visit philipslifeline.com/caregiver today or call this number for your free brochure and ask about free activation. republicans savage the head of the internal revenue service about his sponsor lack of it for the targeting conservative groups. this is "special report." >> good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. by virtue of his job as america's tax man, john costinen is already one of the country's most disliked bureaucrats. today the irs commissioner was definitely feeling no love on capitol hill. senate republican went after him for what they see as institutional indifference to the scandal over the targeting of conservative groups by his agency. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel has tonight's top story.

>> reporter: with conservatives frustrated about the lack of accountability avatar getting conservatives groups, senator ted cruz convened a subcommittee hearing grilling john costinen. >> has anyone been indicted? >> no. >> has anyone been fired? >> there have been -- at this point the five major people starting with the commissioner on down through the director of exempt organizations are all new. everyone else is gone. >> the panel's top democrat blamed the target on a broken campaign finance system. >> rather than trying to score political points by distorting a set of unfortunate but basically honest mistakes by civil servants, we should instead ask ourselves the question, how is it that we have all allowed such an irrational system to continue to exist? >> costinen took over the the irs seven months after the scandal broke this. was his first visit to capitol

hill since house oversite republican sent this 30-page letter to president obama on monday demanding that he be removed from his job as commissioner. lawmakers say costinen had a duty to preserve and produce approximately 24,000 e-mails from former official lois lerner but note the irs under his leadership has failed to do so. today cruz made this reference to watergate. >> we've destroyed the hard drives, richard nixon's ghost must have been smiling at that protestation. >> cruz drew this distinction after lerner refused to answer questions on capitol hill. >> a senior official of the irs twice saying, if i answer your question s questions i could end up in the slammer. >> at white house spokesman eric schultz expressed continued support for costinen. >> his decades of experience turning around both public and private institutions continue to make him the right person to lead this agency. >> senators also heard from representatives of conservative

groups who had their lives turned upside down by extra scrutiny from the irs. >> patience is also wearing then with u.s. district court judge emmitt sullivan. he's threatening to hold costinen and justice department attorneys in contempt of court for failing to produce status reports and lois lerner e-mails. >> a north carolina congressman seemed to shock everybody by trying to have john boehner removed as speaker of the house. what's the latest of that? >> reporter: stunning. first time in almost a century that a lawmaker has tried to have a house speaker vacate his post. it was republican mark meadows from north carolina who shocked house leadership and even many of his conservative colleagues. meadows later back pedaled saying he wasn't trying to remove boehner from power but wanted to start a dialogue about how the house is being operated. some members criticized him blaming this was a lame publicity stunt or attempt to boost fundraising from outside conservative groups. boehner said this effort doesn't deserve a vote and offered this

reaction. >> we've got a member here and a member there who are off the reservation. no big deal. >> he says house lawmakers are leaving for five weeks and wanted to be talking to their constituents about their opposition to the iran nuclear deal. of course those planned parenthood videos. now they expect that they'll be getting questions about drama with the speaker. bret? >> mike emanuel live on the hill tonight. thanks. 11-term pennsylvania democratic congressman chuck elfata is vowing to remain in office tonight despite racketeering charges. a federal indictment includes 29 counts of bribery, fraud money laundering and other crimes. fattah is accused of paying off campaign loans and he is son's student loan debt with charitable donations and federal grants. hillary clinton is expressing concerns about undercover videos alleging gruesome goings on at planned parenthood abortion clinics. chief legal correspondent

shannon bream is here tonight. this a shift? >> reporter: it does seem like an evolution of sorts. this is what she told the new hampshire union leader this week. she said "i have seen pictures from them and obviously find them disturning" talking about the videos. you may remember when they first broke we reached out and asked the clinton campaign for a response. she was silent for days and then said this. "it's important to remember that planned parenthood provides all kinds of health services like cancer screenings and birth control. she went on to add this. >> it is unfortunate that planned parenthood has been the object of such a concerted attack for so many years. >> reporter: while her comments are tougher on the organization this week, it does not appear she's planning to abandon them. she added also that if there's going to be any kind of congressional investigation, bret, she says it should look at everything, not just at planned parenthood. >> so where are the republicans on defunding planned parenthood? >> reporter: well they are aware and rolling out a measure that the democrats are talking

about this as an attack on women's health care or another war on women. this is how they're rolling it out today. they're saying they're making it clear they aren't taking away any dollars. no funding levels are going to change for women's health. they want to redirect the dollars that have been going to planned parenthood to other options, like community centers and hospitals. >> i want to make clear that there will be no reduction in overall federal funding available to support women's health. >> reporter: here's the thing. republicans will have to get 60 votes to actually move this bill forward procedurally. they're going to keep everyone on their side of the aisle. senator susan collins says in her state, in maine, planned parenthood is the primary provider of women's health services. so she's unlikely she says to vote for immediate defunding prior to some type of full investigation. also senator john cornen said today he hopes the first procedural vote on this bill will come monday night. bret, again without 60 votes it doesn't go anywhere.

>> we'll follow it shannon, thank you. the house has approved just before leaving for august recess a bill to extend highway construction for three months. the vote was 385-34. this averts a shutdown of highway programs at the end of the month. provided the senate approves the bill in the next two days. a buffalo-area man is facing terrorism charges tonight. federal agents raided arafats? naji's home this morning. he's accused of traveling to turkey with the intention of joining isis. federal authorities say they were tipped off by a resident who heard him talking about his jihadi beliefs. u.s. authorities have confirmed the reclusive leader of the taliban is dead and has been for two years. this comes as the president's top advisers continue to spar with congress and america's allies over the iranian nuclear deal. correspondent doug mcelway reports tonight from the white house. >> reporter: the afghan government's timing of its announcement that taliban leader mullah omar died two years ago

was curious. it came just two days before its new round of peace talks with the taliban, that omar led a ten-year-long insurgency against u.s. troops. it may throw a wrench into the talks. they had mentioned omar's name as recently as this month. the white house urged the talks to continue, not knowing who the real taliban leader is. >> the united states does continue to support an afghan-led and afghan-owned reconciliation process as the surest way to end violence in the region. >> reporter: it marks a new foreign policy headache for the obama administration which came under fire in a senate hearing. republicans are livid over what they call a side deal in the iran nuclear agreement. it allows iran to choose its own soil samples for iaea inspection. senators today learned no one in the administration has yet read the side deal. >> all i can say -- first of all i personally have not seen those documents. >> which is astounding to be honest with you that is absolutely astounding that you have not seen the documents that are a requirement for

verification. >> the white house pushed back noting the so-called side deal ace standard classified cause often included in agreements between iaea and individual states. >> there is no side deal. there are no secret deals between the p 5 plus 1 and iran. >> reporter: meanwhile the investigation has been mounting a full court press to reassure middle east allies the deal is a good one. secretary of state john kerry is headed there last week. defense secretary ash carter just returned. he tried to convince senators the nuclear genie will be kept in the bottle. >> we can rapidly surge an overwhelming array of forces into the region, sophisticated mission that is put no target out of reach. >> reporter: as speed speak the president is attempting to bolster support for the iran deal by hosting house democrats in the east room. house republicans will need 43 democratic defections in order to override that promised presidential veto. bret? >> doug mcelway thanks. the first presidential debate night on fox just eight

days away. and now one shift. we'll explain. first here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 19 in cincinnati with a murder indictment against a university of cincinnati police officer. the officer's body cam captured the fatal shooting during a traffic stop. the prosecutor says officer ray tensing purposely killed samuel deboze. the prosecutor disputes tensing's account he was dragged by the car and forced to shoot. in boston new england patriots quarterback tom brady says he will fight his four-game suspension. the penalty for his role in deflating footballs for the afc championship game was upheld by the nfl yesterday. this is a live look at los angeles from our affiliate fox 11. the big story there tonight, two children suffering critical injuries when a five-story-tall pine tree fell on a group of youths. it happened near a children's museum in pasadena. six other children suffered minor injuries. that's tonight's live look outside the beltway from

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all 16 candidates will appear on the fox debate. >> the obsession with polls it's just counter productive at this point. at this time in new hampshire, four years ago herman cane was winning. >> candidates across the board are prepping for the next news debate. all will be invited to be on stage in the two debates. one from 5:00 to 11:00, the other from 6:00 to 10:00.

an added factor the donald. john kasich tweeted about preparations. imagine a nascar driver meantly prepping for a race knowing one of drivers will be drunk. that's what this is like. trump said he'd love to have sarah palin in his canbinet yesterday. but the billionaire koch brothers have no patience for him. no invitation to the gathering with bush, walker cruz, rubio and fiorina. now donald trump is under fire for a 2-year-old tweet in which he decried sexual violence in military and seems to fault the brass for evening thinking that the secs could live and serve peacefully side by side "26,000 unreported sexual assaults in the military, only 238 convictions. what did these geniuses expect when they put men and women together"? trumps trashed most of his

rivals personally. in new york rick perry was asked about the statement he's not smart enough or strong enough to be on the debate stage. >> what would you say to him in your presence? >> let's get a pull up bar out there and see who can do more pull ups. >> reporter: wisconsin governor scott walker an avowed cheesehead pulled up to the windows of two famous rival sub shops in philly yesterday pats and gino es and blew it. he substituted real cheese for cheese whiz. a gap that tripped updom john kerry in his failed 2004 white house bid. a misstep is not likely to cripple a candidate at this stage of the game. but they all know in just eight days the fox debates could amount to a make or break moment for any of them. today former virginia governor jim gilmore filed papers to become a candidate. so with an official announcement, that would make 17 bret >> yes, it would. carl, thank you. coming up at the bottom of the hour famed neurosurgeon turned presidential candidate dr. ben carson takes our center seat with the panel.

even normally supportive media are going after hillary clinton tonight over her refusal to take a stand on the keystone xl pipeline. the "washington post" today cited clinton for a quote ridiculous hedge during a campaign event yesterday. that's not the only environmental challenge for the democratic frontrunner. chief white house correspondent ed henry is covering the clinton campaign again tonight. >> reporter: in a rare split with president obama that shifts her further to the left on another big policy issue, hillary clinton revealed she's tilting against the white house move allow exploratory oil drilling 70 miles off the coast of alaska. >> i have doubts about whether we should permit drilling in the arctic. and i don't think it is a necessary part of our overall clean energy climate change agenda. >> reporter: the interview with nh 1 news, a local tv network in the pivotal state of new hampshire came after clinton took major static from two of her democratic rivals about her environmental credentials after she twice ducked questions from

a voter and a reporter at a town hall in new hampshire about her position on construction of the proposed keystone xl oil pipeline by deferring to the president. >> this is president obama's decision. and i am not going to second guess him. if it's undecided when i become president i will answer your question. >> reporter: it's no laughing matter for socialist democratic senator bernie sanders, who ripped clinton for vacillating in a statement which declared quote it is hard for me to understand how one can be concerned about climate change but not vigorously oppose the keystone pipeline. while former maryland governor martind on twitter kwrngs i'm opposed to keystone xl because we can't have a clean energy future if we rely on dirty, short-term fossil fuel fixes." the pressure from liberals over clinton's decisions to move left on arctic drilling while sitting on the fence about keystone comes as a conservative pac per rising slammed her for twice being spotted using a private jet that burns 347 gallons of fuel per hour during the same

week she pitched a major plan to deal with climate change. clinton spokeswoman said there could be a political advantage to weighing in on keystone, but the former secretary of state thinks it would be disruptive to the process. though critics say that process has dragged on. bret? >> ed, thank you. still ahead, dr. ben sarcarson in our center seat tonight. first is it mission impossible? the new man at the tsa on how to fix a broken system.

it's the new head of the transportation security administration, the tsa, had any doubts about just how tough his job will be, they've all been erased. peter nessinger received a baptism by fire today on capitol

hill where his mission to turn around the much criticized agency was characterized both as essential and nearly impossible. correspondent rich edson on a very rough first day with the bosses. >> reporter: a recent 95% failure rate for an agency tasked with a constant 100% success. correcting that is peter neffinger's job. he's the newly installed administrator of the transportation security administration, the agency responsible for keeping airline passengers safe. >> delivering an effective system and earning the confidence of the traveling public will only come through competence disciplined performance and professionalism. >> reporter: this morning he update the house committee on homeland security on his plan to earn that confidence. last month internal investigators revealed they snuck weapons past tsa screeners 67 times in 70 tries. and this weekend, a man reportedly bypassed security at dallas ft. worth international airport and boarded a plane without a ticket. workers at other airports have

smuggled guns and drugs. that complaints of screening delays and persistent reports of low morale and high turnover continue to define tsa performance. >> you have an employees that you're going to have to put the fear of god in their heart or nothing is going to change. >> reporter: tsa's plan to address this? retrain all officers by september, increase the use of hand-held detectors. initiate moran com explosive tests. re-evaluate screening equipment and consider opening the expedited security line known as precheck for only those passengers who have applied for the program and passed a background check. solutions to a familiar set of problems for already the sixth administrator of the tsa in its 14-year history. >> i've seen some good administrators precede you that ran into administrative pressures to back off. you're going to run into that. but i want you to understand that you've got some folks that really believe they don't have to change. you'll be gone before they are. >> reporter: homeland security committee chairman mike mccall says neffinger is the right man

to oversee the tsa and the nearly 2.5 million passengers going through u.s. airports daily. bret. >> rich edson live on the hill thank you. a good day on wall street. the dow gained 121, s&p 500 was up 15 the nasdaq finished ahead 22 1/2. recreational marijuana is legal, of course in many places. but there is an offshoot that presents hidden dangers. parents with teenagers and younger children need to pay particular attention to this next report. from correspondent casey stegall in dallas. >> the last time i remember doing it i barricaded myself into a room, thinking that my friends were going to try to rob me. >> reporter: scott lynch is a recovering addict turned substance abuse counselor in austin, texas. he's describing the side effects of a drug that's attractive to teens and easy to find. synthetic marijuana is known as k2 or spice on the streets. according to the american association of poison control centers, more than 2600 k2

poisoning cases were reported in 2013. so far this year the number has nearly doubled, with texas mississippi and new york recording the highest numbers. >> it's become an increasing priority for us. >> reporter: austin police say they've responded to a record 600 emergency calls since the end of may. while fatal overdoses are rare, consuming the drug is quite risky, because it's essentially plant material laced with dangerous chemicals like bug spray. >> it caused some sort of high, but with it extreme anxiety paranoia, hallucinations, delusions, and then they can also cause chest pain and heart attack. >> reporter: k2 can be sold in some tobacco shops and on the internet because of a legal loophole. it's marketed as incense, not for human consumption which makes it okay to buy and sell. only a handful of synthetic marijuana ingredients are considered illegal. but police say the drugmakers

are constantly changing the recipes in order to skirt the laws. bret? >> casey thank you. a professional hunter in zimbabwe was charged today with helping an american tourist illegally kill a protected lion. cecil the 13-year-old lion beloved by many. minnesota dentist walter palmer is expressing his regret, saying he thought he was acting legally while on his $50,000 big game hunt. palmer has been inundated with criticism. his dental office in minnesota is closed. republican presidential candidate marco rubio tweeted today "look at all this outrage over a dead lion. but where is all the outrage over the planned parenthood dead babies". a u.s. official says investigators have a high degree of confidence that debris has been found from the malaysia airlines plane that disappeared last year. what is believed to be the wreckage from a boeing 777 was found on a french island in the western indian ocean.

no grapevine tonight. when we come back, dr. ben carson joins our center seat.

center seat tonight we welcome republican presidential candidate dr. ben carson to our

center seat. let's bring in our panel, steve hayes, ron fornier and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. dr. carson, thanks for being here. >> a pleasure to be here, thank you. >> let me start with something you've been talking about. today your potential opponent, hillary clinton told the new hampshire union lead are that she firmly defends planned parenthood, but she called these videos, these new videos disturbing today and said there should be an investigation. your reaction to that. >> well, that's one thing they agree with her on. that we definitely should be investigating this. for planned parenthood also, i would ask that maybe ms. clinton would go back and look at their history, and look at the history of the person who was the major founder margaret sanger, who she said she admires, who was a racist, and believes believed in eugenics.

go back and look at many of her quotations. very disturbing someone could find a person like that a heroic figure. but more importantly what's going on here, we as society have allowed our sensitivities to gradually be dulled to the point where it takes something of this magnitude to begin to shock us, when all along babies were being slaughtered. and the relationship one of the most sacred relationships that exists, that between a mother and a developing child, has been distorted to the point where we have many women believe that that's an inconvenience for them and that that child is their enemy, and that that child can be destroyed, and that anybody who doesn't agree with that is engaged in a war on women. >> so i assume that you're fully behind the effort to defund planned parenthood. they come back and say there are other things that organization does, cancer screenings, women's health. they list a whole bunch of

things. >> not only am i fully behind it i encourage people to sign our petition on bencarson.com to defund it. you know all those things that they say that they do otherwise mammograms, and screenings and hiv testing, et cetera, aren't those the things that we're supposed to be taken care of by obama care? and there are many other mechanisms to get those things taken care of. so i think it's just a screen. and we again -- i keep pointing people to the fact that babies, human beings are not just a needless pile of cells as they would have you believe. they have to dehumanize it in order to justify what they're doing. >> steve. >> speaking of obama care one subject that will surely be part of the debate next week is medicaid. some of your rivals as governor chose to expand it under obama care. others rejected that option. i'm interested in your views generally on whether it was a good idea to expand medicaid or

not. and secondly, is it your experience and what's your experience in terms of the care that patients get who are on medicaid? is it necessarily the case that they get better outcomes if they're on medicaid? >> no, they don't necessarily get better care. and many practitioners don't necessarily accept patients who are on medicaid. i could give you some shocking names of some democrats who try to act like they're wonderful people and don't want to deal with it. >> you're welcome to. [ laughter ] >> like to ask questions about that. >> but fact of the matter is, the bottom line is we really need to start thinking about how do we take care of people in a reasonable way? how do we take practitioners out of a position where they have to decide upon the viability of their practice and therefore they can only take a certain number of those kinds of patients. we don't want them in that

position. and that's why i have tended to look for a better system. is health care a right? i don't believe it is. but i do believe it's a responsible responsibility for a compassion at society which we are. that's why i've evacuated the use of health savings accounts. make them available to everyone who can pay for them with the same dollars that we pay for traditional care with. we give people flexibility to move money around in their hsa within their family. it gives you enormous flexibility to cover almost anything that comes up. makes the cost of catastrophic insurance go down dramatically because the only thing coming out of it is catastrophic health care. and that will easily take care of the majority of people in this country for less money than we're paying now. but what about engine? this is where medicaid and things of that come in. indigent. but the annual medicaid budget is $405 billion a year.

think about the fact there are a quarter of our people involved in that, 80 million to 400 billion goes $5,000 each man, woman and child. what could you buy with that? a concierge practice and still have money left over to buy catastrophic insurance. i'm not suggesting we do that. but that's what's available. if we do that in a practical way, give them the ability to have control of their hsa which people in government will say you can't do because they're stupid and you can't do it. they said that about food stamps, too. it's not true. and they will learn how to use it very quickly not to go to the emergency room where it costs five times more than to go to the clinic. in the clinic you're also going to be looking at their overall health. you're going to be teaching the whole concept of health management for themselves. and we want to teach people how to be responsible and not how to be dependent. >> sir, you and i grew up in the same town of detroit about the same time. i grew up on the northeast side raised by a detroit riot comment

my family and my neighborhood was part of white flight in the 70s and 80s. you grew up in the southwest side. mother was a housekeeper. you grew up near the riots. can you talk a little bit about our city our different experiences, our two americas, and how that might reflect the way you would lead this country? >> well, you know, detroit is a great example of what the united states is going to experience if they don't learn from what detroit did. you know basically detroit kept kicking the can down the road, being fiscally irresponsible, not caring about the next generation, allowing bad relationships to fester and feeding them. and it blew up. it was once the most prosperous city in america. some people say the most prosperous city in the world. and from there we go to the largest brupankruptcy in our

country. there are many things for to be learned. one is that we cannot allow the purveyors of division to prevail and to drive wedges between us in every possible way. race religion, gender, income, age, everything possible. >> politics? >> politics. everything. the other thing is we must be fiscally responsible. detroit was not fiscally responsible. and some people say it was the unions. the unions, the unions. but no the unions couldn't have done what they did without cooperation from all of those executives in the automobile industry who knew that they would have a golden parachute and be long gone before the effects hit. and if we only worry about ourselves and we don't worry about those coming behind us, that is inevitable. >> sounds like d.c., doesn't it? >> it really does. >> let me wrap this first segment there. we'll have two more with dr. carson. more with center seat.

and charles krauthammer's question after the brea

and we're back with our panel and presidential candidate dr. ben carson. charles. >> doctor, let's assume you're president. you have to make a supreme court appointment. there are two very important issues historically. one is the abortion decision, 1973, and the one we got last year legalizing -- well, mandating gay marriage. would you require of all your nominees a pledge or at least a commitment to overturn them both? >> i don't believe that that is the right way to appoint people. i think the better way to appoint people is to go back and look at their judicial history. and i think that informs you a lot more. we've tried it the other way. and it doesn't seem to work.

>> you get liars? >> yes. you get people who prevaricate and perhaps to ensure a job. what doesn't lie is their record. if you look back and see what they've done. do they really understand the constitution? and it requires some significant delving into their past. >> so let me ask it another way. if you were the first neurosurgeon appointed to supreme court assuming in this race, doesn't quite pan out would you overturn roe and would you overturn the gay marriage decision? >> i would certainly be on the side of getting rid of both of those absolutely. i don't deny that in any way. >> okay. we asked people on twitter to write in and facebook. robert tweeted in "lack of foreign policy experience. why should we trust dr. carson on foreign policy?" >> well, i would say that i've visited 57 countries lived

overseas talked to many foreign leaders, been involved in health care interests in other countries, and most importantly i actually have a brain. and can actually learn things other than medicine. and i always find it fascinating that people would ask that of me because i'm a neurosurgeon. but they don't necessarily ask that of somebody who has been a senator or a governor who really has no more foreign policy experience than i do. and perhaps have even spent less time talking to other people and learning about it. and i think when it comes to actual foreign policy issues, the proof will be in the pudding. what do i think? what are my solutions? >> steve. >> so what does that process look like for you? let's stipulate that you're capable of learning. i think very few people would dispute that. what have you been doing? reading books? consulting with foreign policy

experts? >> i've been reading books, talking to many people in the military, people in the cia, foreign leaders. and not to mention the fact that since i was nine years old i've been very attentive to what's going on. it started when i was nine years old and i was getting a haircut. i looked at the television and there were these people mowing people down with hoses and dogs were attacking people. that began my political interests. and i've continued it ever since that time. >> what foreign leader whom you've met has most shaped your world view? >> probably fidel castro. >> how so? you better finish that answer question >> yes. in the sense that he seemed completely full of himself and could talk for hours saying nothing.

and it helped me to realize right off the bat that just because someone has a high position, it doesn't mean that they're an admirable person. >> dr. carson i've heard you say before that you would do away with foreign aid. is that all foreign aid? >> i would do -- well, i have to put that in context. the reason that i'm not interested in america giving away billions of dollars to other countries is because we don't have billions of dollars to give away. we're borrowing money from other people, paying the interest, and then giving it as foreign aid to people. that doesn't make any sense! that's craziness! and we already have a national debt of $18.4 trillion and growing. and getting bigger by $500 million every day. but that's nothing compared to the fiscal gap that amount of money that we owe as a

government in terms of the liabilities that are unfunded versus what we have coming in. brings brink that forward to today's dollars the fiscal gap. >> senator paul has made that case before, too but he eventually changed because of the pressure about israel. are you talking about israel, too? >> in general we do not -- it doesn't make sense for us to borrow money in order to give money to somebody else and pay the interest on it. >> giving money to israel? >> israel i would certainly continue to aid. i think israel is our friend and a strategic ally for us. i was in israel about six months ago. and i couldn't find a single person there who didn't think we had turned our backs on them. and i think they're a strategic ally for us. >> isn't that the case that's always been made for foreign aid, the marshall plan which saved europe and create ed the best strategic ally we've ever had has also done at a time of

huge deficits after the second world war. so in other words you would pre preprioritize and give aid to countries if it were strategically important? >> if it were clearly an important thing to do. in many cases it's not. in many cases we're giving aid to many countries what that don't even like us and say bad things about

center seat continues with our panel and dr. ben carson. in the real clear politics average polls you're in fifth place. in the latest fox poll in sixth place. by all counts you'll make the debate stage in cleveland. but what about painting a picture for people about how you're going to get the

nomination? >> well, the best pathway for me is exposure. 50% of the people still don't know who i am and, you know i'm very much looking forward to the debates because you know a lot of the information that has been disseminated about me is not true and people will have an opportunity to say wow, you mean this guy actually does know something about foreign policy? he actually does know something about economics? he actually is a reasonable person and doesn't hate everybody else? oh my god! then they might actually start listening. >> there are some people i know well when they hear the word trump, they get a headache. what's your diagnosis? >> well, you know i know donald trump. i remember the very first time i met him at mira lago. he kept coming back, he was gracious, making sure i was comfortable. he has always been that way around me. but donald trump is donald trump and he has a unique space he

carves out. it is creating a lot of excitement. this is a marathon, not a sprint. other things will happen as time goes on and as information is revealed about each of us i believe this is a good system and will take care of that. >> do you think it will help or hurt the party? >> i think the more -- right now we're in a critical juncture. we have to pick the strongest candidate and we need to look at everybody. we need not predetermine who that person is. let's listen to what their solutions are, including his. >> your poll and donald trump's polls on a graph, yours go down as he skyrockets he is clearly taking support from you. how do you claim that back. >> time. >> you don't have a lot of time. >> we have plenty of time. if you look at election cycles primary cycles, it is up and down, up and down.

different people at different times. it is hard to imagine going to remain exactly the same way up until the primary. >> do you feel pressure to seize headlines? >> i feel pressure to be myself. >> as you go through the process and look at the rest of the republican field is there anybody in the field you particularly admire? >> i admire anybody that's willing to go through this. >> dr. carson thank you for being here. stick around one quick second. that's it for the panel. stay tuned what could be dr. carson's greatest medical challenge ever.

finally tonight we told you before about the incredible medical accomplishments of dr. carson. i guarantee he will be the only candidate in cleveland that separated con joined twins and performed amazing brain surgeries. tonight could this be his crowning achievement? >> you know, i had opportunity to assess the patient. appears he is in critical condition. however, if we take those organs out, maybe we can get a fresh start. let's start with this inflamed heart. respiratory pattern not conducive to long life. might as well go to the head. he has fixed dilated pupils. i suspect his diet is inappropriate.

he has been swallowing things like syringes and forks. good news is there's only one thing left here, a popsicle. the patient has been through it. >> if it was only tha >> it is not that easy right. >> greta goes on the record right now and special report on-line begins in just seconds. >> it is thursday july 30th, 2015. this is a fox news alert. after more than a year has the missing malaysia plane finally been found? the piece of plane debris that

just washed on shore. >> another brand new poll putting the donald on top. what does it mean for the rest of the field? we are live in washington. >> he has been branded the world's most hated man. the dentist slated a animal kirl. they gave his home address on-line. fox and friends first starts right now. >> good morning to you and your family. you are watching "fox & friends first". it is thursday morning. tail end of the week. thank you for watching. i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. thank you for joining us as always. let's get right to the fox news alert for you. air safety investigators highly confident debris found on the island of the indian ocean belongs to malaysian airlines flight 270. >> jackie ibanez is here with

the breaking details. >> ainsley and heather it is the first break since malaysian airlines flight 370 mysteriously disappeared while traveling to beijing with 239 people on board. the 6 foot long piece is a flapper from the edge of a boeing 747 wing. it was found by people cleaning up a beach on the french island called reunion east of madagascar more than 3800 miles away from the plane's last known location and 300 miles from the main water search off the coast of australia. the piece was found in barnacles suggesting it has been away for a long time. if it is from the missing plane strong rip current could have carried it from the search island to the area. since it was introduced in 1994 mh370 is the only craft of its type to vanish from the sea.