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holmquist from polk, wisconsin and served in afghanistan. then staff sergeant david wyatt from north carolina, specializing in field artillery served in afghanistan iraq, and south korea. we honor all these fallen heroes gunned down in the tragedy yesterday in tennessee. now late head over 0 shepard smith. >> comprehensive coverage of the attack in chattanooga. we're expecting a news conference in a moment. investigator are going through the shooter's computer and examining online postings for clues. we'll also tell you've what we know about the marines who died. so far from any overseas war zones. the politics of gun control is back. cries now to allow more guns and more places. but the top officer in the united states army questions whether that would cause more problems than it solves. you'll hear why. so let get too it.
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>> breaking news. "shepard smith reporting" live from the fox news deck. >> first from the deck this friday afternoon the man who opened fire at two military centers in tennessee killing four marines was carrying an ak-47 and multiple other weapons. according to the head of the house homeland security committee. fox news learned the gunman spent time in the middle east just last year, and in addition to his computer file, investigators are looking into his time overseas, searching for any clues why he carried out the attacks. a live look now in chattanooga. investigators set to give the news conference right now. we'll take you there once it actually does start. while we wait, what we foe about the gunman, mow an dual aziz, 24, been in kuwait, a passport from u.s. and jordan. he was an engineer who had nonbeen on at the fed's radar at all leading up to the shooting. details about the gunman's weapon from the chairman of the house homeland security
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committee. >> my understanding was that he was carrying an ak-47 with multiple rounds of ammunition. as we saw in tunisia an ak-47 can do an extensive amount of damage as it did yesterday. so, had not only that but multiple weapons as well. and we're going to be looking into his weapons purchases given his background. >> so far officials found no evidence that he was tied to islamic extremists in any way or that he had any connections to terror groups like isis or any others. he had almost no profile on social media. also new today the shooter spent more than a month in jordan last year. unclear how much more than an month or whether he traveled to other countries while he was aware. we're told counterterror officials are digging through his travels to see if he had any contacts with extremists. nbc news is now reporting to its audience he may have traveled to
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yemen. we don't have this. but as one u.s. official told nbc, quote jordan doesn't bother us. that's a moderate country. but yemen would be trouble. unquote. somebody claiming to be a high school friend of the shooter told the "washington post" newspaper the man traveled abroad every few years opposite every few years that he would take a month or so -- a month or two mostly during his college breaks but again officials have not yet said that the shooter had any ties to extremism. of course, as we find out more about the gunman we're also learning more about the four marines who died. among them a gunnery sergeant who received two purple hearts and the younges just 21 years old. we have team fox coverage. jennifer griffin with more on the marine and those who got hurt. first, to steve harrigan live in chattanooga. steve? >> reporter: we have been watching two things here at this crime scene. first, people just coming up, often parents with children, to see the scene. they want to explain to their children what
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has happened. also we have been seeing forensic experts work with some of the bulletholes taking measurements taking pictures. the bullet pattern, 30 round fired quickly consistent with what we heard about one automatic rifle and numerous weapons as well. as far as the visitors go, many here coming with a heavy heart and we talked to several who say they fear their could be more to come. >> people always assume, this stuff doesn't happen in small towns. this is big city stuff. houston, new york, los angeles. but by it happening here, i think with the gentleman that did this, what he was trying to do was to tell us, you're not safe. >> reporter: you get a real sense of sadness here, people have come with their children to plant flags people saying you're not safe anywhere. that's the message they're getting. >> anything more on the shooter? >> reporter: some new details on the shooter.
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he used several weapons including one automatic rifle and the real challenge for investigators will be to see how this 24-year-old described by many neighbors as an all-american boy somehow turned into a mass murderer and many neighbors say they're shocked by how things have turned out. >> him and his family, all of them, they're friendly. i don't have any issues with them. nobody ever does that i know. they're nice people. a neighbor just like anybody else. walk the neighborhood, wafer at -- wave at people, say hi. >> his home as ban searched his job in franklin has been searched. and new documents his mother filed for divorce against his father then withdrew the petition in those court papers she cite head was an abusive man, abused her physically and sexually and front of the children, also abused the children. back to you. >> steve harrigan, thank you. we're waiting for the news conference to begin. while we wait, let's bring in terry, a former deputy assistant
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districtor of the fbi's counterterrorism division. thank you. >> you're welcome, thank you. >> thoughts on how to approach this here in the second 24, hour cycle. >> well, think it's very important that we reduce our -- limit our speculation and stick to facts and walk through them. i think that we're going to find out a lot of information in the next few days, but right now this could either go in one direction, which would be our worth nightmare. the lone wolf who flies under the radar even up touched by the terrorists. in other words affected by the philosophy and self-radicalized but not any obvious connections. and then the other way is that perhaps he is a lone gunman, a lot of troubles, and a lot of anger, and all the symptoms we see connected both to the lone-wolf terrorist and lone mass killersful right now the important of all of those fbi agents is to sort through information and figure out what we have.
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>> it seems one thing we can be pretty sure of now he actually targeted two different military outposts military of some kind so maybe there's some relation there. seems to me it is important to find out whether anyone he knows has similar thoughts. in other words to try -- just in case there's someone else to find that person and fast before we start worrying about labels. >> well, you're absolutely right. one of the reasons that you saw all of those fbi agents start descending upon chattanooga yesterday after this happened, is to saturate the area, deal meetly in as fast as possible with the crime scenes, we searching his house doing neighborhood investigations and interviewing everybody and anybody in those areas and then pulling all the information together and during the day-to-day owns through late last night they were doing this with the information collected and trying to figure out if anyone else was involved in this and then as they eliminate that possibility to start
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turning their attention to all of the things we're going to get out of this and try to figure out who he was and what was driving him. >> i'm guessing where he has been. when he went to jordan, did he go elsewhere and if so, where? i would think that would be pretty high priority as well. >> absolutely, shep. where he was traveling. how long he was gone. if all of these people that have said he would leave for a month here and there if they knew anything else about where he was going, any training he might have received. but as we talked about on your show a number of years ago we are going to enter a world where domestic and international terrorism collide and we could be seeing that here or we may not, but if we are seeing it, it's really law enforcement's worst nightmare. the very kind of thing the director comey has been talking about for the last few weeks and so it's going to be very interesting to see how this develops and exactly what we have. >> it's interesting you mention that. in the same breath they said,
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these are things we should expect along the way. not that we should believe are okay but we should expect, and that one thing that is very important for us not to do is freak out on each other. because that is going cause even more problems. >> reporter: exactly. and we don't know what is going on with this, but we'll know soon enough. even if this were the worst-case scenario, we're going to have to deal with these issues and take a look at just the last few weeks, in garland texas we talked about an issue that we'll be debating more, and that is what:council triggers in people's mind who come to the attention of law enforcement when the might act. even we found in the tsarnaev brothers and garland texas the fbi was personally involved but at the time nothing had shown itself. just last week, we heard director comey talk about encryption and going dark, and now this week we're having the debate about in effect the dark reaches and depths of someone's open mind and own behavior. these are issues we're all going
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to have to come to grips with, and the best way to do this is the way people deal with terrible crime scenes and tragedies, calm, gathering the facts, stick with the facts even though it's so tempting to speculate, and then find yourself making very, very bad decisions. >> must be incredibly frustrating for law enforcement to just have no -- nothing being picked up on antennas and they're up everywhere. >> reporter: it is very frustrating, even with law enforcement we're having to come to grips with and have been for the last few year of the idea it took us 18 years to find the unibomber. he was a true loner. it took five years to find eric rudolph and eventually finally arrested bay rookie police officer in north carolina. that brings us to another point whether it it was the fugitives in new york state or other cases, we come back to the idea that we can spend billions and billions of dollars on all this
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fancy technology to listen to conversations and find people and all of these types of things. in the end it's someone who observes knows these people and observe changes in behavior, local police officers in the community. those are the people that are going to see and then help prevent these kinds of acts, and we have seen that happen a lot. it didn't happen here, but that's the kind of thing we're going to have to talk about more as well because we have to figure out how to make sure the public realizes what they see what they hear, and what they report and when, could very well stop the next major terrorist attack. >> thank you. nice to talk to you again. >> thank you shep. >> let's go to chattanooga now where the officials are walking out and the speakers are going to begin. we're hoping to learn new information on a number of fronts i'm told first we'll hear from the u.s. attorney from the eastern district of tennessee, bill killian here we go. >> thank you for coming. joined here today by the
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sheriff, mayors, the district attorney locally and other statewide homeland security officials. first of all my heartfelt condolences to the four marines who were killed yesterday. i'm joined on the stage by captain jason ballser of the united states marine corps. next to him chief brad fletcher chief of police of chattanooga police department. next toim steve jarretto, special agent in charge of the alcohol, tobacco firearmses and explosives. next to him ed reinhold, special agent in charge of the fbi for the eastern district of tennessee. i am bill killian the united states attorney for the eastern district of tennessee. we wanted to relay to you
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details, and be as transparent as we can be and what the law allows us to be. the active shooter situation is being treated as a terrorism investigation. it is being led by the fbi's joint terrorism task force and we will continue to investigate it as an act of terrorism until the proof shows otherwise. we will let the facts and the evidence lead us where it may. the department of justice the fbi, our local state and federal partners, are putting all the resources necessary toward this effort. we will not leave any stone unturned. for the victims of this heinous
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and cowardly act. i can tell you that we have one common goal, that is to protect the safety and the national security of our citizens and our people in this country. chattanooga police chief is here and he will detail some unquestionable acts of bravery and heroism exhibited by the chattanooga police department in the active-shooter situation they found themselves. steve jaredo will detail the assets and resources of atf toward the investigation and ed reinhold will detail what he can of the joint terrorism task
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force-led investigation, the resources and personnel of the fbi, and what they have dedicated to this. at that point we will answer any questions that you have if we can answer them, and i want to thank you in advance for understanding that we can't answer all questions. and are prohibited from actually answering some. first of all i want to recognize captain jason ballser with the united states marine corps. >> sir, thank you. good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. marine corps thanks the law enforcement and emergency personnel here in chattanooga for their response yesterday and to the chattanooga officials and community for their heartfelt support. we will continue to assist the federal and chattanooga authorities in their investigation. most importantly our thoughts, prayers and support are with the families of our four
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deceased marines and with the wounded servicemen and police officer. we remain committed to being par of the community and ensure balance between safety of marines and remaining accessible to the nation. thank you. my heart and the hearts of the chattanooga police department go out to the u.s. marine corps and the families of the victims. for myself, and the could go choking police department, we offer our condolences and we say semper fi. i have the drink privilege to talk to you about the bravery roof chattanooga police officers today so please indulge me. yesterday could going which police officers stood ready to place themselves between harm and the community just like they do every day. when the call came out of a gunman, police officers immediately responded and began searching for this
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cowardly and brutal person. yesterday was a breathtaking example of that everyday courage. that everyday bravery that can all too often be taken for granted. immediately after those reports of gunfire officers began searching and located the gunman driving down the highway. chattanooga police officers immediately began following and chasing that vehicle between the first and second locations. eventually officers encountered the suspect at the second location that suspect soon made his intent, his cowardly homocideal intent clear. officers of the chattanooga police department did not hesitate. they engaged that person, that gunman immediately aggressively with the sole intent of making sure he harmed as few community members as possible.
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that assailant, that gunman, struck one chattanooga police officer with gunfire. as he went down, his teammates who were responding, equally as aggressively came to his aid. they put their hands on him dragged him from under the gunfire, and bravely returned fire to ensure he was safe and the gunman remained engaged. officers continued to return fire and engage the suspect even as officers from around the city began responding. members of my executive staff rushed out of police headquarters to the scene while the incident was up folding. officer -- unfolding. officers sitting at home, threw on their uniforms, rushed out the door, came to the scene to aid their community and aid their fellow officers. as i've had a chance to talk to the officers we -- as we debrief
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them. they recount their training, their meanter toship, but most importantly their commitment to serve this community. they are all thankful for each other and the privilege to serve this community. officers stand willing to risk their own lives for others. they did the day before yesterday, they did yesterday with breathtaking clarity and do today and tomorrow. there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that chattanooga police officers prevented loss of life yesterday. chattanooga police officers proved themes in every sense of the word heroes. they are my heroes. i have never been prouder to be a police officer than i was yesterday and today. i am extremely proud to be a chattanooga police officer. today as chattanooga police officers stand ready day and night to face down evil, to
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face down violence, and to do it on behalf of theirblood chattanooga. on -- their beloved chattanooga. on behalf of them we thank you for the privilege to serve. thank you. >> good afternoon. on behalf of the men and women of atf i like to express my sincere condolences to the united states marine corps. as regarding atf as it pertains to what we have been doing along with our federal partners and cpd, atf has conducted urgent firearms traces and the results have been relayed to the investigative team. atf has provided investigative and intelligence resources to augment the investigation. several agent from thunder birmingham office, knoxville office nashville office, have responded as well as our intelligence research
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specialists are here and presence and working in a collaborative effort. so we're committed to work as a team and to be here and like the united states attorney killian said, we will bear any expense in making sure we bring this case to closure for the american people. thank you. >> good afternoon. welcome back. first on behalf of the fbi the director of the fbi and all the men and women who serve in the fbi, and our law enforcement partners i too want to extend our deepest sympathies to not only the united states marine corps and the family of those who lost their loved ones in yesterday's horrific shootings. it's difficult to find the words to express how sorry we are at your loss. now i'd like to provide you with a quick update since our last press conference late yesterday
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evening. this matter continues to be investigated as an act of terrorism by the fbi's knoxville joint terrorism task force along with the chattanooga police department, and our other federal, state and local partners. because the investigation is still in its early stages, it would be premature to speculate on exactly why the shooter did what he did. however, we are conducting a thorough investigation to determine whether this person acted alone. was inspired or directed, and we'll exhaust all efforts in determining how and why this horrible act happened. because this is an ongoing investigation, we are somewhat limited in what we can discuss but i can tell you as i speak right now person mel from the fbi, atf hsi tennessee highway patrol, could go police officers and hamilton county sheriff's deputies and other law enforcement throughout the state of tennessee and the nation are covering leads that are coming
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into our command center. some of those agents are part of our evidence response teams, who are highly trained in crime scene processing. they continue to meticulously document evidence located at the crime scene teams from knoxville, memphis and atlanta and trajectory experts from the the fbi laboratory are work on both scenes. fbi agents are partnering with state and locals to run down every lead that we have received. thus far we have covered approximately 70 leads and as our team continues to develop additional information you may see or hear about fbi activity in other areas of the state and nation. victim witness specialists from the united states attorney's office and the fbi are assisting the families of the victims. if you have any information about the alleged shooter mohammod youssef abdulazeez and we have not spoken to you please call 865-602-7582.
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no amount of information is too small or insignificant. at this time we'll open the floor to questions. please state your question loudly. i ask that you please tell me what -- where you're coming from which news agency, and lastly if the question is not for me, blows indicate who the question is for. start right over here. [inaudible question] >> i'm not going to go into specifics about what type of weapons he had. will tell you he did have at least two long guns, which would be considered rifles or shotguns, and he did have one handgun we're aware of. yes, sir. >> were the guns purchased legally? have you been able to determine if they with purchased legally? >> again we're continuing to explore those possibilities. some of the weapons were
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purchased legally and some of them may not have been. we will examine that. yes, ma'am? >> my question -- [inaudible question] >> let me clarify your statement. the question -- i need to probably repeat the question so everybody can hear. i think the question is: since it's been classified as an act of terrorism, there is any concern for others in this community? first of all we have not classified it as an act of terrorism. let me make it perfectly clear. what we have determined that we well treat it as an act of terrorism until it is determined one way or the other whether it was act of terrorism or some other type of criminal event. at this time we do not believe that anyone else is in danger in the chattanooga community. again, we continue to explore all options as far as other individuals who may or may not be involved. however, at this point we do not
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believe there's an imminent threat to anyone in the chattanooga area. yes, sir? >> tim from -- i have two questions, one -- the u.s. attorney yesterday you said -- [inaudible question] -- act of domestic terrorism. today you left that word out domestic. is there a reason for that? >> tim. well let me address that first. i think i also said yesterday don't get caught up in monikers. this is an investigation of terrorism. the investigations of terrorism are at an intense and higher level than a normal criminal investigation. and so if you investigate it as terrorism, and it ends up being a simple criminal act then you have done more extensive investigation than you needed to.
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if you investigate it as a criminal act and it becomes terrorism, you may have neglected to perform some investigation. we're investigating it at the highest level of investigation and i wouldn't get caught up in monikers about whether it's domestic international this, that. it's a terrorism investigation. [inaudible question] >> gave us a little information about what happened the second location. can you give us anymore information, not about motive or anything like that, but about what happened there? where was he confronted? when was he confronted? had he already shot people before he was confronted? those type of details. >> we are still trying to figure all of that out to be honest with you. we are just beginning to process the scene.
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we brought in a lot of special equipment in order to process it thoroughly. we have to look at trajectory. we have to look at shell casings we have to look at impact of where the rounds went. so is it our belief that shortly after he arrived he was engaged by a could go police officers. -- by could going which police officers about he was a moving target and he was able to obviously doyle four marines and injure one sailor. >> where was the suspect finally cornered in the park, outside the building, and where exactly were the marines slain, inside the facility, in the parking lot? you see the car rammed into a green fence. can you help us in that, please? >> the subject never left the confines of the military
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reserve. so he never went outside the fence once he gained entry into the facility. he was killed inside of the fenced area. all of the marines were killed within side of the fence as well and i'm not going to go further into detail exactly where they were located because that is part of the evidence we may or may not use in trial. yes, sir? [inaudible] talk below the suspect's foreign travel -- [inaudible] >> looking at any foreign travel he may have performed. we do know he has traveled outside of the united states. we have -- we are exploring all travel he has done and we have asked our intelligence partners throughout the world to provide us with any information they may have concerning his travel and/or activities while overseas. >> -- [inaudible question]
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>> i'm not going into great detail where he has traveled in an attempt not to hinder our partners overseas from being able to conduct their portion of the investigation. yes, ma'am? >> yes, -- [inaudible question] >> we have no -- the question was, if you didn't hear, did the police kill the subject or did he kill himself? all indications are that he was killed by fire from the chattanooga police officers. we have no indication that there was any self-inflicted withouts, however we will examine that to ensure that's the case. yes, sir? >> joseph. you talked about the weapon head had. can you tell us whether or not he had any body armor or protective gear on his person while he engaged the police officers? >> yes. i can tell you -- the question was, was he wearing bod armor the answer is, no, he was not wearing body armor. he was wearing what we considered a load bearing vest,
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vest he was able to carry additional magazines of ammunition while he moved around on foot. yes, ma'am? >> sally. was he -- was suspect wounded multiple times and where were the wounds? >> again, we have not completed an autopsy on the individual, so i don't want to speculate as to when and where he was hit. obviously there were sufficient injuries to him to eliminate the threat to the other service members and personnel in the area. yes? >> jeremy with the atlanta journal constitution to what extent is his use of social media, his writing on blogs something that you're looking at as part of your investigation? >> the question is, and i know it's kind of hard with thehone went in and out on me. are we exploring his use of social media?
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>> particularly his blog writing. >> we will look at every possible aspect to include his use of social media. we obviously want to know what his thoughts were and/or who else he was associating with at the time. yes, ma'am? >> a couple other things -- [inaudible] >> because of a hipaa concerns i'm not going to discuss the condition of any of the survivors at this time. >> a followup question. can you talk about how the other victims were injured in you talked about the police officer that was injured. what about the other two that survived that were injured? >> my understanding is that -- correct me imi've wrong -- they were gunshot wounds as well. >> to the other wounded? injured? >> that's our understanding. they are gunshot wounds, but until an autopsy is done that can be a little misleading.
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>> yes sir. >> david morton. how many police officers were engaged in the firefight? >> at this time we won't discuss the number of officers involved. obviously it was a massive response by the chattanooga police department, and let me reiterate the bravery that these officers demonstrated. it is is apparent by looking at the crime scene and what we have seen so far of the crime scene these officers were under a tremendous amount of gunfire from this individual and yet they continued to move forward against this target and engage him, and eliminate that threat, saving numerous lives throughout the community. >> in the back with the camera. [inaudible question] >> can you talk about the type of weapons your officers had? small arms or any of them equipped with assault weapons to attack the subject? >> absolutely. all patrol officers in chattanooga are armed with a duty weapon, a side arm which is exactly like the one i'm
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wearing right now. it is a sig sauer 45 caliber semi automatic pistol. also equipped with a patrol rifle, a 5.56-millimeter ar-15 type or comparable patrol rifle. >> in back with the camera. >> can you talk about -- the type of firefight they encountered. >> significant. it was clear that this gunman had every intent to encounter and to murder police officers if he needed to. >> agent reinhold in back with the camera. >> got a question. about two hours ago the chairman from the homeland security gave a presser at macdill air force base chris central command. during the presser he said she shooter from what he understands was inspired by isis. are you confirming this was an
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isis-inspired shooting. >> no, we're not confirming that. what we're saying is that is a possibility that we will explore, just like any other possibility, and at this time we have no indication that he was inspired by or directed by anyone other than himself. in the back with the white shirt. >> our cameras captured a woman being escorted out of the suspect's home in handcuffs. was she arrested. >> she was not arrested. the individual escorted out of the home as a matter of precaution is handcuffed. we do that whenever we make entry into a location, for officer safety. once it was determined that the scene was secure and she was not a threat, then she was unhandcuffed and taken care of. in the back with the white shirt. >> wdwn. have you found on any -- that he had contacted any foreign country? >> the question is, looking at
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his e-mails have we determined whether he contacted in foreign countries itch won't go into details what we have found or not found as far as evidence goes. that would be considered evidence. so i'm not in a position to answer that at this time. i will say we are exploring all possibilities to include any contact overseas. >> the feed dropped out for just a moment. history tells me the feed will come back. these things come digitally and if there's just the slightest breakup of any kind the signal goes down and you can't hear anymore and that's where we are. let's listen to you. >> chief? >> thank you for your concern. i'm spoken credibly to all of the officers involved in the incident. i have spoken to many of the families and i'm speaking with families of the victims. they're all doing very, very well. they have the support of the police department, the support of their city, the support of their community and what i'm learning recentry, the support
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of the entire country. we thank you very much for that. they're doing very, very well, and again i applaud their bravery. >> thank you all very much. >> thanks, everybody. that will conclude the press conference for today. this is the only press conference we have plan -- >> we learned quite a lot today. much more than we thought we were going to. i'll go through a little built of it quickly and then get to steve harrigan who is there in chattanooga and then get to jennifer griffin in the pentagon. here's what we learned today. it is premature to speculate on why he did what he did according to the fbi. you heard chairman mike maccall sag he thought the guy was isis inspired. the fbi says do not do that. there's no indication of that yet. investigators are investigating most importantly whether he acted alone and just by virtue of the fact they're investigating whether he did they can't come to a conclusion. they said hey have 70 leads and
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they're knocking all those down. great story about how fellow chattanooga police officers pulled the chattanooga police office presumably my the suspect, out of the line of fire during what was described as a gun battle. a lot of heroics. surprising in no way. they say that the fbi says that he was -- the suspect was carrying on him two long guns, meaning rifle order shotguns and, handgun. man, the description of the rest of it was interesting. he wasn't wearing body armor according to the investigators. but he was wearing a load bearing vest. and he ran into this gate with his car as the story goes, and from that moment -- that surround it. you have to have a swipe card key. he didn't get past the gate and that its when the authorities say he got out of the car and from then on he was out of a car and in a firefight with police. they believe they engamed him quickly, but dough know exactly how quickly or how many officers were involved, how would they.
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but at any rate he had a lot of back-up ammunition so he could load and then reload as necessary. two long guns and a handgun. so just from that you can surmise he was prepared for a battle here and certainly got one. in addition, they know that some of those guns -- this is a quote from the authorities -- some of the guns were purchased legally and some of those guns might not have been purchased legally. again, that is day. the most important thing today was he acting alone and did anyone else know of this. our steve harrigan on scene in chattanooga for us this afternoon. i didn't think we would get that much. >> reporter: we got a lot of new details. one phrase that was pounded over and over again by the u.s. attorney and by the fbi special agent was act of terrorism. they're making clear this is being treated as an act of terrorism. no doubt about that. the importance is this gets the highest priority in an investigation. not -- no simple crime but an
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act of terrorism. redetailed bet the chattanooga police. really moving details about how after one officer was wounded how the police continued to move forward despite coming under heavy fire, and to rescue by hand that officer. and of course, more details about the gunman himself. as you mentioned multiple weapons, two long guns, either rifles or shotguns, most likely from the bullet patterns at least one semi-automatic rifle and one handgun as well. the question wassed and whether he had body armor on. he didn't have body mayor but had a load bearing vets, carrying multiple magazines and the fbi agent said it was clear the intent was to kill as many military personnel, as many police as possible. so a remarkable scene there. a shootout in the middle of the day, and could chattanooga police saying how proud they were about their ability to move under fire. a still up answered questions.
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did he get any help? his travel records will help. did he go to jordan,ey. n neff that what they're looking for, and also his motivation. how could this 24-year-old philadelphia the suburbs playing whiffle ball, on the wrestling team, turn. some overarching mystery to the case as well. >> strikingly everybody with whom reporters have spoken, you can look aviate web site no seems to have talked to anybody who said, well, were worried about this kid. just exactly the opposite of that. >> certainly although perhaps in hindsight there are some details that could raise alarm if anyone paid attention to those blog posts where he talked about life is suffering and seizing the opportunity to serve allah. if you see the beard change, the beard growth. if you paid close attention to the records of travel. this is all in hindsight but
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certainly this is what worries people that the terrorists can be hiding in plain sight. if someone who is in your middle school, who is on your wrestling team, doesn't speak with an accent. lived here in rural tennessee all his life. how could this happen? still really baffles a lot of people how this happened. >> steve harry again for us, thank you. yesterday during our breaking news coverage during thing 5:00 eastern time hour we showed live pictures of the neighborhood where the shooter lived. the helicopter shot incorrectly identified one home as belonging to the shooter or his family. it was the wrong home and for that we are sorry. we're also learning more before the the four marines killed in the attack. we'll good live to the pentagon where jennifer griffin has brand new information on the investigation and that is next. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla apremilast. otezla is not an injection
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comfort a veteran in front of a makeshift memorial at the military recruiting center there. the vet told a local television station he escaped up for military service here and said, why would you try to hurt the people that volunteer to protect you? the people who would take a bullet for you. have images this afternoon. a man kneeling next to flowers at the same memorial, at least 33 bulletholes in the windows and doors at the recruiting center here along lee highway. local news outlets report this memorial started when a woman handed police a bouquet of flowers over at the crime scene tape. and here a man belting out song "amazing grace." mourners gathered in churches and community centers last night, and held prayer vigilled for the victims and their families. we're learning more about the victims. the governor of tennessee described what he called heroic action from the four marines. >> it's been a tragic and long
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and sad day and i think all of our hearts go out to the families of the four marines who lost their lives. in the middle of that there's been some heroic action by the marines who lost their lives and some others there at the facility who did everything they could to minimize the damage. >> all four marines died at the reserve facility. the second shooting location. jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. what more can you tell us about these four? >> reporter: their remains are on route to dover air force base where they'll be given dignified transfer koch fins wrapped in the american flag. we know the names of the in rains. thomas sullivan, lance corporation principal skip wells, sergeant carson holmquist, and staff sergeant david i wouldot. gunny sullivan, age 4 , from springfield, massachusetts-join the marines in 1997. greatgrad wait from cathedral hot, two siblings and returned from this last deployment in
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january. he and the others served in the third battalion, 14th marines and fought in the 2005 battle of abu ghraib where he earned a combat action ribbon two, purple hearts. lance corporal skip wells was the youngest, age 21. graduated from high school in marietta georgia in 2012. his mom was a single mother and drove the school bus. sergeant carson holmquist was living in jacksonville, north carolina with his wife and child. he was the transport chief. tv sergeant david wyatt live in could going which with this wife lori, and two children. >> what more can you tells about the unit. >> this was an artillery battery. the units call sign was dark horse, named after the johnny cash song. this artillery unit made history by firing more rounds than any other artillery battery since vietnam. its members were activated three times during the iraq war. in 2005, they deployed to new
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orleans to provide relief after hurricane katrina. some of the unit deployed again to iraq in 2006. they were known locally in chattanooga for their toys for tots drive every year. we have just learned from the marine corps that all four marines are entitled to full benefits since they were on active duty status which will include life insurance and $100,000 death to their next of kin. small comfort. >> the four on the screen now. jennifer griffin, thank you so much. the army's chief of staff speaking out about security at their nation residents recruiting and reserve centers and whether the soldiers should be carrying guns. that's coming up from the fox news deck.
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recruiting posts across our nation after yesterday's attack in chattanooga. that is according to the army's top officer general ray odierno but tells reporters arming troops in the centers could cause more problems than it might solve. we have an image from the scene yesterday on the door riddled with bullet. you can see a sign indicating it's a gun-free zone. lea gabrielle is here with more. >> when we see shootings on military installations the question always comes up why aren't military personnel trusted to employ weapons when their deployed but not warmed at work and home. this dod directive issued in 1992 and then re-issued in 2001 is the rope -- reason why. i mans military personnel who are not deployed and training with weapons, from carrying firearms at work, unless their duties include security or law enforcement or if there's an immediate threat to life or dod property. today a number of politicians and former marine corps colonel
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oliver north are saying the law northeasts to change. >> if you're at the white house right now sign the executive order, releasing that regulation that goes back to 1992 and say everybody in a military base with a firearm can carry it with them. >> there have been more than 20 shootings at military installses since the mid-1990s when the law went into effect. the worse mass murder at a military baseas to forthood in 2009 when major hassan. and a navy veteran shot and killed 12 people at a washington navy yard. when it comes to suggestionses that military personnel should be armed at work the army chief of staff is urging caution saying, quote, we have to be careful about overarming of uses. he is not talking about service members attacking each other but he means there are dangers southerned to having firearms around including things like accidental dischargings and says
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there are legal issues associated with recruiting spaces with these out in town recruiting bases people having weapons. >> and different rules and regulations from community to community across the country? >> of course. >> there's not been some sort of suggestion that the cops didn't get there quickly enough or that the marines did anything wrong. >> people all think -- i served in the military. people think if somebody served in the military they know how to use a firearm. i spoke with some of the people yesterday who war shot at the recruiting center. they've been in combat and know how to use weapons and the question comes up, why can't they carry weapons? of course, i've served with people and it's not -- some people are saying it's a good idea for them to be aloud to carry weapons then army chief of staff thinks bad things can happen when you give people loaded guns so take caution and follow the local laws. >> i'm sure it will be talked about a lot. thank you.
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>> as we approach the top of the hour, recap what we learned during the news conference from officials in chattanooga on the deadly shooting at two military facilities in chattanooga. the fbi's ed reinhold warps from the fbi it's premature to speculate on why the shooter did what he didment but they are investigating the attack as related to terrorism and they'll do so unless and until the evidence suggests otherwise. 70 leads according to authorities. the shooter was carrying two long guns, rifles or shotguns, and one hand guckgun he was wearing a load bearing vest and backup ammunition and emgamed authorities riot speedily. it's believed the chattanooga police a member of the chattanooga police department, killed him. not that he killed himself. and that chattanooga police officers saved one of their own who was caught in the line of fire as the shootout was ongoing. in the military has now identified the four marrones who
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were killed yesterday. so far from any conflict overseas. is there a middle east connection? today what we are learning about mohammod youssef abdulazeez. welcome everybody. this is "your world." officials investigating the shooting rampage as an act of terror. now the question, did he act alone? looking into this travel inside middle east and coming through this computer to -- to steve harrigan in chattanooga. >> new details from law enforcement officials. first the gunman himself the 24-year-old was carrying multiple weapons. police officials identifying them as two lon guns, either rifles or shotgun perhaps semi-automat
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