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violent extremism or terrorism? >> they're completely operating outside the cell structure. now, is from from studio j at fox headquarters, here is greta. >> the threat of lone wolf terrorism is on everyone's mind. but this type of terrorism is not new. chief intelligent correspondent catherine harris looks inside the world of lone wolf attacks around the world. >> lone wolf, by and large, are individuals that are inspired idea logically but may not have a formal connection to a terrorist organization. >> frank saluppo is the director of the homeland security policy institute at george washington university. he has researched the very dangerous phenomenon of lone wolf terrorists. >> that's why these are some of the most difficult cases, because they're not necessarily
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going to come under terror surveillance, won't be interact aing with terrorist organizationes and affiliates. >> at the security forum, director of national intelligence, james clapper, spoke about the radicalization of lone wolf. >> the probl intelligence is with the way people radicalize on their own or radicalize via social media, where they don't lead a signature, publicly they are now investigations in every one of the 50 states. and this is a real -- it's a real worry, a real concern for us the. >> the first time i remember really discussing lone wolf is with the unibomber, ted kaczynski. timothy mcveigh was one of the so-called first lone wolfs. the d.c. sniper, that is clearly a lone case. >> in 2002, the beltway
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terrorized the capital. >> i was working at the white house. it clearly had a significant psychological effect. >> they shot 13 people in the d.c. area killing ten. the seat of the car actually lifts so that malvo or mahammed were able to crawl into the trunk and shoot without ever leaving the vehicle. >> really, he was idealogically moerveated. >> mohammed wasn't a member of the terrorist organization, but he was motivated by his hatereceipt of america. after the two were captured in october 2002, malveau testified it was extremist.
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>> it also connects, unfortunately, to very dark corners of the west. >> there are ominous clouds gathering in your horizon. >> anwar alamaki with his online sermon. >> america as a whole has turned into a nation of evil. >> one follower was this woman, rashawana, a 21-year-old british student from east london. in the uk, lone wolfs are sometimes referred to as nike terrorists, or just do it gee haddy. on may 14th, 2010, choudry heeded the call. she tried to kill steven thames as he met with his constituents. these security camera images show chaudry just before the attack then taking out the knife before being tackled by a bodyguard. thames was wounded, but survived. >> this was a young woman who was inspired idealogically on
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the internet and acted on her views. >> choudry wasn't the only individual who was inspired jn line and acted as a lone wolf. >> obviously, at the top of the list is nadal hasan. >> nadal what shasan at some po turned into a lone wolf. he bought an fn-570 semi automatic pistol and a large amount of ammunition. on november 5th, 2009, he opened fire on ft. hood, killing 13 and wounding 30 others. >> nadal hasan was clearly idealogically motivated. >> now in the disciplinary barracks. the video may have played a role in the trimp terrorist attacks in chattanooga, tennessee. >> there are still those motivated by the alaki poison
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that bounces around the the internet. >> everyone thought mohammed abduleeze was the boy next door. >> there was a call put out for lone wolf toes attack. >> they're playing a psychiatric logical war. we have to call them for what they are. >> joining us, lieutenant current oliver north, catherine harris and frank salufo. does isis have a standing order on the internet to kill? >> yes. they've done it by name in some cases where they've collected the names of these penetrations of the internet. they've actually named the families of members of certain units down in norfolk, virginia, and eggland air force base. look, it's not just a lone wolf problem.
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these are solo jihadys. for whatever reason, the administration can't call them radical islamists. they should, but they don't. the reality is orders have been issued to kill american policemen, military personnel and their dependents and that's what we're seeing happen. >> i was going to say, one of the key things we're seeing now with the standing order is that it's up to the discretion of the operatives with the time, place and method of attack when they think they're going to have the best method of success. that means no phone call, no texting today is the day and that's what made disrupting these plots so difficult for the fbi. >> it seems to me you had the direct order, that's one thing. but we had the far more devastating or sneakier thing, the inspiration. that's dangerous. >> the single common denominator of all these cases is the ideology. it's the jihady of the ideology. we are seeing more do it
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yourself jihad. so they're putting out, in essence, the objective and then it's up to others to figure out how to achieve that objective. and i think colonel north touched on something that's important. before you can get to a prognosis, you have to diagnose it correctly. and the reality is we are dealing with a threat in this country and we have to acknowledge that and start handling it. >> so how do we stop it? are we all going to sit and comb the internet? >> there's a lot of things you can do in terms of force protection that we're not doing. we'll talk about that later on. most importantly, you have to decapitate the -- the reality is that young people have been motivated, some not so young, some a bit older to join this effort because of the success that isis has enjoyed and before that it was al qaeda. it doesn't matter what they call themselves. they can call themselves al shab shabab, abu shaieff. it's the ideology that motivates
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people to do it and furthermore, the successes of that. if you want to stop the problem right away, decapitate it. no safe hachs for any of them. >> what i hear particularly from law enforcement is they see something about fundamental revolution going on on the internet. this generation that's grown up with social networking and social media is able to establish a contact online that is really intimate, helps them get over there threshold to violence. >> when you look at the majority of cases, it's not an accident that the average age of the suspect is 24 years old. this is the target generation that has grown up in this digital jihad. >> so it's the internet? >> the internet play aes significant role in spreading the propaganda, but for trade craft purposes.
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what is different is the means by which they're if a sill dating this information. think of al qaeda as blair witch project, think of isis has hollywood, as xbox. it's rapid and it moves fast and we have to do more to push back. >> if there's one final idea, what you hear from the fbi is that a decade ago, it would sometimes take a year, 18 months for someone to do the flash to bang, getting radicalized and committing an act of violence. now what you hear from fbi director comi is that the flash to bang can be a matter of weeks or even days. coming up next, the attack on our military in chattanooga. it shocked the nation. who was mohammed abdulazeez and could he have been stopped? whose ready to have a baby? buster posey? you're not my doctor... c'mon. i'm sorta your doctor. i mean we both wear gloves and we always deliver in the clutch. gloves. clutch. no, sorry.
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four marines and one navy s.e.a.l. are gunned down in chattanooga by a lone wolf terrorists. surprising information about the shooter. >> reporter: the silver convertible mustang and he was just unloading some type of large rifle. >> then we heard boom, boom, boom. >> i saw people from all the businesses around here running toward the national guard facility. lots of noise. lots of cars going every direction. >> put another set of ten or 20 in the window. he backed up, took off and came around here. >> i know he had saw me and i didn't want to get hit, so i pulled off. >> it was another terrorist attack on american soil. july 16th in chattanooga, tennessee. the killer was this man, 24-year-old mohammad youssuf
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abdulazeez. he had been living in this area. >> he was a nice kid growing up and he never caused any trouble in the neighborhood. >> mohammad, like any american boy growing up in tennessee, he often referred to himself as the arabian redneck. >> we used to go play xbox and hang out. >> it was really a nice family. i was really surprised that anything would happen. we knew the mom and dad real well. >> but there were problems in the abdulazeez household. in february 2009, mohammad a's mother filed for divorce from her husband citing verbal and physical abuse. she later withdrew the complain after the elder abdulazeez agreed to counseling. he was on a terrorist watch
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list. in the seemingly normal american college grad with an engineering degree from tennessee began to change. mohammad's diary show he was thinking about islamic martyrdom as early as 2013. >> the investigation is ongoing, so we'll find out more information as that. the uncle in jordan has been detained and is being questioned. >> friends say he learned more about his palestinian background and was enlightened about who he was and where he came from. >> this is something that he sort of evolved into, sort of a radical, radicalized some way. >> mohammad was watching online videos of the deceased american born cleric anwar alwaki.
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>> we obviously wanted to know what his thaupts thoughts were and/or who else he was associated with at the time. >> reports indicate that his conversion to radical islam was accompanied by heavy drug and alcohol abuse, including a dui arrest in april of this year. at the same time, he was practicing his gun skills at this gun range in the hills of chattanooga. >> he came here with his friends to shoot guns on multiple occasions and perhaps the reason was because unlike the gun clubs outside of chattanooga, many of whom only allow handguns, here you can fire a long rifle. on july 16th, the skills he learned there were put to use. that day, mohammad first drove to the armed forces career center and began shooting. fred fletcher, chattanooga police chief, spoke of the response. >> when the call came out of a gunman, police officers immediately responded. >> mohammad drove serve miles to
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the navy and marine corps reserve center. chattanooga police officers immediately began following and chasing that vehicle between the first and second location. >> at the reserve center, 20 uniformed personnel were on duty and those working weren't authorized to carry weapons. a heavily armed mohammad opened fire. >> eventually, officers he co t encounterered the suspect at the second location. they engaged that suspect aggressively. >> mohammad killed sergeant carson holmquist, lance corporal squire wells, petty officers smith was killed two days later. the terrorist was shot by law enforcement on the scene. >> you never hear about it in your hometon, but someone you went to school with. we're all pretty shocked. >> chattanooga and the entire
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nation mourned the fall. >> they're here to recruit and help make our army, navy, marine corps, national guard stronger. they take a loss and it's unfortunate they have to take it on their own soil. >> i certainly believe all military installations around this country need to be armed. so it doesn't happen again. >> i'm at a loss for words. why would you hurt your own protectors? >> those service men and women also grieved. >> when you're in the military, sometimes it does feel like the rest of the nation is not behind you. not only is our community strong, but people respect what we do. >> so is the shooter abdulazeez a terrorist, an extremist or just deranged? our panel is here next. zreechli just deranged. what to do when you're stranded in a city and you need a last minute hotel? a priceline tonight only deal!
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the attack in chattanooga killing five members of our military. how could this vicious attack take place on our soil and against our military? i'm back with the panel. frank, can you listen to the scripts, everyone says he's a nice kid, he's a neighbor. then he goes out and kills five of our military, guns them down. >> clearly, he's a terrorist. and at the end of the day, one of the things we do want to be able to get more information on, given it's an ongoing investigation, is whether or not he was further radicalized when he traveled overseas. this was still -- this is still one of those unanswered questions vis-a-vis the tsarnaev brothers, as well, at least the older brother when he went to
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travel in chechnya. we have americans who have traveled or attempted to travel to be alongside isis in syria. at some point, they come home. europe is finding this is obviously a major security risk and we need to be concerned. >> catherine, he was sourt of a, quote, normal kid. he was a nice kid in the neighborhood and he has parents who have domestic troubles, but lots of young people have that problem, some parents that are divorced. something happened. let's be clear on who the victim was in this. the victims were the five service members not abdulazeez. he was reading and viewing the sermons of the american cleric anwar al awaki online. fbi investigators who are trying to find terrorists and terrorists view those videos, okay? what we heard from some members
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of law enforcement was that it was trying to understand why he was viewing the videos. they should not be disconnecting the dots here. re. it's clear you only review these videos if you're already radicalized or you're on your way and you're looking for affirmation that violence is the way to go. >> alex, explain to me, please, this business of not arming our military installations. they're sitting ducks. everyone in the world knows they're not armed. now we've made them sitting ducks. >> let me go back to an important point of what catherine and he said. hardened insight. let me just read you do. there's been a lot of bad things about the obama administration and what they failed to. do i'm no fan of the obama administration, but let me read this to you. important point. 15 pages but here it is.
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qualified personnel shall be armed for assigned duties and there's reasonable expectation that dod property or personnel lives or assets will be jeb diezed if not armed. further, the overriding factors in determining whether or not whether to arm them is mission or threat here. here's what that means. commanders, you will protect your troop troops. i'll try not to make it personal. when my wife and children were targeted, the military picked us up and moves us in a home with military agents. every guy in the military is a threat. why aren't the commanders -- >> why aren't they? catherine has said they've been threaten odd on the internet. >> therefore it's not the obama administration doing it. it's the guying wearing blue and green suits and stars in their
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shoulder. >> when you look at this particular issue with the mill tai people say we don't quite understand abdulazeez and what his motivation was. he went to a recruitment center. he sprayed it. if his objective had been to murder as many people as he wanted to, he could have continued. he stopped. then he drove down to a second military base. >> seven miles away. >> that's right. this takes determination, premeditation, and a mission. it's not an accident. to suggest that we don't understand his goal or target is disingenuous. >> can i speak up on it? isis ice spokesperson put out a message, thou shall attack military and law enforcement. they're also specific targets here. one thing we've seen is not only how they utilize social media to propagate their propaganda, but
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they're increasing le use it to counter intelligent on it. >> he's the neighbor you're having a neighborhood barbecue with one day and the next thing something so different. why is he so susceptible the to being radicalized. >> >> no one knows. other than the ideology. once he's viewing videos regularly, whether it's anwar ally kay. >> therefore being able to predict the next attack and there will be another attack is almost impossible. it's great to be able to build a profile 24rks years old average, probably engineering math or science student. but the realts of it is there will be more attacks. so the smart thing to do is protect the people who are going to be the targets. that's the people wearing the uniforms. take them in and put them away.
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>> just one final point. we talk a lot about isis, but about a quarter of the cases are connected to this cleric anwar al awlaki. in 2002 the fbi had him and let him go. i think how history would have been different not only in chattanooga, tennessee, and also in texas. coming up. you're going to hear about one man's cross-country trail of terror that cost four innocent people their lives. people their lives. stay w new york state is reinventing how we do business people their lives. stay w by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state pay no taxes for 10 years. all to grow our economy and create jobs.
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island in the indian ocean last week. flight 370 disappeared more than a year ago with 239 people on board. tragedy in northern california. a firefighter from south dakota is killed while helping fight a wildfire in the modock national forest. there are more than 20 fires burning across california right now. around 9,000 firefighters battling them. the largest fire is in the lower lake area north of san francisco. it's only 5% contained and has scorched 40 square miles. now back to greta investigates. greta van susteren. more news all night long. welcome back to "lone wolves: enemies among us." the greta investigation team has been on this from the beginning. now the accused killer is
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charged with terrorism. in the early morning hours of june 26th, 2014, the body of a 19-year-old livingston, new jersey, resident, brendan tev lynn was found shot do death in the families suv. it was here in this apartment complex in new jersey. home for the summer after his freshman year at the university of richmond, virginia, the popular student and lacrosse player had been shot eight times. >> when brandan's body was found it was collapsed into the floor of the passenger seat. >> reporter: pulitzer prize nominee mark is a veteran journalist for the "star-ledger" newspaper. >> the crime is shocking here in this location. >> reporter: it was on the athletic field where brendan had attended high school that i met up with his grieving parjts
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michael and allison tevlin. he had texted his mother that he was on his way home. >> what time did you get the text about? >> 11:32. >> four hours later the police knocked on their door. i saw the look on his face. i think i grabbed him and said, no, no, not brendan. they said, yeah. brendon. he was murdered. >> the murder of brendon tev lynn had the police baffled. they didn't know what happened. >> what no one new was that a self-proclaimed jihadist took refuge in the surrounding area. living in two makeshift camps was 29-year-old ali mohammad brown. brown is a convicted sex offender with direct ties to a terror camp and radical
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islamists in the pacific northwest. no one knows how but on june 29th he somehow made his way to point pleasant beach 60 miles west of original. >> he attempts to carjack a man outside of the green planet coffee shop. pulled the guy oust the car at gunpoint and realized he couldn't drive a stick shift. >> he left behind a bag in the men's room where he left behind a nine millimeter with finger prints. >> that's when they searched the ridge and apprehended him. >> it was then that brown made a stunning confession. he said he picked him at random at this intersection as he waited at this traffic light. >> brown jumped out of the car, went to the passenger side and simply opened fire on him and
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shot adam tell times and hit him eight times. >> he described himself to police a muslim and it was a just kill for a payback. on august 14th they announced the arrest of him and two accomplices for the murder of brendan tevlin. they later dropped the charges against the two younger money but in the first of the state of new jersey brown is being charged with terrorism and a host of other offenses. when authorities took a closer look, they realized they had seen just a tip of the iceberg. ballistics testing linked his 9 millimeter handgun to three previous homicides. all three committed on the other side of the country in seattle, washington. on the night of april 27th, 2014. 30-year-old leroy henderson
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walked home when he was murdered in a hail of ten bullets. one month later early in the morning of june 1st two men were murdered in a neighborhood. >> terrorism came to my front door and took my son. >> his mother and grandmother shared memories of the young man. >> he was the son that everybody wanted to have. >> he didn't wait for opportunities to come to him. he created his own opportunity. as he grew into his own, he was struggling with his sexuality and he came out at 14 and he told me that he was guy. >> on the nig 31st, 2014. his fred ahmed saeed offered him a ride home from the nightclub "our place." ahmed also offered a ride to another man who according to report his e had met the man on the website. that man was mohammuhammad ali .
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>> they got in the car and that's the last that they saw of them alive. these charging documents state he pulled out his 9 millimeter handgun and essentially executed them while inside his vehicle. >> he is a terrorist and he was going to kill him that night. i don't if it's because he had a muslim name and he was gay, i don't know, and he was a bonus kill. >> was he radicalized in a seattle barbershop? stay tuned.
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our team digs deeper into brown's past in seattle. we found more crimes authorities say he committed. take a look. ali mohammad brown left a trail of depraved crime and violence. court documents show mr. brown was charged with child rape before pleading guilty to three lesser counts of communication with a minor for immoral purposes. david gomez and david rubicon are former members of the joint terror task force. >> they were looking at the
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fund-raising for materiel support of terrorism. >> at the scepter of investigation was this 20 x 20 barbershop from hell. he hung out during his teen years with a notorious convicted drug dealer. >> ruben was a recent convert. he was converting a lot of youth. >> i had a piece of that investigation that involved an imam at the mosque. ruben shumpert and others would attend the mosque, and the imam, we surveilled him actually going over to crescent cuts. >> at the time the mosque was 500 feet away from the barbershop. on november 18th, 2004 after a 2 1/2-year investigation t barbershop was raided. >> included awe mem them one
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brown, his two brothers and another co-conspirator on financial institution fraud. >> at the time of the fraud shumpert was already in jail for assaulting the owners of the restaurant below crescent cuts. no one was charged with terrorism. >> there were checks deposited and then with drawing the money. >> he claimed it was to help our muslim brothers and sisters in the cause because you can't go to war broke. he was sentenced to two years. >> they were unable at that time to prove any of the members were sent overseas in materiel support of terrorism. >> in november 2006 the seattle fbi received a phone call from war-torn somalia. it was his past. >> it was just a taunting type of phone call that your efforts
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failed, i win, you lose. >> i'm fighting with good fight with shabab and i intend on reigning down terror on you and your family. >> reporter: two years later he was dead. >> he died in a missile attack. i believe it was by united states foirss on a villa where he was living. >> brown served two years. back in 1999 a then 15-year-old ali mohammad brown may have tried to attend one of the earliest terror training camps on american soil in oregon. >> it was the original inspiration of the converts that we started to investigation around 1998, 1999 with the james u.
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ma case. >> this is dog cry ranch. it was the dream of james. he was convicted on may 14th including some related to this camp and was sentenced to life in prison. >> today the crusade is against islam and they're led by the jews. >> james oojamaa did not learn it from the video. he went straight to them and attempted to bring that back, that original group of converts, some of who stayed on and worked with shumpert in the crescent cuts case. they tried to set up that ranch. >> i believe that brown at some point traveled to bly, oregon. >> they went down there and shot some weapons at the ranch.
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but, again, like a lot of things james did. there wasn't this big follow-through plan. >> i think over time they came to the realization this wasn't a good thing to pursue and came to assist the government in their prosecution of some other individuals in a cell in new york. >> he awaits a hearing on. >> coming up, we ask the panel can you stop terrorists like ali mohammad brown and the shooter in chattanooga. my scalp hurts. my hair hurts. this is what it can be like to have shingles. a painful, blistering, rash. if you had chickenpox, the shingles virus is already inside you. 1 in 3 people will get shingles in their lifetime.
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we're back with the panel. frank, brendan tevlin who was murdered by aly mohammad brown, that was terrorism, wasn't it and that's big. >> it is big. your reporting may have played a significant role in getting people to open their eyes in terms of connect all of these dots. so i do think it's significant. at the end of the day, hopefully he gets the death penalty regardless of the crime. but it is important because it was an act of terrorism. when others are looking to that activity, it should serve as a deterrent. >> the awful thing is we don't know it's terrorism until we go back and look at the clues. >> that's not preelse. it's very, very difficult to do particular whi when you've got
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ways of convincing young people to join this movement when you can't even name the movement. >> what is with that. i mean radical islam -- >> look it. you and i know what it is. it's like pornography. i know it when i see it. this is terrorism. it is radical islamic terrorism. they can't say the name at the white house. >> why can't they say that, catherine? >> i'll tell you why. >> based on what i see is a growing gap between the president and the white house. fbi director james comey has been very important up front that he knows about the nature of the tlut behe can't understand it. my understanding sit comes from the white house and the president himself not wants members of his administration to use the term read cal islam. the fbi director is in another position.
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>> it's hard to defeat something if you can't identify it. so to given you a sense of scope, there have been 60 cases this year. that's a higher up-tempo than -- >> 60 dayses in the united states. >> in the united states. these are either home grown case in plans to join up with isis and other foreign terrorist associations. these are significant. these aren't onesies or twosies anymore. we've got to address it. this is something maybe your viewers can play a role. at the end of the day, everyone can play a role in terms of identifying and flagging the material and bringing it to the authorities to take it down so you can collect the information so you're able to do it. you can shut it down. some say it's like whack a mole. or we can push back. i'm a little bit of all three.
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but they of negative political campaigning. we've got to be able to expose the hypocrisy, the lies, and attack the enemy. >> and you're got to get to the leader. the leader is clearly gone. if he's gone it makes it more difficult to find the success early. we go back to what we said earlier. harden the target. they don't go after the hard target. proteblt those who are targeted. we're not doing it. >> when frank talks about the 60 this year, i imagine if we put this up last year, this is happening more often than not. how is that being received at the fbi, the white house? >> i think based on our reporting there's been a very significant shift since ft. hood. beginning in 2009 you start seeing the increasing examples of the targeted military that
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we've seen with isis. there's a real sense of unease that they cannot prevent these types of attacks in the future because it was just -- it was just three years ago that we averaged a case about every three or four weeks. number has doubled and that is really significant. >> but if we're calling it workplace violence and i they this was sort of the word bandied around at ft. hood. you're really not facing your enemy if you think that's what it is. >> calling ft. hood a workplace violence was an error. >> an error? >> there were direct connections between the shooter and yemen and in the end congress acted ts at ft. hood at well as those at
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the shooting. >> it was treated as terrorism. >> yes. >> thank you. keep watching fox news cham and go to you feel about your car. so when coverage really counts, you can count on nationwide. because what's precious to you is precious to us. just another way we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side now? can i at least put my shoes on? if your bladder is calling the shots ... you may have a medical condition called overactive bladder ... ...or oab you've got to be kidding me. i've had enough! it's time to talk to the doctor.
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