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this is times square new york. getting ready for a rally of all rallies against this iran deal. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino along with kimberly guilfoyle, eric bolling, geraldo rivera and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." tonight we are joined by a special guest. he is the governor of new jersey and hopes to be the next president of the united states. chris christie is here for his very first appearance on "the five." welcome, governor. we're glad you made it. >> glad to be here. >> the traffic we'll blame the mayor a little bit later in the show. i'm going to kick it off and go around the table a couple of times. you've been a declared candidate for a little over a month. i was curious, what sort of anxieties do you hear from the campaign trail from potential voters? what's their biggest problem and how would you try to solve it? >> the biggest anxiety lately
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that i've heard on the trail is just about america's role in the world. people are feeling very unsafe. they really are. the shootings in chattanooga have exasperated that. the iran deal an the president lying about the iran deal have exacerbated that. they're just wondering whether anything can be done to try to stabilize the world a little bit. in the beginning, when i was out and traveling last fall it was more economic anxiety. but now in the last month or two, more national security anxiety. >> what would you try to do to try to earn their vote if that's their biggest concern? >> well first what i tell them is that i'm the only person in the race who's actually prosecuted terrorists investigated terrorists used the patriot act, understands what it takes to do this. so i try to tell them first off you need a president who understands how to give the tools to the intelligence and military community. i think i'm the best person to do that because i'm the only one who has done it. >> kimberly. >> i wanted to follow up on that your experience as a prosecutor. i've had the opportunity recently to hear you speak. you seem to be right on point with the issues that
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conservatives are looking at in terms of national security foreign policy. you also have your experience as a prosecutor. speak a little bit more to the role of the united states globally and what you think this administration should be doing differently in terms of making us more safe at home. >> first off, the president should keep his word. i think the biggest thing -- i've heard this from allies of ours -- that when the president said he was going to throw a red line at syria if assad used chemical weapons he would take him out and then did not. forget whether you think that was the right policy or not. when the president of the united states says he's going to do something he needs to do it. that makes our adversaries more emboldened u our allies more nervous. the president has to start to keep his word if that's even available to him as an option with only 18 months left. >> >>. >> gutfeld. >> isis have altered their communications based on acquired nsa documents that were taken by snow den. so now they're using couriers. if you were president would you get the s.e.a.l.s to go into
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russia nab snow den, bring him back here for trial and execution? >> no, i wouldn't. i wouldn't. i wouldn't send the s.e.a.l.s in to pick up that pete ofiece of garbage. wouldn't put any s.e.a.l.'s life at rest okay pick up a traitor and a piece of garbage which what is snow denis and empowered by people like rand paul who believe somehow what the nsa was doing was illegal and unconstitutional which is ridiculous. what he's done and led in congress has made us more vulnerable and weaker as a country. >> holder said there could be a deal for snow den. would you be for that? >> i don't trust any deal. i don't trust any deal this administration makes. >> right. >> our four hostages are still sitting in iran, yet we lifted the arms embargo in five years and ballistic missile technology embargo in eight years. he said this was all about nuclear. the president doesn't tell the truth about this stuff. i wouldn't trust anybody. the justice department or this administration to negotiate a deal. >> speaking of hostages i want to ask you quickly about cuba. they're harboring a new jersey cop killer >> yes they are. >> joann chesemart. how do you feel about that deal
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that's left that cop killer there? >> it's awful. the day the president announced it i sent him a letter what would you say to the wife and children of this policeman who was killed and the shooter has been paid by the cuban government for 40 years. how do you take them off the watch list when she's the top domestic terrorist wanted by your own fbi? >> >> bolling. >> we've had a tough time in new jersey the last fewer years. there have been nine credit downgrades under your watch four in the last year. my concern is in growth. new jersey ranks 46th out of 50 states in growth going forward in 2014 i'm sorry. how do you change then with that kind of record over the last few years, how do you change it on the debate stage when people are going to ask you that question? >> i tell them the whole story. in the eight years before i became government we had zero net private sector job growth
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and we were 50th in america. zero net private sector jobs in eight years. in the 5 1/2 years i've been governor we've gained 198,000 new private sector jobs. when you have a democratic legislature like i do that doesn't want to reduce taxes it also is very difficult to make yourselves more competitive. but we've done it through regulatory relief. we got rid of a third of the regulations in our first year and cut business taxes $2.3 billion. >> we're still lagging new york and pennsylvania. they've actually created all the jobs that they lost. going forward new jersey still i think with 36% below where we originally the high water mark. >> i'm sure that when i get done with this answer i'm going to have your endorsement. here it is. you know why new york has moved ahead? andrew cuomo cut taxes and income taxes below what the rates are in new jersey right now. pennsylvania's always had lower taxes than us. so there's just so much you can do as governor. when the democratic legislature got business taxes cut $2.3 billion, 198,000 new private
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sector jobs. unemployment rate is the lowest since 2008. is it perfect not. but with a democratic legislature it's pretty darn good. >> juan williams. >> governor, i just can't believe you're here. it's unbelievable to me. because "the five" is always such an interesting group. and now we're a sixth. you recently said this is what knocks me out. you never dated a democrat? >> not they know of. >> what are you asking women what their political affiliation? >> they asked if i ever dated a democrat. i dated one other woman in college. i got to tell you. she was fairly apolitical. >> she's probably a socialist. i bet it was bernie sanders in drag. that's what it was. >> oh, that's awful. wait until i tell this young woman you think she looks like bernie sanders in drag. terrible. awful. >> by the way, on this rand paul thing, rand paul guy is now saying oh, you know what? governor christie is up to tricks and stunts. he's saying that when the chattanooga incident happened how can that be somehow related to the fact that the national
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security network is so intrusive and violating our rights by intruding on our phone calls, our e-mails, et cetera and saying you're just doing this as a matter of political expediency. >> that's the difference between being a senator who doesn't have to do anything marks up bills in subcommittee and actually being someone who's been responsible for doing things like a u.s. attorney for seven years and like a governor for the last six. i know that these things work. i know they can be done constitutionally. you know why? because they did them. senator paul doesn't have the first idea. unless they taught him that in opthalmologist school i don't know whether he would know about that or not. >> why are you taking on rand paul? >> because he's won on thisrong on this issue and making our country weaker and more vulnerable at a very dangerous time. his staff couldn't cut those comments fast enough to put them on the internet to raise money off them. that's not what we should be doing on national security that. should end at the water's edge of politics. we should be talking about how to keep this country safe. that's not what he's doing. >> okay. here's my question.
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i've been planning this one all day. >> all right. >> what kind of advice do you get from your wife about your presidential run? >> work hard. i mean you know what mary pat says to me all the time when people meet you and get to talk to you and know you you do very well. so work as hard as you can possibly work. get as many people to know you as you can and you're going to be just fine. >> she's your best adviser? >> my best adviser and my best friend. that's the opposite of what they tell hillary. don't talk to people. the more they hear frommout less they like you. it's true. >> can i go after jersey? >> of course. >> that's where i'm going after this? >> you have an atlantic city problem. can we agree on that? >> oh, yeah. have for some time. >> 50% unemployment. four of the 12 casinos there have closed up shop they've left. one of them was donald trump. you hit donald trump in the aftermath of donald trump's comments on senator mccain. you said he shouldn't have said that. if donald trump wanted to come back to new jersey and bring a casino back to the atlantic city
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boardwalk which you desperately need would you take him back? >> i don't think we need more casinos in atlantic city. it's a misunderstanding on some people's part what happened in atlantic city. atlantic city built 12 casinos at a time where we were a monopoly east of the mississippi. in the years since then we've had 38 other states get casino gaming. well of course you're going to need less casinos in atlantic city. now, i hate that any of them had to close because people lost their jobs. it's a natural downsizing. what's happening in atlantic city, nongaming revenue is going up. gaming revenue is staying flat. atlantic city is going to be fine over time. >> i spent a lot of time on the jersey shore. i would tell you that's one area i would not go to for any other reason than to go to a casino. that place needs a lot of cleaning up. a lot of cleaning up. >> listen. is this going to be about living in new jersey? because we have a whole audience of americans. >> no. but to look at this on a bigger scale. unemployment going on in atlantic city specifically new jersey. >> the unemployment is lowest
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since 2008. even with the awful things that have happened in atlantic city, which were naturally going to happen. what we've done is the state has taken over with a special district policing the boardwalk and marine area. came has gone dawn significantly in those areas. we need to move from a gaming-based system to a resort-based system. that's what we're moving towards and making progress. the last bit is the municipal government there borrowed much too much money over the last 30 years and in huge debt. if you go down and look at it the last three months in those eight casinos that remain gaming revenue has gone up. >> let me just jump in here. >> then can we get kimberly in? >> excellent question. i wanted to raise the issue of immigration and sanctuary cities. i come from san francisco. i was a prosecutor there. and we've had some troubles in san francisco especially with the death of that young woman, steinle. and now you see this has become a national debate issue in terms of whether or not the federal government should take a larger more specific role. they are giving money to these
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states and these cities that are essentially not following the law. what's your position on that? >> they should follow the law. i mean listen. this administration has set a tone that you're allowed to follow the laws you like. so we have laws against marijuana in this country. but if you don't like that in your particular state you don't have to follow the federal law. the government looks the other way. why should people in sanctuary cities feel any differently? there are laws against this. but if you don't like it look the other way. if our president of the united states if there's a law on the federal books it will be enforced if i'm the president. i support the effort they're making in the congress right now. >> [ inaudible ]. >> absolutely. in colorado and all these other states two other states that have legalized it the federal government will once again start enforcing the marijuana laws when i'm president. unless congress wants to change those laws and have the discussion. don't pick and choose. when we take an oath we don't say we'll support and defend the laws we like right? >> we only have a couple of minutes left. we're going to keep him for one more block. so juan and then greg. >> okay. so one of the things that disappointed me on your part is
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i thought you were doing great work on education in new jersey. school choice vouchers right? >> yep. >> reining in performance pay for teachers and common core. here comes the political season and chris christie does a flop on common core. >> i listened to the teachers and parents in new jersey. we tried common core for four years and weren't having success. teachers weren't buying into it neither were parents. >> in terms of actual results you could sit here right now on this set and say, here's how new jersey has done better in terms of educational performance over my tenure. >> we've always done better. we've always done better. it hasn't had anything to do with common core. in fact common core was setting us back. because teachers and parents were fighting in their school districts every day because they didn't agree with the direction that it was going in. and so i gave it a try for four years. unlike a lot of other people who knee jerked reflexively got rid
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of it. i said let's give it a try for four years. >> the results were there. i think particularly for low income minority students being ignored in terms of test results and otherwise, it was a winner. >> that's not why we were doing better in our districts you're talking about in our challenge districts. the reason we were doing better in those challenge districts we opened up more charter schools, renaissance schools, more choice for parents. they were raising what was going on that. had nothing to do with common core. had to do with longer school day, longer school year fundamental things we should be doing on the basis that had nothing to do with common core. that's why we're doing better in places like camden and newark. >> why wouldn't you want someone that would evaluate the evidence and facts and look at the performance and listen to the parents and teachers and be courageous to make a choice and make a change that's positive for the people versus sticking with something so someone doesn't say you're a flip-flop flip-flopper. >> yeah, juan. >> it's a four-point question. i see a problem in when you look at isis and immigration. there's a failure in articulating our values.
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and if you look for example, isis presents its values. but we offer nothing in return. we've replaced exceptionalism with ambivalence. look at immigration. immigration is incredibly important. how do we persuade why immigration needs reform without creating disgust? >> well i think the way you do it you talk about the legal ways that immigration has worked in the past. i talk about my grandfather who was born on the boat from sicily to the united states. my great-grandparents so wanted to come to the united states legally, when they got their ticket my great-grandmother was nine months pregnant. she got on that boat. and my mother used to tease my grandfather all the time. her father say you're nothing. you're not sicilian or american. you were born in the middle of the ocean. he used to say to me i came here they made me an american on ellis island. he was incredibly proud of it when he was a newborn. we need to get back to that ethic and talking about why it's so important. immigration is important for our country. it's what helped build our country. people need to know we're going to enforce the laws. >> are you in favor of a pathway
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to strip for the millions that are here? >> i am not. for the adults who came here knowingly, there has to be a penalty for knowingly breaking the law. over time over the last 5 1/2 years as i've gotten to see the effects of this and spoken to undocumented people in my state, my position has changed on it over that course of time because i've become more informed about it and -- >> not because of policy. >> not because of politics juan how dare you. >> governor you get to fight with juan on the break like we do. you're not leaving. don't go away. governor christie is going to stay with us and we're going to ask him how he plans to win over gop voters and get the nomination.
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♪ we're back now with presidential candidate chris christie. at moment the governor is trailing behind his gop competitors in a new "washington post" abc news poll. and according to quinnipiac he has a big battl some key wing states iowa colorado and virginia. how does he plan to win over republican voters to win the nomination? that is the question of the hour. and i know you plan on doing a lot of outreach to people that
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you've gone to in towns when they come and listen to you they come and listen to you again at another event. they say you're consistent on point. you've been getting a lot of positive feedback and response in the field when you're out there meeting with people like mary pat says you should do. >> exactly. campaigns matter. if they didn't matter we'd just have the election now. the polls now say, well if the election were held tomorrow everyone would be shocked. because it's not going to be held tomorrow. these campaigns matter okay? so we're going to go out there and work really hard. i'm sure that at this point in 2007 john mccain had fired his entire staff and had nobody working for him. and rudy giuliani my friend who was going to be president of the united states or hillary clinton. neither one of them wound up getting anywhere near the nomination. so that's why campaigns matter. we've proven it over and over in america. we're going to work hard. bring my message that's really strong and consistent and see what the voters say. >> you've also talked about the importance of having someone with executive level experience a governor like yourself versus a senator. >> there's no doubt about that. i don't think anybody wants to have another one-term united states senator as president of the united states who's only run
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a senate staff of 30 or 40 people. that's not the appropriate experience. you've got to be in the trenches knowing how to make these decisions and knowing how to make things work. and governors know how to do that. >> there are three guys right now going, what did he just say? rubio, paul and -- governor may i jump in? >> yes. >> so you've moved on abortion. you've moved on immigration. you've moved on common core. but you've moved into the area that i as a conservative am happy you've arrived at. there are others who think that donald trump has moved on some of them as well. and they're holding his feet to the fire. i'm glad if you're on the right side you're here. talk to me about bridgegate. is that in your rear view mirror or is that still pending? >> after three investigations that have all concluded exactly what i said on january 9th was exactly the truth, i think it's finally in my rear-view mirror. probably every place but msnbc. >> the polling shows that no
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conservatives and republicans careyry care remostlytely about that issue. >> people don't ask me about it. the only people who ask me about it are the press. >> what about the u.s. attorney? they were asking you. what about the state legislature? they're asking. their probes are going on. >> they're over. >> no no. some of them could come out next year. >> no. the legislature has closed down and done. the u.s. attorney has brought the charges against the people he's going to bring the charges against. those folks will go to trial whenever it is they go to trial. the fact of the matter is the u.s. attorney spent 15 months investigating something and came to the same conclusion i came to after 15 minutes. and that was that there were certain people who were responsible for doing something as he's alleged. i fired them. and he's now indicted them. and we'll go from there. >> so the problem with this is that it's really drained you in terms of fundraising. that when i look at the fundraising numbers, jeb bush is like wow. and then a lot of people who were backing you in the establishment republican side like the jets owner woody
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johnson, now they're with bush not with you. >> listen. if the son and the brother of a former president doesn't get establishment support, then he shouldn't even be in the race. so the fact is we've gotten a lot of great support. we announced our finance team today. meg whitman the ceo of hewlett-packard cochairing it with ken lanoge in new york. we've got a group of good people put together raised money and will raise what we need to be competitive. no one thought anybody was going to raise as much as jeb bush. if that much money really mattered and determined it steve forbes would be president, too. >> things are going to shift and change along the way. dana. >> last year you were the head of the republican governors association. you had success there. how important is it in a lot of these key states that you have an up republican governor going into 2016? >> incredible important. if you look at the state of florida, for instance where the rga and my leadership spent over $12 million in a race that rick
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scott won by 60,000 votes out of 6 million cast i think most republican candidates feel a lot better about the fact that rick scott will be governor of florida in 2016 than charlie crist. and you can cite any other number of other examples too that florida is a real important one. >> greg. >> two questions. i've read that you like springsteen and bon jovi. do you like anything that's good? [ laughter ] >> terrible. really? >> i saw springsteen in 1980. i fell asleep during the river tour when he did that four-hour chunk of bladeallads. and somebody robbed me. i have a serious question. there are conservatives, i like to phrase there are some who think that you hugging the president after the hurricane was worse than eating a live puppy while burning an american flag. how do you respond to that? >> there's the big picture that everybody's all concerned about with me shaking the president's hand. >> yes. >> and welcoming him to new jersey. >> you should be impeached. >> i would do the same thing again.
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i would shake his hand again and welcome him to my state. because i take an oath of office. and the people of my state, 365,000 homes destroyed, 75% of the state without power, no operating wastewater treatment or water treatment plants most of the state highways blocked. it was the worst disaster that ever hit the state of new jersey second worst natural disaster in the history of the country. if president deserves credit i give him credit. when he deserves blame as you've heard on this show i give hime. in the end what people expect from their governor or any elected leaders should be you do your job. i did my job for the people of new jersey and i make no apologies for it. in the end it difference make any difference in the election anyway. >> mitt romney didn't hold it against you. >> still does not. >> maybe not. >> he definitely doesn't. >> he said it himself any number of times. he wouldn't let me sleep at his house on fourth of july if he doesn't hold me against it. marco, good time. >> why do you feel you should be the one to be the republican
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nomination for president of the united states? >> the reason is if you want someone who's going to be able to do the job when they get there, who has the executive experience who has strength and character action someone who can stand on the stage with hillary clinton and deliver the points we need to deliver that this nation is in bad shape because of the leadership of barack obama and hillary clinton. we're less respected in the world. even jimmy carter the other day. jimmy carter said that he couldn't think of one country that we had a better relationship with today than the day barack obama became president. we need to put the world back in order. we need to get our economy growing again. i'm a guy who can get that done. not only do i have the strength to be able to stand for my principles but the other part of it is i know how to work across the aisle. i've worked with other people. i'll help bring those things to washington, d.c. again. that's the only reason to be president if you think you can really improve our country. >> a former u.s. attorney who understands how the department of justice should work. >> i'll have a real attorney general as president. >> that i like. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it, governor. good luck on the campaign trail. its was a pleasure.
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in yet another new video, planned parenthood flak is caught pondering the prices of aborted baby parts. warning it's gross. or rather she's gross. >> what are you paying? >> okay. i don't think so. i would like to know what would make you happy. >> you know negotiations [ inaudible ]. let me give a proposal. if you want a proposal. then if we want to pursue this mutually in terms of how you
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feel about there being a less crunchy technique to get more specimens. it's been years since i talked about [ inaudible ] let me figure out what others are getting. if this is fine -- [ inaudible ]. >> less crunchy. so this nice lady says cash isn't important, but it has to be worthwhile. then she jokes, i want a lamborghini. now, don't blame he. some kids would gave left kidney to have a lamb boreorghini. i call that gallows humor except it's not her pancreas on the line. the "new york times" editorial board cease this as an attack on abortion rights. the rest of us call dismembering unborn children attacks. the times calls them abortion rights. let's ponder the social issues that the media makes the right answer for every day. evolution, guns gay marriage. and believe me we've apologized for evolution a million times. so why can't the left apologize
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for what might be the most venal bargain since foust summoned the devil? relax you hacks. abortion's going nowhere. no one will be prying the foreacceptfore forceps out of the cold dead hands. why remind us of the human potential for inhumanity you should embrace this monster you gave birth to it. so will the press hound democratic candidates on their planned parenthood support in the same way they chase righties over guns? i wouldn't bet a lamborghini on it. >> kimberly the defense in "new york times" and media matters and all this other stuff they claim it was deceptively edited. you can seat full video in transcript. think released imthe same time they released the video. they weren't hiding anything. >> if that's the best think can do? what is deceptively edited about? the contents is there. talking about essentially
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creating organ bags out of fetuses. it's just -- it's so horrific. i don't understand why congress isn't up in arms and doing something about this in a substantial way. there should be an investigation, full-scale of planned parenthood. >> can i ask you something? >> no. go ahead. of course. >> i'm curious like do you think that there's a potential that there is criminal activity that's been going on? other than the funding issue the actual criminal activity. >> yeah. it should be investigated. that's why i'm saying. congress should call for an investigation and perhaps even further. there could be criminal activity. could be illegal things going on. these are just the videos we've been made aware of. why wouldn't someone want to investigate this to make sure that these atrocities are being discussed in the video that there aren't more that border on criminal behavior or activity. of course. >> eric it's funny. again the media is quarrelling over the video being spliced but not the gruesome procedure. >> you made that point after the first video came out. the "new york times" calls it quote a campaign of deception, not only the video but everybody
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who is talking about it in the aftermath of the video. if you watch that video, there's only one problem with the campaign of deception. she broke the law. she was negotiating a price for these organs. at one point she even says well how much for an tact fetus? how much for the organs of an tact fetus? i'm looking to buy a lamborghini. ha-ha. they start that video with how much for the parts. the other one says well you go first. that's a negotiation. they are dealing, they're not saying we'll give you these parts for scientific purposes at our cost. in planned parenthood can distance themselves from her. if there's another one or second one or third or fourth they have a big problem. they get $5 billion in taxes. abortion is not going away but the tax support of it should >> yes. juan they claim that what they were haggling over is the cost for the tissue donation. like storage and just basic compensation. does that make it any better? i mean basically what this is
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it takes abortion out of the euphemism. we actually see what it's like and we see what they do. we actually see the honest portrayal of it. isn't that what worries people? >> no. i think no adult who lives in this country and understands that this is a very traumatic and difficult and in fact you would say for anybody who's a doctor or anybody who's in the room you would say it's graphic and horrific right? okay. what this about is guerilla theater. eric, you know what stht? the guy who did this went into business to do this kind of guerilla theater. they say they have tape for a year coming. it's going to be part of the political campaign season. what it is about is a wedge issue of abortion which terrifically divisive. [ overlapping speakers ] >> if they did it to the nra you would salute it. >> this is so personal for so many people. i just think it's wrong to politicize it in this way. >> what about gay marriage? gay marriage is personal for to
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a lot of people. >> this is now highly politicized. to your point -- >> does that make it so you can say it's politicized does it make it going? >> money going to planned parenthood is not going to abortion so you don't have to worry about. >> 220,000 abortions per year. sfwla. >> that has nothing to do with planned parenthood. >> if i give you money. [ overlapping speakers ] >> funding your drug habit. >> this is why people get mad at republicans for politicizing such personal issues. >> we should show what happens. >> you know what planned parenthood does? they do screenings cancer for women, help with contraceptions so you don't have to have an abortion. >> every day a mugger buys his mother milk. >> there we go. this is -- again these people are engaged in guerilla theater to create an issue. [ overlapping speakers ] >> you have a woman -- >> unbelievable. >> a woman neshing for baby's body parts so she can buy a lamborghini. >> you're pointing a finger at the filmmaker?
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>> saying the filmmaker is a pattern. >> national institutes of health. [ overlapping speakers ] >> juan you're ignoring the content of the issue. no one wants to hear you say that it's political. no one wants to hear that from you period. >> all right. >> you should be objecting to the content of that video. >> yeah yeah right. >> it's irrelevant who's on which side. look at the content. >> it's like a gruesome version of "the godfather" leave the baby we'll take the liver. >> oh. >> the baby's worth less but the river is not. >> who said -- >> i'm just explaining it. >> it is horrible. we're objecting to the content of the video and raising a serious question for planned parenthood getting funding for operational costs. lights are on doors are open. that place is functioning. there should be an investigation. this should matter. i don't care if you're a democrat or republican. >> we have to go. president obama reluctantly bid farewell to john stewart last night. it was tearful. i cried. how will the left go on without
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was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. ♪ president obama only has 18 months to go before leaving office and he's devastated his chief satirist won't be sticking around to help him mock republicans. >> you're also senioritis. what you got about a year? you're on your way out. >> you know i can't believe that you're leaving before me! in fact i'm executive order. that john stewart cannot leave the show. >> well stewart's leave requesting the daily show" in two weeks, the very same day as the first republican presidential debate. what will the democrats do without him and what if anything can the gop learn from this liberal love fest? start with you, dana.
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>> i think first of all you saw two things there. president obama has revamped the way they do p.r. in the white house. and i don't think that will ever change. i think it's completely different from even eight years ago. part of that is social media. i think john stewart had a lot to do with it. obama himself has great timing very charming. so it's actually worked well for him. there's plenty of other satirists that are trying to follow in john stewart's foot steps. except i don't know if they will be as successful. but they've got plenty of help on their side to help a democrat. >> greg, president obama has been as a seated president three times on the show. can a gop handle himself? anybody great on the field? >> i think christie is glib and quick enough to handle john stewart. what does it tell you when a president is really sad to see you go that you were his mouth piece? and stewart was a great for obama. he was his virtual press secretary who articulated obama's values better than he did. say what you will about john stewart, he's smart, he's funny,
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but he's not really scary. he only speaks truth to power if the power has an r after his name. >> i don't think that's quite true. but it's largely true. >> doesn't have to be true. >> oh, yeah, it does. >> i can say whatever i want, juan. >> i know that. in fact that's what i was going to say just now. i was going to say just now that your new show on the weekends is terrific. because i think that if the right wants a satirist they should call your number brother. i don't know if you need donald trump to hold up your phone number for us all to call you. but i think that's right. i think that what you need is somebody on the right who can relate to young people in this country, and to people who aren't exactly in the country club. >> as a 50-year-old man, i think i'm the guy. >> for president? wait a second. let's not get carried away unicorn boy over there. >> [ inaudible ]. >> because i said something about greg?
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>> try to say something nice about cashing in and make it all good. >> wake up america. [ overlapping speakers ] >> juan can be aabsolve himself. >> we were just having some fun, dana. >> #wake up america. now it's even. obama's final john stewart appearance. >> i like john stewart. he's funny. i like when he did all that cool stuff and funny stuff with dana and greg. that was cute. in terms of the president, yeah. he's very comfortable there. maybe he should replace him. >> he might. >> out of the white house! >> all lives matter don't they in so why did a presidential candidate apologize for saying that when "the five" returns.
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♪ democratic presidential candidate martin o'malley made a great point over the weekend over liberal matters. >> every life matters. that is why this issue is so important. black lives matter. white lives matter. all lives matter. >> now, this is incredible. disappointingly, he had to apologize after getting pushback from the crowd as you just saw. so outspoken espn commentator steven a. smith defended o'malley's initial remark. now he's getting pushback.
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>> ridiculous. >> i'm not saying that somebody shouldn't say that black lives matter. what i'm saying is there's nothing wrong with somebody highlighting that all lives matter. that's not a reason for somebody to be booed. that's not a reason for a presidential candidate to have to apologize! apologize? does anybody take a moment to realize how we look when we force someone to apologize for saying all lives matter? do you have any idea how that makes us look? especially when black folks are getting killed by black folks every day? >> dana you know steven a. smith is on target for my money. i wonder how you feel about this. >> no. whenever we talk about steven a. smith i always like i've never actually had a chance to meet him. >> you kind of light up. >> it's like okay, that is absolutely the best response. the thing that's amazing is that o'malley actually did apologize! he actually apologized for saying that all lives matter. that's crazy! and he wants to be the president
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of the united states? >> i wouldn't vote for him because of that. why would he do that? >> he apologized for saying what he said without saying all lives matter. >> they think the far right is crazy. the far left. >> it makes me feel like wow. these people are way out of line! because their argument is that black lives matter is a meaning that came out of ferguson and trayvon martin and all that right? okay. but the reality is all lives do matter. once you get into this game it is a zero game. because greg people will say you're racist too, then we're just at each other's throats. >> but just the phrase "black lives matter" is divisive. because you're saying just that. black lives matter. when it should be all lives. we're in an era where identity is more important than industry. what steven smith is pointing out is that when you embrace group identity instead of staking out your own individual identity you achieve nothing. when you look at smith's career he's a unique person. because there's no group think around him. nothing rubs off on him from
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other people. >> he's smart. >> he's his own man. >> i think he's courageous and fearless to be able to say that. my god. what kind of country are we in? all lives do matter. i don't understand. what is the problem? >> unless you're unborn. >> right. >> eric -- >> then you're a body part. >> they want the democrats on stage to stand up. >> juan i don't know what's going won martin o'malley. that and he also said that isis was created by climate change. honestly he needs to back out now. all right. one more thing is coming at you. stay with us. >> all right. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life.
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it's time now for one more thing. you're going to love kimberly's. >> you really are. greg especially. >> can't wait. >> printce george celebrating his second birthday. is that not the cutest baby you've ever seen greg? >> i am fainting. >> he's very cute. >> trying to find out when my car is coming. >> very good personality. he's adorable. they're going to celebrate his birthday privately at home. >> don't they know that high socks went out? >> you could borrow his clothes. they'd fit you. >> i like that one, kimberly. that was good. >> take one for the team. >> should have stopped there. >> yeah. >> what? >> fire on. >> this is a fox news extreme weather alert. >> eric you got to do a psa for
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me pal. there's a storm coming. a storm the likes of which you have never seen before. if you're on the east coast you're not safe. find shelter. hide. do whatever you've got to do to stay out of the storm. it's going to be a big one. so leave the umbrella at home. grab the chain saw. thanks. >> i got you, finn. finn and april we'll take care of that, everyone "sharknado" tonight" very careful. grab your chain saw. >> greg gutfeld. >> all right. time for -- you're probably wondering could you make soccer even more interesting than it is? yes, you can. just add robots. check this out. these are actual robots playing soccer. i believe you call it football. proving they have the mettle for the sport. juan laughed at that. that just shows you juan has no sense of humor. you know what's interesting about this game? they had a very very high score considering it's soccer.
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0-0. >> oh, my goodness. i mean there really are no words. >> tomorrow could you please try harder? >> oh, no. i mailed that one in. >> yesterday on "the five" we talked about deblasio and his attempt to try to cap uber? either he watched the show or he backtracked. kate upton tweeting him why do you want to return to days when only those in lower and mid-town manhattan could get a ride. ashton kutcher this is about politicians representing their personal interests and not community. the mayor backed off and they're going to study it for four months. who won? >> ashton is an investor in uber. >> probably. >> great fact kimberly. >> he is. >> i just keep bringing it. so it's summertime time for a bear. down to maine they've combined lobsters get this, and beer to make a beer that's brewed with lobster. it tasted terrible. it's called ox bow brewery they brew it with lobster and salt
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and it's a hit. >> i would pass on that one more thing. you have to try harder except for eric who really brought it. that's it fours "special report" is next. is there a secret nuclear deal with iran? the white house says no. but two republican lawmakers, freshly returned from meetings overseas say yes. this is "special report." >> good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. as president obama continues to both court and mock critics of his legacy-shaping nuclear agreement with iran there is word tonight of a separate covert deal between the islamic republic and the u.n.'s nuclear team. two of them in fact that are not going to be shared with members of congress nor with you. chief washington correspondent james rosen is at the white house tonight.
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