thanks for watching us. ms. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops here because we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight in the middle of a heated national debate on illegal immigration and a day after families travel to capitol hill with heart wrenching tails of loved ones murdered by illegal immigrants the white house remains defiant suggesting today that any law cracking down on sanctuary cities that harbor illegal aliens would be dead on arrival when it hits the president's desk. congress prepared the bill that would crack down on sanctuary cities meaning district that ignore federal immigration laws in order to provide a safe haven to those here illegally. when asked about the measure pushed by grieving families

today the white house said this -- >> to stop federal funding to sanctuary cities would the president veto legislation that aims to punish these cities counties and jurisdictions? >> the irony is that many of the pieces of legislation were written and are supported by republicans who oppose comprehensive immigration reform. blocking comprehensive immigration reform would perpetuate a system that is closest to amnesty. when they raise concerns about how effectively our immigration system is working to keep the community safe they have no one to blame but themselves. >> would he specifically veto legislation that -- >> i think i have articulated why we don't take those legislative proposals particularly seriously. >> they don't take them seriously, the message 24 hours after a half dozen witnesses

went before congress to testify. many were families who lost loved ones at the hands of illegal immigrants all begging washington for some help. >> that man was in the country illegally and armed with numerous illegal weapons. he aimed one outside the car of a parking lot of motel 6 in sacramento and opened fire killing my husband with a shot to the forehead. >> immediately offered cigarettes to the man who shot him in the face killing him. seemingly uneffected the man coldly and callusly stepped over his dying body grabbed a couple of packs of cigarettes. >> instead of getting joshua home from school we got an autopsy report that reads in part this body is received in a gray body bag, americans are dying daily at the hands of criminals that we don't even know are here. >> suddenly a shot rang out, kate fell and looked at me and

said help me dad. those were the last words i will ever hear from my daughter. >> that last person was mr. steinle, the father of kate steinle whose daughter was allegedly shot by an illegal immigrant with a long criminal record who should have been deported and was repeatedly but instead was put back on the street because of sanctuary cities policy in the city of san francisco and they are all across the country in hundreds of cities. joining me now brad steinle, kate's brother. thank you for being here. >> thanks megyn. >> the white house response today is no we are not doing it. you have your answer. you go to capitol hill. you testify and already you heard from josh earnest these are not serious proposals. >> it's hard to hear. we put forth our best effort. we came to d.c. and try to make a change that we think is logical. it's a matter of keeping felons

off the streets. instead of tackling the problem and being proactive i feel like there is a diversion and people aren't taking it seriously. >> not only did the white house say this isn't serious, this isn't a serious proposal but today nancy pelosi san francisco representative and now house minority leader says this legislation ought to be called the donald trump act and says it is wildly partisan a misguided bill that second guesses the decision of police chiefs around the country about how to best ensure public safety. >> well anybody that would second guess the chief of police in san francisco. he has done a horrible job. and the fact that he let a seven-time convicted felon with five deportations bring him to your city and roll out the red carpet and let him go on to

murder my sister you are not doing a good job and you need to have strict guide lines on how to cooperate with the federal government. >> the nerve of her to become indignant at your attempt to second guess the sheriff who let out the man despite a detainer request from ice who wound up killing kate. what will get through to them if not the testimony we heard yesterday, kate's death which received national attention? she is indignant over the proposal to do something about it. >> words cannot express. we met with numerous senators in d.c. and we did have positive feedback both on the left and right side. for those senators congressmen and women that don't get what we are trying to do it's narrow. it's black and white. we're just trying to keep felons

off the street and keep americans safe. it doesn't go much further than that. >> let me ask you this because it has been over a week since you and i spoke the last time. have you heard from the white house yet? >> we have not. we are not really expecting a call. it's like what just happened in chattano days to lower the flags to half staff. we sat and waited for two weeks for a call. seems as though you need to go out and protest and people need to be angry in order to get something done. i'm not going to be angry. my parents aren't going to get angry. we are going to try to take a proactive and positive way to get change done. >> after you specifically publically said you would like to hear from them from the white house, from the administration and in the wake of that they don't call. we played a sound byte last week of sandra fluke, a birth control

activist. she received a call from president obama personally because rush limbaugh called her a nasty name. they cannot make the time to call your family after policies they support and won't change led to the death of your sister. it's hard to believe. >> it is. it is hard to believe with government and people's agendas they have blinders on. there is a blinder on many people in the white house. they don't see kate and they don't see her death as something that is meaningful. we are going to keep pushing. we are going to keep on trying to get like minded people that understand what we are trying to accomplish and trying to keep people from having to deal with what we are dealing with today. >> what do you make of donald trump and nancy pelosi's comment

to call this the donald trump act. has he reached out to your family? >> he has. i actually respect him. he had the decency to call. he called us a couple of times. it's more than some have done. but this isn't donald trump's policies or his law. this is kate's law. and it's very cut and clear. it's to keep convicted felons that are illegal immigrants out of our country or in jail. it's very simple. >> brad very good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> all the best to you and your family. >> thanks. we have breaking news in a case that is getting national attention. as "the kelly file" gets ahold of what could be key documents in the death of an african-american woman in police custody. up next how this could change the case which hillary clinton just weighed in on. dana perino is here. she will tell you what hillary

said. and then a growing number of republican presidential candidates going after donald trump in a new and angry way. we'll show you why. interesting thoughts. plus ugly fallout for a top anchor at espn after he has the nerve to defend martin o'malley's comments that all lives matter and ask -- he didn't defend the comment, he is outraged about the apology. he is asking why anyone would apologize for saying something like this -- >> every life matters. and that is why this issue is so important. black lives matter. white lives matter. all lives matter.

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"the kelly file" obtaining new documents in the case of an african-american woman who died in police custody following an ugly encounter with a texas state trooper. cops say bland's death was a suicide. critics say she had everything to live for. this case is gaining so much attention it is getting reaction from presidential candidates like hillary clinton. dana perino is here to talk about the controversial comments from mrs. clinton. we will tell you what she said.

first, to the new documents that show ms. bland had told police that she had tried to kill herself in the past. trace gallagher reports from our west coast news room. >> reporter: "the kelly file" obtained a questionnaire filled out at jail. she claimed she does have epilepsy and takes medication to treat seizures and says she was not depressed and not suicidal but goes on to acknowledge that after she lost a baby in 2015 she tried to commit suicide by taking pills. her family reemphasized today they do not believe she killed herself. listen. >> it raises questions why a 28-year-old woman would call her mother in excitement about those two jobs and then take her life. >> the coroner has ruled she hanged herself with a plastic bag and motion sensitive surveillance video shows no one entered or left her cell in the hours before police last checked

on her and when she was discovered unresponsive. then there is the controversial dash cam video showing the traffic stop and arrest of sandra bland. in certain parts the video loops or repeats itself but the audio is uninterrupted, you can see a car drive by. the next spring the car disappears. some believe the tape was edited but the texas department of public safety says it had technical problems when it was uploaded. as for the content of the tape in statement to supervisors officer says he tried repeatedly to de-escalate the situation during the traffic stop but the tape shows within 90 seconds it went from relatively calm to full on confrontation. >> you mind putting out your cigarette, please. >> i'm in my car. why do i have to put out my cigarette? >> you can step out now. >> i don't have to step out. >> step out of the car.

>> you do not have the right to do that. >> i have the right. step out or i will remove you. i am giving you a lawful order. i will drag you out of here. >> you are going to drag me out of my own car. >> get out of the car. >> texas dps says officer violated procedures by not explaining his actions to sandra bland. >> thank you. just hours before new documents came to light presidential hopefuls including hillary clinton weighed in on ms. bland's death saying i hope and expect a full investigation into the situation. it is also a tragic reminder of the ongoing systemic issues of race and justice in america that we must address with urgency and we have to do more than talk. we have to take action. dana perino is cohost of the five. really? >> this is a blatant political

attempt to insert herself into the situation and pander, is it not? >> her statement until the last sentence i thought was a good one. it was fine. there is this weird thing of every presidential candidate wanting to be on every news cycle and respond to every question they are asked. there is not a federal nexus here and there is an investigation. she is a lawyer. she knows the investigations take time. i think it would have been better for the family and police force including all of the police forces across america if she felt restraint. i think she is being pushed by staff or herself lacking judgment and deciding what to comment on. i think she goes too far and i hope that going forward she would exercise judgment and some discernment to take a pause before indicting police forces across america. >> systemic issues. this is tragic reminder. what is her evidence that this is based on race?

that the arrest is based on race and belligerent behavior based on race. maybe he is a hot head. that's how cops are. i tried to defy a cop before. not really but i kind of was slow in producing my license and registration. they don't like it. there is a reason she is doing this. >> it is political. there is action taken by the police department. he is on a desk assignment. they said he did wrong and didn't follow proper procedures. it is disturbing when you see the video. her politicizing the issue doesn't help the family. you have a grieving family a woman either in distress then or before as she tells police officers in the documents that "the kelly file" revealed. the issue of mental illness in this country is actually one that i think hillary clinton if she wants to lead this country would be better served in helping us try to deal with that because every week we can talk about somebody harming themselves or harming others and

trace it back to mental illness. >> they jumped the gun. she is calling for an investigation, bernie sanders, too. i suppose he wants an investigation. what he said was this is outrageous police behavior and the result of that is three days later she is dead in her jail cell. that implies that a murder took place here. we showed the audience that this woman has a history of being suicidal. the video tape of the jail cell does not show anybody going into the jail cell during the time in which she hanged herself. he comes out and says people should not die for a minor traffic infraction. way to light a flame to an already potentially explosive situation. >> it all does go back to politics especially for hillary clinton. i don't think she considers bernie sanders real competition. she is going to be in the fight of her life to win this presidential election. she has to turn out african-american voters. they turned out in big numbers

for president obama both times. that kind of enthusiasm will it exist. she is banking on it being less and pandering and blaming police force not just in texas. >> just came off ferguson missouri where they indicted the officer unfairly. in the race situation some campus race situations. rolling stones gets embarrassed with its report. there is the duke case and then the situation at columbia where mattress girl has the mattress on her back. it appears that story looks like it was made up and yet it is another strong democratic female trying to make an issue of a case. >> a lot of reason to exercise caution. national leaders get in trouble when they jump the gun. president obama we learned from

him several times when you jump in on a case especially when there is no federal connection then you had in your a block brad steinle the brother of kate steinle. there is a federal nexus there and the white house -- not just that president obama can't call and nobody can call. that then looks political, as well. >> and yet they called sandra fluke. that was worth his time. >> there are other examples of that, too. >> good to see you. planned parenthood is doing serious damage control after talking about collecting fetal tissue for cash. we will talk about why the group can be in real trouble. a growing number of republican presidential candidates going after donald trump in a new way. next on where this is likely to go. >> he offers a barking carnival act that can best be described as trumpism.

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language that mr. trump is employing is worthy of the office. i do not. >> i think you are seeing is it is one thing to have a reality tv show but if you turn the presidential campaign into a reality show you will lose because republicans want to win. >> ceo of lunds global and what americans really want. it was you to whom donald trump made controversial comments. it wasn't all about john mccain. he broadened it out to i like people who aren't captured. if i made a list of controversial things he said we would be here all night. still number one in the polls right now. why? >> it's because he says what he thinks. he's unedited. he is uncensored and the american people other than wanting genuine accountability

from president want someone who tells it like it is. it is not about his background or policies because we don't know what they are. he says what comes to his mind and doesn't sound scripted or rehearsed and that 20% of america really likes that. >> and he doesn't really go back on what he says. even under pressure he doesn't really flip. that's unusual, too. >> and, in fact you're doing a segment on him. it will increase his support another 10 or 15,000 people. every time the mainstream media focuses on him and someone says you have to get out of the race or you owe an apology and he doesn't do it there is a segment of america that says way to go. stick it to them. what he said about p.o.w.s was horrific and what he said about john mccain tells me this is going to be the most uncivil, the most mean election campaign that we have ever had.

again, i go back to that 20% of america that is tired of politics as usual and fed up with politicians who tell you what they think we want to hear rather than what they believe. >> he is number one in a lot of polls. to what extent is that due to the fact that donald trump often says things like this. i will also say having known him for a while he is a funny man. he cracks jokes a lot. he sort of makes comments often. and i'm kind of used to hearing this stuff. i think it is far more shocking if you heard it from ted cruz or scott walker or jeb bush. it is kind of like i don't know if he means it. he sort of says this stuff. >> he is a great guy to hang out with. i spent some green room time with him. i have gone to forums. i listen to him. i am fascinated with him. i'm not saying he is qualified to be president. i'm not saying he should be president. to be around and the public likes to vote for someone who they can have a beer with.

they like to vote for someone that they are captivated with. >> two things before i let you go the gop base tends to like faith based candidates. they like faithful candidates. and donald told you he is not somebody who turns to god when he has done something that he feels ashamed of. was that the question? >> he is not going to win the nomination because of it. republican primary voters want someone who has a connection to their spirituality and willing to vocalize it and that is not donald trump. >> that was one and the second was the shot at p.o.w.s. you alien ate the military on the gop side if they think you mean that i should qualify, you are in trouble. >> let me give you one statistic. of all different professions in america there is none that is more popular across the board republican and democratic than the veterans and among republicans they are sanktified as they should be.

if you are seen as being antiveteran or antip.o.w. you can't win the election. you know there is a food fight there and talking about what he really thinks of veterans and p.o.w.s. >> we have been meeting and it has moved into the phase where the three anchors and a couple of other folks sit down in a room and we are hammering out our questions. and what these gop candidates would give to be a fly on the wall but they don't get to be. just us. good to see you. >> thank you. >> one of the best things we do. it is exciting. the debate is going to be dynamic. it's going to be huge. it's going to be robust and fox news is going to handle it better than anybody else because that is what we do. a discussion about caitlyn jenner turns into an explosive war of words between ben

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liberal convention for actually saying all lives matter. imagine that? he came out and apologized for saying that. he is sorry. now, outspoken espn analyst steven smith is taking heat himself for defending o'malley's initial remarks tweeting out i'm a black man. of course i know black lives matter. you can't boo a presidential candidate because he says all lives matter. where is the noise about black lives matter when black folks are killing black folks? joining me to discuss it richard fowler and rich lowery who is the editor at national review. those were his tweets. now, of course you have people online calling him an uncle tom saying they lost all respect for him saying he would rather use his influence to parrot antiblack rhetoric than to contribute to communities. he committed i guess the cardinal sin of agreeing that

all lives matter. >> it's completely bizarre. he is of course entirely right. years from now people will be mystified about how one of our major political parties made it a forbidden phrase to say all lives matter. martin o'malley reacted like any normal human being to those protesters and said black lives matter. white lives matter. all lives matter. if you don't agree with that sentiment there is really something wrong with you. >> then his spine got up and walked out of his body when he then apologized for acknowledging the value of all lives, richard. now, a black man -- i believe he has earned the right to have an opinion on the matter comes out and says if black lives matter shouldn't we be concerned about what is happening in our own communities? does it only matter when we are getting killed outside of our community by folks who look differently than us?

that is my point is the truth deal with it. what is wrong with what he said? >> here is the thing. i think in comments where the protesters got upset is the fact that white lives matter. if you hear somebody indicate we know white lives matter. what is in question is for the african-american community is whether black lives matter. you look at the lives of anderson freddie gray. these individuals, their names have been lost because of bad acting police officers or bad acting laws. >> a lot of conclusions with some of those names. >> that is the problem that these protesters are saying saying we understand that white lives matter but black lives should matter and that is what is in question. >> the problem is that is how they feel. that ignores the context of many black people were killed by police over the past year. more white people were killed by police over the past year.

far more white people were. the notion that you get whiteme to listen to the message and try to recognize the problem while you are telling them you can't say that you have a voice, even saying that is irritating to us will shut people down. >> it's going to be mystifying to a lotf opeople if hillary clinton gets on a debate stage and can't say all lives matter. some of these police cases are as hideous as they are portrayed and the police officers deserve to have the book thrown at them. a lot of them are much more complex. some are based entirely on falsehoods like the michael brown case. the problem i have with the slogan black lives matter it comes to a radicalized politicized bullying in these cases that isn't willing to examine the facts objectively and then let the law fall where it may but instead always wants one result. black lives matter.

white lives matter so do police lives. >> what is with richard, the demonization of any black man who dares to say something that is not acceptable to those pushing for change? or something that doesn't sound like liberal dogma. more clarence thomas speaking of the uncle tom charge. it's outrageous what has been said about him, outrageous. now this guy at espn gets the same thing because he dared send out a few thoughtful messages on his own take. >> the idea that black lives matter has been radicalized i think is a farce. what is radical is the fact that african-american unarmed men are being killed by police officers. i said this a couple of times. it doesn't matter if you are black, white or indifferent. just because you are a black man and say something about black men doesn't mean you are a

representative of all black people. they are saying that you don't represent where we are coming from. we believe let's not talk about black on black crimes. >> they are not the only ones with an opinion. they are not the only ones with an opinion. >> exactly. donald trump is not the only one with an opinion. the republican party is shouting him down. like i said donald trump has opinions. >> bullying. >> i was going to say there is a bullying at the heart of this when you are shouting people down for just saying all lives matter that is bullying. when you are calling steven smith horrible names for voicing his opinion on twitter. that is bullying. >> steven does have his spine. >> michael brown we heard for months and months and months -- >> rich what happened to sandra

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they all had no comment, bernie sanders a democratic socialist is the only one that commented but all he said is that he's glad planned parenthood apologized for nine tone of the first videotape. and senate democratic leader harry read did come out and

defend planned parenthood for citing the benefits of human fetal tissue research. >> democrats have fought for a policy that says it is not a life until it leaves the hospital. hillary clinton fought to preserve that policy. >> these politically motivated videos raise questions but nothing i've seen indicates planned parenthood violated laws. >> thank you. >> today 50 u.s. senators called on the feds to investigate planned parenthood. eight states called for investigation, which had some declaring fears on the left grow for planned parenthood. joining me now is dana lash and

the founder of the accountability project. it's surprising to see in the wake of these videos democrats pushed for legislation or investigations into the people who made the video. not -- no problem for what planned parenthood did or the tone. no there is no it was doubling down in favor of the group. >> you're right, megan. they're trying to prevent another acorn from happening. they realize that once congress starts investigating when they start investigating the felony sale of these infant body parts when looking at the possible criminal conspiracy done by these clinics apparently under the order of a medical director and president of the board there, about how they tried to skirt issues so planned parenthood isn't implicated. this is going to call the group public funding into question. they can go the way of acorn.

they sthand a good chance. >> do you think this hurts the pro-choice movement? >> absolutely not. this organization that did this is was a group of right wing activists who called for people to -- illegally created videos to tape these videos in california without consent and doctors over three hours worth of video content. >> nobody made them say this is how i crush them above the thorax, or below, or see that the fetuses are less crunchy. >> poor choice of words. no one is questioning that. this was done in a setting in a professional setting among medical doctors. these weren't messengers of

planned parenthood. it's a personnel issue. >> it's not a shock abortion is legal in this country. what is shocking is the casualness with which they discuss it. >> yes. so you're right. i would disagree in this one instance. she says they're not messengers for planned parenthood i don't know how much more aauthoritative you can get than having the president of the board say these things on camera. >> they didn't know they were on camera. hidden camera. >> they were not doctored. the last two hours. >> you're going to split and shake peoples' screen was that tone. with the last video, 21 seconds apart from the full raw, untouched video. so i want to bring this up quickly. remember when mitt romney had a

47% remark? no one freaked out with the method used to obtain that video but now, it's a concern. >> if you look how people feel about abortion which it comes to second 64% want it to be illegal. that is 12 weeks and therefore. 80% in the third trimester. you've got someone talking about a 17 weeker today. it can be stomach churning even for pro choicers. >> it is. you're right. but let's get back to the original point. >> that is my point. whether it's going to hurt planned parenthood or shoved in peoples' face what's they do and their attitudes in doing it. >> we made several efforts to try to do this in the past. it won't. that is why most news publications said this wasn't a

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from the world headquarters of fox news it's the kelly file, with megyn kelly. >> tonight an eye-opening story from california about an event that started as a discussion about caitlyn jenner being honored. and ended with ben shapiro being in a fierce fight with a helicopter reporter who is transgender. trace gallagher in our west coast newsroom with the story. trace? >> megyn, it happened on dr. drew show on headline news.

the discussion on was whether caitlyn jenner deserved to be awarded the arthur ash award. on the panel was zoe tur and ben shapiro, editor for breitbart and frequent guest on fox news. shapiro said that anyone with male cells and male appendages is a male. here's what happened next. >> so you don't know what you're talking about. you're not educated on genetics. >> that doesn't discuss genetics. >> back to the brain scans. >> you cut that out now or you'll go home in an ambulance. >> that seems mildly inappropriate for a political discussion. >> after the show shapiro claims zoe tur threatened him again and the next day she would like to curb stomp shapiro. zoe tur said the neck grab was merely a love hold. and when tur was asked point-blank if she threatened ben shapiro, she tripled down.

listen. >> were you threatening him? >> no i wasn't. well, maybe i was. yeah, probably. i had had enough. >> tur is accused of tossing anti-semitic insults at ben shapiro saying he comes from a misogynistic cult where women are treated differently and are not allowed to touch men. shapiro has filed a police report against tur alleging battery. tur has seriously laughed it off. megyn? >> let that marinate over the break. we'll be right back. a love affair. a quest. the next horizon. everyone loves the chase. you total your brand new car. nobody's hurt,but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters

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