would it be? wouldn't it be great if there was a planet where if you harbor views that are slightly less than mainstream you're not a nut? what if the mainstream views on that planet are what are odd? and views like well, here, are not? think. hello, everyone. i'm eric bolling along with kimberly guilfoyle,h williams, dana perino and jessie waters. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." at his campaign kickoff donald trump fired up the 2016 race with his comments about illegal immigration. today the republican frontrunner went to the front lines of the debate, our border with mexico, and fielded questions from reporters. >> i think i'll win the hispanic vote. i'm way, way ahead with the hispanics, well into the 30s, and i think second is like 11. so i have a great relationship. over the years thousands and thousands of hispanics have worked for me. the border patrol invited me.

and then they canceled because frankly they don't want to get involved. they invited me then at the last moment we were virtually in the air. they said we can't get involved. i heard they got those orders from washington. i see the unions are very much involved with the border patrols but you have to let them do their job. they want to do their job. that's why they invited me. they invited me. >> are you in favor of a wall? >> oh, yeah. in certain sections you have to have a wall, absolutely. by the way the wall the wall will save you a tremendous amount of money. >> and it didn't stop there. >> feel that what you've said when you said that the people who cross the border are rapists and murderers. >> no, no, no. we're talking about illegal immigration. that's a typical case ofs press with misinterpretation. deal with telemundo. they should be ashamed. what's really going to be fun, i'm right now suing univision for $500 million. we're going to win a lot of

money to do the work. no, no. you're finished. you've obviously been -- 2hkrñ we are -- that was a hostile crowd in two different places. i don't know. me i like the way he handled it. >> i like the way he moves his hands and dismisses people like that. you could see it all coming. i love it. the guy owns the crowd. he's moguling everybody. it's ridiculous. it's a spectacle and it's interesting to watch. i'm afraid to criticize trump now. because i think he's going to hand out my cell phone. i don't want to do that. i'm a little nervous about that. but people say is trump hurting the republican party with hispanics? maybe he is. but you know what? they have not really done that well with hispanics. how low can you go? i think romney lost 71-27 last time. i think he may be alienateing

hispanics but he's helping the republican party with blue-collar working class americans. americans that want a border wall that don't want illegal aliens running around these sanctuary cities and killing people. so i don't think the issue is whether the republicans are losing hispanics. i think the democrat party is losing blue-collar working class men. >> okay, dana, he got off the airplane, waved, went and visited the border. came to the microphone. and i was shocked that he just said, let's go. questions. and he was -- there were some hostile people in that audience. >> he's always going to have that. here's the thing. i think that in six weeks he's improved as a candidate. and it's hard to compliment him because nobody compliments himself more than himself. but he actually -- he's having fun on the trail. do you remember newt gingrich used to go after the press. the republican voters loved that. he'd go after the media. like yeah, you stick it to them. they love it. i have a quibble with the hat. i think it looked really bad. the hat wasn't great although he was in character.

this is actually, though, the annual pilgrimage by some politician or other to the border. last july we had a big problem on the border with all the children coming across and president obama went to texas for a fun[qm$ 9ñ did not schedule a stop at the border so rick perry invited him. rick perry goes to the border. here's the thing they think he's tapping into. he talked a little bit more specifically about the wall today which was one of my complaints in the beginning so generalized. are we going to build a wall? today he was like the wall makes sense in certain places. that's true. so i think he's actually improved as a candidate. he's having more fun. he's getting a little bit more specific. and he's willing to take questions whereas a lot of people on the democratic side -- i should just say the one, hk hillary clinton, doesn't take questions at all. >> the border agents the union had invited him and then they backed out at the last minute. where do you think that came from? the back out of the union? >> it came from the idea they were endorsing donald trump.

they said they were very clear that they are not endorsing anybody. so the union's interest was, they want to get more border agents hired. they want more staff. they want more budget. >> they need more help. >> i don't agree. but that's what they want, right? that's what they want for their self-interests. but their self-interests, then, crossed a line when it appeared that they were endorsing donald trump. >> they didn't think about that when they invited him? >> apparently not. >> or do you say is it possible one of the other candidates said or someone else got to them and said listen. >> possibly the federal government. >> good point. >> the federal government who pays the salaries is probably saying let's not get involved in the political circus that is down there. >> you can't tell the union what to do. but i think it became apparent that at this point it's a little bit like they're crossing a line. and that they're putting themselves in a negative light with their bosses. >> i think he did well. look everybody at this table was all smiles. that was pretty amazing, right? except for the hat. dana says the hat. well, look, he's not afraid to

take questions. he's changing a little bit of the way that politics is done and proceeds in this country. because he is being a little bit more straightforward. he's kind of unplugged. now, whether or not that's going to prove to be successful, let's see. but he isn't shying away from the issues. and he's continuing to ask the questions. where is hillary clinton? >> that's what i wanted to ask you right there. juxtapose donald trump's comfortable nature at the podium with a very hostile press versus a hillary who i don't know her delivery when she's talking to people is just so off putting. it's almost like nails on a chalkboard at times. >> she's got like a taser belt. she's shooting barbs at people. >> don't take my b block. >> this guy says you're finished and you like that. >> that's the way to answer questions. >> he already answered the questions. >> he introduced the mayor of laredo who talked for a couple of minutes. he took the microphone back and he fielded questions. there were hecklers. he handled hecklers guys

better than anyone i've ever seen handle hecklers. >> would you rather have -- he didn't size up reporters juan. at least he answers the questions. >> he didn't answer any questions. >> yes, he did. the guy asked him a question and then he tried to comment again with more heckling. he said no, no, you're finished. you've had your time. >> he didn't ask a question. >> let's rewrite it. >> he didn't answer the question. all the stuff about the wall what nonsense. it's crazy. we have five times more border agents than ten years ago. we have tons of money. [ overlapping speakers ] >> the wall is not an issue. >> it is an issue for the republican base that you were talking about, jesse. you invented a word today. i love it. >> what? >> moguling. you guys say he did so well at the podium. he was moguling. he was like i got no time for you, press. [ overlapping speakers ] >> he took the heckler and said,

look, i don't know about that. i'll look into it and moved on. anyway, let's do this. trump at the top of the polls. but he says the rnc has yet to support him in a new interview he raised the possibility of leaving the gop to launch a third party bid if the committee is unfair to him in the primary season. he was asked about it today at the border. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i'm a republican. i'm a conservative. i'm running. i'm in first place by a lot, it seems, according to polls. i want to run as a republican. i think i'll get the nomination. we'll see soon enough. but i think i'll get the nomination. the best way to win is for me to get the nomination and run probably against hillary. >> we'll get to that discussion in just a minute. but among his gop competitors there's mixed reaction on the donald. >> he's bold and brash and he's willing to speak the truth. and he's taking on the

washington cartel. i've been proud to defend him for focusing on illegal immigration. >> he offers a barking carnival act that can best be described as trumpism. a toxic mix of demagoguery and mean-spiritedness and nonsense. donald trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism, and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded. >> all right kg, there was a poll -- >> he sounds like a cancer surgeon. >> let's go with the third party idea, right? abc did a poll, abc-"washington post," i believe. if there were a third party, donald trump, he would only get about 20% of the vote. jeb would get 30. hillary would be a clear landslide winner at 46. your thoughts on if he would do that. >> listen. he's floating the idea saying listen if you don't show me proper respect to the rnc, which has not been supportive or been behind him i'm going to do this on my own. you got one way to make this

work, which is invite me in the tent, treat me well in the primary season or i'll go out on my own. do we know if he'll do that? no. we can call the psychic network friends to find out. he believes he's the best one to beat hillary clinton in the general election his message. >> he spoke to dana lohse earlier today. he also at the border said he's the frontrunner, why are we even talking about third party. he makes a lot of sense. i happen to think he starts floating this idea, juan, of third party i'll lose a lot of support. even the base won't put up with that. >> i don't know. i think 20% would just be about a historic high. that's what we saw lasty÷y time an independent ran. took votes away from george h.w. bush. >> proves to be a clear win for hillary, though. >> i think it would be. but i don't think he can beat hillary if he stays in. he right now i was last week thinking oh, after the whole atake on mccain we're going to see his numbers drop precipitously. well there was a poll done

today rasmussen has him more favorably viewed than mccain. so i don't expect now that his poll numbers are going to drop. but i thought what you saw there from rick perry was interesting. the politics of it. because i think rick perry, cruz clearly thinks he can inherit trump's base if trump goes away. that's what's going on there. he's positioning himself. perry is positioning himself to take advantage of all the media attention to donald trump and get into the debate. >> kind of what donald trump did when he got in started taking shots at the frontrunner, jeb, and garnered a lot of attention. can i stay on third party for a second? >> sure. >> big mistake third rail for him, right? >> it's only been five weeks. if you're trying to win the hearts and minds of republican voters across america record numbers said they wouldn't vote for him five weeks from now. it's not the way to ensure you are uniteding a divided party. that is not going to help. because right now people are looking at 17 possible choices. and if they think that you're

going to cut and run as soon as you may be think about flirting with supporting him they're not going to stick around. the other thing in terms of -- if people like the style it's not my style but if they like it if they like the fight, i think what rick perry showed is that he's willing to do the same. so his speech, it was a solid speech. and i actually think that in some ways i think donald trump even respected rick perry rpz willingness to fight back. >> trump is apugilist. you're playing with fire there. rosy o'donnell he used to tear her limb to limb in broad daylight? he made fun of rick perry's glasses and -- >> he made fun of anderson cooper. >> he didn't deserve that. >> you sticking up for cooper? >> yeah. false premise and he corrected him. that's all. >> it's one thing to correct him, another thing to say you're

ugly too. >> when newt did it to above everybody love -- to wolf everybody loved it. >> i didn't. >> i was shocked to see dan rainshower dan rather said oh the media needs to give more coverage to donald trump. >> that's what he wants. he would like nothing more. >> devious democrats at work, america. >> hillary's underwater in three swing states. deeply underwater and no one even knows about it. >> somebody put out an apb for her. >> where is she? >> we're going to because we're going to the b block. don't worry. >> hillary clinton avoids the press at all costs and a top editor at the "new york times" thinks that's a good thing. coming up next on "the five." i heard i could call angie's list

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many in the press have voiced frustration about the lack of access to hillary clinton who physically roped off reporters earlier this month, incredibly. but the editorial page+ppz editor of the "new york times" thinks her stone walling of the media that it's really a smart strategy. >> this is going to sound rather strange coming from a journalist. but she's also ignoring the press which i don't think is such a terrible idea. i don't think her not talking to the press is an issue.

and you can always tell when a candidate is doing a good job of setting her own agenda because there's stories by the press writing about other people in the press complaining about other people in the press that don't get close enough to the candidate. really sincerely who cares? >> so the "new york times" thinking hillary clinton is doing a great job not talking to the press. is that surprising? >> well, i mean, maybe the "new york times" guy likes being tied up by hillary. maybe he's kinky like that. i have no idea. >> jesse watters. >> i don't know what he's into. it seems like he's into that kind of thing. he should want answers, right? seems like the "new york times" cares more about rubio's boat than hillary bringing like boat loads of money laundering it through her own foundation. >> so that's the editorial page editor. they did break a couple of those stories. >> they didn't break it. they were shopped to it by schweitzer who gave it to them with a bow tie around it. you can't say on one hand on the one page of the "new york times" the obama administration super secretive, least transparent, they don't respect the press.

then the next day say it's okay if hillary doesn't talk to us. can't have it both ways. >> i don't totally disagree with him that it's not working for her. because she stays high in the polls. she doesn't really have that much competition. bernie sanders. >> he's not a good candidate. so we're going to have people vote for someone who sucks as a candidate and we expect her going to be good as a president of the united states. because they cannot answer questions. it they are not transparent. they don't invite any kind of open discussion or dialogue with the press or anybody else. that's an elitist strategy. that's not what we're representing here in the united states of america. so that's what people have to ask yourself. is this who you want? a president that's going to be in hiding? >> do you know what is amazing? you are channelling one of our favorites, charles krauthammer who had this to say last night. >> she still doesn't have real opponents who are going to challenge her for the nomination in the end. but we've gotten to see her. and it turns out that the more you see her the more her numbers go down. that's a definition of a weak candidate. >> and eric he was talking

specifically about the poll that you brought up, quinnipiac looking at three swing states colorado, iowa and virginia, saying that actually her numbers are going down in all of those states. >> in a massive way. where she used to be above water she is now in some i believe in some of the states she's 20 points underwater favorability. it's incredible. so i think the "new york times" person was right as far as strategy goes. but not right as far as a reporter goes. that's their job is to get the information out. let's hear what the candidates have to say. the problem with hillary is every time she does talk her poll numbers go down. she's not becoming -- you watch donald trump. say he's becoming a better candidate over time. hillary is going in the opposite direction. you can hear -- there's almost a disdain in her voice. like she's being annoyed that she has to talk right now. and it's a very almost aggravated delivery. it sounds like she just doesn't want to be there doesn't feel she has to be there. she wants to let's hurry up and

get this over and get right to the general election. because after all as you point out she's still massively popular among democrats. >> and juan, the democratic party might just have to go to the election with a democratic candidate that they have. i mean, she might not change in that regard. >> she's very popular among democrats. i don't think anybody at the/xkgzi f o table is going to say oh, no i see somebody else challenging. bernie sanders nowhere near. spiked up to 15%. hillary is almost 60%. so there's a big difference here. the second thing is -- >> that's who they think can win. i don't think they're in love with her. well, we'd like to see another democrat in the white house. >> exactly. she can win. at least to my next point, which is that we talk about these three states quinnipiac poll which is not by the way consistent with most polls. but there still is not one republican who beats hillary head-to-head nation-wide. not one. >> not yet. >> but they're split among 17. can i ask you something jesse i heard today from a democrat? that hillary clinton's camp is

actually has somebody they're worried about on the republican side and he entered the race on tuesday. governor john kasich of ohio. >> i don't believe anything coming out of the clinton camp. who they're worried about. it's misinformation. we overheard what was his name the other day like a walmart talking about who they were worried about rubio? i don't trust it. i do think that hillary has the personality problem. >> it's all planted? >> yeah. i think hillary has a personality problem like eric said. people vote for the person they want to have a beer with. no one wants to have a beer with hillary. only if bill was invited maybe. like last week, she unveiled her platform. it's basically open boards, i'm going to raise taxes and i support iranian nuclear deal. those are all losers. >> something else she's for she talked about it today in south carolina when she was trying to explain why should she be president of the united states. here's one of the things she said. >> clearly i'm not asking people to vote for me simply because i'm a woman. i'm asking people to vote for me on the merits. and i think one of the merits is i am a woman!

>> see how that works, kimberly? >> well i'm glad we were reminded that she's a woman. glad that's out in the open now. what else is her point? i would never leave lead with that. you should vote for me because i'm a woman and we need a female president. that seems to be like her best talking point when she emerges from hiding. >> it might work. >> be smooth about it. obama didn't say vote for me because i'm black. he was a little more nuanced about it. >> being black is one of the merits of a president. >> born black and hillary was born a woman. but i mean like she has the gender card. she can't even play it well right? how awkward is that? >> juan think that is most women in america including republican women -- do you still believe this? >> yes, i do. >> juan and i have had this ongoing argument. he thinks that republican women are going to go and vote for hillary because she's a woman over the republican candidate. >> you're out of your mind again out of his mind. >> i'm not sure that i'm right about older republican women. >> got that fact.

>> among younger republican women no doubt. this comes from conversations with because i'm in washington a lot women who work in the congress. and they're just like wow a woman president. so you say oh, why is she mentioning she's a woman kimberly? i think she'd be stupid. she was stupid last time. like a black person who says i want to pretend that race is not an issue in america. i just want you to look at my character. wait a second. >> juan, i did not say she shouldn't remind us that she's female. what i'm saying is it shouldn't be the lead that. shouldn't be her main qualification to say, you know, check the box for gender. >> i don't think it has to be her main qualification. [ overlapping speakers ] >> that quote of hers goes back to the original point of this the more she talks she's not like the best candidate. she's not playing those cards right. got great cards to play and she doesn't play them well. >> if it's not that then what would be her best qualification for being president? >> you want me to show you the polls? >> the qualifications.

>> americans trust her in terms of and beating a republican. >> that's not what any of those polls show. >> they don't trust her -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> we are going to call a doctor and we will have juan checked out in the next break. nancy pelosi made her first public remarks on planned parenthood since video surfaced of employees talking about selling body parts of unborn babies. the top democrat in the house is outraged. but not about the allegations. her twist on that scandal next.

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ever-growing bank account and american taxpayers must be severed. >> every american should watch these videos and just ask the question, are these my values? now what should we be doing? we need to prosecute planned parenthood, and also we need to cut off every penny of taxpayer funding. >> for the top democrat in the house that is no interest in digging deeper into the revelations. nancy pelosi wants the people who exposed planned parenthood investigated. >> everybody's calling for an investigation of planned parenthood. let's have an investigation of those people who were trying to ensnare planned parenthood in a controversy that doesn't exist. >> it's unbelievable. if eric holder were still there they'd already have this investigation launched. dana, your thoughts. >> i thought that was a classic move by nancy pelosi. i have a question what could they be investigated for? did they break a law? >> potentially, yes.

that's why you have to do the investigation to see what laws they might have violated. when you see something like that -- >> i mean the videomakers. >> not the videomakers. i'm saying planned parenthood. what about planned parenthood? what laws did they break? >> doj announced an investigation into the videomaker. >> the problem is i don't see that there's any law that they broke. the investigation should be on the flip side to what planned parenthood has done. >> let me offer you a suggestion from the psychoward as she was putting me in the last thing, they have nonprofit status with the irs. guess why? because they said that they were created to do investigations into buying medical research on fetal tissue and the like, didn't they? >> what is your point? >> the only thing we've seen so far they go out and do videos intended to besmirch the reputation. >> to look into what's happening. potential investigation into

this. that's what their in fact doing. you see it one way. you say they're doing this to besmirch of the reputation of planned parenthood who is caught on tape selling body parts of unborn babies. can you stomach that, juan? you're totally fine with it? you're more worried about hurting feelings of people of planned parenthood who areplanned parenthood versus the actual atrocities that are going on. i don't get it. >> let me just say i think anytime anybody has an abortion it's a sad, terrible situation, okay? but what we're talking about here is fetal tissue being used for medical#@jñ research that actually helps to cure disease, to help us better understand illnesses in this world. that helps you and me kimberly. >> can i recommend something? amy otto at the federalist, she's one of the writers. she has a really good, important piece reminding all of us that one of the things scientists

have been able to do is create cells that allow you to do the same type of research that you could do with illegal baby parts. you can actually create that in a lab without having to destroy life. >> right. >> this is the same conversation we had am stem cell research a long time ago. >> science has advanced beyond that. so should our morals. >> you're trying to make it innocent to say advancing medicine. what i'm saying to you is there is a direct financial incentive built in then forplanned parenthood if they're getting money for these parts, the more abortions and pregnancies that are terminated, the more body parts, the more they're able to sell. do you understand that that is a flawed model? >> reprehensible. >> it's not necessary to do this because the science exists to be able to do it in a way that is humane that doesn't involve butchering babies. >> my gosh. let's stop with this. >> stop the nonsense juan. >> dana's point about she thinks there are ways to do this research. my point to you, kimberly --

>> she doesn't think she knows. >> my point to you is that the national institutes of health, the whole medical establishment in this country, knows that this is a key element in terms of research. that using tissue. and the tissue is donated by women. >> they're also talking about violating the approved means of performing abortions so they can create what's called a body bag by collapsing the two ends and pinching off so they can preserve more of the organs to make more money off dead babies. >> they don't make any money. >> oh, juan, therein lies the problem right there. if it's true that what they're claiming that they're performing these abortions and with the fetal tissue that ends up being there for them that the only money that they take is to holdance transport the fetal tissue, that's what they're claiming. >> that's right. >> that's not what that video says. that lady said i need to know how much it's going to take to get my lamborghini.

i need to know how much you're willing to pay. >> that was a bad, tasteless joke. >> when she started the conversation, how much are you willing to pay? you get that? >> eric you don't understand. there is a business in this country in terms of fetal tissue. there's no question about that. you're right. >> the business is not about profit. that's the key point. are they profiting? >> are they doing it at a loss? >> that is the issue. we're going to take juan's blindfold off. >> first let me do a mogul. >> hillary clinton. >> you don't look like hillary. >> my god hillary you look tremendous today in coral. it is unfortunate that planned parenthood had been the object of such a concerted attack for so many years. it's truly an attack against women's rights to choose. so i am hoping that this situation will not further

undermine the very important services that you've been saying that planned parenthood provides. >> this is what the left does, though, when they're under attack and their people are under attack. they circle the wagons and they try to kill the messenger. they did that with the acorn videos targeted bright bart and o'keefe. they targeted the videomaker. remember they've gone after whistleblowers more than any other administration out there. but you know what all of a sudden their people expose things. if someone exposes police misconduct. oh, they're a hero. when someone exposes the 47% romney video hero. you know, you can't have it both ways. obviously what this person did was expose something hideous, juan. i think everybody agrees with that. so you can't all of a sudden say go after the messenger when actually you should be appalled by the conduct of planned parenthood. >> you know first of all on the acorn video, i think a lot of people said what they were up to was corrupt and wrong and illegal. but you can't tell people how to

evade the law. that's different than what's going on here. that was liberal and conservatives. and there were some people who tried to be defenders. they're just about gone, acorn, because of that incident. i don't think yo ráqq he medical establishment pull away from planned parenthood or the idea of research on fetal tissue. >> see people not defend planned parenthood because planned parenthood gets democrats elected. >> planned parenthood is very exceedingly political. one of the things they did today was about sandra bland case which is a tragic case in texas. it's under investigation. they said, we are going to stand by her and all the other black women who have been killed in police custody. we do not know what happened in that jail cell. and if she committed suicide if she had mental illness. her family says she doesn't. there's an investigation there. but planned parenthood in order to try to find a different way to get off of this story was tweeting about that today. and avoiding answering the tough questions that are brought up by this investigation. >> in fact the report show that is she committed suicide. >> i think this is going to be -- this potentially could be

a bigger issue for the entire 2016 campaign. because of these videos. who does that benefit? the people who are energized by it. republicans. >> babies. >> well babies' lives matter. how about that juan? new york's mayor blinks in a standoff with uber. he's still threatening. next how a bunch of celebrities are helping uber fight him. stay tuned. tweezers. (buzz!) (buzz!) if you're the guy from the operation game, you get operated on. it's what you do. (buzz!) if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance you switch to geico. it's what you do.

a win for capitalism and with the help of hollywood, no less. new york city's mayor has agreed to suspend his effort to cap the number of uber cars on city streets. the decision comes amid backlash on social media from celebrities like ashton kutcher kate upton and neil patrick harris. but bill deblasio promises this fight isn't over yet. >> why did you cave? >> well, we haven't. what we said is here's a limit they agreed to for a period of time so we can study four

months. at the end of four we retain all our options. if we decide we need a cap we go in that direction. >> to hollywood makes them buckle. we want to fix new york's homeless problem de niro to tell deblasio. >> i love it when the left saves the left from itself. i don't know if people who were watching "cbs this morning" are exactly interested in what's happening here in new york city for the number of cabs. i think this comes back down to economic freedom. and the genius of the campaign from uber was not to focus on like fancy people that get to drive uber but actually the people who are getting job and employing themselves. maybe it's a second job. whatever it is. they're actually happy employees of uber. like they're their ownol businessmen. economic freedom is what people are looking for. >> the mayor says it's about fighting traffic. we know it's cow towing to the union taxi guys and making sure cars don't pollute and we all

ride mass transit. >> there is so much graft and corruption that goes from these unions right into these political campaigns. probably millions of dollars comes from various sources making sure that they protect their -- keep competition out. dana is right. economic freedom drop the walls of competition. prices come down. it's good for everybody. especially not only the people who are getting the jobs, the people who are being picked up. again -- >> it's cheaper than the taxi. i've investigated this. >> you can call a uber and they'll come to the bronx and come to harlem and pick you up whereas the yellow cab won't. >> not passing you by on the street. >> like they can't see you? woo who's that? this is good because it brings people into the city. it's good for the economy. this guy doesn't even have any business sense. i'm struggling to find one redeeming good quality or value of big bird. >> and we know that you don't ever take the subway. you're always -- >> i did take it.

>> you took it once and there was almost a riot. >> took it once with me. >> six inch heels and mini skirts rolling down the subway. >> i don't wear mini skirts. >> aren't democrats supposed to be the party of technology and progress? but just like the president can't launch a web site. they want to take over the internet. hillary is going after uber. deblasio is going after uber. what's with you guys? >> you know what this is about? this is about money. it's about medallions for cabs, right? and from my perspective it has kept people out of the tax ayeaxi cab business as drivers because they can't afford. the prices used to cost 1 million now down to 700,000. >> it got up there. >> now it's back down to $700,000. >> why eric bought medallion. >> why is it taxi medallion a million -- think about that for a second. a million dollars. how about a free market?

how about no medallions? >> i'm just trying to make the point here that what you see the mayor doing is reflecting the interests of people who already own a medallion, don't want to see that value plummet, and they're trying to protect their own self-interest. >> go to deblasio and say make sure to get uber out. >> he's on the side of corruption, basically. [ overlapping speakers ] >> alienated everybody, okay? the entire country. everybody hates him. [ overlapping speakers ] >> best part of the segment is you're on the side of the celebrities and i discovered that you are on the subway. >> i was on the subway. a series of crimes that were committed. a lot of molestation. what not. >> more aboutum that after the break. remember "space jam" the basketball team blockbuster from the 1990s starring michael jordan? there are major rumors swirling around about a sequel. we'll tell you which nba great can star in it this time around next.

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>> ready? >> i got it. i got it. >> coming your way. >> well, that film was a monster success. and now, nearly 20 years later, a reboot may be in the works. according to rumor, lebron james is going to star in the sequel. so let me go to my basketball experts. >> k.g. >> so here's the deal. >> yes ma'am. >> for sure i'm all in on michael jordan. i think he's one of the greatest 8ápáhletes of all time. lebron? i'm with your kids on this when i say that sometimes you have lost championships. you have lacked consistency. and you drink like those little mint drinks at nobu that are a little disturbing. >> you've seen this. >> well, i'm just telling you. >> okay. so dana, are you going to the movies if you have lebron james? >> i don't go to the movies, i

don't want cartoons and i know nothing about basketball. >> that's why we're asking you. >> here's what i like. it is said that lebron wants to invest in a movie-making company or to get into entertainment. what i love is the diversification of the talent and looking to create jobs and reinvestment which is better than his money going to the government. >> so now we go to people who know too much about sports and we begin with you, jesse. does this make sense? lebron or michael jordan? >> it's not even close. jordan undefeated in championships. six rings. would have had eight if he didn't play baseball for the two years. lebron's 2-4. lost for times. it's embarrassing. the only rings he got were two when he went to miami and won them with bosh and wade. jordan ref jordan revolutionized the game. he was poetic to watch. lebron doesn't have that game. he's kind of a brute. he doesn't have the killer instinct. >> another expert. make a pick, eric. >> i think jesse is right.

i grew up watching michael jordan. remember they won the championship, then a repeat then the three-peat. they did it again. repeat the three-peat. you're right. jordan pippens dennis rodman, they were a team. >> larry bird. >> stop it. i think lebron james is as good of an athlete as michael jordan is or was. he just doesn't have -- doesn't make his teammates better. >> doesn't have the mental edge that jordan had. >> this is a bar thing is broken out here. but guess what. one more thing is coming at you. hang with us.

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time for one more thing. dana kicks it off. >> dana's tech tips. brought to you by greg gutfeld unicorn. a bison in yellowstone national park attacked a woman. when you are a 43-year-old woman, do not try to take a selfie with the bison behind you when there's no fence. because the bison came up. we actually don't even have a picture because she wasn't able to get the picture. so when you're at the national park, do not try to get pictures with an animal. just take a picture without the selfie. >> toes are just pictures of three bison? >> one's missing. >> i did not step up my one more thing game enough. [ overlapping speakers ] >> but thing is that this woman wasn't able to make a picture.

we can't say her name for -- whatever. >> all right. all right. >> i will do better tomorrow. >> now we come to the better one more thing. which is a kiss and make up between two pop stars taylor swift and nicki minaj. this feud starts when nikki made a video "anna kanda" that broke ought kind of records for viewing. she didn't get a video nomination for video of the year. that winter to that went to taylor. she said black women can't win inb% they made up today. an exchange of twitter that said we love each other. it was just a misunderstanding. the world is safe. >> that was a better one? >> go ahead, kimberly. >> mine is by far superior to both of you. mine involves paula abdul and recreating the video from the past. looks like the attack of the giant women there. opposites attract video with james corden. he dressed up like m.c. scat

cat. can you show this? >> oh, i love that song. ♪ >> my girl's still got it. that was a picture from before. very cute. >> go ahead, jess. >> all right. well, we always knew that norwegians were crazy. now we have proof. roll it. >> listen, never fall asleep in front of your friends. >> what happens if you jump into it? >> i don't want to find out. >> you got startled. >> they're crazy. i told you. >> so we don't have time for mine so i'll forego it. we have a tie right now. >> no, no, no. mine was the best one. >> between dana and juan? let me tell you, juan, dana's going to win. >> tomorrow you guys have to bring the a game.

>> the thing is dana is so cute. how can she lose? >> tomorrow i'm going to read all the tweets to juan about all the women from the republican party who said they will not vote for hillary just because she's a woman. >> yeah, juan. >> we have to say goodbye. "special report" on deck coming up now. fleeced and bam booze willed. tough words from senators telling the president's top diplomat that only the most naive people on earth think the iran nuclear deal is a good deal for the u.s. leading to some fireworks in the senate hearing room. this is "special report." >> geerngs well to washington. i'm bret baier. secretary of state john kerry says the idea the u.s. could have held out for a better deal with iran over its nuclear program is a fantasy. but critics of the deal grilled him today during the first congressional hearing into the agreement. chief washington correspondent james rosen has tonight's top story from the white house.