anything, you know. they really don't expect celebrities who walk in the door and take their time to come and visit them. when you go to the war zones and you go to the hospitals and you go around and play for them like i have over a number of years, even with all that i have done i'm still -- every single time i do it, i get so much nourishment out of it. i just feel that, you know, enriched in some way. >> plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. barbara walters retired but not before i asked her some political questions on the war on women, for example. >> is there a war on women in america? you are one of the top women. >> i don't think so. women can do and do do whatever the men do.
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thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly. in the personal story segment tonight, barbara walters. at age 84 she is retiring from television giving up moderating "the view" and abc specials. i have known ms. walters many years and have had many interesting conversations with her. i believe the one tonight will fit into that category as well. is there a war on women in america? you are one of the top women. >> i don't think so. >> okay. no war on women, right? >> i don't think so. somebody asked me recently was i a feminist? and i thought that's an old fashioned word now, feminist. because with rare exceptions women can do and do do whatever the men do. >> good. i'm glad you said that because i think that's the biggest phony issue i have heard. do you have any resentment against men? and i say that because harry reasoner gave you a hard time. some of the other boys the old journalist people were derissive toward you. when i worked at abc i heard bad things about you. i never saw it myself. do you have any resentment against male colleagues? >> no.
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>> did they hurt you? >> no. i didn't like some of the things i had to fight against them. i think there was still the old school of hard news and it should be men. but that's gone. i like men. i enjoy being with men. i don't have a problem and i don't have resentment. >> okay. because jennings thought you were a little softball, you know that, right? >> peter was his own piece of work, as we say. >> i had access to jennings and i used to say look, why are you you giving her a hard time for, all right? she is going out and getting information from these people. that's what you want information, right? and then he would tell me to shut up and get out of his office. all right? i saw it firsthand. but you are telling me you don't have any resentment against these guys? >> i don't have time for a lot of resentment. my time was spent during my homework, trying to ask the best questions. trying to get the big get. i didn't spend a lot of time saying why did they do that to me and i'm going to get even. i don't think that way. >> you are a liberal woman. you are sympathetic to pro-choice people,
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politically correct people. remember when i was on "the view" and goldberg and behar ran off because i said muslims killed us on 9/11? >> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? is that what you are saying? >> extremists did that. >> what religion was mr. mcveigh? mcveigh was an extremists as well. >> i'm telling you, 70% of -- >> i don't want to sit here now. i don't. >> you are outraged about muslims killing us on 9/11? [cheers and applause] >> i want to say something. >> you were sitting next to me. you knew what i meant. you knew that it was muslim extremists. you knew that. >> look, i do have my own views. but when i am working professionally, i do try to keep my own views out. >> but you can't on "the view." it's an opinion show. >> but i do. i'm not sure that everybody who watches "the view" knows really what my political feelings are. >> everybody knows you are
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liberal, barbara. i don't want to break it to you too gently everybody knows. >> i am? >> everybody knows. >> do they really? >> but i want to know this. when you saw behar and goldberg -- two uber liberals -- you are not an uber liberal. when they ran off and you knew what i was saying -- >> what i said was on the air, this is their show. we are the hosts. you don't do that to a guest. >> why do you think they did it? >> because they felt personally affronted. but my feeling was -- >> did they really? >> we are going to old stuff, bill. >> no. but this is what everybody remembers. >> okay. i felt when this is your show and you are in charge, you take what the guest gives and you work with it. you don't get up and walk out in a huff. i told them that. >> i want to say something to all of you. you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage. i love my colleagues. that should not have happened.
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>> you told tv guide that oprah, oprah winfrey -- >> yes. >> is a person that you could not interview enough. >> did i say that? i guess i felt that about oprah. and i feel it about some others. i'm going to throw out names at you. these are not the ones i think of, you know, as the top interviews but they are people i can interview again and again. bette midler, i can always talk to her. there's always something new and fresh and funny. and charming. >> cher. i haven't interviewed her in years. but cher was always original. there are certain people whom you can come back and interview again and again. and there are certain people you do it once and you have got it. there is no new point. i can interview you every day and find stuff to talk to you about. >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> that's one of the reasons you do a show every day. >> i think that journalism has changed in america, particularly on television. that it's become now a forum to advance agendas. do you understand what i'm saying?
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>> i do. >> rather than delivering news and facts to people, that the news agencies have turned now to push certain people. and i think barack obama is a good example of how the media got behind him and promoted him. and to this day many of them still do. do you disagree? >> i don't think this is what's happened to news. i think what's happened to news is that it's gotten lighter and lighter. we don't have news magazines anymore. they almost don't exist. the ones that we have, they are perhaps more tabloid. and everybody wants it to be fun. and everybody wants everybody to laugh. and everybody wants it sort of to be like "the view." that's what i think. >> why am i so successful? >> god knows. >> i'm darth vader here. >> you know why you are so successful since this may be my last time with you? because you are smart and you are courageous and you can take it as well as you give it. okay? >> all right, ms. walters. >> i love being on with you. >> we wish you the best. i said you are the most
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successful woman tv journalist of all time. it is absolutely a fact. and i think everybody should understand that. >> thank you, billy. >> ms. walters has always been respectful to me and others here at the fox news channel. she deserves credit for that and for simply being a legend. can big-time athletes and movie stars calm racial tensions in the usa? we will talk with a former nba star, jailin rose. introducing otezla apremilast. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts,
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good evening. a nuclear deal with iran is said to be close with an announcement coming possibly as early as monday. but some issues still need to be worked out. the deal would limit iran's nuclear capabilities in return for a lifting of u.s. and international sanctions, and some details are leaking out. one leak suggesting iran will not have to agree to unannounced facility inspections. that's supposed to be a u.s. deal breaker. meantime in brussels eurozone and greek negotiators working late into the night on a financial bailout for greece. european officials say obstacles remain especially on the issue of when the european central bank will give greek banks more euros. some banks could run out of money as early as monday. i'm kelly wright. back to an "o'reilly factor" special now.
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welcome back to the special edition of "the o'reilly factor," the most compelling stories. turning now to the racial division in america. we all know the problem. blacks, whites, hispanics all see american society somewhat differently. and the divide between police and the minorities in this country has reached a big time problem. we recently spoke about it with former nba stars jalen rose and metta world peace. roll the tape. you were raised in a very tough town, detroit. how do you see the police in america, generally speaking? >> i respect the police. i respect all public officials. if i could stop the world on its axis right now, military, firemen, the police department teachers, they should all be paid double. that's how much i respect what they do for our great country. >> so when you see protesters out there saying listen police
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are generally racist and they give black americans a harder time than white americans, how do you, jalen rose, react to that? >> i don't think the police start their day by getting in the car looking at one another as two white cops saying hey, we are going to go harass as many blacks as we can today and shoot them down in cold blood. what happens is you have unfortunate situations taking place caused national uproar, trayvon martin, michael brown or eric gardner killing. the statistics now has people saying, wow, it happens to be a white cop versus a blad individual. let's further investigate. when you don't indict, all of a sudden the hoody, all of a sudden i can't breathe. now it becomes a rally cry, not against the police but against a system that a lot of people sometimes feels like continues to let them down. >> before i let you go, i want to tell everybody that you, in addition to your
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commentary, put your money where your mouth is. you are trying to repair relations between the police and young black people in the city of detroit. just tell us about that. >> when i started jalen rose leadership academy a free tuition charter public high school in my hometown, one of my goals was to put a police mini station in our school because a lot of time when that interaction happens, there is tension involved and you don't get to see the chance to see that interaction happen when it's friendly. so, unfortunately, detroit doesn't have the funding for police mini stations anymore. so the idea didn't come to fruition. come to fruition. but it's very important for us to have that interaction when it's not hostility involved. >> all right. your academy is funded by private donations? >> yes. we are tuition-free public charter. we are state-funded but our goal is to bridge the education gap through funding, through opportunity, which, in turn, leads to achievement.
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do you tell them as the mayor of new york city did, to watch out for the police? >> well, i make sure my kids understand people, understand if somebody is racist it came from somewhere. they didn't just -- they wasn't born racist. if somebody is a gang member they weren't born a gang member. i want to make sure that my children understand the environment they live in. not all police are bad. i grew up in an environment where police were around a lot. i experienced some profiling. i experienced good police. i remember growing up playing basketball. police actually took off their guns, put it on the ground, and play basketball with us. >> in queens. >> in queens. you never do that, right? i experienced both sides. >> what's the message of this book? >> the message is you don't want to start racial wars or things like that. you want to have solutions. you want to, you know, have prevention tactics and things like that. and you also want to address issues. you don't want to just push it under the rug. you have to address it. >> it's written for children. >> it's written for
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children, absolutely. to grow up hating police hating another race blacks hating whites, whites hating blacks. that's why my book is very diverse. >> when you hear someone, you know, look, the ferguson, missouri thing it was established beyond any reasonable doubt -- >> right. >> that the initial reporting hands up. >> right. >> didn't happen. >> right. >> okay. do you feel it's necessary to correct the record to people who believe it did happen? >> i believe -- i do believe that and i also believe that blacks make up 70% of ferguson, and we are only 5% of law enforcement. and nobody is involved in politics. you know if you really want to change that community, you have to get involved. you have to get involved in the school system and change. >> absolutely. blacks are a majority in that town if they wanted
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they could have a black mayor and organize and have more power. >> organize in a more, you know -- >> i have known you for a while because i'm an nba fan. >> right. i see you all the time. >> your name used to be ron artest. >> used to be. >> why is it now metta world peace? >> i feel i continue to evolve and continue to connect to people, to the earth. >> to the earth? >> everything. >> okay. >> i'm just evolving as a person. i wanted my name to evolve. every day, every month i continue to evolve more and more. >> okay. so you wanted kind of a new age name, metta world peace? >> i just feel like changing it. >> what do they call you? >> meta. in china they call me panda. >> this year you played basketball in china. >> yeah. >> that must have been a trip, yeah. >> it was great. i enjoyed it so much. plenty more as "the factor" moves along this evening. new movie "killing jesus" one of the stars kelsey grammer plays king herod. he will be here. >> all the infants born in my kingdom, how will you find this one child destined to be
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and continuing now with the special edition of "the factor" in the personal story segment tonight, my book "killing jesus" became a very big success. and with that success, the book became a movie on national geo. >> i know you, jesus of nazareth. you have opinions on everything. what's his opinion on this?
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>> any among you who is without sin, let him be the first to cast the stone at her. any among you who is without sin. >> recently i sat down with two of the stars from the film. kelsey grammer, who plays the evil king herod, and has lehman a muslim actor, who plays the lead role of jesus. so you were raised in lebanon, correct? >> right. >> now, lebanon is an interesting place because there is a big christian community as well as obviously the muslim majority. when you were growing up as a muslim, did you know anything about jesus? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. we celebrated christmas. >> you did? >> oh, yeah. and i knew not so much in details about his teachings or what he stood for until later in my life. but i always understood his presence in my life and in the world and the importance of his presence and how he affected people.
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that i always got from a very young age, and how he influenced the world in such a positive and powerful way. >> let me follow you. what is your name? >> judas escariot. >> bless you, jesus. >> when you auditioned there were a lot of jesuss before you. there was the surfing jesus, in "the king of kings," blue eyed, blonde hair. when you auditioned you did such a nice job, they said well he is a muslim. i said, would jesus hire him? >> jesus. >> how could you know me? >> it's an honor for me to be in this position and when i told my mother, the first thing she said bless you, my son, for playing our prophet. peace be upon him. >> for ours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory. >> i was heavily influenced in
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his teachings. i have many people whom i was guided by in that process. when i you found out that i got the part, i only had but excitement, passion, and love. and i couldn't wait to get there and like start working on it, you know, and filming. in terms of preparation, i also like, read your book, which was fantastic. and the screenplay. i thought it was a nice job adapting the screenplay. >> and you brought anger to jesus, which i think some people are going to be surprised by. >> this is the house of prayer. >> this is my livelihood. >> when you summoned the anger in the scene when you go into the temple, your demeanor is not of a peaceful god. you are really wanting to right this wrong. what are you thinking about? >> he was playing the game. he was a very clever man. and when he went into that temple to do this, he did that for a purpose, a reason.
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>> oh, sure. >> he was trying to fulfill the prophecy. it's not entirely him being reactive. it was all planned and plotted in his mind with no judgment towards humanity and everything about it you know, in terms of like the story itself. if you really want to ask me the essence of it, it's a story about love and it's also a story about celebrating us humans what we are capable of doing for one another. >> this temple is god's glory. >> god's glory is love. >> fantastic performance. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for coming in. great to meet you. >> thanks for having me. absolute pleasure to meet you. >> a child, born in your kingdom is the god of israel's chosen, the messiah. >> the messiah? >> you are playing one of the worst men in the world. people that don't know the story, herod orders the murder of all infants under
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the age of 2 in the bethlehem area. how is it -- you are a beloved actor here in america. you are playing a really bad guy and you did that in "chicago." >> it's fine. i'm an actor. you lend yourself to the role. it's not -- it doesn't necessarily reflect on you. if it does, then maybe there is something wrong with the audience. >> people are going to be surprised, though to see how evil you are in this movie. you are an evil guy. i wrote you evil and you played it evil. >> okay. >> now, before you did "killing jesus," you were raised christian, i understand. >> uh-huh, yeah. >> did you have a frame of reference about jesus? >> he is the savior. that's how i go about it. without apology, i'm a christian. i'm not -- i was raised as a christian scientist but i'm not a practicing christian scientists at this day although i still observe many of the tenets of mary and her writings. he is the guy.
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he is the one. >> okay. when you got the role, and you start to research it, did you learn anything? >> well, you know, what's funny, maybe it's a karma or a kiss kiss -- or a kizmat kind of moment. things start to happen when i take a role all of a sudden i pick up history book in the hotel room. the first page opened on herod's palace. i started checking it out and i realized he was a man of great accomplishment and survived his own sort of rule for 30, 40 years. murdered half his own children. had 30 or 40 children. he was a very busy guy. >> he was busy. >> this is what helped me realize that he probably was worried about being assassinated. >> all the time, right. >> and then that led to -- people used to say when i first got the role how are you going to play him? wow, it's going to be so much fun. i thought what are they talking about?
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this isn't hamlet. herod is herod. i thought he must sleep with a weapon in his bed, he must. >> right. >> if he is that paranoid. that helped me to play the whole first scene. >> anything you learn through the whole first experience? >> i loved morocco. >> that's good. >> i had been to morocco 20 years previous and loved it then. and in tan jeers. drove through the mountains. fantastic people. wonderful culture. wonderful food. >> did you get to keep the costume so you can run around west hollywood now? >> with a beard. i had sort of a full beard myself at the time and, of course, not big enough to play one of those guys. i am actually a gentile, playing a jew, which is always very controversial. >> you brought a lot of edge to the role. >> i had fun. i had fun, bill. suzanne somers wants me to live a long time. why? we'll find out, moments away.
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as you may know as you may know act suzanne summers has written a number of books on health. she wants everyone to live longer, including me. so i talked with ms. summers, the author of the brand new book "talk thick." i asked suzanne summers to come in here because she's written like 95 books on how to be healthy, right? >> yep. >> so i get up pretty early in the morning. >> you need eight hours for all the repair work to happen. and can you sleep eight hours without drugs? >> i don't use any drugs. >> me neither. then you are so ahead of the game. >> i wake up sometimes in the middle of the night because i have brilliant thoughts that come to me and i go wow, that's a good thought. >> but you know what turns that
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noise off, if you take a supplement called gaba and it sort of takes the -- >> isn't that a drug? >> no. just a supplement. >> at breakfast, i have japanese tea. >> great. >> and then i have maybe a piece of gluten free toast. >> perfect. >> a little butter on it because i have to flavor it up. no problem. >> absolutely. ever since we went on the low fat movement we've gotten fatter and thicker. actually, with this new book i have, "tox-ices," i was watching one day and i went yeah because there were 80 strains of wheat. so that is kind of started me on the journey of writing this book of why are there so many allergies, why so much brain add, adhd. >> because it's in everything. >> in everything. >> then for lunch i have maybe a tuna sandwich or a ham and cheese and some soup chicken with rice something like that. >> great. but what kind of bread?
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>> some of the bread isn't that good. but i don't eat a lot of the bread. i take the crusts off. >> well you see, our fish is kind of wrecked. mercury settles up in the brain. >> pretty much anything you want. >> i've got a sweet tooth so i've got a little dessert. >> it's hard to digest but your steak you a ask for grass-fed. >> yeah. i ask and the guy who cooks the steak laughs and gives me what he has. again, this is new york. it's not the west coast. so if it's grass fed, it's better. >> if your cow ate corn which is what they're feeding the cows now and it's corn fed which is against their natural evolution, then they get infection and e. coli and then they have to give that cow antibiotics. >> so i'm not a fanatic about anything. i do eat some sugar.
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i think shrug ser bad because it puts weight on it. but i do have a little hhaagendaas. but life expectancy is around 80 years old. >> the futures say 110. >> but who wants to live to 110? >> what if you get to 110 and your brain is still sharp and you don't have any bone loss -- >> how do you prevent bone loss sflp. >> testosterone. >> i have plenty of that. >> you do but it has to be decline. you take a blood test and see where your level ves dropped and then you fill the tank. >> how dhea is in. >> that is a precursor to testosterone. >> i take -- i don't make any -- >> a lot of people they say you you don't need too much of that and your toes are going to fall off. >> my blood tests, exactly what i need. not too much, not too little, like goldie locks. >> you're a happy person? >> i'm a happy person. you would have been a freshman
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in high school when i was a senior and -- >> and you would have been mocking. get him out of here. all right. congratulations on trying to make the american population more healthy. and we always tell people you know, read the books, but check with your doctor beforehand what's best for you. thanks for putting up with me, suzanne. >> i get who you are. >> one of the very few. >> we went to separate schools. come up comedian collin quin has a few things to say about race relations in america.
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personal story segment tonig interesting new book by co interesting new book by comedian collin quin. it's called "the coloring book." i know you're being facetious and all that but you did grow up in a racially mixed neighborhood. >> yeah. >> i didn't. my town was all white. >> all irish? >> no.
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italians and a lot of jews but no blacks. where was your neighborhood and what did you learn? >> it's a small village back then, but i learned -- well that people like -- people could be prejudice without being racist, for example. >> because they don't know any better? >> well but they're being -- fair. >> do you, in this book i went through it but i didn't read it all. is there an overarching theme of the book that merps could lessen this racial situation? >> well i mean at least we could try. like i have ideas, but you need to have shows. >> yeah i know you like to have ideas. i have ideas unless we have -- because what we have right now is discussing how we should have a discussion. that's the only racial discussion you have. >> so you want to cut through the b.s. right? >> yeah. the anger or pandering voices you hear. as you know from any racial debate, everybody has their conclusion. so there's no discussion. they've already decided what they wanted. you know what i mean? they want to convince you.
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>> okay. you're in show business. you meet a lot of people.. is there racism in show business? do you think minority performers don't get the same breaks whites do? >> it's a white majority business. i wouldn't say they don't get the same breaks but i would say people hire their friends and the people they went to school with. >> there's more cronyism than -- >> but a lot of that is white cronyism. >> jon stewart and i, do you know him? >> yes. >> there are hardened beliefs. stewart beliefs white privilege is in play and i believe if you work hard no matter what color you are you can succeed. where do you come down on that? >> it's hard to say 100%. but i mean i do feel that -- i feel like it depends on the job. where there is -- so i mean i can't say this is 100% of what you're saying is right, but yes, i do believe that people use terms like "white prism" and and "white supremacy" too much.
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>> if you're funny, does it matter what color you are in your business? >> no. >> in the sports business if you can play and score, does it matter what color you are? >> no. >> if you can pick stocks that go up does it matter what color you are? >> bill i've never met a black stockbroker, let's be honest. >> wait a minute. there are there are, believe me. and if one of them comes in here and says i've got ten for ten, everybody is going for it. >> okay. >> let's go towards black students down there, come on. >> no i know what you're saying. >> you see, that's racist quin. you can't do that. i'm giving everybody a break. you, there's no black stock -- come on. you just killed your whole book. >> i live three blocks from wall street. i've never seen a black stockbroker. >> is that right? >> no. they work from home. >> there you go. >> good book very provocative, collin quin that's for coming
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in. >> thanks bill. >> that is it for us tonight. thank you for watching this special edition of "the factor." i am bill o'reiley and please always remember the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> welcome to a kelly file special. the baltimore six. tonight, new revelations in the criminal case against sick cops that touched off riots, protests and a national debate on race relations. good evening and welcome to the kelly file everyone. i'm megan kelly. this weeks marks three months since baltimore police arrested freddie gray a man they claim was a repeat small time drug dealer who was taken into custody after he ran from cops. police found a knife which they said was illegal. they loaded freddie into a police van and brought him to the station. somewhere on that ride the medical competitor has concluded freddie gray suffe