welcome back to "outnumbered." >> it is great to be here. >> everybody is talking about the big story. more clinton e-mails. >> that is always the big story. more of clinton's e-mails are going to be released today with the state department releasing the third batch. this as we get more details that

the information there was from five agencies related to the deadly attack in benghazi and there is a report that hillary's private attorney david kindle has copies on a thumb drive prompting letters to the fbi and state department asking why a lawyer without clearance has them and what they are doing make sure the information is secure. a state department spokesperson said it is being held in a safe place. kindle is the same attorney to defend david petraeus. the fbi raided his office over the incident but no raid on hillary clinton or the lawyer for this thumb drive.

you can ark argue this is the same crime. >> i am torn on it because in the petraeus case there is no argument they were classified. she is arguing they were not classified at the time. the inspector general said that is not true. he said they had information that was classified all along. the question i have is were they stamped classified or marked classified or is this something she should have known was classified or not. i am assuming as the secretary of state she should know the contents that were classified. >> maybe there was a guy named spanky. >> the idea you can give this drive to your lawyer with classified information and your lawyer is a safe protection of the documents i have a problem with. the executive order that

provides classification president obama issued the latest order specifically says what you can and can't do. it says most of the documents couldn't leave a government facility. we have them in her house and now at her lawyer's office supposedly in a safe which doesn't qualify as a skip. >> i am not buying she didn't know what was classified and what wasn't. we had another judge here, judge napolitano and we went through the e-mails and he said she had to know. >> she is saying she is the nation's top diplomat. you talk about the skip and it is specific ways of securing documents at home and there is no wiggle room. catherine heritage has been doing great reporting on this.

this is what general petraeus was accused of. it looks like as you look through the guidelines she has done the same thing. they have the right to secure the thumb drive and the server. i don't see as you comb through the elements this is unequal treatment between the two cases. >> the question is is there a safety brief because did this cause or lead to the death of the four americans? if that is the case it could be criminal. she is secretary of state, this is such a high honor this is like her going on her g-mail account and sending out classified information. and judge napolitano said in one e-mail she is talking about the specifics of the embassy over in benghazi and chris stevens being in the embassy. if it terrorist read the e-mails they know where he is. >> you think about it at the

time, stacey, what was going on with general petraeus? he sent the e-mails to a biographer it turned out he was having an affair with. and i think there are questions on why he was pushed out of the administration. general petraeus was in charge of the cia and a cia knew immediately it was a terror attack in benghazi and put out a memo saying it was terrorism. and her state department tried to tell a different story. >> the e-mails made public were from the national security agency. the defense intelligence agency and the national geospatial agency. how cannot -- how can that not

be classified. >> does it take only president obama and the doj to pursue something this? could they? would they? there is a lot of buzz with the leaked e-mails is the obama administration behind this? i have seen speculation of getting a warrant or biden to run her out. >> i love conspiracy theories. they are rich and colorful. we know not just the way the government acted toward hillary, but the media as well there is certainly partisanship going on. the fbi has to investigate this. the doj can send the fbi out. >> why would not? >> maybe they are and we don't know about it. or maybe it is more of the same. more of the old doj, the new doj is just a different name. >> it would have to be the administration she used to be a part of to take action correct? >> yes. >> team clinton is said to be

growing nervous about a heavy weight joining the 2016 field. democratic sources are telling fox news vice president joe biden chief of staff was spotted having breakfast with a major done aid. but the clinton party is saying there is no change on the focus of joe biden. but maybe there should be. when it comes to the opinion of the former colleagues biden holds a 9-point lead in favorability and hillary clinton is ahead 12-points in the non-favorable comment. okay.;. it is a little more than a conspiracy theory. we know joe biden is mourning the loss of his son so some say he would not jump in. but there is a lot of buzz. she is vulnerable.

could the democrats and the president be pushing a joe biden election? >> this is one of the biggest donors for the democrats meeting with biden. of course they are talking about the election. you see donald trump's rising in the polls with his popilarity. i think they are looking at al alternative alternatives. and joe biden is not denying he is going to join or run. his staff saying it is too soon to tell. his son before dying urged his father to run again. >> i think hillary clinton has to be worried about everything because she wasn't worried last time and look what happened. >> they have tried to keep everyone away from the hoop versus last time when president obama snuck in. but the head-to-head are the

most telling. she trails former governor jeb bush in florida and she had led bush overall by ten points. now she is down. joe biden on the other hand leads bush by one point. i think that puts blood in the water. >> you look at all of the irons she has in the fire. the benghazi issues she will be testifying in front of the house. the foundation information with the new swiss bank details coming up. you have the server and that is not going away. sfwl >> that hearing is in october. >> the question isn't if biden is going to run or not but why

aren't others? they are putting all eggs in one basket that is not solid. >> it sounds like they might be moving the eggs out of that basket. >> could the white house be leaking the information? >> that is a good con peer -- conspiracy theory. >> we know the clinton's and obama's are not fuzzy friends. >> she is a liar she is not truthworthy, i feel bad for them -- kind of. you know, i think this is a no-brainer for us. home run. i am excited. >> a bump in the road for the obama administration's hard cell on the iran -- sell -- nuclear deal. what a top aid to the french president said about a probably no-vote in congress that throws cold water on secretary john kerry's main argument. and things going from bad to

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welcome back to "outnumbered." major developments concerning the iran nuclear deal. government officials saying they will not allow american or canadian inspectors working for the u.n.watch dog agency to visit nuclear facilities. this as president obama is making hard sell. officials may have flown cold water on the claim if if congress kills the deal, our partners will long beach us with no talks. a supporter is saying con a congressional no vote would be

helpful because iran would come back to the table and the world could get a better deal. they denied the remarks. so the remark about not letting canadians and americans in baits on sunday. do you say they were boasting? that is the claim. or do you think it is real? >> there is no love lost between iran and the united states and canada or any other civilized country. i don't know what is in the agreement. i don't happen if the agreement required them to open up for inspections. if is not part of the agreement i have no doubt they intend to keep us away. i said a month ago or so when we started talking about this i said i don't trust iran i will never trust them and i don't think they will ever live up to the agreement.

i don't expect them to eagerly allow western inspectors to come in. only those with diplomatic relationsism >> they said they will be the ones collecting the soil samples and air samples and hand them over rather than the inspectors. >> we can absolutely trust them to give us clean soil samples. i think you bring up a point of not knowing what is in the deal but what is in the specific bullet points. just two weeks ago, the supreme leader came out saying we don't have to honor any of this after we sign it. but the secretary of state testified on capitol hill we could trust them. if you watch the hearings and i encourage everyone to go back and watch them, not just kerry

but secretary moniz had no words on if the sanctions should be lifted. i hope the united states senate votes it down. >> i don't really believe they will take any steps to comply. >> none. >> i don't think they will comply a while and then stop. i don't think they will start complying. they stop complying we make threats and they can them in front of the u.n. and they will have five bombs build. >> remember they said you can come in and inspect, lift the sanctions, then they had you can inspect after we have 28 days to cleanup, and now they are saying we will not let you inspect. while in the world would our congress ever pass a delta improve their system and not

ours. >> there is no way, i don't know if you are democrat or republican you look at this saying it is good deal. >> the second part was the idea of the french diplomatic official who went on american tv saying it isn't a big deal if congress sets this aside it gives us a chance to make an even better deal. now the french are back pedaling like mad. what do you think of that? >> i think they are right. if we say no now it gives us a chance to get allies behind us and figure out the real situation and push back on their heels. they seem to feel like they have the power because they are willing to do whatever they want. >> it is very troubling john kerry said our friends and was concerned we might lose our friends. that was troubling for israel as well. >> figure out who are really our allies and have them back us up. >> for a better deal.

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welcome back to "outnumbered." disturbing new numbers showing sky rocketing murder rates in many cities across the country

most notable in baltimore maryland. leaving experts to worry mounting tension between law enforcement and communities are taking a toll. peter duecy is live. >> reporter: police officers are concerned about conscious quiz quiz -- consequences of mistakes and criminals are operating without much concern and murder rates in big cities are through the roof. chicago has had 240 homicides in 2015 and that is 20% more than this time last year. new orleans has seen a 33% jump in murders and st. louis a 36% spike. here in washington, d.c. where the homicide rate is up 20% the police chief is looking for help from other crime plagued cities. >> we are all seeing the same

thing. there is a difference in what is going on in major cities and we are trying to get together as groups of chiefs and prosecutors and mayors and governors to see watt needs to be done to stem this wave of violence. >> reporter: in milwaukee, the police chief told usa today 80% of the shots they hear are not reported. no body calls 911. the sound of gunshots in the neighborhoods is just that common. judge >> judge, i have build the crime summer and you have to read the reporting of usa today which peter referenced they pointed out a number of cities showing an uptick in crime. you look at what happened from a political perspective and you

have a democratic party on the side of the criminal with anti-cop platform and get rid of stop and frisk and the mayor is trying to do that here and he is trying to get rid of bail for felonys even sanctuary cities are being defended it has turned into a summer of crime. >> it has. they are about to swing in the other way, i believe. there are periods of time where the crime goes up but not like this. balt mother's murder rate is doubled than it was last year -- baltimore -- when criminals feel embolded because they don't believe the police are motivated to do things, they have no

reason to not. >> we know you used to be a cop and we know they are fearing doing their job because of high profile cases that make them guilty before proven guilty. >> when you have your commander and chief and all of your city officials not backing the law enforcement of their city what are they going to do? how are they going to do their job? that is the point i was making. i am not talking about bad shootings. the one we saw -- shot the man running away i don't see justifiable force in that. but when you highlight all of them and you find out it was a

justifiable shooting that builds a bad image. >> it is happening in cities where there are no incidents. in los angeles violent offenses are up 20% and property crime is up 10%. we have noticed it in new york. the decline in the quality of life. normally you blame them on the economy saying people are becoming more desperate but the economy is on the upswing so you cannot dothat right now. this is like a general sense of lawlessness. >> a lot of these cities are, as stacey mentioned, are led by democratic officials. ferguson was a democratic governor and representative. baltimore, democratic leadership for decades. i want to point to something important. the murder stats they are tinkering with them. the chicago tribune did a number of pieces on this.

they are reclassifying how they are doing the murder rate. if 87 people get shot in one weekend chicago counts it as incident so emanuel can stand up saying i brought the crime rate down. >> you are telling cops they are the problem. you are telling crooks if you do something wrong you will not get caught. break down of family and education is the problem as well. pressure is mounting on the minnesota dentist who killed a beloved lion in zimbabwe. and now the zimbabwe government is seeking the extradition of walter palmer. palmer issued a statement saying he relied on the guides to insure the hunt was legal. the feds have not been able to reach him so far despite

multiple attempts including social media. the killing of cecil the lion reaching the president's door step with the signatures required so the administration has to respond. safari international, the hunting group is requesting a thorough investigation into the death. stacey, you were huffing and puffing. what do you think? >> he didn't know it was from a sanctuary. >> are you saying it wasn't his fault? >> he was misled. second of all, it baffles me we have already a 100,000 signatures on a petition about a lion that reached the president's desk and we are still trying to get petitions

signed to close planned parenthood for murdering babies for baby parts. what is wrong with this country? >> can we as a country extradite him to africa? >> we can because we have a treaty with zimbabwe. it is usually used for terrorist or drug charges but it is broad enough to be used on any felony. >> what would happen? >> he would be tried in the zimbabwe court system and if they charge him with poaching 10-15 years is the maximum penalty. he may not have known. the guy might have laid the trap and he lured him off. he has killed 46 wild game and

he could have known. the way he was hunting was illegal but they didn't have the permits on property with a quota, that it was 500 yards from the federal preserve. it may be he did know and obviously it will be needed to go further. he didn't just kill any lion he killed tiger. >> when i read there were 160,000 signatures i think about how we have haven't seen all of hillary clinton's e-mails, we cannot get the server -- you see the pictures and it grabs attention. my kids are upset about it. but we don't show the compassion about so many of the huge issues going on in washington. >> i don't think they are mutually exclusive. you can be horrified and devastated at the planned parenthood stories which i happen and i am devastated at

the death of the lion. to your point melissa, i think the voices seem to be louder in certain areas than they are for others. they seem to be louder getting the white house to react it an animal than maybe a woman murder in san francisco. >> as a criminal court judge i could try case after case involving the death of a child and i would not hear a peep from the public. i am trying a case where a man beat this dog to death and i get 200 letters saying i should send him to the chair. i think because the public knows i will deal with the man that killed the baby but not sure about the animals. >> i have a friend who stood up for animals and i asked why are animals more important than humans and she said an animal never hurt me. >> tell her to go wack walking through the desert.

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hi welcome back to "outnumbered." the controversy continues to grow over the face of christian dior's campaign for the 14-year-old model who walked the

runway. quotes were said like so nice to hire a child for an adult designer. and it was said the fashion industry is out for big money. they could care less about the big girls or how they put them on display. how do you feel about this? >> i am not as outraged. she's stunning. if you hear her story as reported. she was living in a suburb of tel aviv and her mother was working long hours and the money she made is helping the family. you can see the nipples and that bothers me. you made a point about that is an american thing. as someone who grew up in the industry and not like you and to a smaller extent i feel like the pressure that i got from boy

and classmates judging my body hurt me more than an agent saying you should be as small as you can so you can get the next job which they did and i heard. >> i will toot my horn. you were on little house on the prairie and an actress and you have valid points. do you think 14 is too young? >> i think 14 is too young. i have children and i am grateful my children do not want to be part of you know, the hollywood business. but like you said, the family is struggling and i blame the designer for allowing someone at a young age to expose her body. >> what if she were a good

tennis player? we would not have this discussion. >> she would not show her nipples. at 14 this might be her only chance. her body is going to change. >> oppose to her being part of public figures she is exposing her body. >> are their child labor laws? i say that because there have been steps made by the fashion industry. in britain they didn't want models under the age of 16 to walk the cat walk in london's fashion week. but i spent summers in europe it is different culture. there is not shame surrounded by that. >> i think people are backlashing not about the fact she is 14 and working as a super model but she is displaying her

nipples at the age of 14. >> sexualizing a child. and we are commenting over the break saying that is more cultural. in spain, kids are running around topless and in europe they don't have the issue we do. >> but they are running the adds over here. >> there is a difference between enjoying life and culture and being put on display. >> what she said and a lot of people who do this say nudity when it comes to fashion is more art than it is sexualization. i am not letting my 14-year-old go out -- >> you will say is the same on the beaches in greece growing up. they are more comfortable and in their advertising and television

shows. there is not shame surrounding it. so there is not the outrage we are having. >> well if you ever fired off a nasty tweet to someone, you might want to listen up. actor james woods is going after an anonymous twitter user filing a $10 million definition case. we will ask the judge what this means and if he has a case.

>> more "outnumbered" in a moment but first to jon scott on hour two of "happening now." >> hillary clinton speaking in florida today calling for a dramatic change in u.s.-cuba policy facing scrutiny on the u.s. of her private e-mail server. she is getting credit for changing her campaign style as well. we will get into that ahead. ohio governor john kasich is

rising in the polls and giving a speech today. and oil prices are down again as they cut jobs. the dow is up and stocks have had a pretty good week. we have an hour packed full of information ahead on "happening now." andrea? a slew of nasty tweets getting one actor so upset he is making a $10 million case out of and warning anyone who uses social media to take note. james woods is suing an anonymous twitter user who goes by abe listed over a series of post he claims could hurt his reputation claiming cocaine addict james wood is still spouting and you are a ridiculous clown boy.

you are a joke. sounds like my twitter feed. >> we get those tweets every day and laugh. i am sure you get a lot of favorable e-mails or tweets relating to post but you probably get hate tweets generally. do you respond to them? >> when you are critical and talking politics you will get lot of tweets. we have a lot of great fans. mostly possible. but you can see when the left machine starts to deliberately organize target her, you can tell they flood in. and listen, i just block them. my twitter feed is like north korea. there is no free speech on there. block, block, block. someone posted something vile on twitter and tweeted me and someone else. we were like should we respond?

it is better to shut it down. that tweet was screaming pay attention to me. it i googled the person and it was a sweetie -- sweaty pig. >> would you consider tweeting back? >> when someone writes negative about me i generally laugh about it. i read the rules on twitter and i don't think it is appropriate for someone to -- especially this day in age you can say whatever you want. and no one knows who you are. this is an anonymous user. the rules are clear it says you may not engage in abuse. >> ebven if you do close the

account and if twitter goes after them they close the account. or in this case they are concerned. a lot of people are under the mistaken impression if they are anonymous they have freed of speech and that is not true. there is case law saying tweets and post-ings have first amendment protection so the courts require people who want to go after someone post-ingpost-ing anonymous anonymously because there is less credibility it. it is not like the washington post said this. >> what about the cocaine think? >> it is defamation. if you start saying they are a thief or drug user that is defamatory. but the courts cause you to go beyond that and so you have a case. the proof you have a defamation

case against the individual damages as a result, before they will require an isp to release to you the identity -- his weakness is going to be damage. he is going to have to show a court in california he has been defamed and it resulted in damages. maybe someone is not interested in hiring them because they are afraid he is using cocaine. >> i hope he does win. i applaud james wood. take him down. >> guys you have seen it with wives, daughters, girlfrenz the struggle of choosing an outfit. a new study showing how long it takes to chose outfits each week for women.

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amazing. and thank you for being on outnumbered. we'll so you back here monday noon eastern. right now "happening now". >> fox news alert. breaking news on the man that drove in a barricade in the u.s. cant kament. >> the police are filing charges now. nmore e-mails released from hillary clinton's time as secretary of state. new information of class foyed e-mails on a private server? come clean and turn the server over to the ig. >> and so that is screaming. >> it was very scary. >> shark attacks on the rise and putting swimmers at risk. life guards try to s