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that could happen. choice is always better than government's one-size-fits-all solution. that's our show tonight. see you next week. see you next report."next i'm doug mckelway. good night from washington. they they are the lone wolves of terror. >> in the animal world, you have packs of wolves. >> radicalized and bent on murder. >> they took my son. >> jumped out of the car and shot at him ten times. >> and now charged with terror. in chattanooga, an american attacks the u.s. military. >> we heard, boom, boom, boom. >> that suspect soon made his cowardly homicidal intent clear. >> and the debate wages. is it murder?
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violent extremism? or terrorism? >> it's operating outside of the cell structure. the cell struct. the threat of lone wolf terrorists is on everyone's minds. new and new and real threats against the u.s. military here at home. but this type of terrorism is not new. chief intelligence corrt looks at the history behind lone wolf attacks around the world. >> lone wolves are inspired ideologically but may not have a formal connection to a terrorist organization. >> frank salou powe is a director of the homeland security policy at washington university. he's researched the dangerous phenomenon of lone wolf terrorists. >> that's why they're the most difficult cases.
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they're not going to be associated with known terrorists and affiliates. >> director of national intelligence james clapper spoke about the radicalization of lone wolves. >> the problem for us with intelligence is the way people radicalize on their own or are radicalized via social media where they don't leave a signature, publicly there are now investigations in every one of the 50 states, and this is a real -- it's a real worry, a real concern for us. >> the first time i remember really discussing lone wolves is with the so-called unabomber ted kaczynski. timothy mcveigh was one of the first so-called lone wolves. the d.c. sniper, that is clearly a lone case. >> in 2002 the beltway sniper attacks terrorized the capitol.
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this man, nation of islam member along with his accomplice shot 13 people from a 1990 blue chevrolet caprice. >> the seat of the car actually lifted so they're able to crawl into the trufrmg and shoot without ever leaving the vehicle. >> clearly john mohammed was ideologically motivated. >> mohammed was motivated by his hatred of america. after their capture in 2002. his plan was to kill six white as day for a month. as far malveaux himself, he drew these extremist sketches while awaiting trial. today the internet has become indispensable for radicalizing
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lone wolves the. >> there's a very positive side to the internet and some not. >> he inspired countless numbers of people with his online sermons. >> america as a whole has turned into a nation of evil. >> reporter: one follower was this woman, a 21-year-old british student from east london. in the uk lone wolfs are sometimes referred to as nike terrorists or just do it jihadees. she downloaded a hundred of his sermons and then she heeded the call. she tried to kill a member of parliament. these security images show choudary just before the attack and taking on the knife before being tackled by a bodyguard. tims was wounded but survived. >> this was a young woman who was inspired ideologically on
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the internet and acted on her views. >> choudary was. the only individual who was inspire beyond line and acted as a lone wolf. >> obviously at the top of the list is nidal hasan. >> he was looking for religious guidance. like choudary he was inspired by al awlaki. at some point he turned into a lone wolf. he bought a semiautomatic pistol and a large amount of ammunition. on november 5th, 2009. he opened fire on ft. hood, killing 13 and wounding 30 others. >> nidal hasan was clearly motivated. >> now locked up in a disciplinary barracks at ft. leavenworth, kansas, hasan awaiting his sentence. >> there are stel those who are motivate fwid by the awlaki poi
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that bounces around the internet. >> everyone thought he was a normal boy next door but after he killed on july 13th, they found evidence that abdulazeez had been watching videos as well. >> we don't know yet. we're combing tliez his life. >> and the terrorists have put out calls for lone wolf attacks. >> joining us. ali, first to you, does isis have a standing order on the internet to kill? >> yes, they've done it by name where they've collected the penetrations of the internet. they named the families of different members in norfolk, virginia, and the air force base
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oop. this is not just a lone wolf problem. these are lone wolf jihadees. for whatever reason they can't call them radical islamists. they should but they don't. the reality is orders have been given to kill military and policemen and that's what we're seeing happen. >> what we're seeing now is it's up to the discretion of the operatives to the time, place, and method of attack. that means there's no phone call, no texting, today's the day, and that's what makes disrupting these plotss so difficult for the fbi. >> it seems you have the order but we also have if t far more devastating sneak your thing inspiration. that's dangerous. >> the single common denominator of all these cases is the ideology. it tees jihadi ideology in particular. we're seeing much more do it
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yours yourself jihad. they're putting it out and it's up to others to achieve that. colonel north touched on something important. you have to diagnose it correctly and the reality is we're dealing with a threat in this country and we have to acknowledge that and start handling it. >> how are we going to stop it? are we going sit and comb the internet? >> there's a lot of thing use can do that we're dmoingt. we can talk about that later on. most importantly what you have to do is decapitate the snake. the reality is young people are being motivated. some not so young, some a bit older, to join the effort because of the success that isis has enjoyed. before that it was al qaeda. it doesn't matter what they call themselves. they can call themselves al shabaab, al qaeda. it's the philosophy. it's the ideology that motivates
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people to do it and furthermore the successes they've had. if you want to stop it right away, decapitate it. no safe havens for anybody. >> what i hear is they see a revolution going on on then ter net. this generation has been able to establish a contact online that's really inthe i mat, helps them get over the threshold. pre9/11, you had to have the one on one contact. it's not an accident a that the average age of the suspect is 24 years old. this is the target generation that has grown up in this new digital jihad. >> it's the internet. >> it's the internet. not only the spreading of the propaganda but also for trade craft purposes. so what's the difference between al qaeda a few years ago and what we're seeing in terms of
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isis today is the means that they're using to facilitate this information. think of al qaeda as blair which project and xbox. it's rapid and it moves fast and we geesht to do more to push back. >> if there's one final idea, what you also hear from the fbi, a decade ago, sometimes it would take a year or 18 months to do the flash to bang, getting radicalize. now what you're hearing is the flash to bang can be a matterof weeks or even days. come up up next, the attack on chattanooga. it shocked the nation whochl was it shocked the nation whochl was mohammed
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four marines and one navy sailor gunned down in chattanooga by one lone terrorist. surprising information about the shooter. >> silver convertible mustang and he was just unloading some type of large rifle. >> then i heard boom, booming boom. >> i saw people from all the businesses around here, running toward the national guard facility. lots of noise. lots of cars going in every direction. >> he backed up. he took off, came around here and went on down the highway. >> i knew he saw me and i didn't want to get hit, so i pulled off. >> it was another terrorist attack on american soil. july 16th in chattanooga, tennessee. the killer was this man, 24-year-old mohammad youssuf
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abdulazeez. he had been living in the river city since he was 6 years old. >> what kind of kid was he, how did you know him? >> he was a nice kid growing up, knew him since he was an adolescent, and he never caused any problem in the neighborhood. >> reporter: mohammhamuw moham like any kid. >> we knew the mom and dad real well. >> but there were problems in the abdulazeez household. in february 2009 mohammed's mother filed for divorce from her husband citing verbal and physical abuse. she later withdrew after he agreed to counseling. he had also been under investigation for terrorist ties and was on a terrorist watch list. in the seemingly normal american
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college grad with an engineering degree from the university of tennessee began to change. mohammed's diary began showing he was thinking of islamic martyrdom. in 2014 he traveled to jordan to stay with his uncle. >> we'll find out more information. his uncle in jordan has been detained and is being questioned. >> reporter: friends say after he told them he hated isis, he began to change after his trip. he said he learned more about his palestinian background and who he was and where he came from. >> this is something he sort of evolved into, sort of a radicalized in some way. >> mohammed was apparently watching online videos of the deceased american born cleric anwar al awlaki.
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>> we'll look at every aspect of his use of social media. we obviously want to know what his thoughts were and who he was associating with at the time. >> reports show it was accompanied by debt, depression, and alcoholic abuse. at the same time he was practicing his gun skills at this gun range in the hills of chattanooga. he came here with his friends to shoot guns on multiple occasions and perhaps the reason is that unlike the gun clubs in chattanooga, many of whom only allow handguns, here you can use long guns. >> and on july 15th his skills were put to use. that first day he drove to the recruiting center and began shooting. >> when the call came out of a gunman, police officers immediately responded.
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>> reporter: mohammed then drove seven miles to the navy and marine corps reserve center. >> chattanooga police officers immediately began following and chasing that vehicle from the first and second location. >> reporter: at the reserve center, 24 personn duty and those working weren't authorized to carry weapons. a heavily armed mohammed opened fire. >> essentially the officers encountered the suspect at the second location. he began to kill aggressively. mohammad began killing. a fifth victim, petty officer randall smith died two days later. the terrorist was shot by law enforcement on the scene. >> it's crazy to hearen not only your hometown. you never hear about it in your hometown but somebody you went to school with. we're all pretty shocked. >> chattanooga and the entire
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nation mourned the following. >> they're here to recruit and help make our army, navy, marine corps, national guard stronger. it's unfortunate that they have to take it on their own soil. >> i believe all the institutions around the country need to be armed. >> i'm at a loss for words. why would you hurt your own protector. >> fellow service men and womenal grieved. >> when you're in the military, sometimes it does feel like the rest of the nation's not behind you. not only is our community strong, but people respect what we do. >> so was the shooter abdul aziz a terrorist, an zreechlist, or a terrorist, an zreechlist, or just deranged. heartburn! no one burns on my watch!
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the attack in chattanooga killing five members of our military. how could this vicious attack take place on our soil and our military. i'm back with the panel. the description is he was a nice kid, a neighbor, and he goes out and kills five of our military, guns them down. >> clearly he's a terrorist. at the end of the day, one of the things we do want to be able to get more information on given it's an ongoing investigation is whether or not he was further radicalized when he traveled overseas. this is still one of those unanswered questions, vis-a-vis the tsarnaev brothers or the older brother when he went to
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travel to chechnya. we've got people who are willing to travel. those are big numbers. at some point they come home. this is something europe is finding is obviously a major security concern and something we need to be concerned about. >> katherine, he was a, quote, normal kid playing xbox, nice kid in the neighborhood and he has parents who have domestic troubles, but lots of young people have that problem, have parents who are divorced. something happened. >> let's be clear on who the victim was in this. the victims were the five servicemember, not abdulazeez. he was reading and viewing the sermons of the american cleric anwar al awlaki online. there are two who look at those videos. fbi agents trying to find terrorists and terrorists viewing the videos. what we heard from law
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enforcement is they were trying to understand why he was viewing the videos. they should not be disconnecting the dot here. it's clear you only review these videos if you're already radicalized or you're on your way and you're looking for affirmation that violence is the way to go. >> alex, explain to me, please, this business of not arming our military installations. they're sitting ducks. everyone in the world knows they're not armed. now we've made them sitting ducks. >> let me go back to an important point of what catherine and he said. hardened insight. let me just read you do. there's been a lot of bad things about the obama administration and what they failed to. do i'm no fan of the obama administration, but let me read this to you. important point. 15 pages but here it is.
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qualified personnel shall be armed for assigned duties and there's reasonable expectation that dod property or personnel lives or assets will be jeb diezed if not armed. further, the overriding factors in determining whether or not whether to arm them is mission or threat here. here's what that means. commanders, you will protect your troop troops. i'll try not to make it personal. when my wife and children were targeted, the military picked us up and moves us in a home with military agents. every guy in the military is a threat. why aren't the commanders -- >> why aren't they? catherine has said they've been threaten odd on the internet. >> therefore it's not the obama administration doing it. it's the guying wearing blue and green suits and stars in their
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shoulder. >> when you look at this particular issue with the mill tai people say we don't quite understand abdulazeez and what his motivation was. he went to a recruitment center. he sprayed it. if his objective had been to murder as many people as he wanted to, he could have continued. he stopped. then he drove down to a second military base. >> seven miles away. >> that's right. this takes determination, premeditation, and a mission. it's not an accident. to suggest that we don't understand his goal or target is disingenuous. >> can i speak up on it? isis ice spokesperson put out a message, thou shall attack military and law enforcement. they're also specific targets here. one thing we've seen is not only how they utilize social media to propagate their propaganda, but
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they're increasing le use it to counter intelligent on it. >> he's the neighbor you're having a neighborhood barbecue with one day and the next thing something so different. why is he so susceptible the to being radicalized. >> >> no one knows. other than the ideology. once he's viewing videos regularly, whether it's anwar ally kay. >> therefore being able to predict the next attack and there will be another attack is almost impossible. it's great to be able to build a profile 24rks years old average, probably engineering math or science student. but the realts of it is there will be more attacks. so the smart thing to do is protect the people who are going to be the targets. that's the people wearing the uniforms. take them in and put them away.
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>> just one final point. we talk a lot about isis, but about a quarter of the cases are connected to this cleric anwar al awlaki. in 2002 the fbi had him and let him go. i think how history would have been different not only in chattanooga, tennessee, and also in texas. coming up. you're going to hear about one man's cross-country trail of terror that cost four innocent people their lives. stay w benny's the oldest dog in the shelter. he needed help all day so i adopted him. when my back pain flared up, we both felt it. i tried tylenol but it was 6 pills a day. with aleve it's just two pills, all day. now i'm back! aleve. all day strong. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived.
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miles from the plane's last position. malaysian flight 370 disappeared without a trace two years ago. now back to greta investigates. greta van susteren. more news all night long. welcome back to "lone wolves: enemies among us." the greta investigation team has been on this from the beginning. now the accused killer is
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charged with terrorism. in the early morning hours of june 26th, 2014, the body of a 19-year-old livingston, new jersey, resident, brendan tev lynn was found shot do death in the families suv. it was here in this apartment complex in new jersey. home for the summer after his freshman year at the university of richmond, virginia, the popular student and lacrosse player had been shot eight times. >> when brandan's body was found it was collapsed into the floor of the passenger seat. >> reporter: pulitzer prize nominee mark is a veteran journalist for the "star-ledger" newspaper. >> the crime is shocking here in this location. >> reporter: it was on the athletic field where brendan had attended high school that i met up with his grieving parjts
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michael and allison tevlin. he had texted his mother that he was on his way home. >> what time did you get the text about? >> 11:32. >> four hours later the police knocked on their door. i saw the look on his face. i think i grabbed him and said, no, no, not brendan. they said, yeah. brendon. he was murdered. >> the murder of brendon tev lynn had the police baffled. they didn't know what happened. >> what no one new was that a self-proclaimed jihadist took refuge in the surrounding area. living in two makeshift camps was 29-year-old ali mohammad brown. brown is a convicted sex offender with direct ties to a terror camp and radical
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islamists in the pacific northwest. no one knows how but on june 29th he somehow made his way to point pleasant beach 60 miles west of original. >> he attempts to carjack a man outside of the green planet coffee shop. pulled the guy oust the car at gunpoint and realized he couldn't drive a stick shift. >> he left behind a in the men's room where he left behind a nine millimeter with finger prints. >> that's when they searched the ridge and apprehended him. >> it was then that brown made a stunning confession. he said he picked him at random at this intersection as he waited at this traffic light. >> brown jumped out of the car, went to the passenger side and simply opened fire on him and
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shot adam tell times and hit him eight times. >> he described himself to police a muslim and it was a just kill for a payback. on august 14th they announced the arrest of him and two accomplices for the murder of brendan tevlin. they later dropped the charges against the two younger money but in the first of the state of new jersey brown is being charged with terrorism and a host of other offenses. when authorities took a closer look, they realized they had seen just a tip of the iceberg. ballistics testing linked his 9 millimeter handgun to three previous homicides. all three committed on the other side of the country in seattle, washington. on the night of april 27th, 2014. 30-year-old leroy henderson
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walked home when he was murdered in a hail of ten bullets. one month later early in the morning of june 1st two men were murdered in a neighborhood. >> terrorism came to my front door and took my son. >> his mother and grandmother shared memories of the young man. >> he was the son that everybody wanted to have. >> he didn't wait for opportunities to come to him. he created his own opportunity. as he grew into his own, he was struggling with his sexuality and he came out at 14 and he told me that he was guy. >> on the night of may 31st, 2014. his fred ahmed saeed offered him a ride home from the nightclub "our place." ahmed also offered a ride to another man who according to report his e had met the man on the website. that man was mohammuhammad ali .
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>> they got in the car and that's the last that they saw of them alive. these charging documents state he pulled out his 9 millimeter handgun and essentially executed them while inside his vehicle. >> he is a terrorist and he was going to kill him that night. i don't if it's because he had a muslim name and he was gay, i don't know, and he was a bonus kill. >> was he radicalized in a seattle barbershop? stay tuned. there's a more enjoyo get your fiber. try phillips' fiber good gummies plus energy support. it's a new fiber supplement that helps support regularity and includes b vitamins to help convert food to energy. mmmmm, these are good! nice work, phillips! the tasty side of fiber, from phillips'. no articolors,flavors,
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fund-raising for materiel support of terrorism. >> at the scepter of investigation was this 20 x 20 barbershop from hell. he hung out during his teen years with a notorious convicted drug dealer. >> ruben was a recent convert. he was converting a lot of youth. >> i had a piece of that investigation that involved an imam at the mosque. ruben shumpert and others would attend the mosque, and the imam, we surveilled him actually going over to crescent cuts. >> at the time the mosque was 500 feet away from the barbershop. on november 18th, 2004 after a 2 1/2-year investigation t barbershop was raided. >> included awe mem them one
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brown, his two brothers and another co-conspirator on financial institution fraud. >> at the time of the fraud shumpert was already in jail for assaulting the owners of the restaurant below crescent cuts. no one was charged with terrorism. >> there were checks deposited and then with drawing the money. >> he claimed it was to help our muslim brothers and sisters in the cause because you can't go to war broke. he was sentenced to two years. >> they were unable at that time to prove any of the members were sent overseas in materiel support of terrorism. >> in november 2006 the seattle fbi received a phone call from war-torn somalia. it was his past. >> it was just a taunting type of phone call that your efforts
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failed, i win, you lose. >> i'm fighting with good fight with shabab and i intend on reigning down terror on you and your family. >> reporter: two years later he was dead. >> he died in a missile attack. i believe it was by united states foirss on a villa where he was living. >> brown served two years. back in 1999 a then 15-year-old ali mohammad brown may have tried to attend one of the earliest terror training camps on american soil in oregon. >> it was the original inspiration of the converts that we started to investigation around 1998, 1999 with the james u. ma case.
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>> this is dog cry ranch. it was the dream of james. he was convicted on may 14th including some related to this camp and was sentenced to life in prison. >> today the crusade is against islam and they're led by the jews. >> james oojamaa did not learn it from the video. he went straight to them and attempted to bring that back, that original group of converts, some of who stayed on and worked with shumpert in the crescent cuts case. they tried to set up that ranch. >> i believe that brown at some point traveled to bly, oregon. >> they went down there and shot some weapons at the ranch.
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but, again, like a lot of things james did. there wasn't this big follow-through plan. >> i think over time they came to the realization this wasn't a good thing to pursue and came to assist the government in their prosecution of some other individuals in a cell in new york. >> he awaits a hearing on. >> coming up, we ask the panel can you stop terrorists like ali mohammad brown and the shooter in chattanooga. did you know that meeting your daily protein needs actually helps to support your muscle health? boost® high protein nutritional drink can help you get the protein you need. each serving has 15 grams of protein to help maintain muscle, plus 26 vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones.
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we're back with the panel. frank, brendan who was murdered by alli muhammad brown, brown was charged with terrorism. that's big. >> it is big. i think your reporting may have played a significant role in getting people to open their eyes this terms of connecting all of these dots. i do think it's significant. at the end of the day hopefully he gets the death penalty regardless of the what the crime is. it is important because it was an act of terrorism. when others are looking to that sort of activity it should serve as a deterrent. >> we don't know it's terrorism until we have a whole string of homicides before we can go back at look at the clues. >> that's not preemption. it's difficult to do when you
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have ways of convincing young people to join this movement when you can't even name the movement. >> what is with that? radical islam -- >> you and i know what it is. it's like pornography, you know it when you see it. >> why can't they say that? >> based on the reporting what i see is a growing daylight between the fbi and the white house. the fbi director has been very up front, very public speaking to reporters on the record about the nature of the threat and fact he cannot stop it. my understanding is that it really comes from the white house and i believe the president himself not wanting members of his administration to use the term radical islam. fbi director is in a slightly different position because he's looking at another eight years. >> it's hard to defeat something if you can't identify it.
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if you can't look what the appropriate tools are to address it. to give you sense of scope, there's been 60 cases this year. that's a more up tempo. >> in the united states? >> these are home grown in terms of plots in the u.s. or americans attempting to travel overseas to join us with isis and other foreign terrorist organizations. this is significant. these are big numbers. these aren't onesies and twosies. this is something that maybe your viewers can play a role. at the end of the day everyone can play a role in identifying and flagging this material bringing it to the authorities to actually start taking it down so you can collect the information, which we need to be able to do. you can shut some of this down. some will say it's like whack a mole but we still have to move in that direction or we can push back. i'm a little bit of all three. think of negative political
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campaigning. we've got to be able to expose the hypocrisy, the lies and attack thenemy. >> you have to be able to decapitate the leaders of these. it proves they can't win. number two and back to what i said earlier, that is harden the target. they don't go after easy targets. they go after easy targets and not hard targets. protect those who are targeted. >> when frank talks about the 60th this year, i imagine if we put this up against last year and the year before, more of this is going up. how is that being received at the fbi, at the white house, these numbers are growing? >> based on our reporting there's been a significant shift since ft. hood. beginning in 2009 you start to see increasing examples of the targeting of the military and next logical step we have seen
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with icy which is specifically saying military and law enforcement, as frank indicated. there's a real sense of unease that they cannot prevent these types of attacks in the future. it was just three years ago that we averaged case about every three or four weeks. that number has doubled and that is really significant. >> if we're calling it workplace violence, i think that was sort of the word around for a while at fot. hood, you really are no facing your enemy. >> calling ft. hood workplace environment was clearly an error. it was this year. >> an error is that how they were thinking? big difference. >> i believe they were trying to package it as workplace violence but the reporting sheer at fox showed there were direction connections between the shooter and yemen. in tend congress acting and the victims and their families at ft. hood as well as the arkansas
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