you're going back. and i sensed it when i was on a trip and came back and called my friends together i said i guess we got to do this they, a lot of people, the doubters, you hadn't been in politics for 10 years a decade. you haven't run statewide. we haven't defeated incull bent in 36 years in ohio. incumbents don't lose. we put together a vision. we put together a team. they said it couldn't be done and we proved them wrong again. [cheers and applause] the then we took over the reins. but you know we didn't go unprepared. we knew what we wanted to do because i'm going to tell you. i'm president. i know what we need to do, okay? there is no confusion about that i know what needs to be done. i have been there at all levels, okay? we came in here eight billion

dollars in the hole a loss of 359,000 jobs 89 cents in the rainy day fund. one guy gave them a dollar just to double the rain any day fund. a lot of hopelessness here, particularly among the poor minorities. people said maybe ohio is best days were behind them. i said that was bunch of baloney and we'll get the budget balance and we'll cut taxes. are you kidding me? there is no way you can do that. we went to work. just use a 21st century policy. let mom and dad stay in their own home where they will be

happier and healthier and if we have to knock down the special interest then so be it. that is what we did. [applause] >> four and a half years later, $2 billion surplus and loss of 350,000 jobs and gain of 350,000 jobs and tax cuts of $5 billion. the largest in the country. [applause] >> and as i hope you all know economic growth is not an end to itself. if you are drug addicted, we will try to rehab you and get you on your feet. if you are mentally ill, prison is no place for you. some treatment and help is where

you need to be. you are the working poor so we will give you an opportunity to take a pay raise and not bang you over to head to get ahead. if you have an autistic son or daughter, for most you can get insurance and we will work to make sure all of them have it. for the developmental disabled they are made in god's image and have a right to rise and be successful. [applause] >> and with all of this they said it could not be done and guess what? we proved them wrong again. and i am going to take what we have learned here in the heartland a band of brothers and sisters i work with every day, and we have going to take the lessons of the heart land

and straighten out washington, d.c. [applause] >> well you know now they are going to say we got a lot back here and they will say, nice guy or good guy or whatever they are going to say, i don't know if he can win. but with you, and you sweetheart sweetheart can you paint signs and with all of you together we will prove them wrong again, won't we? we will prove them wrong again! [applause]

>> we will restore common sense. mary taylor has the common sense initiative. get rid of those stupid rules. how about putting people in politics that understand job creators and don't beat them down? make america stronger militarily. but folks, here is the thing i want to say and i said this at my inaugural. some people think they don't matter in this. you know how wrong that is? we got this holocaust memorial and there is a line etched that says if you save one life you

changed the world. do you believe that? do you believe that? you save one life you change the world. [applause] >> and the lord will record what you have done for another in the book of life. but we have got values we need to think about that can bring us together. folks we are a divided country but we can fix it. i tell you what i think some of them are. personal responsibility. the dog ate my homework ran out in the fifth grade. here is the thing. we own our lives. if you are hurting we will help you. my mother used to say it is a sin not to help somebody who needs help but equally a sin to

continue to help somebody who needs to help themselves. personal responsibility needs to be restored in our country. everybody doesn't get a trophy just for showing up. resilience. resilience is getting knocked down. and i have been knocked down so many times. getting knocked down is not the problem. it is refusing to get up. we need to teach our kids and children about resilience

. empathy is so important. put yourselves in the shoes of another person. we are so quick to make judgments in our country today. don't walk so fast. yesterday yesterday, i saw a woman who was walking and she had not been dealt the best hand in life. we want to hold them accountable but the lord wants our heart to reach out to those who don't

have what we have. and then team work. tom is up here. one time he used to run the veterans. man goes in the military, beaten all of the time in a tiny cell he comes home and i put him in charge of the veterans. this was the beautiful ark of what is right. tom had a little code.

the building block of america and our culture. let's recognize it. and of course faith. and faith is real simple. it is about the dos not about the don'ts. and what it is really about is god didn't put us on this earth to just take care of ourselves but make it better. some are going to try to divide us. i don't way attention to that non-sense. at the end of the day, it is about being together because you know it says we the people.

we do our part if we have courage and intelligence. but it is all of us in the neighborhoods in the families, across the country, we are the strength and glue. you go to bed and say prayers

for your family and neighbors and for our nation. and folks, as it has been said many times the lights of the city on a hill cannot be hidden. the lights of a city on a hill cannot be hidden. america is that city and you are that light. god bless you and god bless america. thank you all very much. [applause] >> history shows no republican has been elected to the white house without winning ohio. this is "outnumbered."

i am harris faulkner andrea tantaros is here sandra smith, and rachel campops duffy is back and tony sayegh is here and you are outnumbered. good to see you. >> great to be back with good friends. >> a good political day. absolutely. as we just showed you ohio governor john kasich is announcing his run for the white house. minutes ago the former governor from a key swing state highlighting his long career in public office. the governor joins one of the most crowded fields in decades. bret baier is standing by to help break this down. >> this was a speech that focused on optimism and looking at the horizon. it was not off a tell prompter.

john kasich is poplar in ohio but how poplar he is overall is the test. he has been somebody who has pushed up against his party on a number of things; accepting medicare in ohio common core fracking and he said his party is his vehicle not his master. the question will be whether john kasich can turn conservative credentials into a top show. the introduction by former new hampshire senator who is his campaign chairman on the ground

in a granite state and you heard him mention john in that speech. >> i am following members of past presidential candidate's family and abby huntsman tweeted out roll out reminds me of my dad's same team and strategy and timing, hope it goes better for him. >> it doesn't look the same. it is a lot of the same people. three senior huntsman policy advisors are running the campaign. he ran on the campaign that pushed back against the community. kasich is in a similar space but may have a different approach and tact. he is speaking to the son of a post man he is kind of saying we need to be all things for all

people and whether he can make it stick is the question. >> bret, it is andrea, i thought this was a very good speech. there is no question the man has skills. even though he has been a career politician he doesn't sound like one. he is different. you do this for the living. handicap this. the infrastructure the money does he have it? or is he running for a vp slot? >> no i think he wants the top spot. super pacs are the new things that can get a candidate through an early stage. his super pac came out with $11 million. not huge but enough to let him compete. his campaign is running seven-figure ads.

>> we are remarking about how july 2015 should be considered later than normal when we are a year away. things are changing and the debate is coming up. bret baier dipping in on "outnumbered" and we thank you. one of the things i heard you and andrea talking about was his compassionate conservative behavior. and i want to go to you, andrea, on how big of the audience of those impoverished and those un unemployed, who is he talking to? >> a report showing one in five children are living in poverty. 22% and that is up from 18% in 2008. that is a rapidly growing number and he seemed to be specifically addressing that.

he served his life in the public sector but spent a number of years in the private sector working at lehman brothers. he has been a harsh critic of wall street while at the same time identifying it is necessary and serves a necessary promise in the economy. he pointed out there is too much greed. he mastered that and tony i would recognize he would put a big emphasis on the economy. something his gop contenders have been criticized for not focusing on the economy. >> if you look at the record as governor of ohio and chairman of the budget committee and he is the last chairman to present a balanced budget. when you talk about tax cuts and budget budgets that is the strong

story. but he is relateable and likable and talks about the blue coller story and talks about america is the country we give your kids something we don't have. when you think about the fact that today according to the latest ap poll, 39% of americans say hillary clinton isn't concerned about people like them and you get this guy out there that is a great story to come. >> rachel after the break. we will move on a little bit now. an emotion day on capitol hill. the father of a woman killed on the san francisco waterfront pier testified about the policy that protected the man accused of gunning down his daughter. whether his emotional words will lead to changes in the law we will have to see. and donald trump holding a live rally right now in south carolina as he is facing that continued firestorm over this comments about senator mccain's

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a lot of people are talking about this. president obama moments ago ordering the white house flags to be flown at half staff to honor the chattanooga victims. this is after speaker boehner did the same thing on capitol hill. questions remain on why the president took so long to do this. to put it into context, after the washington naval yard and other terrible tragedies like this it did take five or six days but the national conversation has been hot on this at least since saturday. it happened and the proclamation is out and this will happen on all public buildings and

happening in the center of your screen. let's watch it together. the flag being lowered now for the five servicemen who were lost in tennessee in those shootings last week. according the proclamation at all naval stations and all naval vessels of the federal government all public buildings and grounds in the district of columbia and throughout the united states and its territory according to the white house press release. let's come out to the couch and talk about it. andrea, you and i were talking about the national conversation going on about flags in general and the white house being lit up and so on. on social media you put a tweet and people were responding in minutes with why isn't the flag lowered there? arkansas, massachusetts, joined tennessee and their governors in lowering the flags.

>> over the weekend people were upset. the empire state building was illuminated for ramadan and this is days after marines were gunned down. and within the gay marriage ruling within hours the white house was lit up with the rainbow. why couldn't they light up the white house? why do they have to be pushed and shoved and forced to do this? this should have been a natural reaction. we waited for president obama to react about the killing in benghazi. we waited for him to come out and talk about other scandals like the irs. why is it waiting for the white house to do the right thing. this should have happened immediately and speaks to bigger problem with the white house.

they don't understand the meaning and message and tone and tenor of the electorate. >> 2013 washington navy yard shooting five days. boston bombing five days. newtown shooting five days. i don't know this is outside of the bounds of the date but the conversation in the country was different. >> you don't want to talk away from the fact it is happening four marines are dead and one sailor is dead. the majority leader and the house speaker called for this. reaction on twitter if i were to give a general reaction from twitter it is about time. >> sorry josh ernest couldn't answer yesterday at the white house briefing what the president intended to do with

the flags. clearly to andrea's point they were pushed into this and this is where you have the open question about where the president's heart lies when it comes to combatting terror and vets and things mostly middle americans care about. they seem ready to throw the country under the bus but when it comes to things he can rally and unify the nation around he takes the decisive road and that is bothersome from a guy that could have helped heal wounds. >> i think he is a smart guy and i think this is passive aggressive. the military feels that way. if you are on social media the military already feels like he has contempt for them. we have the lowest troop level since world war ii and he is cutting the budget. i think it says a lot we even have the question. >> as sandra pointed out you are

seeing it happen here. we don't want to lose sight of the fact the flags have been lowered. but when you look at the tone of people hitting back a couple days ago about the issue it was about hurt. and in fact it was about shame in some of them. like how could we let this happen? we have a short memory when the comes to how we treat veterans in the country. we look back at the va scandal. >> these are no-brin hfno-briners. it is a no-brainer to lower the flag. this has to do with military members. lowering a flag is a no-brainer and he misses the no brainer but we saw him spring into action. when there was an nba player

coming out of the closet as gay the president speed dialled that player. he can jump is in the situations when we wants to but he choses not to. >> this sends a message about how we value our military for our enemies. >> to make it clear, they are still investigating what happened in tennessee but there has never been any other narrative coming from the fbi or anyone else they are looking at this as possible terrorism just to dove tail what andrea was saying. let's remember the victims now. four marines and one sailor victims of this horrible shooting. flags lowered at the white house and all public buildings. stay with us.

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you are looking at live pictures of donald trump speaking in south carolina right now. he had yet more to say about john mccain. listen in. >> this is why i am angry at john mccain. two reasons. he is totally about open borders and all of this stuff. when i went to arizona, he called the 15,000 unbelievable people, unbelievable -- i know crazies, i know crazies -- these were unbelievable american people. and john mccain, who i supported for president and i think raised him over a million and he lost. i don't hold that against him. he called the people crazies. >> donald trump said he called these people's crazies. >> but you don't insult him being a hero. many republicans disagree on

with mccain on immigration reform. but he changed the conversation to a personal attack. and i do think he is getting a lot of attention from people and winning the marketing exercise that is rolling yourself out. but whether or not he is going to be credible in the long run is going to be turned on things like this. you will not win the new hampshire primary telling people why you are angry at hillary clinton. can he make the transition from being the guy inside the tent firing among us and firing at the true opponents of the race which is the obama agenda and secretary clinton. this is why you have people frustrated at taking the conversation. this is totally the wrong direction. >> he did say something offensive about john mccain and he had multiple opportunities to say he was sorry. this is a guy who is never wrong. this is a guy who can't say i am

sorry. i am sorry but you can see what it must be like to be married. this is why he has four wives. no amount of money shoes or houses would make me want to be married to someone like this. and i think america will fire him. it is too much. >> it is bill o'reilly who gave him the opportunity to apologize last night. this is what he said: >> i am going to say i have respect for senator mccain i used to like him and supported him and raised money for the campaign against president obama and certainly if there was a misunderstanding i would take it back. but hopefully i said it correctly and shortly there after i certainly said it correctly. >> he looked back at what he said and said there shouldn't be any misunderstanding here. i am not apologizing. >> by the way, his wife looks

con contempt so he is doing pretty well. you will not get an apology from trump. i don't understand why someone as skilled as donald trump would be fueling the story and fighting with john mccain. why are you fighting with john mccain >> a skilled mccain? >> he said he is going to champion for the message for veterans. >> he is talking about john mccain. get off mccain. he is not running and you are running in a republican primary. to keep this story alive is fighting with the wrong person. >> i feel like there had to be a calculated reason to say such a thing. >> i don't think it was any more calculated than anything else he does. he sees this as an extension to the illegal immigration

conversation he thinks he is having. i will say if you watch the bill o'reilly interview he didn't just open the door to apologize but he put the words out there saying you do think senator mccain was a hero? fill in the blank. i said i will speed it up for you. >> i think bill o'reilly did more solid at the end saying donald i know you think john mccain is a hero. what frustrates me is seeing the paralysis trump is causing among other republicans. why are we still talking about donald trump? that is a failure on the of the other prime candidates. scott walker is being talked about but i want to see jeb bush mark rubio, and scott walker and others giving the media something to cover. >> they don't control the media. a lot of them cannot because they have supported immigration

that is questionable. if donald trump wants to fire at a target he will go off with republicans who have vulnerable messages on immigration. my other question is why are these members running for president not doing something about immigration reform? they control the senate and house. why did we spend so much time focusing on the primary? >> we have more than 300 sanctuary cities. in 1985 diane feinstein put that in place for her city of san francisco and you saw city after city rolling out legislation that was similar. why wasn't the conversation happening then? >> you have to give credit for bringing light to the situation.

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as we come back, i want to put a fine point on something as we drill down the facts. sometimes when we clarify something it makes the situation better not so in this case. in how long it took the white house to lower the flags at the white house and to put forth a

proclamation to do that on military basis i said in each instance we were given from the brain room the washington navy yard and boston bombing, they waited five days. that is not the case. they actually put the proclamimation in and lowered the flag within hours but ordered them to be lowered for five days. the same day on one and the bust bust -- boston bombing the second day and newtown the same day. this was much longer than the white house has made the decision to honor those victims and lower the fact. i want to be on the record so everybody has the facts and they don't bear out to make the

situation any better. andrea? >> well the father of a woman who was killed while walking on a san francisco pier is one of several victim's family members testifying today on capitol hill. lawmakers are looking into the sanctuary cities that limit the cooperation between local law enforcement and federal immigration authorities. san francisco is one city with such policies and it is where kate steinle was shot and killed by an undocumented felon who was supposed to be detained for federal authorities but released instead. here is jim steinle. >> suddenly a shot rang out, kate fell and looked at me and said help me dad. those are the last words i will ever hear from my daughter. due to misjointed laws the u.s. suffered a self-inflicted wound

by loosing our daughter by a man who should never have been on the street. >> rachel your husband is in congress in the u.s. house of representatives and we know that sanctuary cities are a key principle and value of the democratic party. why isn't more to be done to strangle the funding or penalize them for defying federal law that is on the books that is leading to those murders? >> it is hall mark of the instruction to decide what rules to follow. sanctuary cities is not working. it is a shelter for illegal felons and a magnet for people who have felony and criminal records. so it is not working. we need to change it. there is a hearing. i think they acted very quickly after this. you see this happen not long ago. the hearing is happening and let's remember there is 11 million undocumented people living here. there is only limited amount of

money to deal with them. why are we not prioritized and getting rid of the people with criminal records? is there a lot of people working hard and trying to make a better life. >> i want to go to you on the money point. this is the way to get at them. during the gang of eight bill diane feinstein the original proponent of these sanctuary cities wanted to impede doing anything to stop what happened. is the money the best way to get at a state that is cash strapped like california? >> they don't seem to be responding to money or in route to changing this current policy. by the way she was the first person we heard in reaction to this shockingly when she has been allowing this to go on. tray gaudy said this creates, referring to the administration

policies it creates gaping hole in the criminal justice system leading to deadly consequences. i think the fear is how many more instances are we going to see and report on before we actually see changes from washington on the policy? >> it does not correspond with the narrative of liberals. whenever there is a gun tragedy the immediate effect is more gun laws. because of the poor enforcement on the part of the sheriff this guy is there. and the fact you have democrats apologizing for localities not to enforce federal law shows you where it stands. >> the president called sandra fluc but not the person you just saw testify. a screaming kid at a restaurant and the backlash a diner owner is facing for yelling at a crying toddler and why she is

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owner in maine who refuses to apologize. the owner tried to get the family to control their kid until she had enough. >> i slammed both hands on the counter and pointed at the child saying this has to stop. his mother screamed at me because i was yelling at the child. i think mom and dad could have taken the kid out and nipped it in the butt. >> when is it okay to take your child to a diner and when it is okay to scold another child? >> the responsibility lies in the hands of the parent. they need to be well-fed well-slept and a good time of the day. not at 8 o'clock at night. this is all on the parent.

>> and she let the baby cry for 40 minutes. i am the kind of parent who likes other people who can sometimes have more affect disciplining by kid. i don't know the exact terms of now she did it but all of us are lunetics if we hear them screaming for 40 hours. >> i might have had choice words for the person yelling at my kid. >> "outnumbered" overtime. click on the overtime tab. we are on the line waiting for you. did i say on the line? online waiting for you. a quick commercial break and "happening now" on the other side.

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