m cruise and jimmy fallon in epic lip-sync battle. recreating a scene out of the movie "top gun." made her night. bill: fallon can do it. crews, we'll see. martha: good-bye everybody. jenna: president obama assessing his own performance at the white house as he looks to the future. welcome to "happening now," i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. the president talking up democracy on his trip to africa. he weighed in on his own term limits and made an interesting comment about 2016. >> under our constitution i can not run again. [applause] i can't run again. i actually think i'm a pretty good president. i think if i can i could win. but i can't. jon: joining us now, emily tish

sussman campaign director for center of american progress action fund who worked on president obama's 2008 campaign. mary catherine ham, from hotair.com. author of end of discussion. and fox news contributor. welcome to both of you. emily, emily he you worked on his first campaign, if he was running again in 2016 would you volunteer again? >> i would go right back in. i think a lot of the country would be there with him. however you feel about the president i think there is no question he is winning the war of ideas and winning the rhetoric. can diets from both sides of the aisle are starting to use, this big populist moment which the president capitalized from the beginning that has been the core of his economic begin today. even republican candidates are using phrases like income inequality wage stagnation. everybody is using these ideas. i think the question for 2016 is going to be, do people believe candidates have policy that back this up.

republicans have not shown that so far. so will people really believe it. that is the big question. jon: mary catherine, i have a feeling you have something different. >> one, easy to say you win when you can't run. just like clinton or bush, and giver the american people that opportunity, good lord america. anyway, i think look he is good at speaking. i think he is really good running for president. i think the american people disagree with the fact that he is a great president or a pretty good president. one of the ways he is not winning the war of ideas is where you see polling over and over again saying people trust local and state governments to solve problems more than the federal government in bigger numbers than they ever have before. that is an idealogical loss for him and people who believe what he believes. which is that the federal government should be in charge of solving these problems. jon: on that score, emily, there was a big article out i think in the "new york times" a couple weeks ago, no,

"the wall street journal," about the bench strength of democratic parity. it said in local and state offices around the country, democrats are getting hammered. >> democrats do need to show up. they need to be focused on elections. i gill i have to republicans. this is something they focused on much longer and more deeply than democrats have, is supporting those running down the ticket. i think when we see the ideas that democrats are running on like raising the minimum wage when we see those on the ballot, those do very very well. there is no question about it, democrats need to do better job turning out voters and inciting voters to show up in non-presidential years. jon: mary catherine what about obamacare, that is his signature achievement s that a win or negative for this president? >> many people see it negatively as you see in polling. there are parts they see isolated as good which democrats make that point and it's a fair point but problem is you built the worst jinga tower in

legislative history to create a system where a couple things people like but they get hurt in many, many other ways. none of the promises were kept. that is the problem. when the prices go up and when you do lose your insurance people react to that. now the thing about president obama that surprised me frankly a little bit, this was his number one priority and this is when it comes to being a good president and good leader he did not seem to be in the captain's seat on that. he did not make a plan nor making that actually work. at least not least of which was the governor governor debach quell which is somewhat repaired at this point after billion dollars spent. that is the kind of cost benefit analysis you're looking at and it is not great. jon: one of the interesting things, emily, maybe our control room will be able to play it again, when the president made the first remark about the under other constitution i can't run again there was awful lot of applause in the back of the room. >> they were excited for whatever he was going to be talking about. look, if you want to talk about obamacare i think it is important to bring it up. people are actually feeling the

impacts now. there was an election run on the referendum of whether people liked obamacare or not. that was basically 2012. the president was reelected but i think the biggest way that obamacare is going to play into the 2016 elections is that republicans specifically at federal level have really been banking on the fact they could just, keep having repeal votes. they could keep talking about this death spiral that would occur. now it is settled by the supreme court. obamacare is law. it is not going anywhere. so now republicans actually have to own up to that. they have to say i sold you a false bill of goods. i told you it would create a death spiral and it did not. people will start to question federal whether they can believe them or not. jon: well, the president did win reelection but i would point out the democrats lost majority in the senate. let's play the first part of the president's remarks and let our viewers decide what is going on in the back of the room. >> under our constitution i can not run again. [applause]

i can't run again. jon: there we go. all right, mary catherine, the last word on this topic. >> i think when it comes to obamacare and his legacy the death spiral and the elements that would create it still exist even though the supreme court sort of rewrote the law in order to make it constitutional. then the other problem is when you promise people health care, you have to actually give them health care. you can't say you did it and pat yourself on the back. we vision shoes, for instance in california where you dumped millions of new people on medicaid system that was not working. that is actually not helping people even though you're saying you're helping people. when it comes down to it, when the rucker meets the road you have to actually help them this was democratic plan, thrown a bunch of people off their plans. paying a bunch more money and not seeing evidence of it. jon: mary catherine ham, emily sussman, thank you vich. jenna: information on another big story, the irs targeting scandal.

jason chaffetz calls for the firing of irs chief john koskinen, saying the hid of the tax agency lied to congress and obstructed its investigation into the irs targeting of conservative groups. kristin is live in washington with more on this. >> reporter: jenna this is basically about all the missing emails from lois lerner the former irs official at center of allegations that the irs targeted tea party groups applying for non-profit status. what congressman chaffetz is saying the current head of the irs failed to preserve and produce missing emails even after a subpoena had been issued. accusing him of making false statements to congress and repeatedly obstructing federal investigations. serious charges. that's why chaffetz asked yesterday for president obama to fire him. >> you can't come to congress give false statements and keep your job. congress has duty and responsibility to get after him and hold him accountable. that may include a variety of different remedies but he lied to congress. >> reporter: irs said the chief

has done nothing wrong and has been cooperative and truthful throughout all the investigations. in a statement the irs said it produced more than one million pages and documents in support of the investigation provided 52 current an former employees for interviews and participated in more than 30 congressional hearings on these issues but chaffetz said that is not good enough. he wants die heated e mailings from lois lerner or someone held accountable for their deletion. chaffetz said if the president won't fire him congress will either through contempt proceedings or possible impeachment. jenna? jenna: we'll see what the next step is. kristin, thank you. jon: now this fox news alert. the woman aaccused of helping two killers escape from a maximum security prison pleads guilty in court moments ago. the clinton county district attorney is about to hold a news conference. you see them readying the podium there to discuss the plea agreement reached with joyce mitchell to which she just pled guilty. the former prison employee is

accused bringing tools to prisoners richard matt and david sweat to help them escape. that sparked a massive manhunt that covered much of state of the new york. rick leventhal is on the story live from the courthouse in plattsburgh, new york, with details. rick? >> reporter: jon we expect to hear more from d.a. andrew wiley shortly who could shed light on plea agreement. we were in court moments ago when joyce mitchell pled guilty to two counts against her, felony count for promoting prison contraband and criminal facilitation. she had tears in her eyes at one point when she signed an agreement to waive her right to grand jury. she waived obviously her right to trial as well. what we don't know how much time she will actually face. her sentencing is set for september 28th. wiley reiterated court she faces to 7 and a third years and one year on the misdemeanor count. he expects her to pay total of 6,000-dollars in fines.

she has been charged with aiding the escape of david sweat and richard matt who broke out clinton correctional facility and were on the run for 23 days. mitch chill was shackled at hands and fight. didn't say a whole lot and when she did speak she was very quiet in open court. she admitted investigators in the role getting the men hacksaw blades a chisel and other tools, hiding some of it in hamburger meat and some in cardboard she was able to smuggle with the help of at least one prison corrections officer allegedly able to smuggle those tools to these two men so could saw and cut their way out of prison. she was expected to be getaway driver and got cold feet and wound up checking herself into a hospital. her husband lyle was in court. he was sitting two seats away from me. when the person next to me asked a question he blew up on them. i have nothing to say. do not bother me. i have had enough of your lies. you do not print the truth. do not bother me. i offered lyle a chance to tell

his story on fox news channel. he said he could not. he said he said that because of my work i can not say nothing to nobody. lyle just left the court. we expect to hear from the d.a. andrew wiley shortly about what this plea deal might be. the judge may sentence joyce mitchell to the minimum of two and a third years. we won't know until september 28th when she is officially sentenced, jon. jon: the news conference with the district attorney coming up we'll monitor that as well. rick leventhal thank you. much more on this case when we bring your legal panel in for a discussion about joyce mitchell and other matters. jenna: we'll turnover seas now. turkey stepping up its role in the battle against isis with airstrikes against the terror group. now nato holding a rare emergency meeting. we'll be live with the story and what it means for us. plus a wild police chase that lasted hours. what sparked it and the dramatic way it ended, we'll show you. we want to hear from you. the president thinks he is has been a pretty good president.

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strong solidarity with turkey and condemned terrorist attacks against that country. john huddy live in middle east burr rewith more on this. john? >> reporter: turkey requested the rare emergency meeting, by the way the fifth in nato's history under article iv of its treaty. article iv essentially allow as country to call for emergency meetings, consultations with other countries if that particular country feels its security is in danger. that is obviously the case here with turkey today. nato alliance members met in belgium to discuss the isis and recent terrorist attacks. secretary-general expressed condolences with the victims of those attacks and nato stands in solidarity with turkey. part of the discussion focused on turkey attacks with the kurdish rebels, pkk, kurdistan workers party in northern iraq. pkk says turkey has been

launching airstrikes against it fighters in northern iraq and syria. the pkk and turkey have a long and violent history over fight over kurdish independence. they have had a two-year truce in effect. the concern is the violence between both sides will hinder the fight against isis and hinder regional cooperation. the pkk is working with other kurdish ground forces fighting isis in iraq and syria with help from us air strikes. by the way, those forces, have for the most part been winning in the fight against isis u.s. officials said turkey has a right to defend itself against the kurdish rebels but also urged both sides to stop fighting and, jenna, likewise, that was the same message from nato member nations today at that meeting in belgium basically saying both sides, turkey, and the kurds, really need to put aside their differences instead join together in the fight against their common enemy, in this case

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jenna: some of the biggest auto companies in the headlines recently over safety recalls. while it is against the law to sell cars with open safety recall, it is not against the law for you to rent one. according to nbc news report you can easily rent cars unrecall notices even if the rental

company never sent them back for repairs. the report comes after this massive takata airbag and fiat chrysler recalls that have impacted millions and millions of vehicles. experts say anyone can check the recall status after rental car. look at the vin number and enter it into the safe car.gov website. jon: as we told you at the top of the hour the new york prison employee accused of helping two killers escape accept as plea deal. joyce mitchell going before a judge today in upstate new york applieding to two charges connected to the her role in the escape of two convicted murderers from a maximum security prison. she is faces some seven years in prison. we'll find out in a few weeks what she will actually receive. we have fox news's lis wiehl and esther panitche. welcome to both of you. >> thanks, jon. jon: lis, a little more than

seven years in prison. that includes the possibility of another year in county jail. >> with the misdemeanor, right. jon: with the misdemeanor charge against her. appropriate punishment fitting crime? >> yes. she won't get near that i think should get full eight years. because of the plea deal she accepted responsibility which means the sentence goes down, it is lower. i think the judge will split the seven-year possibility in half. give her 3 1/2 and have the misdemeanor run concurrent, not 3 1/2 consecutive which would give her an extra year. they're putting that. not putting government to trial. she is pleading guilty. she knows she want win. no defense. on the other side the prosecutor is not so happy to go to trial because she will use oh, i was in love defense. jon: esther she did back out of the plan that would have made her the getaway driver. had she participated in that, this whole thing could have ended up much more horribly than it did with a lot of dead people including her.

can she point to that say, well at least i didn't drive them away? >> well, that is why she is only facing the seven years and not anything more than that. if she had continued with the conspiracy to kill her husband for example, she would be facing conspiracy to murder. so, the charges she is actually pled to reflect what she actually did. and since she did an overt act by providing the weapons or the tools to these prisoners to escape, she completed her part of the conspiracy. so she is facing what she should be facing. i do agree that she's not going to serve nearly the entire time she is looking at. jon: lis look what she is responsible for. >> exactly. jon: the search was a million dollars a day. people were on edge moved out of her houses because they were so terrified. the widespread repercussions go way beyond a couple years in jail it seems? >> absolutely. what she did provided tools literally to get them out.

she could say i was in love whatever, but the fact is this would not have gone through, this would not have been successful but for her actions. that is why i think the seven years, you know should be a minimum. as you point out, jon, people were terrorized around here in the new york area, upstate new york, terrorized by these people, for days not knowing where they were. millions of dollars that it cost, seven years to me seems light. she will not get near that. jon: let's tell our viewers a little bit about a story that first began last week when attorney and reality tv star loradona neshe was found stabbed to death in her southern california home. lawyers for the man charged with murdering his girlfriend he said it was self-defense when he wrestled a hunting knife from her. esther, is this tough one to prove, a 51-year-old guy stabs to death his 47-year-old live-in girlfriend? can he claim self-defense?

>> if you look at these type of cases one person alive and one person dead you're limited in the defense options you don't have the somebody else did it possibility. we know he did it. options to him are insanity or self-defense. insanity he probably has no mental health history. so you can throw that one out. self-against is all that is left. he is only one who can testify to that. it is his only available option if he wants to fight the charges. whether it is successful or not, she was a cop. there was volatile relationship. we don't know what happened there. what was coming at him. forensics will play a huge part in this investigation. jon: she was a former l.a. cop. she was an avid bodybuilder. his lawyer describes her as exceptionally strong of the argument is, that he or that she somehow had a hunting knife and came at him with it. she ended up getting stabbed.

>> forensics will be absolutely key. if the forensics show wound was down, es was over her when he, when he stabbed her that is it for him. there is no self-defense on those kind of forensics. neighbors have been complaining about them. their volatile relationship. screaming and yelling. because of videotape, reality show that will be exhibit a for the prosecutors. even on the reality show they were fighting and angry with each other and so volatile. apparently a girlfriend of hers the victim said she was in the midst of breaking up with him. that would be motive there. jon: interesting. the neighbors said they heard lots of fighting but everything went quiet for couple months. last week -- >> not so good. jon: she winds up dead. lis wiehl, esther panitche. thank you both. jenna: stocks are heading higher this hour after a big drop yesterday dragged down by china's massive selloff. what it means for the economy and your bottom line. he is called the iron cowboy for

a very good reason. the world record he just set. 50 "iron man" races, 50 races in 50 states. how does he do it? why did he do it? we'll ask him next. ♪ ♪.

jenna: right now, quick look what is still to come this hour of "happening now." secretary of state john kerry and top members of the obama administration back on capitol hill selling the iran nuclear deal to skeptical lawmakers the we'll talk about a man who tiffed about the deal and what it could mean for terrorists overseas. trainers at a fire academy providing a rare glimpse what it is like to battle a massive fire. why they did it and why it could save your life. relatives of colorado movie theater shooter james holmes taking the stand for the first time hoping to spare his life. a live report on the emotional testimony straight ahead. jon: "fox business alert." taking a look at the dow, it has shaken off the chinese blues, up about 105 points right now after chinese stocks suffered the biggest one-day drop in more than eight years yesterday. that trigger ad global selloff with the dow dropping 130 points to its lowest close since february. as you can see at the moment it

has earned most of that pointage back. what does it mean for your money? joining us from the fox business network studio, jo ling couldn't. hey, jo. >> jon, markets dropped again in tuesday trading for a three-day drop of 11% but now u.s. markets are trying to bounce back and snap a five-day losing streak with a new focus on the two-day fed meeting that starts today. we expect to hear more about possible interest rate hike tomorrow afternoon. fed chair janet yellen indicated that a rate increase could come as early as september but perhaps later there is no doubt that chair yellen will be taking the china market route into consideration as well as u.s. consumer confidence numbers that came out this morning. turns out consumers were less upbet this month than economists were expecting. conference board index dropped nine points from june to july. that is the lowest reading since september missing economists expectations. concerns about the labor market plus the volatility which saw in

greece and china certainly weighed on shoppers here. there was good news for homeowners. home prices rose 1.1% month to month. they were up 1.9% over the past year according to the case-shiller home index. this missed forecasts but sales continue to tick up across 20 cities surveyed. we're watching earnings reports from big tech companies coming up this week like facebook and twitter which reports after the closing bell. jon? jon: that sounds good. jo ling kent in the fox business studios. jenna: "happening now," 90 runners getting ready to compete in a 135-mile bad water the a interest marathon in death valley california. that will happen today. expected highs at starting line hovering around 113 degrees. if you think that's rough, because it is, check this out. my next guest just accomplished a tremendous feat. it is called the 50/50/50 challenge. the man who pulled it off is

known as the iron cowboy for good reason. james lawrence of utah just completed his 50th, full course ironman over the weekend. 50 races in 50 states, in 50 days. that works out to a lot of miles swimming. 120 miles swimming, 5600 miles biking, running 1300 miles. remember there is a marathon in every ironman you do. he said he did it for his kids and raise money for the jamie oliver food foundation which provides people with better access to food education. joining me the iron cowboy himself, james lawrence. you have our full tanks and admiration. why, james, why did choose to do this? >> that is one of the biggest questions. i hold two world records and i wanted to find my mental, physical limits. and like you said, we also wanted to raise money for the childhood obesity and jamie oliver food foundation.

jenna: did you find your li3its during this. >> yeah we sure did, man. we found my fiscal limits and more my mental limits -- physical limits. what i am proud, my crew and myself pushed through those. the odds were stacked against us. not many thought we could do it. we persevered and pushed through the finish. jenna: that is one of the questions we first had talking about the story. logistically how did you pull it off? >> that was one of the biggest things that also people said was, that, you know we believed that you can do it physically and mentally but we believe you will run into out of control logistics that will completely shut you down. and, to me that was just, you know, just a slight obstacle. if something came up to me it atter of finding a way around it or how to get through it. we started in hawaii and went to alaska then washington. that was hardest part, getting those flights lined up. i got a total of seven 1/2 hours

of sleep through the first three "iron mans" because of international or sorry, domestic travel. then to get from state to state every night, we would soon as i finish the run, they would throw food at me and throw me in the motor home and we travel through the night. jenna: unbelievable your wife and five kids were with you the entire time? >> yeah. my wife and five kids were there. they loved it. i mean my wife worked really hard but my kids got to play. my wife's a saint. jenna: she is. i have to say that, dave i think she is, for real. >> everybody told me how many levels i married up. jenna: that is the way you should do it. >> but the kids they had a blast. they got to sleep well through the night. work up in every state. got to see monuments, go to museums, parks. they probably had best summer vacation they had. jenna: just so our viewers understand, when you went through states you charted out your own ironman. there are points on the course where you might be alone but

invited people to ride with you or to run with you. at every race you invited community to come and join you. tell us a little bit about that. >> yeah. that was one of the coolest things. i ended up never being alone. the communities across the united states just absolutely came out and overwhelmed us. i had somebody with me and every swim, every bike. we had, we ranged from 10 to a couple thousand people at every single one of the 5-k runs we did at 7:00 at night. one of the most important things we did. what i wanted to do was bring community out and really empower people to be active and learn about what real food can do. jenna: wow, really amazing. i was reading as i was wondering what is the biggest obstacle you had to confront. i couldn't believe one story where you fell asleep on your bike. that must have been pretty scary? >> i was experiencing such haifa teeing, my body in those early weeks, my body hadn't adjusted

to just, doing an ironman every single day on four to five hours of sleep. in tennessee, it was 10degrees outside. on -- 106 degrees. on the arrow bikes you settle in. my heart rate was so low because i was conditioned to do so. i fell asleep, found out that the asphalt is horrible alarm clock. jenna: gosh. you actually finished this endeavor in pretty good shape you say? >> yeah. i was shocked how my body and my mind adapted. my last 20 states we went through i actually got stronger. i posted my fastest time on the 50th ironman here in utah on saturday. jenna: wow. quickly as we wrap up, we could talk to you all day, james. i'm thinking what an amazing way to also see the country. be able to bike and run and swim across it. at the end of all this, you just had a few days to reflect, what is your biggest takeaway? >> man you know, i, jokingly

say there is no salary cap on life and professional sports and really the mind and the body are unbelievable. and just never doubt what you think is possible and never let anybody tell you what is possible and just go out there to live your dreams and just, knock it way out of the park. jenna: james, you have certainly given us a lot to think about. as you say, not only empower people but to inspire them. i bet you empowered a few people listening to your story. say hello to the wife and kids. the best to you james. thank you. >> thank you so much. jon: i can never complain about my knees again. jenna: can you imagine doing that? jon: unbelievable. jenna: still hard to kind of wrap your mind around but you saw the map. they got it done. there you go. jon: falling asleep on the bike and hitting pavement ew. good for him. the secretary of state and other members of the president's team head back to the hill to try to sell the iran nuclear deal

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jon: let's check out what is ahead on "outnumbered" at top of the hour. what do you have? >> jon a scary admission from the syria's president on battle for isis while the defense secretary says the key for defeating the terrorists is to make it stick. so how do we do that? >> more benghazi documents expected to be released by the state department today. what will that mean for hillary clinton's white house run and how should republican candidates handle them? >> one of those candidates standing firm on his

controversial comments about iran and israel and he is on the couch today. >> governor mike huckabee, the huck. our #oneluckyguy for -- no we had him before but not as a presidential candidate. so we've got questions. "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. jon: looking forward to it. see you then. jenna: secretary of state john kerry is back on capitol hill right now along with two other cabinet members making their case for the iranian nuclear deal. a hearing is underway in front of the house foreign affairs committees as they consider the sweeping agreement. the committee chair, congressman ed royce, do we expect iran to change? >> when i look at this and i see iran's neighbors, know it the best, trust it the least i just ask, we're presuming iran is growing to change its behavior. >> no, we're not. >> that behavior did not change last weekend when they were chanting again death to america. >> mr. chairman please, with all due respect we're not presuming any such thing. there is no presumption in here

about what iran will or won't do. there is one objective, make sure they can't get a nuclear weapon. jenna: vice president of the american foreign policy council and expert in middle east security. great to have you on the program. you testified in front of congress last week. we'll talk a little bit about that but what do you think of that exchange between secretary kerry and the congressman? >> thank you jenna. good to be here. i think that's really the heart of the matter frankly. because at the heart of this nuclear deal is this tremendous risky bargain that the barack obama administration is making, reintegrating iran back into the international community infusing them with billions of dollars sanctions relief, fund they had were frozen can be repatriated, this won't cause iran to act more badly than they're acting currently. so as chairman royce was talking about, at the heart of this deal is the assumption that by fiddling on the edges of iran's

nuclear program we can really change their behavior. anybody that tells you different, including the secretary, even though he said it very persuasively is simply not telling the truth. jenna: playing devil's advocate for a moment. if this is part of a bigger strategy tone gauge iran or bigger strategy where the goal is regime change, can it fit into something that is bigger than just a nuclear deal? >> well it can. i think in a little bit of a different way. certainly the administration when it talks about the iran nuclear deal, it talks about it in isolation but it is part of a larger picture. it is a larger picture that the administration is trying to effect in the middle east this doesn't have to do with regime change into iran. this is to turn iran, a an ally a proxy against the islamist terrorist group in neighboring iraq whatever it is, it is not to transform iran but to behave bitter through inducement.

jenna: secretary lew and cabinet secretaries on the hill trying to get lawmakers to get behind the plan. you were part of a different hearing where you raised concerns with the deal. i'm curious if you could summarize for our viewers what your main point was to lawmakers and what you felt the reception was by them? >> sure. well, i think the key here, there is lots of different things that you can nitpick at with regard to the terms and conditions of the deal but to me the biggest deficiency, the biggest demerit is the fact that iran is the world leading state sponsor of terrorism. they have according to the u.s. government a nine digit line item in their budget to support groups like hezbollah and hamas and through this deal we're about to dramatically expand the ability of iranian regime to do so. this deal envisions the provision of 100 to $150 billion in frozen assets that iran currently can't access repatriating them back to iran

very quickly. and we hope they will spend this on domestic infrastructure and roads and potholes, whatever it is but money is fungible. the ability of iran currently constrained by sanctions to support terror is dramatically increased when they have an infusion equivalent to a quarter of their annual budget. jenna: is there a way to compromise? mining that we keep some of the deal as it stands but continue to be more strict when it comes to sanctions is specially from our side? forget the agreement we have with the other countries but it is my understanding that we do have some sanctions on iran that will of course remain because they're separate than the nuclear deal. can we keep enough of those sanctions on where we continue to make an impact in the hopes that that money does not go towards terror? >> well the answer is yes and no. and that is really where the rub is right now in the deliberations that congress is engaging in. what you have is, sanctions that are levied on iran because of it is nuclear work and

proliferation related activities but sanctions relating to iran's sponsor of terrorism. iran is worried justifiably so in service the deal obama administration will start rolling back nuclear sanctions and non-nuclear one if it does that, if the deal really does that, we are going to see dramatically diminished capability to hold iran to its account for international terrorism support. >> the getting back to the question about lawmakers and how they received you, how do you think the lawmakers received your message? >> no. i think it was received loud and clear. more than anything else, the key here as congressman deliberate the deal is they want to make sure the deal does no harm. this kind of money in the hands of iran it likely to do a lot of it. jenna: great to have you on program. look forward to having you back. thank you very much. >> thank you. jon: some dramatic testimony at the colorado movie massacre trial as defense attorneys try to convince jurors to spare the life of a convicted mass murder irer putting members of james

holmes's family on the stand. we're live at the courthouse.

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bob and arlene holmes will do what they can to on vince the jury not to condemn their son to death. if the jury can not agree and is unable to come to unanimous conclusion, holmes will receive a sentence of life in prison without parole. holmes younger sister chris took the stand yesterday. through tears she told the courtroom once she got word of the shooting she grabbed a photo of herself with her brother when they were younger because she thought authorities would take everything that had to do with him away. >> i wanted one thing. i just wanted one picture of us. >> after all do you still love your brother? >> yes. >> and do you still love him? >> i still love him. >> reporter: the 22-year-old chris holmes spoke of a up blipping by their parents who she said they were very lucky to have. she saw a dramatic difference in her brother's personality and appearance after the shooting when she visited him in jail

and his eyes were wide and bubble-like. the killing of 12 people and injuring of 70 others, the convicted shooter's sister agreed it was out of character for him and something that came completely out of the blue. according to our producer in the courtroom jenna this jury has become emotional and teary during victim family member and surviving testimony. during the testimony by chris holmes yesterday there was no emotion, no visible reaction whatsoever. jenna? jenna: alicia, thank you. jon: new in the next hour of "happening now," illegal immigrant accused of murdering a young woman in san francisco faces a judge today. plus artificial sweeteners get a bad rap but new research suggests that they could be better for you than sugar.

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