>> let's do it together. >> right down bourbon street. >> that will do it for us. "mediabuzz" with howard kurtz is coming up next. on the buzz meter from los angeles this sunday political anger rising as donald trump along with his supporters keeps ripping the media including fox news and his rivals while the pundits debate whether he's soaring or singing. >> rand paul, you have found, is a disaster in the polls. everybody that puts money up for jeb bush, it's like he's a puppet. he's totally controlled by these people. it's been brutal. it's been brutal for hillary and i think at some point she perhaps won't be able to run. she will have to end her campaign. >> anger is not a sufficient qualification for president. this was a turning point and the beginning of the decline for

donald trump. >> this is incredible what donald trump is doing. he has an army behind him. >> why does television news keep giving trump endless air time for phone interviews and why did the presidential debate cause such a firestorm. hillary clinton turns over her private e-mail server in the face of an fbi investigation. is the trump phenomenon overshadowing her problems as well. >> hillary clinton's issues certainly involves the emails but in the larger sense it involves what it regurgitates in the public about the clintons. >> i think she's done. i think these e-mail scandal, they will find things on here that may or may not be top secret. >> and the media suddenly fascinated by bernie sanders big crowds and more chart that joe biden may jump into trees. even al gore. that's not happening. isn't this getting a little far

fetched. miami howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." television producers usually hate long phone interviews because well there's nothing for viewers to look at but they are tossing out that rule for donald trump when in the past seven days has called into four sunday shows, "today" show, lou dobbs and a sit down with sean hannity and hillary clinton has gotten into the game. >> while what donald trump said about megyn kelly is outrageous what the rest of the republicans are saying about all women is also outrageous. >> hillary said your comments about women were offensive. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i think i'll do more for women -- i cherish for women. i'll do more for women than hillary can ever do. >> despite media predictions

that trump would be damaged by the aftermath of last week's fox debate he's still confounding the pundit, still riding high in the polls prompting some republican rivals to deflect trump and others are happy to whack him. >> senator, one of the lines that jumped out of your piece was quote, we don't need another bully, we don't need a bully. >> you look like a guy like rand paul. he is failing in the polls. he's weak on the military. he's pathetic on military. i mean, here's a guy called me a year ago, oh, let's play golf. >> truch said he beat him at golf. joining me here is our fox contributor. in new york, julie, a democratic analyst. >> trump giving interviews yesterday with nbc's chuck todd

who asked about his plans to go in and seize isis's oil, how many ground troops that would involve. trump deflected that question and then we had this exchange. >> who do you talk to about military advice right now? >> i watch your shows. i see a lot of great -- when you watch your show and the other shows and you have the generals -- >> is that sort of an answer or when trump deflects policy questions does the media really care about his policy positions? >> well, i think they should right now. it's a little bit of a circus atmosphere in that they are rushing to talk about trump and the brand of trump and the push back that he keeps giving. it's clearly good television because he attacks individuals and so what i think trump has to do is begin to talk about policy in specific tones. the fact that he's watching "meet the press" for some sort

of national security advice or military information is really embarrassing. i think this is where trump is going to begin to unravel. he has some -- >> i heard pundits saying that now for weeks and weeks and weeks and he's not unraveling. >> look, i think he still has time. we're still in the honeymoon phase. we're just getting to iowa. the iowa state fair is a circus. >> circuses are in dispute. this was a policy ladened interview, julie, on "meet the press." trump again said he would basically deport all 11 million or however many there are in this country and bring them back. he doesn't want to break up families. he doesn't talk about how much this would cost. chuck todd tried. is the media surrendering to the politics of personality. >> they are surrendering to the politics of ratings. he can call in because he brings in the ratings. that's the bottom line whether

it's tv or newspapers. so, the media is surrendering to the fact you have a celebrity running who attracts eyeballs to their brand and therefore a symbiotic relationship which is good for both. >> trump always generates controversy and traffic and he knows it. >> knees it. that's why reporters, i mean they like to cover trump because he gives them copy. he's interesting. the helicopter ride yesterday, he goes after politicians in a way that politicians don't go after one another. so it's just -- he's bringing in an audience that is just not there before. as an example my 15-year-old watched the debate. he has never watched any other debate but he watched because of donald trump. >> your 15-year-old had plenty of company as 24 million people watched that debate in cleveland. trump taking his shots at the media and look the fact that he and fox news have been at it since that debate in cleveland

has gotten an notorious amount of attention. truch brought this up yesterday in iowa. let's take a look. >> this last thing with fox, i mean i love roger but all you have to do is ask roger who won? >> there's been a lot of rumor stories floating around taking that trump line that fox news gave in to donald trump. what i've been able to piece together it was a classic truce. neither side apologized. nobody won. he got an hour on hannity show. 11 other republican presidential candidates have gotten a full hour with sean hannity this year. there was a difficult conversation by sources say on monday when fox news chairman told trump in a phone conversation, he was not happy about the fact that trump had gone on msnbc and said that megyn kelly should apologize to him for asking tough questions at that debate. and roger said if you want to go to war we can go to war.

neither side wanted that war. everybody seemed to be moving on until friday. then friday when megyn kelly left on a pre-planned family vacation that trump said in an interview he possibly caused that vacation. that prompt ad pretty tough statement from fox news defending megyn kelly again calling this a ufo conspiracy theory. saying trump and his operatives were being irresponsible and bizarre. bob, does trump hurt himself by continuing, it's now nine, ten days after the debate to talk about megyn kelly? >> i think that he should move on. like any good boss, roger defends his employees and you thought you had this truce and then trump couldn't help himself. but reflame the whole debate. i think it's a distraction where he's not talking about things he wants to talk about like china, the wall in mexico. i think it would be best if he did not do that. dewell in the debate but then his fight with megyn kelly was a

bit of a distraction. >> some other fox folks speaking out, democratic strategist, joe trippi tweeted this. maybe trump wants to be president of a cable network? everyone vacations in august that's why i'm out here in l.a. your take, rick? >> this is where trump begins to lose it. he's got some great points about washington being the problem and politicians being people that we can't relate to. but, when you immediately start acting like you're on "the apprentice," while running for president of the united states this is a problem. you look at how he would be viewed around the world with this type of attitude. you have to get people to follow you. this whole kind of i won, you lost mentality is terrible and it's so juvenile that i think this is where people look at trump and they say, the entertainment is now going to stop because we have to get serious about lecting a president. >> there's a new fox news poll

out that shows trump with a pretty healthy lead, 25 points nationally among lectable republican voters, next candidate is ben carson with 12%. he's down among women by 3%. the debate, most people thought donald trump won the debate but also about a third or 30% thought that trump lost the debate. my question is, moving aside from individual surveys, aren't the media now finally waking up to the fact that they underestimated trump. wasn't this a pretty big failure on the part of the press? >> the media, the beltway media and new york media takes itself very seriously. this has shown us the presidential campaign has devolved into a reality show. donald trump is nothing more than a reality star which has taken his act to lecting the leader of the free world which is pathetic and the media didn't want to acknowledge that. this is what the summer of 2015

is. i don't think that's what the summer of 2016 will be about. or the fall of 2016 will be about. >> wait a second. you say it's pathetic. your side is loving this. liberal commentators love it we're in the summer of trump. they are trying to cast donald trump as the face of the republican party saying he may be blunt and brass. but that he really represents what republicans stand for. >> there's no question whatsoever the democrats are loving this. no questions the clinton campaign is loving this because it takes attention away from other issues. i will say from a press perspective the press again continues to believe that this is a serious enterprise and they don't understand what's become of the american public which is that they have now started treating this campaign like a reality program and in fact that's sad and a sad statement as to what politics has devolved into in our country in 2015. >> why would it be sad, bob, if in fact he's the republican front-runner, he's making all kind of news.

a lot of it is conflict and conflict sells. as journalists you can be candid here don't want this to end any time soon. >> i think there's no doubt about it. we'll never forget this summer whatever happens from this point on. reporters are pressing donald trump on policy and you have to respect the fact that he's the front-runner. that's why he's getting so much coverage not because he's so entertaining but because he has that solid 20%. whether he can grow that to 30% or 40% i'm not sure. if you compare to it hillary clinton, hillary clinton is not doing a lot of national interviews. donald trump is doing interviews on a daily basis, multiple times. >> hillary clinton has done one national interview on cnn. the more the media criticizes trump, dismisses him, challenge him on policy, the better he seems to do because then we become a foil he hits back at journalists. let me get a break. send me a tweet @howardkurtz. ahead on "mediabuzz" from los angeles is the press now talking

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hillary clinton's e-mail mess hit the headlines with hillary clinton's e-mail mess hit the headlines this week with the discover of top secret material in a couple of her private exchanges pushing the story back on to the newscast. >> the race for 2016 and firestorm growing for hillary clinton tonight. mrs. clinton reversing course, turning over that home server after insisting she would not. >> hillary clinton's campaign is in damage control mode this evening as the fbi takes possession of her private e-mail

server. >> julie, the media giving hillary clinton a very tough time on this e-mail story but given the fact that she portrayed this as voluntarily turning over her server when the fbi had already asked for it, and insisted there was originally said there was no classified material in any of her e-mail isn't this coverage deserved? >> it is deserved and entirely self-inflicted by hillary clinton. first it continues to be puzzle to me of the way she acted. i'm puzzled why she had the treatment of media. she has nobody to blame but herself. when you shun the media, when you refuse to do interviews, when you treat the media as though they are there to coronate you and not interview and then put your public emails on a private server you have nobody else to blame but yourself when the firestorm erupts. >> in iowa hillary clinton makes

a joke how she likes to use snap chat because the messages disappear. are the media drawing too much of a straight line, however, between this obvious debacle over the private e-mail and the poll, proximate she's having in the polls with her presidential campaign? >> i don't think so. you have to look at the media in two dirnlts ways. the serious national security media who are looking at the details of the server and what she did with classified information having only one e-mail account and saying she didn't send or receive any classified information that just -- that's not accurate. you can't do your job as secretary of state if you're not dealing in classified information. but political reporters are playing into the fact that hillary clinton is trying to throw this whole thing into politics. the comment about snap chat yesterday and laughing and yucking it up is a way to give red meat to the liberals to say here they go again. they are just coming after me. this is all politics. she will try to deflect this.

serious journalists have to look at the details. when the fbi gets involved we have a problem. >> her campaign put out a lengthy statement calling this nonsense at the very least we have a federal investigation of the handling of the private earn mail. bob cusack, hillary clinton that fox news poll that's just out today she has a 19 point national lead over bernie sanders in the polls down 10% from where she was in a previous poll. so my question is, is as serious a story as this is, it's being a little overshadowed by trump is the press over reacting by important training hillary's campaign in free fall. >> political reporters love a race. there's more of a race on the republican side than on the democratic side. but these negative headlines have certainly hurt her numbers and not going to stop any time soon. so that's why i think you've gotten a lot of coverage of bernie sanders. remember bernie sanders doing very well in the polls, leading

her in new hampshire. hillary clinton didn't do well in iowa in 2008. political insiders say no way bernie sanders will be the nominee. >> "the washington post" story describing hillary's campaign as rigid, tone deaf, some of the problems she had last time. and i think the press interest in bernie sand serious drawing these huge crowds. we'll talk about that later and certainly related to hillary's problems, the sinking poll numbers and all of that. bob cusack in washington, julie in new york and rick here in los angeles. thanks very much for joining us this sunday. up next, what if virtually every pundit is wrong and donald trump will win the republican nomination? jeff greenfield makes the case. and what happens when women are

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virtually virtually all the political progress n prognisticators are together on one point, of course trump won't win. but what if he does. jeff greenfield a contributor to politico and "daily beast." jeff, maybe you revised your opinion but don't ruin the premise of this segment. what if trump wins, why did you feel a need to write such a thing? >> i have to say that the piece was not so much what if he wins, but when and under what circumstances do voters do highly unusual unexpected things? and that's the point. when you look in the past, you can see certain parallels. when minnesota elected an ex-pro wrestler, jesse ventura as

governor. when california put in arnold arnold schwarzenegger. why did they do that? they did it for a couple of reasons. there was a strong amount of discontent with things as usual. and they saw something unusual. they saw a power they didn't know they had. when ventura got enough money to put on ads, when he qualified for the debates they realized hey we can do this. when the recall of governor gray davis actually made the ballot thanks to a multimillionaire congressman who wanted to be governor voters said wait we don't like this governor, we're ticked off at the electricity rates and auto license, we can do something about this. >> bring this to the present. you have all of these very smart political reporters and analysts and commentators and they are united in the belief that donald trump is not going to be the republican nominee. they know this history that you laid out as well as anybody.

is the problem that they don't talk to voters enough or tuned into fact that the usual rules might be shattered in this cycle? >> that's the key. for what it's worth, i don't think he's going the republican nominee. but i think there's a plausible possibility which i certainly didn't think when he first got into this. and that is because within the republican party there is a strain, you can't call it conservative because in a lot of ways donald trump isn't. a strain of outright anger, the conviction that the whole political process is corrupt so that all of the thing that many of us myself included would kill trump turns out to be a feature. he speaks off the top of his head. better than prepared speeches by people who are paid to do it. does he fight back? does he hit back at people or instigate fights? a lot of people think i wish i had that power to say that to my

boss or family member. he says what i want to say. that's what i think a lot of us miss is that it had much more political potency. i still don't think it will lead to himming the nominee but something we have to keep in mind. >> what do you make of the whole dust up between donald trump and fox news which kind of got a new life when trump claimed credit for megyn kelly going on vacation despite the fact this was a pre-planned family vacation and fox put out a very tough statement calling trump's statements irresponsible. >> it's fascinating. i should say at the outset same three fox anchors that angered some of your viewers did the same thing four years ago as they should. my feeling is for some fox viewers, its success comes in part we're the people that will tell you what the rest of the world won't. we'll give the world that's not distoward. we're the fair and balance one. for some fox viewers see fox

frankly as like home team announcers. they don't expect fox people to be tough on republicans. you're supposed to be tough on hillary clinton and barack obama. and the split between conservatives, many of whom read the commentary magazine, weekly standard, national review, they are the worse, vigorous critics of trump and then you have other people who are watching fox saying what are you doing to my team. >> i have to wrap it up. having sat through the debate prep in cleveland, they are no home town announcers. they are tough on everybody. thanks for joining us this sunday. >> okay. >> ahead from los angeles, one poll shows bernie sanders ahead of hillary in new hampshire. is the press feeling the bern. rich lowry says trump is the biggest whiner in politics and trump pleads guilty.

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>> some of the harshest . some of the harshest criticism of donald trump has come from conservative commentators, national review editor pronounced donald the most fabulous whiner in all of american politics writing donald trump acts like a spoiled child. >> one of the columnists, rich lowry says that you are the most fabulous whiner in the world. >> i think he's right. i'm the most fabulous whiner. i do whine. i want to win. i'm not happy. >> are whiners winners. >> i'm a whiner. i keep whining and whining until i win. joining us now from the stanford, connecticut is rich lowry and with us here in l.a. lesley marshal. rich, no whining in this

segment. you would think donald trump would hate the column that you wrote in politico but that wasn't his reaction. >> let that be the lesson to all of us how we need to whine more i guess. you never know what he'll say. my point was, his complaints about the debate are really silly. it's an iron rule of these debates if you're the candidate who is the highest in the polls you're going to get more scrutiny and you're going to get tough do we really believe if jeb bush had ever called a woman a pig that wouldn't come up in a debate? trump and his fans argue well the question should have been more substantive. he got several policy questions and whiffed on every single one of them. he's whining. maybe he's whining to win but he's certainly whining. >> sometimes what gets lost in the chatter about megyn kelly's question she was quoting some of trump's own words. leslie it's hard for the media to embarrass this guy. look how he handled that whining

column. >> very true. unfortunately whining is not going to be policy and get him to win. rich, i think this is the first time we agreed on something and that's the whining. >> ding, ding. >> donald trump is so much and we're here in l.a. donald trump is so much that celebrity. swooping in on the big helicopter. this is what people are lining up for. this is what the media is showing up with the cameras rolling for. and he's eating it up. as long as you spell his name right it seems to benefit him. unfortunately. i think it's a sad statement on our political landscape right now. >> rich, you say in another column you're clearly not a trump fan, that trump is incoherent, your word, on such issues as immigration and defunding planned parenthood. if you haven't noticed republican voters who like him aren't particularly hung up on the specifics of his policy approach.

>> no. no one has benefitted so much from media coverage and media attention as donald trump. it's really the starkest demonstration of the principle that's there's no such thing as bad publicity that we've ever seen. he benefits from the negative coverage. he benefits from people saying he's going toast as they have repeatedly and been wrong because republicans are just so sick of our pc culture and our press when there are these shaming campaigns against anyone who says something controversial and usually the target slinks away, cries, apologizes, and trump won't do that. every time there's a negative story, every time there's a controversy, it benefits him at least among his fans. >> lesley, your side of the media tries to say trump embodies some of the ugliness of the republican party. that doesn't wash in my view because he's so different than every other candidate, jeb bush, ben carson, mike huckabee, known

of them are like trump for good and bad. >> the media has made donald trump number one. certainly. one of the reasons the media shows up is because, you know, they want their ratings, they want to sell their newspapers, they want people to read mayor blogs and columns. >> i don't think that gives trump enough credit. i hear media are giving them this air time and ink and online coverage therefore we're responsible for trump leading in the polls aside from the fact that viewers gate say. trump has media skills that compel a lot of journalists to cover him and some of the other candidates had that they would get more coverage. >> a lot has to do with name recognition. that's key for anybody. when people vote it's a reason that somebody says i'm going to vote for this person. then we have celebrities, you saw that here in california withal arnold arnold schwarzenegger who had certificate experience and became governor of this state. but for -- when you talk about what donald trump is saying i

don't think it's all of what he's saying, it's how he's saying it. you had said this very different than the other people running. he's a real shoot from the hip, non-pc, anti-establishment, outside of the beltway guy and that's work forge him right now. >> rich, you talked about whining and other candidates, you know, cry or issue statements trump doesn't do that. the way in which he picked a fight with fox news after that presidential debate in cleveland and as i mentioned has taken various shots now since then, although largely cooled off because of a truce do you think that helps trump among people who don't like media, don't like fox or like to see trump take a club and whack people? >> i think it's mostly the latter. as long as he's on offense, as long as he's throwing punches, as long as he's attacking his fans like that. i don't know whether this is a conscious strategy on his part but he's a genius at changing the subject.

after those john mccain comments what happened? he gets up on stage, he gives out lindsey graham's phone number and mccain comments disappeared and we're talking about trump giving out phone number. same thing with the debate. i thought his debate performance objectively and the internals of the polls back this up was quite poor. but the conversation after the debate wasn't about his debate performance it was about whether the questions were fair and about his feud with megyn kelly. so he's kind of inadvertently or not a genius at this. >> that was no accident. let me show you, lesley, a cover in "the week" magazine, megyn kelly practically choking donald trump. bret bai bret baier gnawing on his leg down below. do you think there's anything sexist in this? >> i do. quite frankly she was doing her job. and i think it was -- it was

appropriate that the only female on the panel would ask this question. this is one of many tough questions you're going to get when you run for president regardless of your party and regardless of how much money you have in your bank account like he likes to remind us constantly. this cover bothers me but i'm not surprised because we see that in not just american politics and american media but sexism is alive and well unfortunately in 2015. >> stake round guys we'll have another no whining segment coming up. tabloid headline who socialist sanders surges. is the press now big on bernie? megan mccain on the trump fallout own how women often are targeted for online abuse. at ab my li'l buddy? and what if this happened again? i was given warfarin in the hospital but i wondered if this was the right treatment for me. then my doctor told me about eliquis.

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sanders and hurt hillary but at the end of the day hillary has a campaign that not just has money but a lot of time behind it. and the question really i think they are looking at is can in two, three, four months at the most the vice president accomplish and take a bite out of her with all of the years she's been planning for this run. >> rich, i didn't get the memo you're in new york i thought you were still in connecticut. is the biden chatter driven by liberal elements in the press that now fear hillary clinton could be a weak nominee? >> certainly he's getting a lot of favorable coverage. there's two factors there. one, obviously tracksic context of his son's death, and then the most ingrained and deepest bias in the media outside of ideology is running a horse race. of course reporters want biden in the race. he's also an incredibly unguarded guy in contrast with hillary clinton. so it would be like christmas every day for reporters if biden

ran. so all of them are rooting for it. >> rooting for joe. politico had a headline, biden said to be considering one term presidency. this was picked up every where. the person saying it is cnn contributor carl bernstein. mostly his opinion. some say yes, some say no. not exactly a hard fact. buzz feed had a piece saying al gore weighing a run or at least people around him talking about the possibility that he might jump into the race although politico didn't get down and gore campaign has denied it. your thoughts alsoly on the media turning to the former vp? >> to rich's point about the horse race and wanting somebody to scream malarky because they are not getting good sound bites this is malarky. al gore will not run. this was almost an opinion that became complete speculation, that became rumor that everybody ran with including abc news

after buzz feed put it out. >> i know you would love to see al gore run, but it does look like this was a media driven fantasy. >> probably. on this horse race thing, there is a horse race on the democratic side and it is driven by bernie sanders. he was widely discounted initially including people by me. he went around the media. has generated real enthusiasm among the grassroots and i still don't think the press is taking him seriously enough. he's a real threat to hillary in iowa, new hampshire and beyond. >> i think there needs to be more media scrutiny of his policy issues. rich, lesley, thanks very much for stopping by. after the break, megan mccain on donald trump and how far is too far when women are the target. growing up, we were german.

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at which time twitter and facebook can turn into rough neighborhood, as we saw after the fox debate and that's especially true for women. joining us now, megan mccain. donald trump's post debate comments, the personal ones about megyn kelly. what's your take? >> i don't think it's a hard thing to say maybe we shouldn't be discussing women's menstrual cycles. people called in saying i was being too sensitive. >> trump says you're being too politically correct -- >> i understand what you said about the personal nature but isn't he as a candidate entitled

to criticize a journalist who has questioned him. >> i thought megyn kelly's questions were in every line of reason. i think he is not ready for prime time in the sense this is the kitchen and it's going to get hot. you're running for president of united states of america. it's going to get dirtier and you'll have to answer a lot tougher questions than a few tweets and he seems like the most sensitive politician for calling him a politician, i've ever encountered in my entire life. i don't get it. >> some of the stuff posted about megyn and others online was so vile. >> so vile. >> don't even want to reference i know occasionally you've gone into controversies and get whacked online. i'm wondering if you think it is everybody in public life has to deal with the rough neighborhoods particularly twitter can become. i wonder if you think it is worse for women. >> i definitely think it's worse for women. as you get into this job working in the media, it's something you have to accept. i speak to a lot of college

students and it's an unfortunate thing i have to bring up to them, if you want to be a pundit and talk about politics on television, your hair and makeup and weight, things would never be talked about if you're a man are going to be discussed. people on twitter are brutal. >> people are saulz talking about my my clothes. >> do you think that drives some women away? >> i think it silences women. i think it definitely silences women and silences young women. if you see megyn kelly doing her job in every sense of the world, asking one tough question and all of the things said afterward, you're a woman watching that, you don't want to do this. sometimes it's very, very difficult. >> i showed this cover earlier. let's take a look at it. it shows megyn kelly practically choking or tackling donald trump. do you have a problem with this cover? >> yes, this is ridiculous. i don't know what "the week" is -- >> it's a well read magazine and i guess you want to have a

provocative cover. >> maybe i'm just not reading "the week." would a male journalist have that caricature. you think about michele bachman, there's a long history of con seb tif women in the media and i think it's a tasteless cover. >> bernie sanders weighed in on the question of sexism recently having to do with another female candidate. take a listen. >> do those people though who are making a link between her e-mails and trust worthiness, are they mistaken? are they giving into gossip? >> let me be frank, some of it is sexist. i don't know a man would be treated the same way hillary is. >> are attacks on hillary clinton also sexist? >> there's some attacks that have been sexist towards hillary clinton. any woman in political office will have sexist attacks on her.

the e-mail leak, i don't see that at all. >> e-mail leak, clinton foundation, all of these things are legitimate and any candidate would be wildly criticized. >> this is a problem, when people cry sexism, people don't take anything have to deal with sexism or mass sajny. i never know what bernie sanders is doing. >> still to come, your top tweets and if stephen colbert's first guess is any indication, he could be back in the punditry game. hi my name is tom. i'm raph. my name is anne. i'm one of the real live attorneys you can talk to through legalzoom. don't let unanswered legal questions hold you up,

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california, and governor jerry brown barring this blue state from describing illegal immigrants as aliens. the most striking is the 50th anniversary of the watts riots in the city and how bad the paper's coverage was back in 1965. pronouncements of white officials were treat without skepticism. and how the times set a black advertising salesman because it had no reporters. still a problem in ferguson and baltimore but at least the media have made some progress on the diversity. are the media being fair or unfair to hillary on the e-mail story? >> under criminal investigation by the fbi, it would be unfair as media don't explain how clinton got e-mails not classified at the time, passes along unsourced partisan attacks.

>> media, you included hype everything in a 24/7 news cycle, called making news not reporting it. >> stephen colbert feeling anxious, not because he's taking over david letterman's show next month but wants to be on air making trump jokes now, reducing him to what he called dry trumping. colbert played a cable blow hard on comedy central would do less politics, but his first guest would be jeb bush and another dream guest in mind. >> it's not an invitation, mr. trump, this is a dare. i dare you to come on the show. >> and hey, trump might do it. he does everything else. here's helping the real colbert is real balanced than his clownish character that ridiculed conservatives. thanks for joining us. we hope you like our facebook page. we post a lot of original content there and respond to videos. we're back here i always give

the eastern time, next sunday morning, 11:00 and 5:00 eastern and 8:00 a.m. pacific and 2 in the afternoon on the west coast. see you then with the latest buzz. i'm chris wallace, the first fox news national poll since the big debate. who's surging and who's falling behind? we'll tell you. >> people are listening. they're not going to hear a political speaker from me. >> we'll sit down with one candidate whose gotten a big post debate bounce in iowa, dr. ben carson. plus clinton's e-mail server, how will her campaign handle the latest setback? >> the hero doesn't usually ask you to do things, they demand that it happens. >> we'll talk with trey gowdy, chair of the house benghazi committee about the investigation. plus our sunday panel weighs in on the new poll numbers and