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more about? marta wants to know more about ben carlson since she believes he's an outsider. steve wants to hear about donald trump's economic and foreign policies. i bet you will on thursday night and so much more. thanks for sending in those questions and thanks for being part of "the real story" today. i'm gretchen carlson. here's shep. >> a bloody crusade against the u.s. government. that's what prosecutors say a suspect had planned when he killed a college student in new jersey. now and today he faces charges of terrorism. the first case of its kind in new jersey. then a frantic manhunt for an accused killer. investigators say he may be linked to a kidnapping and series of shootings, one of which targeted law enforcement. plus wildfires in the american west spreading faster than crews can fight. families on the verge of losing everything they own and the fires so huge you can see them from space. we have the pictures on a busy news day. let's get to it.
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and the breaking news from camp shelby in south mississippi. reports that somebody has opened fire on a group of soldiers at their training base, camp shelby. happened at that heavily fortified camp of about 200 square miles inside across two and a half counties. it is south of hattiesburg. according to local media, nobody was wounded in the shooting. the county sheriff of perry county tells local television station wdam that they are looking for two suspects. investigators say the men were in a two-door red ford ranger with "broken arrow" written across the top. they fired and sped away. according to reports, there's been a large training exercise under way there for a number of days. active duty soldiers and reservists from texas and north mississippi in the town of tupelo. we further know civilians have been allowed in to watch these training exercises, including field medical procedures. so on a hot day in south mississippi, apparently someone has opened fire.
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nobody has been hit. this is of extreme urgency in south mississippi. a united states military facility with shots fired on our own, updates as we get them throughout this news hour. first, though, the stage is set for the first gop debate thursday night right here on fnc. but the candidates, along with the rest of us, still don't know who will make the cut for that primetime showdown. with 17 contenders, the most in modern political history, only ten, ten or so, will get a spot on the main event. everybody else will face off in a different debate on that same afternoon. 5:00 eastern, the smaller debate. 9:00 eastern time, the big debate here on fox news channel on thursday night. the rules state that the top ten will come from an average of recent national polls that came out that day. we have the final fox news poll -- fox news poll but this isn't the decider. we'll use oar pother polls as w. one thing seems certain here, donald trump will be front and
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center. his support among republican voters is at an all-time high of 26%. a statistical tie for second place, jeb bush and scott walker. ben carson, i should say, all within a margin of error. it's the margin of error that causes problems because who knows the margin of error down at the bottom. donald trump's huge lead comes even as poll after poll shows he would not stand a chance against hillary clinton in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup should one happen today. that fox news poll may explain why trump's support keeps rising. it finds that the number one quality that republican voters say they're looking for in a candidate is a strong leader. only 13% say they wanted a republican who can defeat the democratic nominee. think of that. the poll also shows which contender would see the biggest boost if trump dropped out of the race. according again to our fox news survey of republican voters, jeb bush would jump to the top spot with 20%. now, that is not what we had expected all along.
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it's a statistical tie for second place with all of these candidates you see highlighted in a statistical tie. would you hook at the statistical tie there. all of those people in red on the left-hand side of your screen, all of them in a statistical tie. carl cameron is with us now in washington. carl, the interesting thing to me is i had not been reporting this because i did not know this but i've been watching on other channels all day that say that should this tie be statistical, should it be so close there could be 11 people on the stage instead of ten. is this a true thing? >> it was something that was talked about early on that i overheard. who knows what the decision will ultimately be. this is a length i process and there's a tremendous amount of work going into it. we hope to get the final tally later tonight. the fact is these candidates have been working real hard themselves prepping for this debate. jeb bush's aides say he's been intensive tively working at it
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donald trump's aides say he hasn't been working on it at all. there's the southern baptist convention under way in nashville, one of the biggest gatherings of christian conservatives in the country and often they settle the early caucuses in iowa. both marco rubio and jeb bush are going to go there, principally to weigh in with a very, very important block of republicans. 14 out of the 17 gop candidates took part at a high-speed cattle call last night in new hampshire. another big event, all crammed into the same week with the fox debate. each had a brief interview about five minutes. a packed house. and it illustrated how difficult it is to get more than ten candidates on the stage in one evening. it was real busy and they shuttled up there. donald trump was a no-show. he told the "union leader" is the reason he wasn't coming because they wernen't going to endorse them. in new hampshire they tend to resent it when they're glossed over like that.
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no winner or loser. it may have helped some of them shortening their answers because on thursday night their answers will be time limited. 60 seconds for answers and 30 seconds for a rebuttal if somebody mentions your name, shep. >> all of the people who do the talking in the television box have different theories about who's helped by what. i'm hearing that those who don't make this primetime debate, that there is an advantage for them. what is that? >> first of all, those folks not likely to make the top ten, for instance, carly fiorina has been talking about there's going to be a lot more debates. there's going to be at least six. the truth of the matter is being in the 5:00 p.m. event instead of the primetime event with donald trump means there is the possibility of fewer trump-like antics at 5:00 p.m. and that might lend itself to a more substantive debate. furthermore, it's entirely possible that something that's said in the 5:00 p.m. event will actually be referenced or even replayed in primetime debate so that the candidates can talk about it.
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the truth of the matter is this debate might winnow the field a little bit the way the straw poll used to do in all the augusts in the past this time of year. already some of the candidates are already saying five more debates coming, the actual calendar is very short next year when the primaries begin. it will only be about six and a half weeks before the vast majority of the delegates are selected so there's almost a decemb disincentive for people to not stay in. let's bring in a reporter for realclearpolitics.com. outside of our circle of real people that have to watch these, i don't know anybody who's thinking about an election that's happening well more than a year from now. i do know a billion people who want to talk about donald trump. >> i think that's why a lot of people will tune into these debates. >> for trump. >> for trump. the debates, they don't
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necessarily make or break candidates, although we saw with rick perry kind of the trouble you can get into if you don't do well. this is the first time voters are seeing all of these candidates on the same stage, as many as they can fit in that primetime slot. it's an opportunity for these candidates to really introduce themselves to voters. they have been campaigning in early states. some of them have been campaigning across the country but haven't really been in this type of format where they have to answer questions on specific policy and where that's directly televised. >> so you think donald trump will answer questions on specific policy? >> actually, that will be one of the most interesting things of this debate. we've been talking a lot -- >> it will be a lot less interesting if he does. >> we've been talking about how these candidates are maneuvering around him, trying to work out a strategy including him in these debates, but i do think the pressure is going to be on donald trump to answer policy questions. we've seen him rise in the polls. >> why would he do that? seriously, why would he do that? >> there's a thought that
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perhaps he needs to signal to his constituency that he is really serious about this before they go perhaps on to another candidate. he's leading in the polls. the media is starting to take him seriously, even though it's been a little while. it's a time for him for anyone that hasn't seen that for him to show that he's serious about this. >> this laughable website just put out his phone number the other day. what did he do, but turn that into a campaign commercial. you dial the phone number and you hear donald trump telling you all about why you should vote for him. he doesn't need to talk policy, he just needs to keep being donald trump, doesn't he? >> and he didn't go to that forum yesterday. >> wonder why? think about it. speculate for me. >> if that's your one-on-one time, you have a few minutes but they were asked questions about -- >> now, wait. he says he didn't do it because he's upset with the union leader and he's been dissed up there in new hampshire. i think he wants his big splash to be right here on the fnc which is where he's gotten all of his time overall.
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he was on fox & friends, our people know him, he's been here forever. why not make your first splash on the fnc. you know what i think he's going to do? i guarantee you, i don't know nothing. but i will think what he'll do is be kind of statesman-like. why not? but not answer questions about policy because he doesn't know anything about policy. >> well, i think there's a certain amount of defying some expectations in that regard. these candidates preparing for the debate have planned for him to kind of go on the attack. he says that he's not going to do that unless provoked. so it will be interesting to see if he does, you know, act presidential, so to speak. if he doesn't take shots at his colleagues, his rivals, and really focuses on his own campaign. >> i can't wait to watch it. the early game with the also rans, 5:00 eastern time, 4:00 in oxford right here on the fnc. right here at 9:00, 9:00 in the morning, normal megyn kelly
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time, they will ask questions of all the top ten or whatever it is and sometime later today we're going to announce who the people in the primetime debate are. i don't know who the we is because i don't know, but sometime they'll answer that question. i don't know in what way they'll answer it, but you should sit right there, watch this channel and eventually we'll tell you who is going to be in there, i promise. first, though, breaking news and serious stuff out of south mississippi. officials now confirm to fox news that officers are responding to these police reports of shots fired on a group of united states soldiers. this happened at the heavily fortified camp shelby in south mississippi. the states largest newspaper is the clarion ledger. it's based in jackson and it's reporting that deputies moments ago found a truck that matches one of the suspects seen riding away in it. remember that, according to local media. nobody was wounded in any way in this shooting. the county sheriff in perry county tells a local television
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station wdam they're looking for two suspects. again, a vehicle has been found, but the suspects, according to everything we've heard, have not yet been found in relation to this shooting at camp shelby. updates immediately as we get them. thousands of firefighters now trying to keep california's biggest wildfire under control and they say it's growing much faster than they had anticipated. now the white house says president obama has asked aides to stay in touch with the state's governor. we're live on the fire line with breaking news ahead. this is fox news channel. ♪ irresistible moments deserve irresistibles treats. new from meow mix with real salmon chicken or tuna. the only treat cats ask for by name. ...is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners... were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online... ...from a list of top rated providers.
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now i'm back! aleve. all day strong. wildfire alert and the largest wildfire in california is now threatening thousands of homes. thousands now after it jumped a containment line. that's according to emergency officials in northern california, where they say over the past six days a massive fire has burned more than 101 square miles. roughly the size of the city of sacramento, twice the size of san francisco. officials say it's destroyed at least 24 homes and 13,000 people are under some sort of evacuation order. crews say this wildfire tripled in size over the weekend. the wildfire eating up extremely dry brush around a lower lake, which as you can see is north of san francisco in northern california. officials say it's one of more than 20 wildfires now burning in the drought-stricken state.
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and some of these wildfires are so big you can actually see them from space. look at this. again, this is from nasa. see up there, it's an image from nasa showing several fires in oregon and california. this is from yesterday. you can clearly see the smoke and the brown over there. claudia cowan is live from lake port. claudia, this has gotten much worse. >> reporter: it really has. this fire is vexing because it isn't behaving the way wildfires typically behave. for instance, at one point over the weekend, the flames just took off pretty late in the day, after 5:00 p.m., and that's a time when fires usually start to quiet down, but this one just roared through 20,000 acres in five hours. it usually takes a week for a fire to consume that much land. cal fire officials say that is unprecedented. given the heat and rugged terrain, much of this firefight is an air assault. we've seen dozens of tankers and choppers drop fire and water
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retardant. it won't stop the fire but will buy time for crews on the ground as they build containment lines and set back fires. more than 9,000 fire crews are battling fires up and down the state. conditions in california just about as bone dry as they can be here in this fourth year of drought. the governor has declared a state of emergency and is keeping the president apprised of what's happening and how much fighting these fires is costing. a price tag out here on the rocky fire, shepard, $14 million and counting. >> claudia, thank you. is the bigger enemy to america al qaeda or isis? does it matter? actually it matters quite a lot because federal agencies are reportedly divided over which groups deserve focus in the counterterror fight and billions of dollars are on the line. how to spend them. we'll bring you both sides of that debate. and -- our blaggo.
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the seat blago said was bleeping golden. there's more information about what exactly may happen with his jail time and we'll get to that right after you hear our best of blago clip reels. >> and i'm left with gridlock, a [ bleep ] speaker, potential impeachment and a [ bleep ] president who's all take and no give. >> i've got this thing and it's [ bleep ] golden. and i'm just not giving it up for [ bleep ] nothing. i busted my [ bleep ] and gave grand mother a free [ bleep ] on a bus. what do you get? only 13% of y'all out there think i'm doing a good job, so [ bleep ] you. >> i mean, something's really [ bleep ] up in my head, doug. i mean, i could be and i could end up still maybe delivering pizzas somewhere. maybe that's where my destiny is, right? >> no, not pizza, your destiny was prison.
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as you remember, he can fly. he did some flying for a hollywood production at one point, sort of a reality thing. in a moment, he will look up into the camera at us as he flies over our news deck. thank you, our blago. the ruling today is also that our blago's original 14-year sentence might still be fair. hear this. 14 years might stand even after they subtract the five overturned counts. so our blago's chances of flying free may be very slim. again, blago is asking for a full court to rehear his appeal after three judges overturned some of his corruption convictions, but chances are we now know that his 14-year sentence will not be reduced. fly, blago. u.s. officials are split in the debate over which is the bigger threat, isis or al qaeda. that's according to the reporting of "the new york times" newspaper, which cites senior u.s. officials. it's an important issue which could affect how federal agencies shape their plans to
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fight terror and maybe more importantly how they decide to spend millions of dollars in counterterror money. the white house is leaning towards isis as the bigger enemy. analysts say the group has tens of thousands of fighters and its social media campaign can inspire people to launch attacks from anywhere in the united states. but the experts say the islamic state has not made attacking the west a priority. they say the group is more focused on setting up a so-called caliphate but pentagon officials are more concerned about the threat of al qaeda. experts say it's tougher to pin down how many fighters that group has, since it's connected to multiple branches across the middle east and africa. but u.s. officials warn al qaeda militants are exploding war-torn countries like yemen and syria, exploiting those countries where they actively plan for large-scale attacks like bringing down airliners. so in summation, the top
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democrat says isis is more focused on quantity of attacks and al qaeda on quality. mike barrett is with us now, a former defense department intelligence official and he's currently the director of the center for security and resilience, which describes itself as a new nonpartisan think tank focusing on homeland security. nice to see you. >> good to see you, shep. >> where are we in this debate. >> there are lots of opinions but i think there's two things you want to keep in mind. one, this is the classic divide between homeland security and national security. national security is the over there game where you've got the cia and certain elements of the intelligence community and the military keeping an eye on things abroad. those tend to be the larger attacks as you were just describing. those are the big more impactful 9/11-style attacks. on the flip side you have lots of incidents like what you've seen with single shooters. so the way that you deal with the single shooters is by state and local law enforcement,
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almost a million of them here in the u.s. those are the people who respond to the individuals that are generally self-radicalized. >> so many with whom i speak say these individuals who self-radicalize, these lone wolves, you can't really find them unless and until they rear their ugly heads, but al qaeda -- on al qaeda, you can keep an eye. >> that's right. so right now there is an operational distinction that i think can be made and i think you're seeing as you pointed out a fight over the budget around this. because you can find the al qaeda types because to congregate, they have to come together and train, they have to build explosives, they have to come together and because they're forcibly moving around and talking to each other, that's where we can catch them using wire intercepts and some of our human assets. but these individual one-off single persons who self-radicalize, don't tell anyone, don't make a video, don't leave anything behind, just go out and seemingly randomly start shooting people, they're the problem locally.
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the real interesting thing people want to be paying attention to is what do we do in a couple of years as those individuals who are self-radicalizing now under the isis mantra learn how to connect with each other, so we might have groups of attacks here on the homeland. >> in other words, someone who might never have one-on-one contact with members of isis but might organize a small group of their own to, for instance, hit a couple of malls or a couple of recruiting centers. >> exactly. you hear about this phenomenon they call flash mobs where people would get online and all agree to show up at a certain location and often have a dance party or something at a mall. you can imagine doing that as a terrorist tactic to create massive disruption. those are the kind of concerns that we have with isis in the longer run, which means ultimately isis i think is the larger threat. even though al qaeda is still always focused on trying to carry out single attacks. >> so many fronts in this one. mike barrett from washington. thanks, pal, appreciate it.
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first of it's kind criminal case now. imagine that, first of it's kind. prosecutors in one state have charged a murder suspect with terrorism for killing a college student. we'll have much more on that and what it could mean for the case coming up on shepard smith reporting. i've just gotten new information from camp shelby in mississippi. it sounds like a couple of guys have been brought in for questioning. i'm getting all the details together and i'll have that for you in just a moment. you focus on making great burgers, or building the best houses in town. or becoming the next highly-unlikely dotcom superstar. and us, we'll be right there with you, helping with the questions you need answered to get your brand new business started. we're legalzoom and we've already partnered with over a million new business owners to do just that. check us out today to see how you can become one of them. legalzoom. legal help is here.
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suspects and nobody has been charged. camp shelby is a 200 square mile giant facility in south mississippi. it was the largest induction facility for world war ii back in the day, and later the young men who went to military by volunteering and were drafted started out in this spot. my father, for one, trained there at 15 years old. now shots fired during a training exercise. more updates as we get them. the news continues next.
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well, prosecutors say this is a first for all of us. they're charging a murder suspect in new jersey under the state's terrorism law. they say he killed a college student as part of a, quote, bloody crusade to punish the united states for its foreign policy in the middle east. that's what they said. today the suspect pleaded not guilty to murder and terrorism charges. investigators say he randomly chose a 19-year-old, this 19-year-old named brendan tevlin, chose him last summer,
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shooting him eight times as he sat in his car at a traffic light. they say the suspect told detectives the murder was a, quote, just kill because the victim was a man with no women, children or elderly people nearby. investigators say a few weeks earlier the gunman, this man, murdered three other young men in the seattle area. two of them, according to authorities, execution style. let's turn to rick leventhal who's live for us this afternoon in newark, new jersey, where i promise you it is not yet nighttime. there's just a lot of light going on there. what happened in court today, rick? >> reporter: it was a very brief appearance, shepard. ali mohammed brown was maybe in court two minutes and spoke two words when the judge greeted him directly. he said good morning. the self-described devout muslim had plenty to say to investigators last summer. brown telling detectives and prosecutors, quote, my mission is vengeance for the lives, millions of lives lost every day, iraq, syria, afghanistan.
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all these places where innocent lives are being taken every single day. this is why this happened in west orange, referring to the ten bullets he fired at 19-year-old brendan tevlin, hitting him eight times. tevlin was simply driving home for a friend's home. brown hoped to travel to syria or iraq and join the fight but instead he will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars. >> and he's still facing charges in washington state, right? >> reporter: yeah. once brown is tried here, he will be sent back to seattle to face three murder charges there. two men shot execution style as they sat in a car. leroy herndson shot as he walked down a sidewalk. all of them killed with the same 9-millimeter handgun used in the tevlin murder. after court brendan's parents were asked how they were holding up? >> it's going to be a long
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process. >> it's a parent's worst nightmare and it happened to us. >> your reaction to seeing the defendant in court today? >> reaction? he doesn't deserve a reaction. >> reporter: tevlin was a straight-a student who loved to surf, play lacrosse and hoped to become fluent in spanish by studying abroad. his parents say they want to honor his memory by focusing on the good, shep. >> rick leventhal, live for us. thank you. bob biachi is here with us. terrorism charges, how do you do that? >> yeah, shep, listen, this is a great job because this clearly was an act of domestic terrorism. i know the acting prosecutor in that location. when somebody is going out and as a result of our policies in afghanistan and iraq are targeting people and saying in their statements that it was a just kill, then they clearly are acting according to that statute as an act of terrorism.
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as a former prosecutor myself, we need to aggressively make sure that these sleeper cells and individuals are treated just as dangerously as somebody that does a catastrophic event. to kill this young man in the prime of his life sends a shock wave to the entire nation. he's a hero and we should give it the media attention and full prosecution. if it were me, i'd try to put him in jail for as long as i could under any charge that i could. >> practically speaking, when you charge him in terror instead of as a murderer, what is the change in what happens in the court proceedings and what could happen to him? >> that's a great question. he's charged with both of those offenses and he can be found guilty of both of those offenses. the murder charge, the prosecutor will have to show based on aggravating and mitigating factors why it should be a life sentence without parole. if he's convicted of terrorism, it's an automatic life without parole sentence. i think when somebody does something like that, we are going the full boat on you with every charge that we can and
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convict you for as much as we can to put you in jail for as long as we can. that's the message. >> terrorism defined, though, has much more to do with what it does to society and does to us mentally. so i guess they'll be making the argument that though he was -- though he sought after this one guy, there was much more being said to the community in general? >> yeah, and you know what, he gave us the evidence that the prosecutor is going to need. it's a slam dunk. he said he did this in retaliation for the policies of the united states. he took it out on this young man, an innocent person who had nothing to do with those policies, had nothing to do with any of the activities he complained about. so he is a victim, a citizen soldier, if you will, and that's why he was targeted. i was concerned about this when i ran the homeland security division as the prosecutor, that we make sure that individual random acts of terrorism, sleeper cells, people like this, they need to be prosecuted completely and fully to the full extent of the law. so he is no different than somebody targeting a building
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with a lot of people. this is going to be the new genre of terrorism where they go after the innocent, the people who are vulnerable, the people who aren't in places of critical infrastructure, like the statue of liberty or some of those places. they can just randomly go out there and commit a killing of a beautiful boy like this. and they can make every single person fear no matter where you are you're not safe. it needs to be measured in terms of law enforcement's response to the full extent of the law. hard core, all the way. >> we'll watch it. it's going to be an interesting case. bob bianchi good to see you. the family of sandra bland, remember her? the family filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the state trooper who arrested her and other officials involved in their case. you may remember sandra bland was the black woman who turned up dead in her jail cell last month three days after a very dramatic confrontation with a white state trooper. the attorney for her relatives says they want more answers and they called on the justice department to investigate.
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>> it happened yesterday at egg lund air force base in florida's panhandle near ft. walton beach of the an air force spokesmen said the two men were practicing freefall jumps from high altitude. more details as we get them. an update on the shooting in camp shelby coming up next and the first response from base officials. stay with us. so this beauty can be yours with a down payment and 10% financing. oh larry, lawrence.
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of south mississippi and new details have just come in. remember, there were reports of a shooting on base, camp shelby in south mississippi. perry county. the sheriff said that they were looking for this red vehicle. sounds like they probably found the red vehicle. the sheriff has gone to talk to two people who were in the red vehicle. as it turns out, we've just gotten our first information, official information from the military. lieutenant colonel christian patterson, who's the director of public affairs for the mississippi military department based in jackson gives us the following. this shooting actually happened on a road at a quarter to 12:00 today just off camp shelby on parrot tower road, which is very, very near the training post but apparently not technically on it. so, therefore, this shooting, as it were, happened off base, not on base. there was a training exercise going on. members of the military or some of those who were their guests from either at ft. hood in texas or from north mississippi in tupelo reported this to their chain of command. it went up the chain of command and the local authorities are
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investigating. they're investigating because it happened off post, just barely off, but off base there in south mississippi. nobody hurt. investigation continues. but everybody at camp shelby is safe. there is no reason for concern for anyone there. and that's the great news off south mississippi this afternoon. we have a winner in the 2015 national geographic traveler photo contest. and, man, what a set of photos we have to show you this afternoon. let's take a look at some of the finalists in our slide show here from the fox news deck. first of all, two guys enjoying a sauna in the skies some 9,000 feet up in the italian alps. the second one, two guys trying to catch a duck in a stream in thailand. would you look at the lighting in this thing, incredible. you should look at these online. here's a look at a so-called deadmarsh. the photographer says the trees
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are believed to be 900 years old. this looks like a drawing or a painting. it's a photograph. these trees haven't decomposed because it's so dry out there in the desert. and the photo of two men racing camels took third place in this contest. here's the second place photo. this photo, a closeup of three gravel workers covered in dust and sand looking out the window from their shop in bangladesh. and here's the winner, an incredible picture here. a shot of divers swimming near a humpback whale and her newborn calf. this is off the coast of mexico. the photographer won an eight-day trip to costa rica and the panama canal where they'll take pictures along with national geographic. look at the other divers here along in this picture. the humpback whale going back up and the photographer here in the foreground with an absolutely amazing photo. you can check out all the rest of the photos at
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come on i don't want to watch that. too bad this is happening. fine, what if i just put up the x1 sports app right here. ah jeez it's so close. he just loves her so much. do it. come on. do it. come on! yes! awww, yes! that is what i'm talking about. baby. call and upgrade to get x1 today. ♪ investigators say a man who shot two sheriff's deputies in southern california could also be linked to a shooting death and kidnapping last week. dozens of deputies searched for the suspect near bakersfield, about a two hour drive north of los angeles. more on that search area in just a moment. first investigators say the apparent crime spree started a week ago really when the suspect took three hostages in their cabin and threatened to kill them. they reportedly escaped about an hour later. then on thursday, just ten miles
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away, investigators say family members found a 64-year-old retired dentist shot to death in his cabin. and then saturday, they say s.w.a.t. teams entered a nearby mobile home when a man shot two deputies with a handgun. those investigators say one deputy took a bullet through each arm and the second deputy was hurt in the ear. both are expected to be okay. police say the rugged terrain and hot temperatures are making the search for the gunman extremely difficult. we have details over here in that. string a crimes. once you involve sheriff's deputies, what's happening now? >> yeah, so all this is happening 30 miles east of bakersfield. you can just see how rugged the area is over here. it's the southern edge of the sier sierra. and it's all kind novemb man's . it started in twin oaks. >> these are weekend cabins. >> yeah. there's a lot of caves and a lot of dirt roads, and a lot of
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unoccupied cabins that he could be hiding in. and plus, temperatures have been above 100 degrees, southern california is hot this time of year. they have a lock of factors against them right now. >> wish them all the best, thank you. trace gallagher, what do we know more about the suspect, trace? >> very little, shep, the suspect knows how to survive. he's willing to kill law enforcement to remain free, but the three victims held inside the cabin you talked about at gunpoint were able to help police put together this sketch. he's 30 to 35-year-old white male with brown hair and blue eyes. he is also said to be in camouflage gear, mostly olive green. the victims say they were held at gunpoint for about an hour and a half and that the suspect made several bizarre statements, and threatened over and over to kill them. the suspect stole several firearms from the cabin and the victims, most of the weapons have been located, but police believe the killer is still armed with at least a shotgun,
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maybe more. shep. >> what more do you have on the search, trace? >> well, the rugged terrain as you talked about, scorching temperatures are making a lot more difficult for law enforcement. they also believe the suspect knows the area very well, and that means, instead of doing an offensive search, police are now having to play a little bit of defense, listen. >> the last thing we want to do is rush into an area and have the suspect waiting for us and ambush a deputy or a team. so after the shooting that occurred on saturday night, we're making sure that we, we just do a slow, methodical search. >> a lot of southern california police involved in the search, including helicopters from orange county and s.w.a.t. teams from l.a. county. shep. >> trace gallagher nor l.a., trace, thank you. former fireman accused of killing a man appearing on drug charges in court might have done it for revenge. we reported on this yesterday. happened in canton, mississippi, about 30 minute drive north of
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jackson. the sheriff there says the gunman got out of a maroon puppet, walked up to the defendant and shot him with a handgun. this could have been payback after somebody shot the gunman's mother on saturday night. they say she survived and was testifying against the same defendant. investigators say they're still looking into it. we'll be right back with a nod to this day in history and a look back at one of the nation's and world's greatest cities. benny's the oldest dog in the shelter.
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he needed help all day so i adopted him. when my back pain flared up, we both felt it. i tried tylenol but it was 6 pills a day. with aleve it's just two pills, all day. now i'm back! aleve. all day strong. on this day in 1830, officials laid the plans for a place called chicago. it started as a small training post at the mouth of a chicago river in lake michigan. three days after it became a city, a lantern was left in the shed and you know the rest. a massive fire burned about a third of it to the ground. city planners rebuilt chicago with a now famous modern style of architecture featuring the world's skyscrapers, the first ones. we can thank chicago for the
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first ferris wheel and deep dish pizza, though that frankly is not a thank you. officials drew a map 185 years ago today. the news breaks out, we'll break in. here comes cavuto. well thank you, shepard how much, i am neil cavuto, you didn't hear from me, but there's a debate on thursday, it's going to be a big one. keep it amongst yourselves, fox is on it. in fact we have two big debates and the battle right now is for the tenth position. and who will be the top ten candidates to beat, and if you're not in the top ten, you're at a disadvantage. this might not be the case. but this is an audition, not only for the american voter, but maybe for the guys who pay the candidates, the donors who might see this as a beauty contest moment and take their chances on the candidate looking or appealing to them or stand the test of a furth
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