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wearing tactical vest and less than two weeks ago the president made a rare visit to the pentagon briefed on the campaign against isis and that meeting after repeated warnings over the fourth of july. the president addressed the threat of home grown terrorists. >> but the threat of lone wolves or small cells is complex. it's harder to detect and harder to prevent, one of the most difficult challenges that we face and preventing these attacks will require sustained effort. >> the director of the fbi announcing that in the four to six weeks leading up to july 4th the fbi arrested more than ten isis followers. and said the fbi could not stop them all. >> we are stopping these things so far through tremendous hard work.

it is incredibly difficult. i cannot see me stopping these indefinitely. >> a lot of motivation is still unclear. the threat from lone wolf terrorists is not. it pre-dates isis and may be growing. since rise of islamic state more than 60 individuals in 19 states have been arrested. congressman michael mccall, chairman of the house homeland security committee says the enemy is different and new. >> this is not bin laden. this is what the new threat of terrorism looks like. it comes from the internet. they don't have to travel to syria or iraq. they are already here. >> the contact matters. we take a closer look at threat of lone wolf terrorists. there have been more than 50 domestic terror attacks and that is nearly one every 50 days. a growing number are making headlines starting back in 2009.

>> at this time the numbers that we are looking at are 12 dead and 31 wounded. >> we remember that november in 2009 ford hood texas major nidal hasan opening fire in the end killed 13 people. he was communicating with a terrorist master rer mind anwar al awlaki. we remember april 2013 boston tsarnaev brothers one u.s. citizen, one not blowing up pressure cookers at the crowded finish line killing three people and injuring nearly 300. >> he got to you and what happened next? >> he started slicing my neck. >> and that's megyn kelly speaking to the survivor of an attempted beheading in moore, oklahoma september last year. an ex-condisplaying obsession

with islam. >> get back. go in the building. >> and this june garland, texas, two heavily armed men storming an event. one brave police officer stopped them. that brings us to today. our chief intelligence correspondent is live in washington with the latest. >> reporter: the investigation is expanding on two fronts. first dozens of tips are pouring in with the lead fbi investigator on the scene indicating law enforcement could take action locally and in other states. while no one else is publically tied to mohammad youssuf abdulazeez's plot the press conference this afternoon suggested investigators are exploring whether others could be in play. >> we have covered approximately 70 leads and as our team continues to develop additional information you may see or hear about fbi activity in other

areas of the state and nation. >> fox news confirming counter terrorism investigators are scrutinizing the shooting suspects travelled into middle east last year including one trip to jordan and reportedly a possible trip to yemen. significantly investigators are reaching out to foreign intelligence agencies tonight just as they did after the boston bombing in 2013 to flesh out the travel history and network of contacts. >> we are exploring all travel he has done and asked our intelligence partners to provide us with any information they may have concerning his travel and/or activities while overseas. >> also tonight we are learning more about the weapons that abdulazeez had an ak-47 and the fbi says two long guns a handgun and a load bearing vest for multiple rounds of ammunition. >> thank you very much.

yesterday's attack in chattanooga highlights the danger of what some refer to as self radicalization. a former danish gangster turned to radical islam and e joining al qaeda before becoming a cia informant. we are joined by brad thor. it's great to have you both on the program. brad we heard a lot of sound from a lot of different leaders of our country. we hear the same sort of tone. we can't stop them all when it comes to the lone wolf. why not? >> first of all, i'm not a big fan of the term lone wolf. how many lone wolves does it take to make a pack? there were the two tsarnaev brothers these guys are not self radicalizing. the internet is a global community. they are finding like minded people out there who are encouraging them to go to this fundamentalest interpretation of islam.

this nation is not able to counter that threat unless we are ready to counter the ideology. >> how do we do that? >> we have to find what websites they are getting information from and they have to be tracked. it is very difficult when you say that it's lone wolf there aren't many people because they know people are watching them. they would like to get the information by themselves secretly and be able to carry out the attack for the possibilities of being successful. >> and so that brings up what james comey said if they are in their basements then there is no way to know where they are and when they are going to strike next. that sets ups up for failure. how do we get him? >> comey is right.

what happened in chattanooga this man's family may not have known that he intended to do this. that was not necessarily preventable. we need to combat that ideology. i find it almost comical that the administration wants to use the term lone wolf when they know that isis has told these guys don't go online don't coordinate with other people think globally but act locally. al qaeda sympathizers get busts all the time because they look for help on the internet. isis is moving them to encrypted apps for phones and chat rooms saying keep it quiet, blend in. try not to look muslim. don't grow your beard long. isis is extremely sophisticated and these attacks will continue and we will see a lot more of them until we take the fight directly to isis and start killing as many as possible. >> that is the big question. one of the other things we

continue to hear is this is a new enemy. we never faced this enemy before. you actually joined al qaeda. you know the enemy from the instd. how do we get more aggressive? >> well it seems like they are getting more organized and more sophisticated with media propaganda. it is something that did not exist during my time. that is something that encourage the people and seeing the creating that islamic state. we do not have that in the time of when i used to operate as a double agent. it's coming now and it's there to stay if we don't find it. it encourages other people to join them. >> that brings us back to the ideology that you have to go after the ideology. this is one of numerous conversations that we have had on this topic, so many years of talking about the ideology that fuels the attacks.

what is the ideology that drives them and how do we counter it? >> let's stop saying these guys misunderstand islam. this is an engineering degree. we have seen high levels of sophistication so let's stop playing the game that they don't understand. this is a fundamentalest interpretation. if mohammed passed out trophies guys in isis would be at the top of the podium. we need good moderate muslims. instead of chasing people like the tea party let's have an agency devoted to combatting fundamentalest islamic ideology. >> do we need another agency? >> you ask your husband we should be putting money into combatting this because this terror will be with us for generations. if we don't stick it to them they are going to stick it to us. >> plenty people say we don't need another agency and need to

let the guys take care of business. >> somebody has to work on the good muslims to help us. >> great to have you both. thank you very much. important conversation. much more on this. there is also angry fallout today after presidential candidate bobby jindal suggest liberals share blame for what happened in tennessee. >> you do hear candidates showing that they can act in a moment like this except bobby jindal who used the moment to attack president obama. at ally bank no branches equals great

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this week's lone wolf attack brought the issue of domestic terror to the forefront of the 2016 election. among them louisiana governor bobby jindal said this the shooting under scores the reality of the threat posed to us by radical islamic terrorism every day. it's time for the white house to wake up and tell the truth. this is grotesque. you cannot defeat evil until you admit that it exists. people didn't like that. critics wasted no time jumping

on the republican contender. >> why would bobby jindal make such a stride at a time like this? politics what is the political calculation? bobby jindal is fighting to get in one of the ten spots in the republican presidential debate. >> i think for him to distinguish himself i think he has in a way that is unpresidential. i think he is making a play for religious bigotry as an attempt to get to that. >> joining me now governor of louisiana bobby jindal. you heard the critics, politically calculated. why do you believe they are wrong? >> the left always goes crazy whenever we tell the truth. the reality is we need a president who will stop being politicalally correct. after the fort hood shooting to this day the obama administration calls it work place violence. this is evil. we need a president who will say

this. not only does islam have a problem he needs to say to muslim leaders they have to do more than condemn acts of violence. they need to condemn individual murderers. we have to get serious about this. we have to hunt them down and kill them. he went to the pentagon and said this is a generational conflict and we will win by changing hearts and minds. the same when they announced cut of 40,000 troops. if they said we are going to win world war ii through propaganda we are not going to win this war with words and propaganda. we have to win this war with guns. woo e >> let's talk solutions. one of the things at the beginning of the show it has been very confusing to define the ideology that drives the terrorism. what drives the ideology and how do you combat it?

>> well in terms of practically one of the things the president can do today he talks about the power of the pen and the phone. he can go out today and allow our military recollect men and women to be armed. it is ridiculous to require them to be in gun free zones. let them protect themselves. >> that doesn't take care of the ideology being so difficult to articulate. just getting weapons to the military installations doesn't solve the fundamental issue. >> you are right. the fundamental problem is we are dealing with evil and radical islam and individuals who don't want others to have the same freedoms they demand for themselves and don't accept religious liberty. you are talking about terrorists who are murdering, raping beheading across the middle east including christians. they are not content to that overseas. they want to do that here in america. we have to kill them over there.

this president talks about containing them. we need to hunt them down and kill them. we need to take political handcuffs off pentagon and say we want to defeat and wipe out this enemy. >> the department of homeland security had something to say in may about his strategy to combatting terror. i want to get your thoughts on it. let's play this down. >> it has to come from within the community and from the islamic leaders who frankly can talk the language better than the federal government can. >> secretary johnson says those out there can do this better than federal government. is that part of your solution your plan? >> absolutely. that's not instead of the military force. that's what we are not going to win this with guns. as commander in chief if he will say directly to muslim leaders

islam has a problem. he won't say the words radical islamic terrorism. he is afraid of offending everybody. the commander in chief can say they have an obligation to denounce the murders. until they do that and make clear that within islam it is not acceptable for murders to feel like martyrs and they are not going to award in the after life i think the commander in chief can put pressure on clerics and others to specifically denounce not generic acts of violence. >> nice to have you in the program. thank you. >> thank you. governor jindal thinks liberals may share some of the blame others are focusing on the role the muslim community has. two leading muslim voices join us next. >> we will continue to investigate it as an act of terrorism until the proof shows

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not only does islam have a problem he needs to say to muslim leaders they have to do more than condemn generic acts of violence. they need to condemn murderers. >> that is governor bobby jindal suggesting to "the kelly file" that people need to start telling the truth about islam. and while no direct link at this time has been established between this shooter and islamic extremists directly one d.c. based imam admits it will probably be he has done this in the name of some radical islam group and that puts tremendous amount of pressure on the community. author of in the land of invisible women. and national spokesperson for

the muslim community usa. let's continue to talk about solutions. what concrete measures can be taken within the muslim community to prevent violence being waged in the name of islam? >> i think it is a time for muslims to respond by one of our fundamental duties to society. muslims have duty to them maker and their society. this is a role for leadership and individual muslims in america. we have to participate in exposing these extreme behaviors which i term islamism. they are not islam but hiding amongest us and being veiled by us. it's not a matter only for the leadership. we know from parents whose children have become radicalized. american muslim parents have

been hearing. this is a role for all muslims to be aware and inform and relate to authority. we also need a tremendous expansion on surveillance of places where muslims gather. >> i'm curious what you think about that. what do you think is part of the solution? >> well [ inaudible ] we have established ourselves in over 200 countries world wide through peace, dialogue and service and humanity. the bottom line is that leadership matters. we have demonstrated how by engaging in service to humanity we combat all forms of radicalization. radicalization is not an islam issue. >> do you think the same thing? do you think it's the same

thing? >> my point is that radicalization is a human issue. the way to combat is to stand united against all forms of extremism. throughout our 125-year history we have tens of millions of members and not a single act of terrorism even once. religious differences aside this is a model we learn from. >> is islam being unfairly blamed for this? >> i would say that is true but i would contest that we cannot rely only on muslim leadership. we have specific roles to play whether that is in our community, whether we are mentors in school whether we lobby our politicians in power, authorities in this country to shed political correctness and it examines. these acts are what can be called radical islam.

they are not my faith but are emerging from within the muslim community. there is no escaping that now. we have to really expose this problem and it will be unpleasant. it will be difficult. >> how doo you do what you are saying? >> one of the methods is encouraging people in authority to not shy away from actually all of the factors that lead to radicalization which could be violent or nonviolent. islamism is an ideology from 20th century egypt. many muslims, young, privileged poor muslims here in the united states are sdused into believing this is a faith. we are combatting an ideology. >> going back to your point saying there are thousands, millions of muslims that do not turn to violence what advice

would you give our leaders in this specific country to deal with radicalization within specific community that it is happening? >> i think ultimately we agree that this is combatting ideology of extremism. rather than giving hypothetical solution what i'm offering you is the world's single largest united under one imam and under his leadership following his example showing how together we cannot only train our youth to reject all forms of extremism but become active members of community. we don't have to have surveillance on every individual human being. we need to work on giving our youth an identity and ownership of serving. this is across 200 nations we combatted radicalism successfully. >> the record you suggest is

successful. those numbers are true which we have no reason to doubt then we look forward to having you back to talk about what is working within your community because obviously it is. and this particular instance. it is nice to have you both on. thank you very much. coming up the white house weighs in on thursday's tragedy in tennessee. what the president said and also importantly what he didn't. >> i know that the fbi made clear yesterday that they are looking at a variety of possible motives including the possibility of domestic terrorism. put your hand over your heart. is it beating? good! then my nutrition heart health mix is for you. it's a wholesome blend of peanuts, pecans and other delicious nuts specially mixed for people with hearts. planters. nutrition starts with nut.

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people cars boats, big rigs. people were told to get out of their cars and run for their lives. the freeway fire is now mostly out but 100 or so vehicles are burned and abandoned and will take hours to reopen the southbound lanes. two of the northbound lanes have reopened but traffic is backed up for 20 miles. no serious injuries but thousands appear to be stranded. the fire has gone from 500 acres to 3,500 acres in two hours. the very definition of spreading like wildfire. five homes have burned. mandatory evacuations are underway. high winds, hot temperatures, updates throughout the night. i just received a briefing from fbi director comey as well as my white house team about the shooting in chattanooga today.

we don't know yet all of the details. we know what appears to be a lone gunman carried out the attacks. >> president obama commenting on shootings in tennessee. it's what the president hasn't said that has some critics questioning whether the administration is taking a strong enough position on lone wolf attacks at home. joining me now fox news contributor and national syndicated radio host fowler. you have issues on how the president spoke the other day. >> he didn't call it terrorism. to this day he still has not called this an act of terror. today in chattanooga the u.s. attorney said i'm going to read you, the situation is being treated as a terrorist investigation, being led by fbi's joint terrorism act force and will continue to investigate as an act of terrorism. why can't president obama say that? >> let's ask richard. >> what gives? why not?

>> here is the thing and this is where i disagree. i think the fbi is treating it as an act of terror and investigating as act of terror. what is the difference if the president says act of terror or not? >> what difference does it make? somebody said it in government president who caress? >> president's words don't matter? this is a part of a pattern. the fort hood shooting was work place violence. christmas day bomber was isolated extremist. isis is the j.v. team. this president cannot bring himself to identify terrorism as terrorism. >> richard, let me ask you about the leadership part of it. anybody can say it. when the president says it it means something especially if it is a terrorist attack on our soil. why not? anybody can say it. why not the president? >> when you think of severity of terrorist attacks you see what

happened in 9/11 that was a terrorist attack and our country responded appropriately. these lone wolf attacks are awful and we have to restrict them. here lies the problem. i think you can talk about the president's words all you want. i want to talk about actions. since he has been president drone attacks have killed 2,400 terrorists and killed osama bin laden. >> we are talking about an attack that happened here. >> it is all radical islam. >> if the president is willing to call that terror overseas why not call this terror? >> this is what matters. i agree that actions matter. >> where are the actions? >> i agree that actions matter. the president's actions don't match his words. we have been talking about gun free zones. for our troops on the ground

iraq is a gun free zone. they are -- >> let's talk about solutions. we have been confronting terrorism on our soil we can look at the past and wonder how it is setting precedent. we have this issue neither side has come up with a solution. that is pretty frusitating for the american people. where are the new ideas on this? let's leave the president aside. where are the new ideas? >> i think that's a good question. i think that's a question for our congress and leadership. where are the new ideas. what we can say is since 9/11 we have not seen such a terrorist attack on this country on the soil everything to do with george bush putting steps in place and barack obama following a lot of those steps including drone warfare. i think as a country we have to find a way to deal with it. we have to find a way to deal with radical islam. calling it terrorism doesn't necessarily solve the problem. >> you know that words matter.

mark you know it too. it seems bad and i'm coming on the air as a critic of media, as well. we get on the air and really sad about this and heart broken if the loss. we are heart felt. there is very little allowance to be angry, enraged and bring the fight to the enemy, to really go after the problem from any leadership. where is the leadership on it? >> you're right. we have to go after this. the problem with it you cannot defend in all places against every possible technique. the only way to stop them -- >> we are the united states of america setting ourselves up for failure. we should just all go home. >> let me tell you what the solution is. the way you stop them here is by defeating them over there. the problem is we are not defeating them over there right now. we have been bombing isis in iraq for months and they are not only -- they are advancing. they appear to be strong. >> we have seen an increase in

lone wolf attacks after destabilization of iraq. that's the truth. isis was created because of government -- >> it was u.s. withdrawal from iraq. >> we can't even agree about what actually is the cause of the issue. guys i don't know. >> the way you turn off the spigot is by taking away their caliphate. there will not be so many lone wolf terrorists. >> and dependency on foreign oil. >> richard, mark great to have you both. thank you. >> thanks. deadly tennessee terrorist attack is the latest lone wolf attack on american soil. the terrorism analyst will weigh in on whether this is the new normal for america.

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if it can happen in chattanooga, tennessee it can happen anywhere and the stats prove this. over the last year we have had over 60 isis-related arrests in the united states. that's more than one isis follower arrested in this country more than one per week. >> representative michael mccaul

commenting. the lone wolf attack is now prompting new questions about our security at home and whether this is the new normal in america. and if america can be compared to israel. a terrorism analyst and former member of israel's counter terrorism unit. it's nice to have you both. what can we learn from israel? >> well i think what we can learn from israel is that the most important thing is to look at the threat for what it really is and we have learned that when it comes to terrorism you have to constantly be changing your security. there is no right or wrong way to do it. it's an organic approach to total safety or what you are going for. in this case i think the israeli lesson is isis is a master of

branding. they are using the internet to say when a celebrity would use the internet to create a brand which enables the internet to become an extremely efficient recruiting tool. you don't need to go through turkey to get training. we now have millions of potential followers who can go get a weapon and open fire. the second lesson would be making sure that our military has the appropriate safe guards in place whether it means arming them and making sure they are trained when they are not overseas operating-making sure they have the ability. >> that's what we are hearing from lawmakers that we can expect something next week on whether that policy would change and hearing from other leaders, as well as to whether or not this policy is not allowing a military men and women to be armed is the right one. here is the broader question.

we either turn our conversation about gun reform which means we carry more weapons or less weapons or religious reform where we focus on ideology. what do you think is the most important? what should be the priority? >> first of all, let's keep the threat in perspective. in contemporary conflict the adversaries we confront make no distinction between the front line and homefront, no distinction between combatants and noncombatants therefore everything is a potential target. we have been largely successful in this country in dealing with that out of more than 50 jihaddest terrorist plots since 9/11 the authorities have uncovered and thwarted all but a handful. as a consequence of that we are looking after chattanooga at more than 20 deaths over this 14 15 year period.

all of those related to the conflict that we are in but that is a good success story. >> you bring up a fair point. in your opinion is the status quo, is the current policy good enough? >> the status quo is never going to be appropriate. we are dealing with a dynamic situation. the threat is constantly evolving. as the gentleman says our tactics have to evolve with that. so status quo is a way of losing. >> let me ask you -- when you walk around israel you see carrying weapons around the street and you understand that as someone that is in israel you feel that they know that they are targets. you don't feel paranoid walking around the streets. you don't feel that way. you actually feel very safe.

how do we establish that in the united states? is the priority making sure our military men and women have weapons? could that be number one or do we look for a different priority? >> those are excellent points. the reason why soldiers are afforded the privilege of carrying weapons is because it acts as a deterrent. i think the most important thing is to really just call these lone wolves what it is. they are isis. this is the tactic. the internet twitter, instagram, facebook the same way it works for everyone else is working for isis. two, if we can allow our soldiers to carry arms and operate going after america's enemies overseas they are more than capable of being armed while in uniform here in this country. i don't think it means reforming gun laws but tying department of defense into local counties and states and making sure training for active shooter.

very specific training at the base. that was active shooter who went to a specific place for a specific reason to kill a specific person. that was a military target. active shooter training. >> understood. >> and let's get the weapons in there. it's not a big deal. >> to your point our military received some of the best weapons training in the world. we'll see if we get movement. we'll have to leave it there. great to have you both. thank you. this is not the first time a recruiting center has come under attack. there are more than 100 others out there with no security to speak of or very little. that's part of our next story. ♪ here at fidelity we give you the most free research reports, customizable charts,

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why somebody would take innocent lives for no reason, regardless whatever his motive is. regardless if it was a religious belief of some sort taking a life you know you got -- you don't have a heart when you do something like that. >> that was a long time friend of one of the four marines that died defending their country on thursday. sadly on their own soil and while their families and friends mourn the loss of the men, we're learning more about the lives they led and why they were unable to defend themselves. jennifer griffin has more. >> jenna, they were all members of mike battery third battalion 14th marines. a legendary artillery unit. lance corporal wells, staff sergeant david wyatt and

sergeant carson home quist. wells was the kwungyoungest. he graduated high school in 2012. his mom was a single mother and drove the school bus. he played the clarinet in the marching band and was a member of the orchestra at his church. he arrived on sunday for a two week reserve assignment. the last text he sent was active shooter. home quist was the battery motor transport chief. he returned from a tour in afghanistan last july. staff sergeant wyatt lived in tennessee not far from the shooter's home with his wife and their two children. he served in iraq and afghanistan. gunny sullivan was 40 from springfield, massachusetts. he graduated from cathedral high school he had two siblings and returned from his last

deployment in january. he fought in the 2005 battle of abu gra i b. he received two purple hearts. the muarines were not killed in the recruiting center which is a no gun center. quote, we have to be careful about overarming ourselves. things like accidental discharges and everything else that goes along with having weapons that are loaded that can cause injuries. defense secretary ash carter ordered enhanced protection in the wake of the shooting and has asked for recommendations from his service chiefs about how to protect service members by the end of next week. late today, oklahoma governor mary fallen authorized fulltime members to arm themselves at military installations in her state. the navy has 123 of these

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